Gee is Now Open to a Playoff

February 13, 2012 at 6:04p    by Sarah    
72 Comments

Comments

funky123's picture

Is there some way to send Gee back to Vandy? Guaranteed they were jumping for joy when he left.

Denny's picture

Nope, he's our president - and a damn good one at that.

Taquitos.

funky123's picture

Gee is a phony but a good president? What world are you living in?

William's picture

You do realize that because of Gee's policies, Vanderbilt's athletics are much better? By disbanding their athletic department and having it absorbed under Student Life they've experienced much greater success competitively and financially. Anyone who wants Gee fired is an idiot. He's done incredible things for this university during his tenure.

Denny's picture

A world in which sarcasm is used far too effectively, apparently.

Taquitos.

funky123's picture

Your just too highbrow for me DENNY.

jme's picture

The unanimous opinion (at least among the fellow students that I know) seems to be that Gee is a good president. He isn't without flaws, of course, but he is doing quite a good job.

hodge's picture

Graduated in December, I can tell you that I knew very few students who didn't like him.  I knew a girl who went to NC State on a cross-country scholarship, she almost walked away from it her junior year because Gordon Gee suggested she should transfer.  The man's beloved, and though I wish it could have been extended longer, the tuition freeze he instituted was huge.  In doing so he also led the charge for other public universities in the state to follow.

buckeyechad's picture

Thank you! People that say stuff like that about Gee obviously don't know much about what he's done/is doing for our University.

hodge's picture

I'm with you one hundred percent, sir.  Too many people gauge his performance solely upon the comments he makes towards the football team--a view that is so narrow-minded that it completely obscures the fact that he's one of the best (if not the best) university president in the country.  Gee's been instrumental in securing grants for OSU (especially in the form of one Leslie Wexner), and the new Medical Center will be one of the nation's largest once completed.  This school has always been big, but our footprint--both academically and culturally--has never been bigger.

They were cheering for him when he left Brown though, his tenure was incredibly tumultuous as he tried to run an Ivy like a corporation, resulting in large-scale dissatisfaction.  They celebrate him every year, per wikipedia:

Gee's tumultuous tenure at Brown is commemorated annually with the "E. Gordon Gee Lavatory Complex," a collection of portable toilets that appears during Spring Weekend.

 

buckeyedude's picture

I'm just glad OSU doesn't have to play Little Sisters of the Poor.  Those nuns are tenacious!

 

 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Wow, when did that start happening?  Welcome aboard, Gordon, you're only about 8 years late on the "BCS sucks" bandwagon, haha...

Class of 2010.

Denny's picture

My radio doesn't get 9.71 Sarah. Gee obviously is trying to hide his statements. WHAT A PHONY

Taquitos.

awwwwwwop's picture

I can tell you first hand that they were sad to see Dr. Gee go here at Vanderbilt even though Chancellor Zeppos is doing a pretty good job, Dr. Gee did great things for Vandy and is doing/has done better ones for Ohio State.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

not as sad as someone who had to see him go and suffer under that B, Holbrook.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Just to clarify: Holbrook was not Gee's immediate replacement.

Whatever Gee's true feelings about a playoff, it's unlikely he will be around to see a new system come to pass. He probably sees where things are headed and doesn't want to be thought of as a dinosaur.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

BED's picture

Having lived through Karen Holbrook's war on students, I can tell you that Gee is an amazing president.  I was a member of student government under both administrations, and Gee goes out of his way to help the student body, something KHo was vehemently opposed to.

I think the issue on this blog is that people only think about the athletic programs.  Gee has very little to do with that.  That's Gene Smith.  The Athletic Department is not even part of the University in terms of budgeting, it's a separate entity, thanks to Pres. Mendenhall (or Orton, I forget which).

Additionally, some members of the commentariat are not alumni, so their opinions don't really have any basis in reality. (No offense intended).  And some of the older members of the forum may have lived through Gee's first stint, about which I am obviously unqualified to comment.  However, the man's doing great things here and now for the University.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

Denny's picture

^ yais.

Taquitos.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Karen Hollbrook should be jailed for murdering everyone's fun.

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

Haters Gonna Hate's picture

I loved Karen Holbrook's views of gameday and everything else fun. Either riot or drunken orgies haha

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2997669

"Because I couldn't go for three" - Woody

Muss_15's picture

Yes, unfortunately I'm not sure what gameday she was attending...

I for one could not have been happier than when Gee replaced her.

buckeyedude's picture

It seems to me that from OSU students, Gee has much support. After the previous OSU prez, I guess anyone would have been an improvement. From outside the university, Gee looks like an out of touch elitist, pompous, bow-tie wearing geek that puts his foot in his mouth on nearly a weekly basis.

If they could just put a muzzle on the guy...

 

 

Denny's picture

A few things.

  • Opinions from 'outside of the university' are irrelevant.
  • Use of the word 'elitist' is completely non-constructive. What exactly makes him 'elitist'? Does he use too many big words for your liking?
  • Pompous? The man's there to make money for the university and to better the academic standing of the institution. Jobs like that require a certain amount of ego.
  • Bow ties have their place; in an academic setting they fit right in.
  • Calling him a 'geek' is completely out of touch -- he's an academic charge of an institution of higher learning. Would you prefer a dumb-sounding meathead in charge of Ohio's flagship public university?
  • A 'weekly basis' -- so far, there's been three real noteable comments that Gee has made: at the initial presser re: Tressel firing Gee, the 'Little Sisters of the Poor' comment, and the Polish Army comment. Beyond that he's done nothing embarrassing -- unless you're just looking for reasons to not like him, in which case you've lost objectivity already.

Taquitos.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

^ #WhatHeSaid

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
BED's picture

Gee has done lots for the University.  OSU sports fans don't see it, and that's okay.  But don't judge the dude on his sports-based comments, he's far more than that to the University.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

NC_Buckeye's picture

I'm in agreement with Bed but have to acknowledge that I have no firsthand knowledge of Gee's accomplishments (other than reading about them).

A tOSU commentor on another site (OTE) had some exposure to Gee as a PH.D. candidate and brought up a criticism of Gee that I'm interested in. I would like to know if anyone here can add to this. The commentor said that Gee is emphasizing the recruitment and development of foreign students in the graduate school as a university priority (specifically at the expense of  recruiting and developing local Ohio graduates for our graduate programs). I'm probably not paraphrasing the commentor's viewpoint adequately.

If this is true, I don't have a problem with foreign students finding their way into tOSU graduate school. But I don't think it should be the university's goal to supercede local Ohio talent in favor of those who studied abroad. JMO.

/For all I know, this could be completely untrue. So if you know differently, please correct me.

Denny's picture

Depending on the field, there often isn't a high supply of Ohio-based (or US-based) potential graduate students. I can only really relay my experience in STEM (and chemistry more specifically), but there just aren't a ton of domestic students interested in going to graduate school in STEM. If those spots aren't open and research funding is available, you don't turn down funding -- so instead, you look for foreign students to fill those slots.

And in terms of a strictly fiscal policy for the university, it may behoove the university to draw from as many potential donor pots as possible -- including those overseas.

I'm not trying to be an apologist for this type of policy (if it's indeed a real thing), but it's grounded in some reality.

Taquitos.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

NC_Buckeye's picture

OK, I actually went out and looked up the comment I referred to above:

I think he’s too focused on internationalizing OSU and strengthening the grad student side of things at the cost of focusing on the local aspects and regular students that a state school should consider. OSU’s problems are not a lack of Chinese students or relations. Nor should OSU be too focused on forcing all the non-elite students to regional campuses. One of OSU’s strengths is the blending of rural and urban students and providing exposure to both. I say this as a former elite student who went on to grad school elsewhere.

So I had the guy's complaint wrong on a couple different levels. He asserts that Gee is focused on internationalizing ALL of the university as well as placing a priority on the grad school at the expense of undergrads and in doing so is failing to educate/develop Ohio's populace. [Apologies to the commentor, br27.]

Anyways Denny, I think your assertion works for this claim as well. I actually see the merit of both viewpoints.

Just wondering if any other alumnus from either of the Gee eras agree with the quote above.

hodge's picture

Saying non-elite students are forced to regional campuses is a little misleading.  Yes, if your grades aren't up to snuff, you will not be permitted to enroll at Main Campus.  You are accepted by the University though, and permitted to enroll at a regional location.  This works on two fronts: it allows OSU main campus to be the most exclusive public school in the state, along with accepting most every student who applies.  

The reason that the aforementioned statement is misleading is because regional students are permitted to transfer to main campus in their next year of school provided they maintain a minumum 2.0 GPA (I think).

I understand the complaint about the excess of Chinese students, but The Ohio State University (Main Campus) is the 3rd largest university in the country (and that the two in front of it, ASU and UCF, aren't in the same academic league), why shouldn't it beckon to international students?  It's not like international students make up the majority of the student body, or anywhere close to that.  Besides, I don't see Oxford's students complaining that it's an international destination school.  

Gee has expanded the university's academic profile (a job Holbrook started), while subsequentially increasing our impact on the national stage (we're up to like #51 in the rankings of American Universities).  He has a relentless vision towards progressing the university, he wants Ohio State to be a trendsetter--a shining beacon this state can be proud of.  I can't fault him for that.

funky123's picture

Agreed, Holbrook was a disaster. Couldn't have been rid of her soon enough.

Since this is a sports site and the article had to do with sports that is what I was commenting on. Gee has always had plenty to say about sports. And usually it caused foot in mouth disease and did more harm than good for OSU. And to think that Gee has little to do with the athletic programs at OSU is naive at best. The athletic program is OSU's cash cow.

Since, according to you BED, that only alumni should be commenting on a subject like this since they are the only ones with a basis in reality, no offense taken since I am not going to judge posters like you do, but I was on campus long before you were born, not as a student wouldn't want to take that credit, and far more than you ever were. You might want to take a look at this article about Gee and the comments by alumni. They are far more credible than myself.

http://www.thelantern.com/campus/gee-receives-raise-more-than-140k-bonus-1.2737505

 

 

Pam's picture

The AD is a cash cow for the AD, not for the University. It is self supporting and receives no  tuition or tax dollars.  The Ohio St. University could operate without it. The cash cow is the research money that is generated by being a member of the AAU. Gee oversees a $5B budget and does it very well.  After Les Wexner gave his $100M gift he said it would not have happened "if not for Gordon Gee" As an alum, I am thrilled he is such a good steward for my beloved alma mater.

BED's picture

This.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

William's picture

As a student, I want Gee as my university's president. To be blunt I pay tuition, you don't, so therefore I should have a say, and your want or view on Gee is nullified. Gee is THE best public university, if not overall university president in the nation. His policies have led to the expansion of the Medical Center, as well as the heightened academic status of both the College of Engineering and the Business School. He's not accountable for athletics in the manner that Gene Smith is, in fact the athletics don't make up any part of the University's expenditures. They spend solely from their own revenue base. He's done a magnificent job as president, and will continue to do so, even while misinformed folks like you spout off about how he should be fired.

funky123's picture

And now you know why OSU fans get the bad rap that they do. Because of arrogant students like you.

William's picture

Not arrogant students, it's assclowns like you that have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gee.

BED's picture

Dude, no reason to get so pissed.  My point was that judging Gee based on a few comments he's made to the media about football is dumb.  If you want to argue about his actual job (which the football program is not a part of), that's a different matter.  I know that there have been some criticisms of Gee that are valid, but the fact of the matter is that he's bumped OSU up in the academic rankings a lot during his tenure.

And my other point was, that unlike Karen Holbrook, Gee cares about the undergrads, who form the main base of the University as an entity.  Non-alumni/students don't typically understand the problems of the University qua university.  That's all I meant.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

Doc's picture

I think EGG is the best President we have had for years.  He is doing wonderful things and the academic status of tOSU is steadily on the rise.  He may put his foot in his mouth on occasion, but who doesn't.  My mother-in-law thinks he should be fired after his comments about the Polish Army.  She is of Polish decent from the UP of Meatchicken.  She is also a fan of AACC.  I told her his description of the situation was spot on and asked her husband, my father-in-law, a retired history teacher for verification.  He agreed with me and the conversation was over.  In our "TMZ" society a sound bite is all we want.  We fail to dig deeper and look for the truth.

 

Now, Gene Smith is a different story.

"Say my name."

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

surprised she got the joke.

 

I KID I KID

Banned from ATO since June 3rd 2PMish PST

Doc's picture

I was too.

"Say my name."

Bucks's picture

I refer to him as Orville Reddenbacher but in a very affectionate way. The man has been a tremendous asset to the University.

DJ Byrnes's picture

Gee will be CEO of Ohio State for as long as he wants because he runs Ohio State like a business. His forays into athletics have hamstrung the University at times, but his the body of his work (expansion of the medical center, etc) compensate for that. 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Texas Buckeye's picture

I would agree with all the above statements that attest to Dr. Gee as a wonderful asset to tOSU. Not only is he doing many great things to advance the school, but he is also very personable and has a genuine care for all the students. When my brother came up to visit last year, he was lucky enough to meet him (walking around High Street on a Friday Night no less) and he said that it was very neat that he would be out talking to students and taking everything in. I'm still very proud to say that he is the President of our school and I'm excited to see that Ohio State is starting to get more recognition as a great school rather than just a school with a really good football team.

I've heard about a few things about the previous administration with Holbrook, but I don't know enough. This is only my second year living in Ohio so I don't know much about the situation. How bad was it? If someone were to explain that, I'd really appreciate it. 

It's true... We really are a bunch of nuts!
Go Bucks!

awwwwwwop's picture

Forced to drink out of solos on gameday? Holbrook. Do you need to know anything else? She did do good things for the university as a whole in bringing our academic fitness up but from what I understand of a year with her and my siblings before hand she often did so with what seemed to be a contempt of the student body.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Denny's picture

She came off as extremely judgemental towards the student body. My 4 years at OSU were all during her presidency, and I saw her on campus once. She was getting out of a limo along College Drive and then walked to her office.

Her comments about the student body after she left did nothing to help her image in my eyes.

Taquitos.

funky123's picture

Alum

Tue Jan 3 2012 16:08

Mary
Your article is not balanced. Where are a couple of quotes from students who believe that President Gee did not deserve this raise?
Please practice fair and balanced journalism! Thank you.

Another PhD Candidate

Tue Jan 3 2012 13:54

To Alum and PhD Candidate:
I'll drink to that! I could've said it better, but only marginally ;) Hey hey! Ho ho! Gordon Gee has got to go!

Alum and PhD Candidate

Tue Jan 3 2012 13:41

There are so many problems at OSU because Gee and his top administrators do not care about what is going on below them! If they truly cared, then they would make sure that the OSU administrators and workers in Housing; Food Service; the Student Services Center; Student Health Insurance/Services; Campus Safety; the Libraries; Transportation and Parking, etc. could do their jobs correctly and efficiently so that the burden of straightening out messes is not placed on the students! Gee and his top administrators have no clue as to how frustrating OSU has become for students because of this!
Plus, students have to keep paying more and more money as the services at OSU become less and less and lousier and lousier! Gee should not get any future raises until he straightens out all of the messes that are going on below him! And, if he and his top administrators cannot do that, then they all should be fired! While at it, some of the administrators and workers (below Gee and his top administrators) at OSU who are not doing their jobs well should be fired, too!

Since Gee has been back as OSU's President, there has been a real disservice to students. Yes, many of the young students are fooled by Gee because he parties with them. Well, one day you will realize that Gee is not worth having here at OSU!

Anonymous

Tue Jan 3 2012 12:24

Gee's and Smith's salaries do not agree with the university's financial reality -- not to mention their performance.

Buckeye Alum '75

Tue Jan 3 2012 11:40

Next thing we will hear is that Gene Smith will get the same treatment with raise and bonus. WHY ?
Ashamed to be an Alum some days.

Anonymous

Tue Jan 3 2012 11:28

That is such a shame; he & Smith should be Fired for what has happened to OSU these past years. There is no way that any person on the Top of Administration should get a raise. The workers should though.

Pam's picture

You posted the link. Why are you posting this?  Obviously the majority of the alum here like and respect the contributions of Dr. Gee. Some anonymous posters on the Lantern site won't change that.

William's picture

Go poll a group of students on the oval about whether or not they believe Gee should be president of this university, you will receive a resounding yes. The student body loves the guy. He's a genuinely nice guy who has done more for this university than anyone else not named Les Wexner, the past decade.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Before I say anything, Gee has my full support. I love the guy. But "go poll a group of students" is a very iffy argument. You could poll a group of students on a lot of things... If you understand what I am saying.

William's picture

Of course that's true. A better rebuttal would have been if Gee is so horrid then why is he often considered to be the best public university president in the nation? My original point was that he has the support of the student body, and in the end the university is here to fulfill the students' needs, not those of ignorant football fans..

JakeBuckeye's picture

Gotcha. I agree with you. You hit the spot with those last few words. I just couldn't believe how narrow minded some of us were after tat-gate hit. Those calling for Gee's job, I mean. I just wanted them to understand that the world does not revolve around Ohio State football and basketball.  I think at least the Penn State scandal showed those folks some perspective.

Denny's picture

The sheer notion of 'PhD candidates' asking for 'fair and balanced journalism' is depressing on a number of levels.

You already linked to this. There's no need to copy/paste. We get it -- you don't like Gee. The rest of us do, and there's clearly no convincing us otherwise -- regardless of how many halfassed arguments you attempt to make.

Taquitos.

btalbert25's picture

I just had a couple of of comments based off of the opinoins in the letters above.  First, it was my experience at my college, and from talking to friends who went to other colleges that most of my and their interactions with employees  of the university were similar to those at the DMV.  You waited for help, and when you got it, you walked away frustrated.  Other staff like library were usually students and some where helpful some were not.  Same with the health center, student union, etc.  Food services were often students or ex-cons with prison ink.  Again, my experience was not Ohio State it was NKU, but I've talked to friends who want to UK, IU, UofL and UC and many felt the same way.  University staffs rarely value or deliver great customer service.  I never went around saying my university president shouldn't get a raise because the lady in the Bursar office treated me like I was a moron. 

As for the comment about Gee's salary doesn't agree with the university's financial reality, I would say do Thad or Urban's salary?  They are athletic coaches who help fund the self sufficent athletic department and they make a lot of money to do so.  Isn't it fair that Gee is responsible for a more significant role at the university than that of a coach.  Isn't italso fair to say he is responsible for a far greater significant amount of money coming into the university than any coach our anyone else would be for that matter?

Again, maybe I didn't understand the point the people were trying to make.  Anyway, those were a couple of thoughts I had. 

awwwwwwop's picture

I fail to see how 6 anonymous sources refutes the points of the 7 current and former students who have posted on here.  Is Gee a little heavy handed sometime? Sure. but he is a damn good president who is doing great thing for the University's image in the nation and the world.  The school has gone up about 10 spots in the US News Rankings in the last 3 years. Retention Rates are up, grade and test averages are up.  I know since I went into school, the requirements for the honors program have gone up like 4-5 ACT points. Thats absurd.

Edited for a point of weak arguing and a stupid comment by me.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Doc's picture

Could it be the guy is a troll and looking to stir the pot?  His avatar is a tattooed up JT for crying out loud.

"Say my name."

funky123's picture

Nope. Thought the avatar was appropriate since Tress got screwed by a few stupid football players thinking only of themselves. Tress fell on the grenade for Smith and Gee without a doubt.

Just to comment a little on the Troll comment, you can find me on the CBS sports site with the same name and avatar. Had several Buckeye fans ask me about the avatar and wanted to use it. On Cleveland.com same name but a Chief Wahoo avatar. Baseball is my passion. On MLive freeookie no avatar which doesn't really matter because they delete most of my posts within 5 minutes no matter the content. Hardly a troll.

funky123's picture

I wondered if you knew these 7 posters personally A6WOP. To know for sure that they were ever really students.

Isn't it funny how when we agree with a poster they become relevant and have credibility. But when we disagree they are anonymous and without credibility and possibly a troll?

funky123's picture

"Buckshots" appropriate. All agreed?

hodge's picture

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937938_19379...

^Read that.  I hear Time Magazine is a somewhat decent publication.

funky123's picture

Good article. Never said that Gee wasn't doing good things for the university in education and research. But this is a sports site. He is commenting on a sports subject. A subject that he and Delany have been part of a hand full of people that have been stonewalling a playoff system for years. Now suddenly he has a change of heart? For the people on this thread that think the athletic department and the university are not connected cannot see the forest for the trees. If that were the case Gee would have done the same thing at OSU that he did at Vandy. Because Vandy's AD was a liability to the university. It has recovered to a point but has taken years. During his tenure as chancellor at Vanderbilt, Gee disbanded Vandy's athletics department and completely revamped the way the university did intercollegiate athletics business. When he made the sweeping changes at Vandy in 2003, including but not limited to the elimination of the athletics director’s position, Gee wrote that “many athletic departments exist as separate, almost semi-autonomous fiefdoms within universities.” Unfortunately, Gee lost his religion when he left Vandy for his second tour of duty as president of OSU in 2007. At Vandy, he kept athletics on a tight leash. At OSU he lets the tail wag the dog. What I said about sending Gee back to Vandy was somewhat tongue in cheek, somewhat. In my opinion Gee needs to stick with what he does best for the university and stay out of the athletic departments business since they are not connected.(tongue in cheek) And please stop making comments and doing interviews about sports related topics as related to OSU. You are doing far more harm than good.

William's picture

He's made two comments about athletics his entire tenure. How can you even be critical of that?You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. OSU athletics and the university are obviously connected, the athletics represent the university, no one here has contested that. The Athletic Department is however seperate from the university in its expenditures as it is self-supporting. Your previous argument was that Gee should be fired for his "blunders" with respect to athletics, which quite frankly doesn't make sense as you then go on to state that he has doe much for this university academically. Also what does it even matter that this is a sports related blog? You're wavering on your stance. 

funky123's picture

Two comments, really?

Where in any of my posts did I say that he should be fired?

He is making a sports related comment. Is that one of the two?

BED's picture

Not to stoke the fire, but:

Is there some way to send Gee back to Vandy? Guaranteed they were jumping for joy when he left.

Just sayin'.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

funky123's picture

Like I said in a previous post that comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, somewhat. If OSU couldn't send him back then they would have to keep him. Not fire him. Yea I know that is parsing words. My fault. Didn't think it would set off a fire storm. But when the posts about how great of an administrator started coming in which had nothing to do with his interview on the radio and his past history of running his mouth about the BCS, bowl system and having a playoff system I couldn't resist posting back.

BED's picture

I think most of us were just trying to correct the record to what was perceived as an unwarranted attack on a great university administrator.  Trying to separate the man's job from the athletic aspects of the unversity.

I understand and agree with your comments about his history of stupid sports comments and blind support of the BCS.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

BED's picture

We are more in agreement than I initially thought.  I agree with you in general that Gee is making dumb comments regarding athletics, including his lack of support (until now, apparently) for a playoff.

My argument was that Gee is much more than that to the University.  Especially considering that our Athletic Department is a separate entity, and receives no taxpayer or student funds for its operation (save their season ticket $).

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

funky123's picture

The AD may be a separate entity from the university, which has been stated at nauseam on this thread, but it sure funds a lot of the academic side of the university too. Another point that I have been trying to get across but apparently to no avail.

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2011/10/ohio_states_athletic_departmen.html

 

William's picture

Where have you previously stated that athletic revenue has funded academic expenditures? I know that is the case, as Thompson Library's renovations were in part paid for with athletic funds. You however are jumping around your original posts.

BrewstersMillions's picture

My 4 year tenure at OSU was during the Holbrook administration.  Here is my short list of things I would rather have as president while I was at Ohio State.

 

1) Gordon Gee.

2) Jim "The Walrus" Bollman-

3) An actual Walrus.

4) The old Larkins Hall building Janitorial staff. They would probably rule in some sort of knights of the round table fashion. I'm still working out the details.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

BED's picture

lol at 4.

The Ohio State University, College of Arts & Sciences, Class of 2006
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009