Undefeated Tough Goal, But Not Impossible

TennesseeBuckeye's picture
August 21, 2013 at 9:04p
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Mr Park,

You are the Dean of The Ohio State University. There is the possibility something could occur that hasn't happened since 1947-48. A team goes undefeated,untied in the Big Ten.
The last time OSU went undefeated in the Big Ten was 1954-55, but in 1955 they had 2 out of conference loses. Buckeyes have never gone back to back undefeated untied in their history, closest was 1916-1917, a out of conference tie with Auburn stopped it. In the Big Ten Michigan in 1991-92 had 3 ties in 1992, 2 of which were in conference. So they went undefeated back to back but not undefeated untied. MSU went undefeated and untied in the Big Ten 1965-1966, but a out of conference loss in 1965 and a out of conference tie 1966 stopped them from back to back perfect seasons. Tom Harmon may have won the Heisman in 1940, but it was Minnesota who went back to back undefeated untied in 1940-41 in all games. Michigan also did it in 1901-1902. If Ohio State wants to play in the National Championship game they are most certainly going to have to go undefeated in 2013, and it hasn't happened since 1947-48, not impossible but very difficult, it's not the rivalry games that get you it's usually a trap game. Michigan, Penn State and Illinois are rivalry games. Wisconsin has a recent history as a proven winner. Ohio State's trap games are usually Michigan State ('72, '74, '98) and Purdue. Northwestern could be but they are ranked and everybody is talking about them.  We don't play MSU (maybe in B10 Championship), but we do get Purdue where we have lost the last two times 3 of 4 and 4 of 6. Purdue was Bruce's Wisconsin, Cooper's Illinois, thorn in the side. I think Iowa will be undefeated when we play them them in fact everybody should have a winning record if not undefeated when we play them up to Purdue, it depends on Iowa.
  But the reason I write is because of the 10 years war, Michigans dominance over Ohio State in the 90's and Ohio States dominance over Michigan in the 2000's, that their must have been a back to back undefeated season somewhere in there. And there were some close ones, but 1947-48 was the last time it happened. Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it. It's been 65 years since it happened and 4 times prior:

Michigan   1947-48 (10-0-0), (10-0-0)
Minnesota 1940-41 (8-0-0), (8-0-0)
Minnesota 1934-35 (8-0-0), (8-0-0)
Iowa          1921-22 (7-0-0), (7-0-0)
Michigan   1901-02 (11-0-0), (11-0-0)

Ohio State undefeated, untied back to back seasons:

1954 (7-0-0, 10-0-0) 1955 (6-0-0, 7-2-0)
1916 (4-0-0, 7-0-0), 1917 (4-0-0, 8-0-1))

Going back to back undefeated is not impossible, as evidenced by the 5 teams above. Urban Meyer always improves his 2nd year. While he can't improve his winning record, he has a chance to improve on what previous  Ohio State teams have done, and do what no Ohio State coach has done, lead a team to back to back undefeated seasons.

In Him,
Ron Miller
Germantown, TN 38139
[email protected]

               "Holy, holy, holy
       is the Lord God Almighty,
who was, and is, and is to come." Revelation 4:8

He was gracious to reply and in his reply:

Hi Ron,

This is a great piece of work, and I really appreciate you sending it to me.  The Michigan seasons of 1947 and 1948 were especially remarkable in that there was a change in head coaches between the two seasons.  Fritz Chrisler coached the 1947 team, and Bennie Oosterbaan took over as head coach in 1948.  I also appreciate your Revelation verse 4:8.

Again, Ron, thank you for your kindness in sending this to me.

Best wishes,

Jack
8-11-13

Comments

ohiowhitesnake's picture

Awesome read! Thanks for sharing...go bucks!

Hovenaut's picture

Competition is a great thing, as it can bring out the best in us. For a team sport so history-rich, so demanding as football, achieving new heights is quite a goal and not one to be taken lightly.

It's clearly going to take a(nother) special season for Ohio State to push the winning streak to 26, something none of us could have imagined ever happening this time last year. But it's an exciting, relevant possibility now with the people involved with the program.

Very cool to hear from Jack Park. Aside from my father, uncles and older cousins, I learned more about Buckeye history (via his Official OSU Football Encyclopedia - highly recommend reading) than anyone else.

Great post, thank you for sharing.

buckeyebean81's picture

Nothing is final yet...I can't wait for the season to start and see if we have the refuse to lose of tenacity of the 2002 team. 

buckeye_heart's picture

Great facts, it must have taken awhile to put all that together. It seems so hard to believe that it has been so long since anyone in the BIG 10 has gone undefeated and untied in back to back seasons. It just shows how special this season could end.

Haybucks's picture

It will be a revelation to Danny Sheridan when the Bucks go 14-0.  A bet that I'd gladly take just because of his attitude.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

RedStorm45's picture

So the other teams went undefeated & untied overall, but OSU only did it in conference?  Am I reading that right?

TennesseeBuckeye's picture

Yes that's correct, the closet we can was '68-'69, but the greatest upset ever occurred in the last game of the regular season (TTUN), we followed that up in 1970 by winning all regular season games but Stanford got us in the Rose Bowl. So one could argue we were just as close to going back to back to back (68-70)as we were going back to back in 54-55. But the 54-55 teams did go undefeated in conference both years were as the late sixties teams lost a conference game in between the years ruining it. Beginning in 1946 ties were counted as 1/2 win 1/2 loss so our Buckeyes 1916-1917 are given a 1.000 both years even though the 1917 team had an out of conference tie. So even though the official records give them a 1.000 because of the rules then, we look at it and say a slight blemish, that can be topped with all wins.
Go Bucks!

I may not be able to outsmart too many people, but I can outwork 'em.
Woody Hayes