The SOS Argument

WC Buckeye's picture
October 21, 2013 at 3:02p
19 Comments

I was reading through the blogs this morning, and when I saw all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the BCS and its unfairness (which I openly participate in, as well), I thought I'd look at the perception of the SOS or lack thereof for the 4 teams at the top. I looked at the records for everyone they've played and who they've got left, and here's what I see - the SOS for the B1G sucks (which we knew and will hear ad nauseum for the rest of the season), for the ACC its looking pretty good, and it is reasonably strong for the SEC and Pac12.

Now, that said, of course the remaining teams on all 4 teams' schedules could be relatively weaker or stronger as the season winds down, but at the end of the day, it appears likely that: the Alabama juggernaut is susceptible to a loss, either against a remaining scheduled opponent or in the SEC CG; Oregon is setting itself up for its usual late season derpishness; and Florida State and Ohio State are the two most likely teams to finish undefeated (although they could be beaten by Miami or lose in the ACC CG).

Net: if we keep winning and the odds play out, we should be fine. Let's continue to enjoy this great time in OSU's football history and debate this great game.

Team Opponent W L C/S
Alabama VA Tech 6 1 C
  TX A&M 5 2 C
  Colo St. 3 4 C
  Ole Miss 4 3 C
  GA St 0 7 C
  KY 1 5 C
  Arkansas 3 5 C
  Tenn 4 3 S
  LSU 6 2 S
  Miss St. 3 3 S
  Chattanooga 5 2 S
  Auburn 6 1 S
    46 38  
Florida St Pitt 4 2 C
  Nevada 3 4 C
  Bethune-Cookman 6 1 C
  BC 5 3 C
  Maryland 3 2 C
  Clemson 6 1 C
  NC State 3 3 S
  Miami 6 0 S
  Wake Forest 4 3 S
  Syracuse 3 4 S
  Idaho 1 6 S
  Florida 4 3 S
    48 32  
Oregon Nicholls St 4 3

C

  Virginia 2 5 C
  Tenn 4 3 C
  Cal 1 6 C
  Colo 3 3 C
  Wash. 4 3 C
  Wash. St. 4 4 C
  UCLA 5 1 S
  Stanford 6 1 S
  Utah 4 3 S
  Arizona 4 2 S
  Oregon St. 6 1 S
    47 35  
Ohio St Buffalo 5 2 C
  San Diego St 3 3 C
  Cal 1 6 C
  FAMU 2 5 C
  Wisconsin 5 2 C
  Northwestern 4 3 C
  Iowa 4 3 C
  Penn St 4 2 S
  Purdue 1 6 S
  Illinois 3 3 S
  Indiana 3 4 S
  TTUN 6 1 S
   41 40  

 

Comments

Phoenix824's picture

You forgot to add Purdue into your schedule but you gave their record to Penn State.   Though I do believe you have both in your total wins/losses at the bottom.

RedStorm45's picture

Not included in totals.

WC Buckeye's picture

Thanks, you're right - I will fix it now!

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3cent's picture

HOLY CRAP! When you break it down that way our schedule does suck and the B1G is weak...lol

gobucks96's picture

So, if Alabama isn't up by 30 at home vs Tennessee this weekend, shouldn't oregon jump them??????

RedStorm45's picture

Va Tech (on Bama's schedule) is 6-1, not 6-4.

WC Buckeye's picture

Thanks. Fixed. That's what I get for trying to bang this in before heading out for lunch!

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bigDbuck's picture

Isn't FSU playing at Florida at EOY?

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WC Buckeye's picture

They certainly are - thanks, I will fix it.

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Dublin68's picture

Florida Gators (on FSU's schedule) is 4-3, not 4-4.
Great Stat, thanks for the post

WC Buckeye's picture

Thanks, Dublin. Fixed.

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ChazBuckeye's picture

This is what I'm talking about.  At this moment, tB1G isn't as bad as many are insinuating as far as records are concerned at this point in the season (many at ESPN and national media).  It's all about how OSU finishes as well as the B1G.  I always remember what one of my favorite head coaches I've ever had used to say in situations like this, "The cream rises to the top gentlemen."  I have to go with this statement when considering OSU and the B1G conference this year (at least I hope;-)  

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WC Buckeye's picture

I agree! At this point in the season, there are 3 B1G bowl-eligible teams (Ohio St, Mich. St., and TTUN), 3 "bowl likely" teams (Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin), and 2 more "possible" bowl teams (Iowa and Northwestern). PSU is out by default and having a decent season, and even Illinois (currently 3-3 with PSU, Indiana, and NW as winnable games) and Indiana (less likely at 3-4 with a tough schedule ahead) could creep in to bowl conversations.
I am of the opinion that the bowl selection committees take slightly more highly ranked SEC teams and try to match them up with the lower tier of the B1G whenever they can, and because of that I believe that our 6-6 teams should just stay home, but that's just me.

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Catch 5's picture

Not really.  The bowls have agreements to take certain teams relevant to how they finish in the league.  The SEC and B10 are paired in 3 bowls:
Cap 1:  SEC #2 vs B10 #2
Outback: SEC #4 vs B10 #3
Gator: SEc #6 vs B10 #4
In fact, in every SEC bowl tie-in they are pitted against a team with a higher conference ranking (except the Cap1 where they are even).

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WC Buckeye's picture

I retract that - you're right. However, not considering the BCS NCG with 2 SEC teams (2012), where every SEC got shifted down one spot, then, the B1G REALLY DOES SUCK. Since 1994, the results stack up like this:
           Cap1    Outback   Gator*
            SEC        SEC       SEC
L           10           10          1
W           9             9          1
* tie in didn't start until 2011
This means, essentially that with the exception of the Capital One, where it's been a straight up #2 vs #2 matchup (and virtually dead even), the B1G #3 team has been at par with the #4 SEC team, and while the data set is small, our #4 is roughly at par with the SEC #6 team.
Of course we could say that there is parity between the two conferences from the #2 to #6 slots and call it a day, but that wouldn't fit with the "SEC DOMINATES" narrative. :)

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BuckeyeB9B82501's picture

The only point I want to say is ......Every year Bama plays 2 FCS schools (1 for sure and sometimes if not FCS it's 1 FBS team that's ranked 118 or so on) 1 early and 1 late. The late one is only to help their "image". They can look good beating up on someone late, score wise. And some voters, not all, but some only look at scores. They see Bama with a big lopsided victory and say"man they are really good!" That's what I see every year, tho I and saying this about JUST Bama b/c that's how Bama schedules. But 2 FCS schools every year????? This year it's Ga St and Chattanooga. What would the national media and other haters of TOSU say if Ohio State would play William & Mary of the blind 2 times every year? They would rip us to death for that. But not Bama

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WC Buckeye's picture

That does seem to come up every season, doesn't it? We know that there is a storyline there, but you'll never hear anyone in the national media talking about it.

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Catch 5's picture

I'm splitting hairs to a degree, but I don't think Bama has ever played 2 FCS teams in the same year.  Ga St is FBS now - though your point still applies as they are worse than many FCS teams.
That said, would it really make a difference if they scheduled Duke instead?  Or Memphis?  I hate those FCS games as much as anybody, but it really doesn't matter.  Bama isn't going to schedule a tough OOC game late in the year, so whoever they put in that slot is going to be a sure win.  And I don't think there are many out there who will be overly impressed by a win over Chattanooga any more than they already have been.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

raki's picture

CAL. FAMU and Purdue are really hurting us. If cal can win some more games at the end  or cause an upset or two that would be nice. Purdue and FAMU and just really really bad.