PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I've heard rumors of this being the reason that certain trustees caved so quickly. This is getting more sickening every day
This makes my stomach turn. Ugh. Disgusting.
The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009
As sick as this all is, I had already heard a rumor that this might have been going on. It was brought up as part of the speculation behind Ray Gricar's disappearance. That he had gotten too close to some rich contributors to Second Mile and that he pissed off/scared someone. Many people, many opinions. If you haven't heard the story of his disappearance, it's worth a read. It just deepens the creepiness of the whole PSU clusterf_ _ _.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
I liked it better when I hated State Penn because of '05 and '08. Because Tamba Hali made Troy do a headstand. Because Evan Royster really wasn't that good. Because Anthony Morelli didn't have more eligibilty. Because of White Outs. Because Darryl Clark sowed his own jersey on the sidelines.
Now, I can't even hate anymore. Its just scorn that this situation could be allowed to go on as long as it did....
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
this is truly sad!
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
No, "sad" is what you feel when a plane crashes and people are killed. "Sad" is what you feel when a tornado randomly wipes out a small town in Oklahoma. Or a hurricane kills hundreds in New Orleans.
Disgusting. Sickening. Anger.<---------That is what I feel when I hear about this horrible story and it just gets worse by the day. I have no problem with the death penalty for serial rapists. Some criminals are just too dangerous to society. We HAVE to protect our kids.
I don't have words. I was already utterly disturbed and now this?
"WE ARE...Freakin' Disgusting"
I will actually refrain from judgment just yet given the gravity of what this report alleges on account of the site appearance being less than reputable. It appears very TMZ like. With that said, where there is smoke there is fire and if any of this stuff happened after 2003 (since we are talking technology I have to assume it did) then there is a lot more innocent blood on Penn State's liver spotted hands.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Thought the exact same thing about the site.
Oh, how I was hoping this was a fake story for attention. I've never heard of the site, and I've never heard of the USPS investigating anything (except maybe mail fraud), but CBS is carrying it too . . .
Oh man, I REALLY hope this is BS.
Holy shit...I wonder if anybody involved in the coverup as we know it knew about this, too...
Class of 2010.
As sick as this all is, I had already heard a rumor that this might have been going on. It was brought up as part of the speculation behind Ray Gricar's (a prosecutor investigating Sandusky)disappearance. That he had gotten too close to some rich contributors to Second Mile and that he pissed off/scared someone. Many people, many opinions. If you haven't heard the story of his disappearance, it's worth a read. It just deepens the creepiness of the whole PSU clusterf_ _ _.
Bulldoze the school, salt the fields, administer corporal punishment when necessary. I've seen enough
hate to say it, but I think this pedophile ring is true, sadly. I'm near Pittsburgh & a local radio personality (Mark Madden) wrote about this in April of 2011!, here is a link to the article, and then a later radio interview with Madden about it. There are also rumors about rich donors with the Second Mile, which "pimped" out handpicked kids to the donors. Disgusting! There are also other rumors about former PA Governor Ed Rendell's aides being involved with donors and cover-ups. And, then there's the whole Ray Gricar situation. At this point, I'm 99.9% sure that Gricar disappeared at the hands of this PSU cover-up.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Ya know, he brought up a great point in that article, no one wanted anything to do with Sandusky after he "retired". Apparently, someone put the word out about him back in 98/99.
yep, exactly -- the timing was very strange...at the top of this profession, was yet to be a head coach, in good health, at a good coaching age still...yet he just "retired". I really think Tom Bradley & a lot of other people knew. McQueary stated before that he told a lot of people around him. This whole thing just gets deeper & deeper. Nothing would surprise me anymore with this whole cover-up/scandal.
I wouldn't be surprised if this went on for decades or involved multiple perpetrators.
Penn State, owner of two national titles that will be forever associated with a child rapist.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
The CBS story does not seem to support everything that is being reported by radaronline. Yes, the postal service may be investigating, but that is mostly because the victims said JS sent them love letters.
Here is the CBS link:
There may be smoke here, but it could just be the smoldering ashes of what JS did. Like Brewster said above, considering the source in not a main stream news source one should wait for more sound facts to come out.
This just gets more bizarre every day.
I heard yesterday on 670 The Score in Chicago (home of the Boers and Bernstein show-the mid day guys for the Score have been absolutley brutal in their coverage for PSU. Dan Bernstein specifically has been in all out attack mode each day something comes out-so much so he receives death threats\anti semetic remakrs on an hourly basis) that the reports were conflicting. They are even more extreme in their hatred for PSU than I am, and said something to the effect of "What CBS is saying doesn't neccessarily mean what Radar is saying might not be true). One source seems to say its residual JS creepiness, while another alleges something even more sinister, so I won't be proclaiming "SEX RING!" until more facts come out.
Agree it's probably best to wait until more facts come out. But I gotta say, when I learned that Gricar had disappeared while investigating, something in the back of my head told me this was even bigger than just Sandusky. And no one will ever convince me Second Mile was anything but a cover to give Sandusky access to troubled youth he could prey on. I hope this isn't true, but man, it very well could be.
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Apparently the DerryPharmer commentor on BSD has been hinting all along that this is much bigger and sicker than what's been uncovered. When this was reported, his response was "And the Volcano begins to erupt....".
Another interesting comment in this fanpost from ckmneon who relates a Sandusky discussion he had with a retired sheriff who said the following: “Show me a pedophile, and I’ll show you somebody with a ton of child porn. 100% of the time in my 30 years doing the job. This is either the sloppiest police work I’ve ever seen or the guy really isn’t guilty.”
So many interesting remarks to comment on in this thread. Here's an interesting one from BRJ75 that pretty much should disgust anyone outside the cult. "I say blow this whole story up. And yes probably there will be some connections to Penn State, but if we’ve been paying attention, there already was. But if this story is far more reaching than just Penn State and out into Pennsylvania Politics and the upper echelon, the current narrative will be blown to hell." IOW, he hopes Sandusky was part of some huge pedophelia ring so it will take the focus off of Penn State.
But don't say there isn't a culture that revolves around the football team and places its sanctity at the top of their lists....They want this to be worse so PSU comes out better....Fuck them. Again. Fuck them in their stupid, stupid faces.
Another thing that is starting to wear me down-this narative and tone that is being taken about a war, or 'shots being fired' or whatever other things they say. This isn't anyone attacking PSU for no good reason. This is all coming your way because your school allowed itself to be stupid in a time where they absolutley couldn't afford to be stupid. This whol narrative about 'fighting back' and chanelling wartime imagery is again another example of this attitude.
Brewster, I think you're way off. I would never say faces . . .
The heartbreaking thing about this whole rape scandal is that Sandusky (& if it's true - Second Mile donors, others) purposefully & calculatingly preyed upon these poor boys, because many of them had no father to go home to. They picked & chose the ones to rape, knowing that those kids couldn't go home & tell their father, or whoever, what had happened. This had to eat away inside & ruin those kids' lives. Just really disgusting. Unimaginably horrible. There is good in this world & their is evil in this world. Sandusky is a stark reminder of evil.
Had Jerry Sandusky died in 2005, Penn Staters would have gone on believing he was a great humanitarian....Only Joe and Co. would have ever really known.
after I communicate earlier this month 08/2012 with Lynne Abraham who is respresenting Second Mile officials & Joe McGettigan from the Attorney Generals office regarding Sandusky being involved with a tri-state (PA-NJ-NY) pedophile ring using Second Mile as a front for child related prostitution & child porn also involving serial pedophile Ed Savitz who illegally purchased child pornographic material from a Philadelphia based company called Brighton Enterprises 1977-1981 that was a criminal front for NYC's Gambino Crime Family's illegal porn business with such "Goodfellas" as Tony Trombetta, Richie Kuklinski, Jimmy Burke, Chucky Smith & Robert DiBernarado. Back in 1977-1981 I was a high risk adolescent juvenile delinquent who criminally associated with mobsters, pedophiles, corrupt politicians and dirty cops. Ed Savitz was a wealthy politically connected Philadelphia businessman who was a key person in a tri state highly organized pedophile ring involving Jerry Sandusky, The Second Mile organization, hundreds of tri-state (PA-NJ-NY) low income at-risk adolescent boys, several members of the Gambino & Lucchese crime families, corrupt Philadelphia area politicians & policemen 1977-1981 Philadelphia District Attorney Ed Rendell, Philadelphia Mayor Bill Green Sr, Pennsylvania Senator Vince Fumo, Philadelphia democratic committeeman Bob Brady, Philadelphia City Council President George X Schwartz, Philadelphia Police Commissioner Morton Solomon, Philadelphia Police Officer Danny Faulkner. All of the above mentioned individuals either were directly involved with this tri-state child porn pedophile ring or acted as pedophile enablers in protecting said pedophile-child porn operators. I Greg Bucceroni was molested & sexually exploited over 250 seperate times by Ed Savitz and other wealthy politically connected pedophiles directly criminally associated with Jerry Sandusky and The Second Mile operations. Now Second Mile & law enforcement officials want to close up shop and run with thier tails between their legs in avoiding the far bigger picture of what really happened with Sandusky & Second Mile. It is truly sad that all of the blame was placed on Joe Paterno & Penn State officials while TSM & AG officials protected thier political & millionare buddies. Reported by Greg Bucceroni Adolescent sexual abuse TSM pedophile ring victim / survivor.
Now there is a user, Derry Pharmer, who has made some incredibly frightening statements about this stuff. I did a little looking at some of his past comments and he appears to be someone in the know over at PSU. Something about the 'Volcano just beginning to erupt' has me really worried this might be true.
Apparently DerryPharmer is a booster and was a personal friend of Joe Paterno.
Locally (40 miles away), one of the first rumors to spread when the scandal hit back in November 2011 was that some kind of a ring was involved, as was Gricar's disappearance. But then that rumor died down until now, maybe.
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