Miller vs Wisconsin

thePhilipJFry's picture
November 2, 2011 at 11:23a
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Completely ripped off from MGoBrian.

He explains his terms here http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/hennechart-legend.html

  dead on catchable inaccurate bad read throwaway batted pressure
att 2 7 2 1 0 0 0
comp 1 6 0 0 0 0 0
yds 40 49 0 0 0 0 0
td 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
int 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

The first and last attempt of the night both get dead on designation.  On his first attempt of the night Miller throws 43 yards down field and hits Brown in the facemask.  On his last attempt of the night he throws late over the middle across his body while sprinting right.  If the middle of the cover three hadn't rushed up field due to the threat of Miller running the football the previous description would no doubt be filed under bad read.  In our reality the pass is out of the reach of the two defenders still deep in the Wisconsin secondary and finds Devin Smith who never stopped his route.

The bad read is a 3rd and 11 play at the end of the third quarter where Miller either doesn't see the mlb, or doesn't think the mlb can reach the pass, either way he wrong.

The first inaccurate pass is a 3rd and 5 in the second quarter when Miller overthrows Brown going down the right sideline.  A dead on throw here could have been a touchdown.  The second is Miller trying to force a ball into Stoneburner on 3rd and goal just before the second field goal.

Runs

  designed scramble sack knee sneak
att 14 2 3 0 0
yds 88 16 -5 0 0
td 2 0 0 0 0
fumbles 0 0 0 0 0

The offensive line played an absolutely outstanding game against Wisconsin.  All 3 sacks were outside the pocket chance to the throw the ball away variety.  Miller had a 14 yard scramble on a play where the offensive line and running backs picked up a 7 man rush.   And Miller picked up more than 6 yards per carry on designed running plays. 

Receivers

  comp targets yards td drops yac
Stoneburner 0 3 0 0 1 0
Boren 1 1 7 0 0 3
Brown 4 6 34 0 1 3
Devin Smith 1 1 40 1 0 0
Hall 1 1 8 0 0 4

Stoneburner dropped a first down on a 3rd and 12 and Brown had the drop on the first pass of the night.

This next table is similar to what I think mgobrian is doing with his receiving chart but I am unable to find a link to his explanations so mine will have to do.  The first digit in the grade is from the receiver’s point of view, 4 easy to 1 impossible.  The second digit indicates the presence of the defender (1 there, 0 not there) at the time the ball hits the receiver’s hands.  When I say there, I mean close contact.


Therefore:
11  Bad pass, tight coverage.
10  Bad pass, no defender to stop it
21  Really tough ball to catch and in tight coverage.  A catch on this means the receiver is saving his qb.
20  Really tough ball to catch, no coverage.
31  Ball outside the strike zone, tight coverage

30  Ball outside the strike zone, no coverage

41  Ball on the money, tight coverage
40  Ball on the money, no coverage

 

  11 10 21 20 31 30 41 40
att 1 0 0 1 1 2 4 2
comp 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 2
yds 0 0 0 0 0 21 53 15
td 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
int 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

A lot of throwing to wide receivers in tight coverage, which explains the low yardage after catch.


For the receivers this is catches/opportunities

  11 10 21 20 31 30 41 40
Stoneburner 0/1       0/1      
Boren               1/1
Brown       0/1   2/2 2/3  
Devin Smith             1/1  
Hall               1/1

 

Comments

Maestro's picture

Thanks Philip

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Maestro's picture

The drops have to stop.  Especially to Stoney.  Sometimes he seems to get lazy with his hands.  The doink off of Brown's facemask was bad, but he made up for it.  I think D Smith is a better option on deep throws and Brown is best used as the short receiver.  Hope they all continue to grow together.

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thePhilipJFry's picture

When Ohio State is throwing so infrequently the drops are especially harmful.  Devin Smith is quickly becoming a favorite of mine.  0 targets all game and he is running his full route on the opposite side of the field from where Miller escaped the pocket.

M tots's picture

I agree about Devin Smith.  When he has been in the game, all the kid has done is made plays (4 TD's and team leading 227 yards).  But as of late, for some reason or another, he hasn't seen much PT.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was in at all against Wisconsin other than on our last possession.  He and Braxton seem to have great chemistry.  It makes me wonder what's going on

Maestro's picture

He was in the game earlier, he just wasn't targeted by Miller.  He is playing a fair amount (as far as I can tell he starts), but with the passing offense consisting of Stoney and Brown only it's hard to tell that he is actually on the field.

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M tots's picture

He certainly is not starting. Last week was the first week in awhile he even appeared in the 2-deep (2nd behind Fields). I can't seem to find the article right now, but when I do I will post it. In it, Smith says he was unsure how many snaps he played vs Wiscy but estimated it was around 4.

Maestro's picture

He was definitely in on Boom's long run at the beginning of the 2nd half.  Just by watching game highlights he can be seen making blocks on a few plays.  He was in on Miller's 13 yards scramble in the 1st quarter.  Fields is listed as the starter, but I think we will see more of Smith than Fields in 2 WR sets in the near future.  

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Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Love these.  I'm very glad you take the time to put this together.  It is really appreciated by this reader.  

If I understand this correctly you are giving his last throw of the night a dead on designation, correct?  Would that be the touchdown he threw to Smith to give us the go ahead and game winning score?  Wasn't that pass really, really high?  Not too high for the receiver but just lobbed up in the air for a long time?  That's what I've thought when I've seen replays.  Being in 28 A I just held my breath and prayed to Odin and Crom that he didn't drop it as the pass seemed to get stuck in the air for roughly 2 lifetimes.

In your opinion do you think a part of the passing woes are due to the reiceivers not getting open?  Looks like a majority of our passes are thrown into tight coverages if I'm reading this correctly.

Below I cannot find what 30 is?  Looks like this is about 20% or so of that games passing success.

Therefore:
11  Bad pass, tight coverage.
10  Bad pass, no defender to stop it
21  Really tough ball to catch and in tight coverage.  A catch on this means the receiver is saving his qb.
20  Really tough ball to catch, no coverage.
31  Ball outside the strike zone, tight coverage

41  Ball on the money, tight coverage
40  Ball on the money, no coverage

   11  10  21  20  31  30  41  40
att  1  0  0  1  1  2  4  2
comp  0  0  0  0  0  2  3  2
yds  0  0  0  0  0  21  53  15
td  0  0  0  0  0  0  1  0
int  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
A lot of throwing to wide receivers in tight coverage, which explains the low yardage after catch.

For the receivers this is catches/opportunities

   11  10  21  20  31  30  41  40
Stoneburner  0/1           0/1        
Boren                       1/1
Brown           0/1     2/2  2/3  
Devin Smith                    1/1  
Hall                       1/1
 

thePhilipJFry's picture

Yeah, the ball was in the air a while, I'm giving Braxton the benefit of the doubt that he saw the back line of Wisconsin's cover 3 flying to the line of scrimmage after he broke the pocket, in particular the deep middle.  Most of what gives the pass a dead on grade in my eyes was Miller's ability to avoid the rush, stay behind the line of scrimmage, and to get the ball over the top of the defense 40 yards down field while on the run.

per mgoBrian:

DO: "Dead on." Generally reserved for impressive throws above and beyond the call of duty.

I'm calling that throw above and beyond the call of duty.  It wasn't a hail mary.  Miller was purposely avoiding throwing at the defense and was instead attempting to hit one specific wide receiver.  If it doesn't work, it looks horrible and everybody is sad.  It worked, let's all be happy for a week.

sorry about the missing 30 definition, I will edit it back in.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I think I heard Miller on the post game interview on the Fan discussing that he saw the safety come up and knew where Smith would be.  So I could see your logic there.  And that throw was absolutely above the call of duty.