If we do score one or two marquee teams, Maryland and Rutgers will be why.
We're setting ourselves up like the SEC, a few marquee teams at the top, with bad teams underneath. That's a pretty attractive thing to elite schools, considering they have the ability to run the table on an annual basis.
Exactly. With Clemson, FSU, VT and GT (maybe even Miami) having targets on their backs from the SEC, Big XII, B1G the ACC is not exactly sitting pretty IMHO.
$60 million, $10 million for the Big East, $50 million for the ACC. Basically, that's two years payment from the BTN as it was before we added Rutgers and Maryland. Add ND and Texas and that number gets stupid big.
I can understand Delany likes the markets nearby Maryland and Rutgers, and I also agree he likely has much bigger targets to complete the conference. Still, in the end, I expect Maryland and Rutgers to be at least mid-tier football teams in the conference. I'm not expecting them to be bottom dwellers.
As things stand at this moment, I'm fairly confident in saying that Rutgers could beat at least eight, perhaps nine of the twelve teams in the conference. Of course, who knows where things will stand in two years.
I really don't get the thought that these were such bad football moves. Rutgers could beat 3/4s of the Big Ten this year and has been a solid team since Schiano's arrival and has remained so after his departure.
Oh, I agree. But they're definitely one of the "Have Nots" of the B1G. They'll be a solid, middle-of-the-road team, with the occasional stint of top-tier competancy (until whatever coach they have leaves for greener pastures); a la Iowa.
I told my wife last night that Maryland was in the B1G and that Rutgers was soon to follow. Her exact quote back was, "That is just fucking stupid!" I understand the added revenue and all, but this is just seems lame. Now, if it results in ND and Texas great, but I really don't see it.
Does anyone know if the divsion alignments that leaked are accurate? I really hope they arent right. When I look at all the traditional Big Ten teams over on the other side (except Nebraska, but they fit in great) and then look at our side and see Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State (broken), and Wisconsin (on the downslide). It makes me feel like the 20 year old that has to sit at the kids table on Thanksgiving.
Why is the coverage starting 15 minutes before the press conference? Oh right, cuz everyone loves staring at footage of an empty podium while analysts talk about what might be talked about in 15 minutes.#mediafail
One thing is for sure in this mess: we don't know the endgame yet. But you can be sure Delany has one. And in the meantime, I'm sure he doesn't mind destroying the conference that ND just joined for all of their other sports...should've joined when you had the chance, don't want to be on Jimmy D's bad side.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Forget about Texas. Seriously. Texas's stubbornness and dickishness does not work in today's college football environment, and that makes them a bad candidate for the Big Ten. They have no interest in really being in a conference the way it's defined in the modern era. It's about revenue, markets, and spreading your brand around. Texas has never felt like it should ever be required to share its brand, its revenue, or its status with anyone else. Some of you out there might respect Texas for those values, but it honestly doesn't work.
They are poisonous, and would not be good for the Big Ten. Oklahoma might be a different story. They might play nice.
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If we do score one or two marquee teams, Maryland and Rutgers will be why.
We're setting ourselves up like the SEC, a few marquee teams at the top, with bad teams underneath. That's a pretty attractive thing to elite schools, considering they have the ability to run the table on an annual basis.
oh, i agree with the plan. As of this current moment, i am completely underwhelmed and just want to know the endgame.
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Texas or ND and Georgia Tech.
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I just don't see how we get ND. Didn't they just move to the ACC?
For all sports, except football, so not really, no. They were in the Big LEast before, didn't stop the talk then. ACC sure isn't going to stop it now.
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Exactly. With Clemson, FSU, VT and GT (maybe even Miami) having targets on their backs from the SEC, Big XII, B1G the ACC is not exactly sitting pretty IMHO.
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They're partially in for football. What would be the buyout $ for the Big East AND ACC both within 2-4 years?
$60 million, $10 million for the Big East, $50 million for the ACC. Basically, that's two years payment from the BTN as it was before we added Rutgers and Maryland. Add ND and Texas and that number gets stupid big.
I can understand Delany likes the markets nearby Maryland and Rutgers, and I also agree he likely has much bigger targets to complete the conference. Still, in the end, I expect Maryland and Rutgers to be at least mid-tier football teams in the conference. I'm not expecting them to be bottom dwellers.
Maybe it's just me...
As things stand at this moment, I'm fairly confident in saying that Rutgers could beat at least eight, perhaps nine of the twelve teams in the conference. Of course, who knows where things will stand in two years.
I really don't get the thought that these were such bad football moves. Rutgers could beat 3/4s of the Big Ten this year and has been a solid team since Schiano's arrival and has remained so after his departure.
Oh, I agree. But they're definitely one of the "Have Nots" of the B1G. They'll be a solid, middle-of-the-road team, with the occasional stint of top-tier competancy (until whatever coach they have leaves for greener pastures); a la Iowa.
Agreed. They will have trouble keeping up with Ohio State, but perhaps being in a better conference will help their recruiting efforts.
I told my wife last night that Maryland was in the B1G and that Rutgers was soon to follow. Her exact quote back was, "That is just fucking stupid!" I understand the added revenue and all, but this is just seems lame. Now, if it results in ND and Texas great, but I really don't see it.
I like your wife, she seems like a keeper!
Yeah, she's great! The best thing that ever happened to me.
If I had that conversation with my wife, she would have said "Huh?" with a confused look on her face.
Mine would follow that up with, "I hope they score a home run" as we watch the football game.
Okay, maybe she isn't really that bad...
Does anyone know if the divsion alignments that leaked are accurate? I really hope they arent right. When I look at all the traditional Big Ten teams over on the other side (except Nebraska, but they fit in great) and then look at our side and see Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State (broken), and Wisconsin (on the downslide). It makes me feel like the 20 year old that has to sit at the kids table on Thanksgiving.
You mean 6 essentially guaranteed wins for the next 5-6 years? (Granted, 2 teams took us to overtime this year lol)
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Why is the coverage starting 15 minutes before the press conference? Oh right, cuz everyone loves staring at footage of an empty podium while analysts talk about what might be talked about in 15 minutes.#mediafail
One thing is for sure in this mess: we don't know the endgame yet. But you can be sure Delany has one. And in the meantime, I'm sure he doesn't mind destroying the conference that ND just joined for all of their other sports...should've joined when you had the chance, don't want to be on Jimmy D's bad side.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Forget about Texas. Seriously. Texas's stubbornness and dickishness does not work in today's college football environment, and that makes them a bad candidate for the Big Ten. They have no interest in really being in a conference the way it's defined in the modern era. It's about revenue, markets, and spreading your brand around. Texas has never felt like it should ever be required to share its brand, its revenue, or its status with anyone else. Some of you out there might respect Texas for those values, but it honestly doesn't work.
They are poisonous, and would not be good for the Big Ten. Oklahoma might be a different story. They might play nice.
Texas is the ND of the south.
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