I hope so! Rip it down already!!
They're waiting until they've rounded up enough riot shields and pepper spray.
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
In a related story, the Paterno's are launching their own task force to decide (independently and unbiased, of course) if the statue should or should not be taken down.
Like they really have a say so. The Paterno's really need to take a step back and let this thing blow over.
Ha, that was a little joke on my part. Sarcasm, as always, is hard to translate in type. Just my poking fun at their appointing a legal team to re-read the Freeh report to put their own spin on the facts to "prove" the Enabler was innocent.
Both staged, interesting point you're making there.
Perhaps Penn State is FINALLY coming to grips with the fundamental failure of their insular Happy Valley culture, and how the rest of the world views them and what happened there. Take the damn thing down and give it to the Paterno family. Or bury it's head in the sand and leave it sticking up as a cautionary fable.
" All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
"Intercourse M*chigan" - Buckeyevet
This is an easy one. Ask yourself, "If there was no statue of this man right now, would I erect one?" Of course the answer is no, so...duh.
Penn State fans have, as expected, rushed to the defense of Gary Pinkel. In case you missed it, Drinky Pinky said the following.
"It's such a tragedy...And however you analyze it you can't erase all that the guy has done"
And here is where Penn State is truly missing the point of Joe Paterno's legacy. More than just his knowledge of Jerry's actions have come out in recent news. First and foremost, lets not ignore the fact that he watched a known sexual predator operate in and around his facilities. Beyond that he created and monitored the code of secrecy that was the norm at Penn State. Cleary the worst offenses he is guilty of involve his lack of action involved Sandusky but there's more to Joe than that. Simply put-he was not a good guy who made mistakes. Rather he was a bad guy who did some good. Joe Paterno's reputation should be totally destroyed as we know it today but Penn State fans, and Paterno supporters fail to acknowledge that their hero was no hero at all.
Assuming he didn't strong arm the school into letting discipline be his thing, the second a child gets raped and you know it and don't do anything, NOTHING YOU DID PREVIOUSLY MATTERED. Child Rape doesn't fall under the "Made a poor choice" umbrella the way, say, drinking and driving does. Anything associated with the pre meditated, and systematic sexual assault of children falls under the "Ya don fucked up" umbrella and everything about the people involved changes fundamentally. Joe isn't a flawed hero. He is an absolute disgrace to humanity. Penn State fans never fail to amaze me with the depth and breadth of their stupidity.
I'm sure some jackass college kids with nothing better to do will 'defend' the statue. I hope they get tear gassed too. Their need to have Joe's reputation remain is unbearable at this point. Anyone who stops what should be done should get kicked in the nards, at least thrice.
To hell with Joe Paterno. To hell with Penn State. "WE ARE" "ENABLERS!"
Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would be more obvious.
What you said x 1000. Well put. I would also note that I am tired of the crap about how "he changed lives & molded young men". The young men he coached were elite athletes, getting a scholarship to a prestigous college. If they had not gone to Penn State, they would have gone to OSU, Alabama, UM, Nebraska, etc.... where they would have been surrounded by coaches, mentors, tutors, and adoring fans with every opportunity to further their lives and careers. Yet the victims all came from broken homes & poor socioeconomic backgrounds, just desperately wanting a male role model in their life that they could look up to and trust. Just being available to those kids, showing them any kindness, showing them that there is a different world out there - and that you CAN succeed might have been enough to change their lives. Instead they got a sick, twisted monster that permenently damaged them. And the gods that be in the adult world looked the other way as they were cast off as worthless. After all, they couldn't contribute to the football program.
The most gut wrenching thing I read in all of this nightmare was from one kid who had been raped by Sandusky. They asked him how he felt about Sandusky, and he said (I'm paraphrasing) that "I'm not really sure how I feel. I don't feel much emotion these days..... I think there's just a hole where my soul is supposed to be. I dunno."
@ Brewster ... amen, brother!
Mizzou should adjust Pinkel's contract so that he has to perform a breathalizer test before he makes any public comments.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
I have to disagree with you Brewster. I think drinking and driving is much too common, and it should be delt with much more seriously. It destroys lives just like any other serious crime.
Then again, I don't mind you taking a shot at Pinkel.
Not my original point. Nor did I want to downplay drinking and driving. What I'm saying though is this.
Tonight is friday. I plan on heading out on the town and getting good and schnockered up. I'll watch Verlander\Peavy and either drink in celebration (when my White Stockings kick the tar out of that unibrow having fireballer) or in misery (when my beloved White Stockings get smeared by said unibrower). I almost always take a cab to and from wherever I end up but lets say I decide to drive home. Let's then pretend I get pulled over and get a DUI. I will wake up tommorow morning and say "Man, that was really a poor choice" because it was. It was a bad decision that capped off a night full of them. Joe Paterno doesn't get to say he made a bad decision. He made years and years and years worth of them each and every time he saw Jerry Sandusky in and around Penn State. It isn't a bad choice one time like my mythical DUI. Paterno supporters don't get to say "Joe really made A (meaning ONE) bad choice but was a great guy otherwise".
That's what I'm trying to say. Dig?
This is the first that I've heard of Gary Pinkel coming to Paterno's defense. I thought Pinkel was a good dude when he was at Toledo. Why on earth would he open his trap at this point?
I wonder how Pinkel would have felt if it were his son that was raped by JS? Wow. Just wow.
I like the idea of taking the statue and burying it, head first, in the sand.
If someone read this with no knowledge of the situation, they would think that Joe Paterno was some sort of child rapest dictator of the realm of happy valley, who strong armed the populous into worshiping him.
That is to say, stop wetting yourself.
In case you missed it, turns out this report was false. The PSU BoT (aka PSUbots) did not vote to take the statue down. As you can see here. Of course we should have known better, these people for the most part still have their heads in the sand. Especially the leadership (as it has been, as it got them all into this mess in the first place).
Those who knelt in Paterno's yard and before his statue are feeling pretty foolish right about now.