PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
True, yes. Inappropriate,probably.
Pretty much this. I'm a bit annoyed he cares this much about being in the spotlight, though.
He may have Gee'd himself with this statement on the record.
I'm sure he's going to get beat up on here for these comments, as any time the kid opens his mouth he does, but he's absolutely right. If he ran the ball 30 times a game he would have unbelieveable numbers. I also like that he points out the one stat that matters is 30-4. I think this is just the jolt he needs. He's got a chip on his shoulder and I would be surprised if we don't see him play with a lot of intensity now.
Maybe if he opened his mouth and said something with character he wouldn't get blasted. Like when he takes the blame for playing a bad game and gives his team all the credit, even when he plays well. That's the stuff that I want to hear from the self proclaimed "leader" of this football team. It's like he's two people! But this version, y'know -- the being a cocky douchebag version, doesn't make any sense to me. I can understand why he feels this way, but it sounds like anger/hurt feelings talking. I just wish he would remember to be humble on a more consistent basis.
With all that being typed, I'm not sure TP would last running the ball that much. He's fast has a great stiff arm and he outruns a lot of angles but for some reason I can't seem to remember him putting the moves on anyone recently, at least not like some of the players above.
To be clear I really like TP. I own one jersey, a scarlet #2 that I only wear for the big games because of him. I lost my voice screaming at the TV for him to to take over the Wisconsin game. I know he has it in him, I think we all do. I just hope it all comes together for this kid.
You don't remember him putting the moves on anyone because he hasn't ran the ball that much. In fact he is ran it HALF as much as Cam Newton. Go watch a highlight film of him, he jukes people out. He did it in the scUM game. I can't even count how many times he's side-stepped a rushing defender to make a pass down the field or take off for a first down. If I was him I'd be saying the same stuff. We weren't there for the interview, the article said it was a hyperbole, so he could have been saying it jokingly. I'm with TP on this one. There are only 3 times out of 24 that a Big Ten team can say they beat a TP lead Buckeye team. Him not being an all conference performer and Tressel never winning the Big Ten COY award are both shams.
He's just frustrated at the hype these other guys get while he's busy working on becoming a pro-style qb and doing what really matters -- winning games. I don't think this is anything to get worked up about; he's not the only one who thinks its ridiculous that he didn't make either of the All-Big Ten teams.
I'll stay out of this one.
TP is a leader, his team and coaches love him, he's never been considered a cancer, he's never been in Tressel's dog house, and more importantly he plays with class. You never see him showing up other teams, something Tebow made a career of. He doesn't show imature behavior on the field either like Jumping up into the stands after a big play and acting a fool a la Cam Newton. Other players at other programs have said things in the media proclaiming their own greatness or even giving bulletain board material to other teams, and what happens? The fan bases back and love the kid even more. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, it's more the culture of the fan base than it is the player.
We applaud Troy(rightfully so) for being the very best leader we've seen. Yet, he found himself in trouble and in the Doghouse a couple of times. That is someplace Pryor has never been. I've never seen a group of people have such a problem with one player because he says a few things that people regard as arrogant, stupid, entitled, or whatever. Perhaps if he were putting up Cam Newton numbers no one would care, which lends to the hippocracy even more. For whatever reason, even before the kid stepped foot on campus, there are those in the ranks of Buckeye fans who have always had a problem with him.
This is complete bullshit. HE ASKED FOR THE (PRO) SYSTEM HE'S CURRENTLY IN BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BECOME A PEYTON MANNING OR SOMETHING (HE'S NOT NOR EVER WILL BE). He could've gone to Michigan or Oregon, but he game to OSU and Tressel bc he said he wanted to learn how to be a real qb (sarcasm). Now if he had come to OSU and let Tressel run a zone-read offense ala Michigan/Auburn/Florida/Oregon, we'd be undefeated and playing for our second consecutive title.
Dude, chill out. He's more denigrating their accomplishments than complaining about our system. As he pointed out -- who's got all the wins? The guy feels like he did a great job this year (he did) and he feels completely dissed by the exclusion from the All-Big Ten teams (he should, it's some b.s.).
To me, it looks more like a response to all the people who freak out about how he should be contending for the Heisman, having been the top-ranked recruit his year, and it's likely those same people who excluded him from the All-Big Ten teams for failing to live up to the hype. He's just saying that he could be that guy, but, as you point out, he's working on becoming the kind of QB who could play in the pros, and there are growing pains associated with that.
No, it's bullshit for him to say such things bc he's done it to himself. He wanted a pro offense, well, this is how well you will perform in it, he did as well as his talents wil ever allow. He would dominate in a zone-read scheme, and if he had wanted to dominate and really utilize all of his talents (sky's the limit) he should've either gone somewhere else, or not demanded Tress use him in a pro-offense.
The odds are better that the college zone-read qbs (of whom there are more and more every year) will change the NFL than for them to change for the NFL.
He never said that he wished he'd gone to a school with that offense. Ever. Now calm down.
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I know that. I wish we'd have adopted an offense that suits his talents!
I think you're missing the point of what Pryor and the other commenters are saying. His comment is not a "I wish I could show you what I can do" thing, it's a "I wish you could see what I'm showing you" thing.
He didn't want "an offense that suits his talents," he wanted an offense that would improve his talents and make him into a viable NFL QB, like Troy Smith. His comment is not a complaint about the system he's in; it's a complaint about being downgraded because he didn't take the easy path to college glory/NFL bust that he could have. Instead, he challenged himself, he's succeeding, and he still gets sh*t on.
I'd be p***ed too.
Finally some one gets where he is coming from. Listen to the coaches, they will tell you TP is anything but selfish!
Yep. Well put.
He didn't want "an offense that suits his talents," he wanted an offense that would improve his talents and make him into a viable NFL QB, like Troy Smith.'
This is exactly what pisses me off. What the hell!?! As an Ohio State fan I don't find any moral victories in knowing that our most heralded recruit of the decade has come to OSU merely to hone his future NFL abilities rather than win us games and national titles. Bc, as he says, if we ran an offense that suited his talents, he'd dominate, so what the hell did you come to us to do?
No, 11-1 isn't good enough with the talent on this team. He's 30 something and 4. Great. Even this year he admitted that the defense has bailed him out of games. That 30 something and 4 is not entirely indicative of his contributions...Hell, Boeckman won 11 in a season.
Really Kurt? The only reason players go to big time colleges is because they have a better chance at going to the NFL from there than say, Toledo. If they only wanted to win games they would go to FCS teams.
You sound really spoiled.
How do you think we got Pryor? In the world you are imagining, in which we ran a college-style offense with a running QB, Pryor would be at Penn State, because he wanted to be an NFL QB one day.
Tressel is doing the thing that any responsible coach at an NFL-prep type program would - preparing them for the NFL. Yes, we want him to win games, but is that one or two extra wins a year really worth these guys' futures? As much as I love national championships, I would say no, especially since they are here as a result of being told they'd be prepared for the pros. We are already asking them to entertain millions of us basically for free -- it's not reasonable to demand that they sacrifice their futures because we want to be slightly more entertained.
Maybe you'd prefer guys who just want to win in college, no matter the cost to their futures, or are too blind to see the cost, and that's fine -- they're out there, playing for other programs, it wouldn't be much of a difference if our program did that, too, but I prefer a coach who's there for the players, not just the fans and the boosters, and who is looking out for their futures even when those players may be too young and foolish to do it themselves.
EDIT: I mean the players who want to win in college, later career consequences be damned. It doesn't seem like we have many guys like that, but Tebow, and Urban Meyer's failure to teach him to throw, springs to mind, as does every other spread offense QB in the last several years who's been a huge bust in the pros.
But making it to the next level is why a lot of guys pick their school. I think part of the reason that a guy like Trey DePriest picks Alabama over OSU is the NFL pedigree of the coaching staff. Similarly, Pryor didn't want to go to a school where your offense is no-huddle and you get your plays from one of 4 giant posterboards. Hmmmm.... will it be straight draw, zone read, quick slant, or deep pass supreme #3 with special sauce? Even without Vince Young flailing after coming out of a similar system, what are the pro prospects of Kaeprnick, Newton, & Denard? Even Tebow, 1st round or not, is still viewed as a project. Pryor's draft prospects may not be better than those guys when he's done, but at least he's coming from a system that makes him more NFL-ready instead of relying on raw talent.
Also, saying that Boeckman won 11 games, given the schedule in 2007 and the fact that he had Beanie is like saying that Bellisari won 8 games in 2000.
Seems like the article was generally positive. I don't know why there's so much buzz about TP's comments. But then again I've always thought political correctness was for losers.
He didn't say anything that was politically incorrect, he is saying things that portray him as a cocky douchebag. I'm not sure he's as good a runner as most of those on that list. He's fast and strong but I don't think he has the moves nor do I think he could survive the beatings that come with running like that. I prefer my "leaders" to act humble. There is nothing humble about what he said.
Yeah umm, the only thing he has done wrong is not win 5 Heisman and 6 MNC's yet. Has he lived up to the hype? Somewhat. Has he shrunk at times? Yes. Shined in others? Yes. Said it a few days ago, he should've been at least 2nd team Big Ten; 30-4 and two of those loses where VERY winable (Texas and Penn State 2 yrs ago). Dude isn't pc, but at least he isn't going to bring the program down.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Actually, the Texas game isn't accounted for when talking about TP's record as a starter. Boeckman started that game.
You are right; was thinking that as I typed. USC was winnable...
Even so, USC 2009 was a very winnable game that was lost by Tressel's small nutsack when he didn't want to have his 6'6 QB do a sneak from the 1 and instead took 3 points.
Purdue was lost due pretty much on Pryor.
Penn State they just played a perfect game and Pryor choked a bit.
Wisconsin was just a whoopin.
Not to mention how much he has improved since he first stepped on campus.
I think if you read the article it's fair and I am not sure that his assessment is that far off. Wasn't there a statistic earlier this season that of all rushers in the Big Ten in the past 2 seasons or so he's had more yards on third down carries than anyone? That speaks to his talent as a runner.
While I appreciate the desire to learn and run a pro offense part of me is frustrated that Tressel and Co. don't do more to expose defensive weaknesses with Pryor's legs. I think it would do even more to open up the offense.
Round on the ends and hi in the middle.
Not just the Big Ten, in the entire country.
I swear most people didn't read the whole article. He wasn't knocking the offense or anyones deeds. He merely was pointing out that his numbers would of been higher in those systems. However, thanks to the media and their need for sales they promoted a soundbite that made him sound like a prima donna. Ten minute interview edited to a 15 second sound bite. Check
If I was TP I would give the same speech to the media week after week and eliminate all this crap. "They were tough... I need to improve....I love my team...glory to god...etc... Tress would be considered colorful after my robotic interviews.
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