Dom Tiberi One-on-One with Urban Meyer

February 13, 2012 at 4:21a    by Jason Priestas    
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Jason Priestas's picture

10tv hates permalinks, so click the "Sports" link on the left side and the video you want should be at the top of the list.

LouGroza's picture

Do you think Urban will have the guys ready to bust through a brick wall for "the group of players from Ohio that they got to play for that team up north"? Should be their new name BTW.

Buckeyejason's picture

I wouldn't call guys like Spence, Washington, Schutt, Pittman, Dodson, Marcus, Perry, Ball, Dunn etc etc marginal..but hey, what do I know?

BUCKEYES BABY!

Poison nuts's picture

He specifically did not call those guys whos names you mentioned marginal.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

ysuosu1's picture

OK now I have to say something. I DO NOT like this about UFM. First he says he'd take I think it was Kyle D over every other recruit, and now this. This old school thought of making others feel like crap hoping it will motivate them is so out of date. Going to YSU and watching Tressel  since the 80's one thing he could do is take mediocre teams and make them great. We all know it can be done. I think opening your mouth to say you're disappointed in many of your players is unprofessional and not what a coach is supposed to be all about. I know he's great...yes I'm excited to have him...and this activity really bugs me. FWIW- just my opinion.

LP

LouGroza's picture

If you listen to it he says he doesn't know what he has with some of this class. Since most of the class was recruited prior to him arriving he hasn't looked too deeply at them. He said he would let us know after the spring game. He did not say he was disappointed in any player. Where was that quote? Marginal means they could go either way and he is open to them proving different. This is much better than the "lets give everyone a participation trophy for trying" attitude. Put some fire in them. The collapse at Nebraska won't happen with this attitude. IMO.

Jason Priestas's picture

It's definitely in there around the 40% mark.

LouGroza's picture

Are you saying he said he was disappointed with any recruit? That's what I was referring to. He said marginal but would say for sure after spring ball unless I missed it. Went back and listened but could not find him saying disappointed. I've been wrong before, several times before.

BuckeyeJim's picture

I think it is an excuse statement in case something doesn't work out that great this fall. It is like when I get on the first tee, I state how I couldn't sleep last night, the kid was crying, I was a little sick to my stomach,...If I hit a bad shot, I have all of my excuses out there for dubbing my drive. Come to think of it, I really can't think of a reason why any person would say what Urban said.

VestedInterest's picture

Big Boy comments for Big Boy football...geesh

He didn't name any names and by doing so leaves it up for scrutiny, creating competition to "not be the marginal guy" he was talking about. Sack up fellas, it's not a big deal. You don't go into camp inflating egos right off the bat. This isn't a 9-10 yr old soccer banquet where everyobody gets a ribbon.

Northbrook's picture

Exactly, and I have a feeling that if you give all you got and bust your ass you will not be considered marginal.

BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

Completely unnecessary.  I dont like how he called out Davonte Neal either in the coaches clinic speech he did. There's absolutely no reason to take shots at kids who havent even put on the uniform yet, or gone through workouts.

 

ThirdLegLouie's picture

I watched the coaches clinic speech and there wasn't one mention of Davonte Neal. Either I wasn't listening as closely as you (and if you can tell me the time where he says Davonte Neal, I'll gladly go listen and concede this point to you) or you are assuming Meyer was talking about Neal when he referenced an "out of state WR they stopped recruiting". I was always taught not to assume. There are several out of state WRs who were on OSU's radar that are not in the 2012 class- You have no way of factually concluding which player Meyer was talking about, if such player exists at all. Hell, it could be a hypothetical example used to illustrate his point of the imporatance he places on kids who finish plays. I agree, no need to take shots at kids unnecessarily, and I'm glad Meyer didn't. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Jdadams01's picture

I love how all of us talk about how we love Meyer's no nonsense, aggressive attitude and then whine when he is taking that same attitude into evaluating what he has to work with. So now all of a sudden you guys want him to be both aggressive and play all nice at the same time? How many comments have we had on here like "I can't wait until UFM drops 70 on everyone. No mercy!" and now you guys complain about this. Grow. Up. It's not like any of us have an issue calling a player out but then we whine when Urban does (and not even by name at that). The hypocrisy is shocking.

FormerBuck's picture

100 % agreed.  At younger levels feel free to stroke egos.  If you wanna be the best team and program in the country, you need to motivate the players to be the best they can be.  If he says how great this class is, where is their motivation to work hard?  Plus, if he's openly gaga over the incoming freshman, that may turn off the players currently on campus.  I'm guessing the people complaining about this are the same ones that think everyone should play the same minutes in high school, regardless of talent.

Poison nuts's picture

Hate to say it... but I just watched the interview a second time. I thought it was harmless at first but now I feel like he kind of said the guys he recruited are good - The rest of the guys might be marginal might not be...I have zero problem with the use of the calculated motivational tactic. I don't know if creating division between "his guys" & "the other guys" is best though. Just sayin. I'm a huge fan of our coach BTW...but this one comment I don't love.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

bassplayer7770's picture

He actively recruited "his guys", and he probably doesn't know a lot about "the other guys" yet.  I can't imagine any of these kids are so mentally fragile that they can't accept these comments from Coach Meyer.

Poison nuts's picture

You're likely right. I hope none of them are that mentally fragile. We'd be in bad trouble as being that mentally fragile would in turn make them marginal. I was was just thinking out loud that I'd prefer there was no division line drawn...All in all it's not a bad motivational practice, just throwing my 2 cents out.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

BuckeyeJim's picture

I think both of you are screwed up. Urban has bragged on some of his recruits only. That leaves the players recruited before Urban as the ones who include some marginal players. I believe he could have been more diplomatic about this top five class. His statements should be about the entire class. Any class, as a group, needs to work hard getting in condition, learning the play book, and buying into what Urban wants to do with this program. I don't like a coach who blames specific players. You win as a team. I think the comment only inspires division among players and coaches. I have great expectations for this team and I totally support Urban, but I think this comment was uncalled for.

William's picture

He said marginal players. He didn't single anyone out. It's a simple motivation tool. Not everything is going to be like it was with Tressel, where he babied the players and held their hands. You come here to win and Meyer is going to bring a new attitude here. Ever wonder why we got our ass kicked in the title game? It was because Meyer brought his guys ready to play, and Tressel had no control over his players, they were out partying like Jersey Shore cast members before the title game.

BuckeyeJim's picture

This is a tweet from Z Boren. Doesn't it make more sense to see the glass half full?

 

Zach Boren @ZBoren44

We are working n getting better as a team. So proud of my brothers out there giving it everything they have each n every day.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

"Urban has bragged on someof his recruits only"- Well, that's not true. He's mentioned Josh Perry several times. Wasn't Perry the very 1st recruit in the class? 

Based on your comments, you're not a fan of Urban's Champion's Club? 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
BuckeyeJim's picture

You are right about Perry. Any others? Mostly I heard about Dodson, Decker, Dunn, Pittman, Marcus, Reeves, Schutt, Spence, etc. Don't get me wrong. I love how he recruited and I am excited about the upcoming years. I don't think that "marginal" was a good term to use and it certainly seemed to me he was directing it at the recruits that signed with Luke. These guys signed on when the world was against us. I am a proud member of the bleed S and G Buckeye Club.

wside buck's picture

Hey I bleed scarlet and gray but i sure as hell couln't play on this level. We need talented individuals that are motivated to show what they are made of on the field.

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Well, technically, both Dunn and Washington were commited prior to Urban taking office. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
ThirdLegLouie's picture

+1000  

Couldn't have said it better myself JD

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Bucks's picture

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't care if it is him just being honest, using it for motivation or genuinely wishes he wasn't honoring the previous commits (which I'm sure he wishes some he didn't have to). He's the new HC & has changes he wants to make to both physical conditioning & mental approach. I'm behind him completely.

LouGroza's picture

Its not Meyers first rodeo. He mentioned the class at Florida that was heralded as the best ever. It ended up several players didn't even stay with the program. He is telling it like it is. These players are treated like men at this point. See Brian Kelly at Notre Dame screaming f-bombs on national tv at HIS players. If Urban does that we might have an issue. But saying what he said is him being honest and knowing what is in front of him and the team. Rather have it that way.

btalbert25's picture

Too many people loved Tressel speak where everyone was working hard and doing a fantastic job etc etc etc.  His most bold statement was, well we've got some work to do on a specific unit, or position.  That was basically n ice speak for we suck at that position.  Then he'd follow it up with but the kids are working hard or some other generic positive reinforcement type statement.  Of course this worked, especially on the O-line, right? lol. 

There's nothing wrong with what Urban said.  Let's get some competition brewing.  After last season we need some guys getting a fire lit under their butts.  He's not doing anything differently here than he has done anywhere else he's coached.  The results speak for themselves.  I trust what he's doing, and I trust the 2 rings, the pipeline he's built to the NFL, and the fact that he made Bowling Green and Utah relevant before making Florida the premier program in college football for a short stretch of time he was there.

Denny's picture

'I like Urban because he's driven but don't like him because he's mean.' - a lot of people here, essentially

Usually these things go hand-in-hand. Case in point: Jobs, Steven P.

Taquitos.

Jdadams01's picture

This. Football is not a "nice" game.

DefendOhio's picture

Couple things from the interview.

 

Meyer was a psychology major in college. I trust he knows what he's doing. These are the mind games coaches love to play with their players. No doubt he is trying to motivate them.

 

I thought it was interesting he said he will have to reach out to coaches who had bowl bans to find out how they handled it. Oh to be able to hear that phone call to Lane Kiffin. 

Tommy's picture

Meyer was a psychology major in college.

So were half of the girls down at your local strip club.

btalbert25's picture

I found it funny that at a local club in the Greater Cincinnati area, as well as the one in Vegas I went to, Marine Biology was a popular major.  I was thinking unless you are talking about Ohio River marine life, there's no ocean within several hundred miles of this area lol.  Vegas always cracked me up too.  It was thinking your in the EFFING DESERT. Anyways, I thought that was hilarious.  I guess the girls want to sound smart so guys believe that image that they are just doing it to put themselves through school, or if their is some handbook, where they suggest the girls pick a certain major. 

Even more hilarious than their major is that there's always that one guy in the group who pays for a 5 lap dances, buys the girl a drink, gives her money to play her songs, and then says what a sweetheart. Can you believe she's studying marine biology and is only doing this to put herself through school?  No, no I can't ha ha. 

Denny's picture

...is that a Titlest?

Taquitos.

faux_maestro's picture

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wanted to pretend that I was an architect.

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FormerBuck's picture

Bottom line is this...

College sports and life in general is all about competition.  If you think you are great and already the best, you have no motivation to work hard.  That is when complacency and eventually mediocrity set in.  When you are challenged by your boss (in this instance Urban) you can react one of two ways.  You can either sack up, take the bull by the horns and work your ass off to prove him wrong, or you can sit and sulk about how mean he is.  I think 100% of Buckeye fans would rather see the first group of guys on the field in the fall.  I want the guys that are willing to do whatever it takes to win every game by 50 and win National Championships...not the guys that are gonna piss and moan about the coach saying they are "marginal".  And you know what?  There are marginal players in this class and Urban is letting them know the only way they will see the field is by working their ass off to get better

 

NYC Buckeye's picture

I miss Jim Tressel...  

I'm not warming up to this guy so much...  I just don't feel a ton of sincerity behind most of his comments, especially when they ask him about the Michigan game...  I feel he is saying what he knows he is supposed to say....  the only thing I truly believe him on is his respect & admiration for Earle Bruce, that is clear... 

maybe, as a guy who would follow Jim Tressel off a bridge to this day if that is where he led me, the styles between the two are just so different (as most of you point out above) I am having trouble adjusting...  

OurHonorDefend09's picture

As a guy who is from Youngstown, has played for one of Tressel's former players, and has met Tressel a couple times, I too love him to death. 

However, I couldn't be farther apart on my feelings for Urban than you. His strong qualities are exactly what sometimes I wish Tressel had. He doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks of him, he's going to win and win by the rules. He just said exactly what was needed to be said because until these 18 year olds who played against high schoolers get to college and start working against other college students, they are all marginal.

The whole "Tat-Gate" scandal happened because players thought they were bigger and better than they were. Within my first 3 days of being a student at OSU, I met Terrelle Pryor at a house party. The kid's head was 10x bigger than it should have been and he had a complete douchebag vibe to him. While Urban seems to love Braxton, I don't think he'll coddle him like Tress did with TP. He loves his players (see Tebow, Tim), but I don't think he will let his love for a certain player put them above the rest of the team like it kinda seemed with Tressel.

 

All I know is as long as OSU wins games this fall, and isn't under NCAA scrutiny, I believe everyone's opinons on Urban will be all positive. 

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

NYC Buckeye's picture

I hear you... I agree that Tressel's fixation/obsession with Pryor is clearly what brought about his downfall... I just loved the fact that with Tressel it was always about The University, upholding our proud traditions, beating Michigan and coaching players to be better than they were when they got here, on and off the field... I just don't have that feeling with Meyer, I feel like its all about him, hes the star...

like I said, I may just need some time to get used to the different personality...

VestedInterest's picture

It's pretty safe to say that we all miss Coach Tressel, but what is it exactly that we miss about him so fervently? I don't believe any of us are naive enough to say it's the wins, hell we haven't had any coach that didn't have the prefix of "interim" lead the team on the field.

What we miss more than anything is the Ambassador of the university, the Senator, the guy who answers question and doesn't say anything lol. We miss the security that Tressel brought that didn't allow for next weeks bulletin board material. I believe that is patently unfair to hold any subsequent coach to that lofty standard. I don't think it's the coaches responsibility to be the ambassador of the university, Tressel did it better than anyone ever has, but I don't think that was his job. Sure, dont' be a douche nozzle, as a coach speaking on behalf of the team, but we shouldn't expect anyone to represent the university as a whole in the same manner Jim Tressel did, he was one of a kind in that regard. It is/was what his legacy will be.

btalbert25's picture

I think mostly people really miss Tressel because last year was so bad and things were out of control.  There was no stability.  A couple of years of Urban and I think a lot of the yearning for the Tressel era will be over.  Don't get me wrong, they were good times, but there are even better times to come.

NYC Buckeye's picture

Great point Vested...Tressel was much more than a football coach, he was an all around leader...

 

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Does anyone think that there are no marginal guys in this recruiting class?

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
Jdadams01's picture

Exactly. If one of these recruits gets in a game and sucks up the joint, will any one here hesitate to say that kid is "marginal"? Look at Underwood this past year against Purdue. He was a turnstyle in the first half and none of us were worried about saying he is not a tackle and looks like he'll struggle wherever they put him.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Yeah, but if coaches said to the media what they were truly thinking, sports would be a much more nasty and volatile business.

btalbert25's picture

This whole thread is what proves this fan base is never happy.  Tressel has great success and there is a sizeable fraction who complain about him non stop.  We get one of what the top 2 coaches in the game, and people caution that he may not be the same coach he used to be or they would have rather had Fickell.  He just comes off an epic run in recruiting and based off of a couple of comments in one interview that really aren't that big of a deal people are worried, concerned, or just plain don't like the guy.  Maybe all fan bases are this way, but it seems Buckeye fans are quite a self loathing bunch.  Much like the Red Sox before they broke the curse, or something.  Love our team, think they are the best, but always a large fraction of the base who have to complain about something or have some sort of irrational fear.

I wonder what the comments would've been like in Woody's day if 11W was around.  Something tells they comments wouldn't all be cheery and nostaligic like what we get when the man's name comes up now. 

btalbert25's picture

This isn't meant as an attack on anyone, just a general observation.  I get on blogs for other teams I like in other sports, and there are differences in the attitudes toward their teams.  I mean don't get me wrong, I don't like Rah Rah everything is perfect like you'll see on Kentucky Basketball blogs.  They legitmately believe their team is going to win it all every year, and believe that until they are eliminated from the tournament or until they get their NIT bid.  That is a whole differen't kind of delusional fan base. 

It just amazes me how this fan base reacts to things going on in the program.  Ohio State clinches a Rose Bowl berth and that night I hear comments on the radio and read blog posts about how Tressel should've been fired or replaced with a coach like Brian Kelley.  I'm still floored by the large portion of fans who thought it would be a better idea to keep Fickell as the head coach instead of hiring a legendary coach who wanted the job.  Every fan base has a faction that's not going to be happy or always sees the negative, it just seems this fan base's faction is disproportionately large.

NYC Buckeye's picture

I had to reply to this, because the exact opposite is what amazes me... the faction of our fans who can't stop drooling and gushing over hiring a rock star coach who has won championships, (even crushing our own team in the process) blindly supporting, not even the person, but anyone who can win games.... this strikes me as very disapointing, that all we care about is winning, Kentucky basketball does come to mind as an example... I imagine these are the same fans who booed college athletes during the Michigan State loss this past season...

It just seems foolish to me to worship Urban right away, I mean what has he done for Ohio State besides crush us in a championship game??  I don't hate the guy, I do support him and our team, but I like to think we have a little more dignity as a fanbase and will hand out our respect when earned...  

Just to be clear, I am not part of the unhappy faction...keeping Fickell as HC with the option of hiring Meyer would have been downright stupid... 

ThirdLegLouie's picture

"It just seems foolish to me to worship Urban right away, I mean what has he done for Ohio State besides crush us in a championship game??" ----- What has Urban done? Well, after the worst season of OSU football in over 100 years, he has given all of Buckeye Nation confidence that this past season was nothing more than a blip on the radar. I can't think of too many other individuals I'd be able to say that about. That's no small feat, IMO.  Also, in less than two much, he has taken a recruiting class that would have been, most likely, marginal as a whole (which is still good for the B1G!!!!) to a class that is a consensus top 5 class nationally. Once, again, that's no small feat, IMO. Although, to some, like you, that means nothing and you're here saying "What has he done except beat us in a NC game 5 years ago?" REALLY?? It seems foolish to not recognize that the OSU program should have no momentum after the season they just had.  But suprisingly, we're one of the hottest tickets in the country even after the season we just had, all because of Urban Meyer. 

 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
btalbert25's picture

EXACTLY, a season like last season, actually is the beginning of a long downward spiral for many programs.  Ohio State had to have someone huge come in to prevent that from happening.  This hire was a grand slam.  Schutt, Spence, Washington, Decker, Dodson, Williams, Armani, none of those guys end up at Ohio State if Urban isn't the coach. So, I'd say he actually physically, through his hard work, infused a ton of talent into this program, that otherwise woudln't have been here.  Also, he restored the buzz around the program, that wasn't there after one hell of a horrible year on and off the field.  For the program to take the kind of hit it did, and one year later be poised to possibly be in better shape, that's a big deal. 

Will he make mistakes along the way?  Absolutely!  All coaches do.  My comment was just the latest thought on a long line of negativity out of Buckeye nation though.  I listed some of the ones that have bothered me over the years.  To be sure I believe in complaining when there's something to complain about, like all of last season watching this team make stupid mistakes and constantly not be prepared for games, but a couple comments made in one interview, that doesn't bother me at all.  

faux_maestro's picture

I imagine these are the same fans who booed college athletes during the Michigan State loss this past season...

I have a feeling that the boos were for the pop warner complexity that was the offense, and were accordingly directed at the coaching staff.

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RBuck's picture

I wonder what the comments would've been like in Woody's day if 11W was around.  Something tells they comments wouldn't all be cheery and nostaligic like what we get when the man's name comes up now.

 

Exactly. Having being around in the 50's I can tell you that there were as many people in C-bus that hated Woody as those who loved him.

 

 

 

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Paul's picture

Relax and enjoy the ride. Lighten up folks. Meyer hates to lose and aftera season to implement the gameplan, It'll be an exciting 4 or 5 years in Columbus!

There are winners and there are losers, and then there are "THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY"

FOOTBALL BUCKEYES!

ysuosu1's picture

Now that I have read thru these comments...yes I think the best guys should be on the field...yes I like UFM aggressiveness. Yes I went to YSU and love Tressel and hated when he was so nebulous all the time. What I'm saying is I don't like him treating players that haven't even played for him this way in PUBLIC!! There are other ways to kick their butt and bring their ego down other than saying things about them in public. He looks like a douche! Old school motivational style...outdated and it doesn't work with most. Do I think they should all get a trophy, NO...but at least give them a chance. Kick their butt inside the program and if they don't work out, then he can say...we had some marginal guys, not everyone makes it...that's the way it goes...I want the best. I also said I want the UFM here. I just don't happen to like these types of comments from him. It's just my opinion...that's it.

LP

btalbert25's picture

I can appreciate that.  I also think, though, that anything Urban says in the public may just be the tip of the iceberg for the brutal honesty he has for the players in person.  I don't think he's saying any of this stuff as a kick in the ass for a particular player.  I think he's saying it publicly because it's stuff he's been saying to the players individually or when he addresses the team.  While I don't think it's a huge deal what he said, I can agree if he made those statements just out of the blue during an interview that maybe it would rub some of the recruits and players the wrong way.  I don't believe, however, this was the first time he's made comments like this.

 

ThirdLegLouie's picture

^THIS.

 

I don't see Urban's comments as a motivational tactic-- I see them just as an honest answer. There ARE marginal guys in this class. If guys on the team get motivated to try and prove him wrong, so be it. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

No problem with his comments. Someone mentioned above something I had echoed several months back: Tat-gate happened because a group of players thought they were bigger than the program. Urban is reassuring every recruit and player that no matter how good they are, they will never be bigger than Ohio State and it's seven national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and its large financially dedicated alumni base. Even if one of these guys wins a Hesiman, they'll still need to win another just to be on par with one of our greatest (and that man, Archie, has never considered himself bigger than the program or university, as exemplified by his tireless fundraising efforts and dedication to the university).

When Meyer came to Florida, they had one national championship (which they backed into in '96 after OSU lost to Michigan... probably should have been a split title that year) and two Heisman winners. They played in a stadium that was averaging 96% capacity in 2002 (just three years before Meyer's first year), which would have put them 7th in the Big Ten in percentage capacity, and 5th in the SEC that year. He inherited players from Coddler-in-Chief Ron Zook, and it's easy to see how some of these guys felt they were bigger than Florida. Urban is just making sure everyone knows their place.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Seriously. In any class you are going to have guys who don't make the cut. When a new coach takes over for an old regime there will be more of that. Meyer isnt going to be in love with every single guy in his class, nor should he be. What he will do, like any good coach, is make these kids work for his 'affection'. If Meyer doesn't like a kid, that kid has two options-quit or work his tail off so Meyer likes him\plays him.

Get offended about something else people. Our head coach isn't the warm, cuddly guy we are used to seeing. Tressel won a lot of games and did it a different way Meyer will. Meyer is more cold-calculating CEO than father figure. I don't care how he goes about winning, but he's going to do it by the bucket load.

 

He's Urban !@#$@#$ Meyer. Let's get used to it and enjoy the show.

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Doc's picture

I just finished watching this video and I have goosebumps all over.  IMHO he made no missteps.  He gets this job, and he is excited and ready to perform.  It is time to man up and be Buckeyes, ALL of us.

"Say my name."

ThirdLegLouie's picture

I agree Doc, thought he handled himself very well.

Love the detail he used in talking about the UM games he was a part of. The W in '87 for Bruce's last game was one of the greatest Buckeye wins in The Game of my lifetime. Urban was there for that-- he gets the rivalry, folks. 

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

 
smith5568's picture

Feel that his comments are great as a motivational tool. But say it to the team and to the team only, no need to say it to anyone outside of the locker room. 

highwire's picture

This is my first post, even though I have been lurking for roughly six months. I just wanted to say that this is the type of behavior that can give our fanbase a bad rep. We have just made a coaching hire that every other program in the conferece (whether they state it or not) is envious of. But, instead of embracing it as such and displaying the optimism that we should, we dissect each and every detail relating. If I had to guess, I would say that this response is most likely a type of culture shock resulting from the drastic and abrupt change of ways. Jim Tressel was fantastic for the Buckeyes, but I can't help but believe that the ceiling has been raised. The players must change mentally, and so should we. Before the scandal, we saw ourselves as  family friendly and pure...and we still are. But, the word relentless must now be added. Therefore, that mindset must also be adopted. Sometimes, change is good.

Poison nuts's picture

I've just read every comment on this thread. I was bored. I've posted on it a few times earlier as well. I've read plenty of other threads that are filled with negativety where I've thought to myself that we suck as a fanbase as a whole. This particular thread doesn't seem that way though. Just a bunch of people giving their views on a subject...some see it one way others see it another. On the whole it seems pretty easy going. I for instance thought Coachs' comments might be a bit devisive. Others think it was fine, others still think they should not have been said at all. Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like healthy debate amongst a bunch of Buckeye nerds who all love the same thing. Much rather have that than name calling, digital fighting, or maybe even worse - everyone in complete agreement with everything the staff or team does without any critical thought. These little threads exist so people can give their opinion even if those opinions differ from others. Without that - it would be a pretty boring site.

One more thing, I love JT. Always will. But I am thrilled about what's happening now and can't wait for the new brand of football that's coming our way. It's a new era and it looks like it's going to be a good one.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Bucksnut13's picture

Who gives a rats ass about the recruiting thing. The best part was the final ten seconds. Thats exactly why I love this guy.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog

JakeBuckeye's picture

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Urban has his flaws. A few of them. I see more and more of you are at the very least willing to state that he's not been perfect so far as our head coach or as a head coach in general where ever he has been. For some of you, whatever Father Urban does will forever be an act of God. That's how we were with Tressel. Sheesh, can't you remember how that turned out for us?

ThirdLegLouie's picture

I don't know about that whole "he's not been perfect...as a head coach in general where ever he has been" thing. I think having an undefeated season is perfect for a coach. I think winning a National Championship is perfect for a coach. 

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btalbert25's picture

I don't know, I haven't really seen anyone say he's perfect of be unreasonable with their expectations at this point.  So far, he's done everything pretty much right as a buckeye coach.  He's talked about it being a dream job, he clearly "gets it" when it comes to the game, he's talked about how hard his kids will work(early returns from players support that) and he's won everyone over by talking about no redshirts, he wants guys that can play right now.  So far, he's done just about everything right.  Oh yeah, he's been ruthless in recruiting already too!  To be sure when it comes time to play some games, he's going to eff up  because no coach is pefect. 

There are people looking at every word that is being said so they can find something to complain about and I don't get it.  There are others to be sure who just don't care much for his comments and that's fine too.  At any rate, just seems like a lot of people are complaining about people being excited for the Meyer era and it just doesn't make sense.  It's a good time to be excited . I've not seen where anyone has said Meyer is perfect. 

At the same time, I never really saw where people said Tressel was perfect.  I defended Tressel a lot because people didn't like him or his style.  There were people, not a small minority, that didn't care for Tressel at all. I defended his results, and the man until I didn't think he should be defended anymore.  Now that he's gone it's taboo to talk about his lackluster teams and disregard(not just one incident) for NCAA rules(whether you think they are dumb or not).  

It's like your damned for being excited about the Urban Meyer era, damned if you talk about the negatives of JT, and just damned for being happy about the future of this program.  It's a time right now to be positive and excited for the future.  We'll have plenty of time when the team looks like crap against an inferior team to be negative.  What at this point do we have to be negative for, and why should we be picking over every comment in every interview to find that negativity?  

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Welcome to the new era of OSU football.  I love the attitude.  Urban may not need to go out into the media and say something like this, but it's not like he's singling anyone out in particular.  It's all about motivation.  It's about making each player hungry, and wanting to go up from marginal.  Nothing is going to be given like some things seemed to be under the previous regime.  This is going to have a huge effect on the field.

Our Buckeyes have had too many games in the past where they were not hungry.  Take the last couple of trips to the "House of Horrors" Ross-Ade Stadium.  House of Horrors?  Really?  Tough place to play?  I'm sorry, there's nothing intimidating about a stadium that isn't even sold out.  There's nothing intimidating about any Purdue team that has been fielded since Drew Brees was their QB.  Even though Purdont's talent and team is far inferior to our's, they beat us in Ross-Ade those two times because they were hungrier.  With this new attitude, we may never lose in that stadium again, at least while Urban is in charge.  The '06 MNC trophy would be in our trophy case with this attitude. 

Some of you that aren't happy with these comments will be happy once we're reaping the benefits of extra hard work, extra motivation, and anything else that may come of this while our Buckeyes are kicking ass and taking names.

Class of 2010.

Doc's picture

Very well said.  We all got soft over the last few years.  Tress, the coaches, the players, the administration, and US.  It is now time to sack up and get hungry again.  Urban is not a cute and cuddly type coach, he is going to be brutally honest with us.  Play balls out for 4-6 second intervals and you'll be good.  Be lazy and entitled and you won't play much, or at all.  We have to get used to the change in vocab.  It's going to be a little "saltier" than the Senators.

 

We have to stop making mountains out of mole hills. 

"Say my name."