B1G vs. SEC Arrests/Citations

Stinson's picture
June 26, 2013 at 10:18p
34 Comments

Since all this Aaron Hernandez news has come to the surface, there has been a lot of talk as to who can be to blame in all this. It must be that thug Urban Meyer and his tolerance for criminal activity! *cough*cough*

So I figured instead of speculating, I'd actually do some research to provide a comparison (SEC vs. B1G) of arrests/citations. Let's take a look at that "culture" of integrity that the Southeastern Conference epitomizes.

 

                              SEC Football arrests/citations                   B1G Football arrests/citations                      

2010                                         16                                                               12

2011                                         51                                                               28

2012                                         57                                                               45

Total:                                      124                                                              85


 

By school (2010-2012):

Iowa:                  19                    Florida:                 18

Illinois:                  9                     Missouri:               17

Nebraska:             8                     Arkansas:              15

Penn State:          8                     Georgia:                14

Ohio State:           7                     Ole Miss:               11

TTUN:                  6                     South Carolina:       8

Michigan State:      6                     Kentucky:              7

Minnesota:            5                     Tennessee:            6

Maryland:              5                     Texas A&M:            6

Purdue:                4                     Auburn:                 6

Wisconsin:             2                    Louisiana State:       5

Indiana:                 1                    Mississippi State:      2

Rutgers:                1                    Alabama:                 2

Northwestern:       0                    Vandy:                    1

 

- I'm counting 5 SEC schools in double digits. 

- Florida had 13 arrests in 2011 alone.

- What the hell, Iowa?

 

(via ArrestNation.com)

 

 

 

 

Comments

KBonay's picture

Let's just remember, in the US, we are innocent until proven guilty. While arrests are a decent statistic to make this comparison, ultimately we should be looking at convictions. 
But then again, the media had their own agenda. 

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

That's a fair point, but how hard is it not not get arrested? Even if you're innocent of the crime you're probably guilty of being an idiot.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Not to mention high level athletes tend to get off without being convicting, and, instead, just some community service or suspension or something. There's no perfect stat for it, but I agree: what the hell is up with Iowa?

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

4thandinches's picture

Where there's smoke, there is fire. It's a pattern.  

I wasn't born a Buckeye but I became one as fast as I could. 

Hovenaut's picture

I think most of those Iowa nabs were running backs.

Sacrificed unto the AIRBHG.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Stinson's picture

Yeah, 15 of Iowa's 19 were in 2012.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

LadyBuck's picture

Those sacrifices have fallen upon deaf ears. The AIRBHG is never happy.

dzig's picture

To be perfectly honest, I don't much care for the agruement that "they're worse than us" when talking about criminal activity.  There isn't a single conference or school for that matter that is 100% innocent.  I don't think saying our kids get into trouble, but your kids get into more trouble gets anyone, anywhere good.  I'd prefer that people focus more on how they can change that environment for the better and be able to show the kids that they have the world in front of them and nothing but opportunities ahead.
This Hernandez situation doesn't reflect well on anyone, and never will.  I love arguing sports and being a homer for OSU as much as anyone, but this is a no win situation for everyone ever involved.

"all men are created equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others"

Stinson's picture

^ indeed

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Actually, Northwestern has 0 arrests so HA THERE ARE INNOCENT SCHOOLS!
No, in reality, your point is spot on.  A football team of 18-22 year olds in college - somebody's bound to f up at some point.  I'm tired of these kinds of things reflecting on coaches, because in reality, a coaching staff can't babysit every player 24/7/365.  Obviously, if there are a lot of arrests, like an insane number, then it's fishy.  In general, though, it's the kid's fault for screwing up. 
And when someone (Herbstreit?) said that OSU should stop recruiting Clarett/Pryor types - OK, that's very easy to say in hindsight, because we know what happened with them.  But, how was OSU supposed to know what would happen with these guys when they were actually recruiting them?  I guess Clarett had a checkered history or whatever back in grade school, but Pryor didn't seem to have any red flags in that regard.  Things happen - you deal with them and move on...a coach can talk about staying out of trouble all he wants, but essentially, that's all a coach can do.

Class of 2010.

pjtobin's picture

I lost my virginity and front teeth in county jail. At the same time. I will never jaywalk again. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Haybucks's picture

Colonoscopy and root canals are huge dreads.  I'm glad I can walk a straight line and whistle a happy tune.  

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

MN Buckeye's picture

Most nights I can walk a straight line, but I have never been very good at whistling.

pjtobin's picture

Three hots and a cot is not all I got. Teeth removed,my rear abused,  I wasn't amused. Don't down vote,  this is only smoke, a sad excuse for a joke. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

pjtobin's picture

Three hots and a cot is not all I got. Teeth removed,my rear abused,  I wasn't amused. Don't down vote,  this is only smoke, a sad excuse for a joke. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

I also think, if you want to go down the "we're better an them" road, you could focus on football penalties for arrests/transgressions. I.e. we have a couple guys piss on a golf course and get their scholarship revoked where certain more southern schools may have a kid be caught with illegal possession or get charged with assault and, at best, gets suspended half of an opening BS game. 
Just saying, might be more fruitful to look into.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

zachofaltrades's picture

Thank God we have a QB and leader like Braxton that uses social media responsibly, is humble, works hard, and leads by example.  Also I think this staff is going out of their way to take "the right type of kid" in terms of maturity and background and staying away from possible "problems."

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

You people are putting a jinx on Braxton. :/

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

rekrul's picture

It would be nice to see a breakdown like...
 
Guilty pleas/convictions, then Major/Minor (Minor = peeing in public, underage drinking etc)...  Relate it to Personal Foul, False Start, Off Sides Penalties.  
 
 Causing bodily harm to scUM players do not count as a crime even though most of the fans believe it should.  But when you have been victimized by tOSU as often as they have, I can understand the hostility...

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

tennbuckeye19's picture

I'm not saying that it's true, but I heard an interview with the guy who wrote Urban's biography 'Urban's Way' and he addressed the arrests and criminal activity that took place at Florida while Urban was there. He said that while some of the arrests were legitimate and serious in nature, he believed the Gainesville police had an agenda with arresting Florida players. He said simple, routine traffic stops would turn into arrests and charges would be dropped for most of the arrests, but all the media would report was that "another Florida player was arrested". He said Urban felt the Gainesville police were targeting his players. 

mh277907's picture

Seriously, though, what kind of trouble can you possibly get into in Iowa?

buckeyebobcat

rekrul's picture

Corn Tipping is a cereal matter, waaaay to much shucking around hence punishable...

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

Firmthyfriendship's picture

Are these charges all against football players only? Were they convicted; were charges dropped? Are these felonies and/or misdemeanors having to do with violence or minor charges like Disorderly conduct or illegal expulsion of bodily fluids? 
 
Lastly,*Sarcasm Ahead* thank God we are better than the SEC at everything, and what they are good at is a direct result of a recruit anyone or anything mentality because everyone is a hardened killer down there. *End Sarcasm* 

Squirrel Master's picture

Any chance you can break down the per year for OSU and UF at that time. Also throw in Georgia because if Urban was the horrible "thug" recruiter, Mark Richt is right there!
and of course, Kirk Ferentz needs to get his boys some hobbies! I'm starting to get a vision of this,

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

MN Buckeye's picture

With the recruiting we have seen from Urban in the past 2+ classes, it seems over and over again that he is bringing in character kids.  The emphasis on connecting with the families and the focus on positive values has been evident.  Just look at the interviews with these guys and you only see class acts.  The 13 recruits so far in the class of '14 are good examples.

Maestro's picture

So we're catching up?

vacuuming sucks

dubjayfootball90's picture

Iowa: The New Thug U!

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

Sgt. Elias's picture

This goes here:

 

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

michael.mintos's picture

What is the point of posting something like this? Can we stop the pissing contest with the SEC??! Seriously, comparing arrests and citations of players is like bragging about getting a D to a kid that got an F. 
I'm positive that all true Buckeye fans took the 7 arrests we had the same way: we hung our heads and hoped that it was a misunderstanding. And true fans from Louisiana or Alabama or Mississippi felt the same way about their players. I can tell you as a teacher and coach, you can guide kids in the right direction as much as you possibly can but there are external factors that you can't control. Kids face things that are counterproductive to your mission on a daily basis. Sometimes they have terrible parents, sometimes they have the urge to get laid, sometimes they're pressured to get high, sometimes they've been drinking and piss outside (Stoneburner). 
Get this negative bulls*** out of here. We have a mission to win a national championship and defeat any team who gets in our way. I know I will only boast about winning games, not winning the jail statistic. 

BME_Buckeye's picture

I noticed a few people asking for a break down of the offenses committed that lead to arrest and citations. If you go to the link provided by the OP ArrestNation, you can find out what each party in regard to their offense. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

harleymanjax's picture

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

nickma71's picture

I see the Alabama campus police do not apply the equal protection of the law portion of the 14th amendment. If you believe 2, I have a bridge for sale.

OSUs12-OH's picture

Thanks for this...too bad ESPN won't do a story on it.  Would be quite a confliction of interest no???

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

Eddie-Eddie's picture

What is going on at Iowa?!?!?!
 
Interesting post.