The Series History: Ohio State/Michigan State

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December 4, 2013 at 5:48p
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Before we get to the history a quick note about the present:

The more things change, the more things remain the same. If you were to ask Urban Meyer what the turning point of the 2012 season was he would undoubtedly answer the Michigan State game.

He has been on record many times describing how the 2012 season was saved during that game. Not because the Buckeyes won the 17-16, but because the attitude of the team changed that day. The players and the staff came together and believed in each other that day. There was Championship Water that day.

A year later and Ohio State and Michigan State are slated to play for the B1G Championship. Most definitely the biggest game of the 2013 season.

A victory guarantees a Rose Bowl berth for the winner. A victory could give the Buckeyes a chance to play in the BCS National Championship Game. A win and there will be Championship Water.

The more things change, the more things stay they same.

Today's Trivia Question

This will be the 15th time Ohio State and Michigan State have played when both teams are ranked. What is Ohio State's record against Michigan State when both teams were ranked?

The History of Ohio State versus Michigan State

Home = Columbus
Away = East Lansing

Series Overall
Record: 28-13                
Points:  1,028-650                      
Avg:     25-16           

Home:  13-8                         
Points:  539-378                            
Avg:     26-18          

Away:  15-5                            
Points: 489-272                    
Avg:     25-14                                       

Last Ten Games
Record: 8-2
Points:  265-159
Avg:     27-16

Last Ten Home Games
Record: 7-3
Points:  233-177
Avg:     23-18

Last Ten Away Games
Record: 8-2
Points:  263-142
Avg:     26-14

Record When Both Teams are Ranked
Record: 10-4
Points:  363-243
Avg:     26-17

Record When Michigan State is Ranked
Record: 10-7
Points:  385-296
Avg:     23-17

Record When Michigan State is not Ranked
Record: 18-6                   
Points:   643-338                  
Avg:      27-14          

The Series by Decades

Win, Loss, Tie
(Ohio State's Ranking/Michigan State's Ranking) going into the game.


2010s

 

 

2012 A  17-16   (14/20)
2011  H  7-10      (NR/25)

 


 

Record: 1-1       Home:  0-1      Away:  1-0  
Points:  24-26    Points: 7-10    Points: 17-16        
Avg:     12-13    Avg:    7-10    Avg:    17-16        

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 1-0         Home: ----        Away: 1-0        
Points:  17-16     Points: ----       Points: 17-16        
Avg:     17-16     Avg:    ----        Avg:   17-16 

When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 1-1         Home: 0-1        Away:  1-0        
Points:  24-26     Points: 7-10       Points: 17-16        
Avg:     12-13     Avg:    7-10        Avg:   17-16    

Did not Play When Michigan State was not Ranked


2000s

2008 A  45-7      (12/20)
2007 H  24-17    (1/NR)
2006 A  38-7      (1/NR)
2005 H  35-24    (15/16)
2004 A  32-19
2003 H  33-23    (7/14)
2000 A  27-13    (16/NR)

Record: 7-0          Home: 3-0        Away:  4-0       
Points:  234-110   Points: 92-64    Points: 142-46           
Avg:     33-16       Avg:   31-21     Avg:    36-12        

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 3-0           Home:  2-0          Away: 1-0       
Points:  113-54      Points: 68-47      Points: 45-7        
Avg:     38-18        Avg:    34-24       Avg:   45-7

When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 3-0           Home:  2-0          Away:  1-0       
Points:  113-54      Points: 68-47      Points: 45-7        
Avg:      38-18        Avg:   34-24      Avg:    45-7

When Michigan State was not Ranked
Record: 4-0          Home: 1-0         Away:  3-0         
Points:  121-56     Points: 24-17      Points: 97-39           
Avg:     30-14       Avg:    24-7       Avg:    32-13          


1990s

1999 A  7-23        (20/19)
1998 H  24-28      (1/NR)
1997 A  37-13    (9/21)
1994 A  23-7
1993 H  28-21    (5/25)
1992 A  27-17
1991 H  27-17    (14/NR)

Record: 5-2         Home: 2-1      Away:  3-1      
Points:  173-126  Points: 79-66   Points: 94-60
Avg:     25-1       Avg:    26-22   Avg:    24-15

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 2-1         Home:  1-0           Away:  1-1       
Points:  72-57      Points: 28-21       Points: 44-36       
Avg:     24-19      Avg:    28-21       Avg:    22-18

When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 2-1         Home:  1-0           Away:  1-1       
Points:  72-57      Points: 28-21       Points: 44-36       
Avg:     24-19      Avg:    28-21        Avg:   22-18       

When Michigan State was not Ranked
Record: 3-1             Home:  1-1         Away:  2-0      
Points:  101-69        Points: 51-45      Points: 50-24          
Avg:     25-17          Avg:    26-23      Avg:    25-12

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     

1980s


1988 A  10-20
1987 H  7-13        (15/20)
1984 A  23-20    (8/NR)
1983 H  21-11    (17/NR)
1982 A  31-10    (12/NR)
1981 H  27-13    (8/NR)
1980 A  48-16    (9/NR)

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 0-1       Home: 0-1        Away: ----        
Points:  7-13     Points: 7-13      Points: ----         
Avg:     7-13     Avg:    7-13       Avg:   ----

When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 0-1           Home:  0-1         Away: ----         
Points:  7-13         Points: 7-13       Points: ----             
Avg:      7-13         Avg:     7-13        Avg: ----           

When Michigan State was not Ranked
Record: 5-1         Home:  2-0          Away:  3-1         
Points: 160-90     Points: 48-24       Points: 112-66           
Avg:    27-15       Avg:    24-12       Avg:    28-17         
   
 

 

1970s

1979 H  42-0      (4/NR)
1976 H  49-21    (4/NR)
1975 A  21-0      (3/11)

1974 A  13-16      (1/NR)
1973 H  35-0      (1/NR)
1972 A  12-19      (5/NR)
1971 H  10-17      (9/NR)
1970 A  29-0     (1/NR)

Record: 5-3          Home:  3-1           Away: 2-2        
Points:  211-73     Points: 136-38     Points: 75-35           
Avg:     26-9         Avg:    34-10      Avg:    19-9         

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 1-0         Home: ----       Away: 1-0       
Points:  21-0       Points: ----      Points: 21-0        
Avg:     21-0       Avg:    ----      Avg:    21-0

When Michigan State is Ranked:
Record: 1-0         Home: ----       Away: 1-0       
Points:  21-0       Points: ----      Points: 21-0        
Avg:     21-0       Avg:    ----       Avg:   21-0

When Michigan State was not Ranked:
Record: 4-3         Home:  3-1           Away: 1-2        
Points: 190-57     Points: 136-38     Points: 54-35        
Avg:    27-8         Avg:    34-10       Avg:   18-12   

 

1960s

1969 H  54-21     (1/19)
1968 H  25-20     (2/16)
1967 A  21-7

1966 H  8-11         (NR/1)
1965 A  7-32         (NR/4)
1960 A  21-10     (8/10)

Record: 4-2          Home: 2-1        Away:  2-1        
Points:  136-101   Points: 87-52    Points: 49-49           
Avg:     23-17       Avg:   29-17     Avg:   16-16         
  
When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 3-0         Home:  2-0           Away: 1-0      
Points:  100-51    Points: 79-41       Points: 21-10         
Avg:     33-17      Avg:    40-21       Avg:    21-10

When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 3-2             Home:  2-1        Away: 1-1         
Points:  115-94        Points: 87-52    Points: 28-42           
Avg:     23-19          Avg:    29-17    Avg:    14-21         
      
When Michigan State was not Ranked
Record: 1-0           Home:  ----       Away: 1-0        
Points:  21-7          Points: ----       Points: 21-7           
Avg:     21-7          Avg:    ----       Avg:   21-7         
   

1950s

 

1959 H  30-24      (20/NR)
1953 H  13-28        (16/5)
1951 H  20-24        (7/1)
     
Record: 1-2         Home:  1-2           Away: ----        
Points:  63-76      Points: 63-76       Points: ----           
Avg:     21-25      Avg:    21-25        Avg:   ----          

When Both Teams were Ranked:
Record: 0-2         Home:  0-2          Away:  ----      
Points: 33-52      Points: 33-52       Points: ----         
Avg:     17-26      Avg:     17-26       Avg:     ----


When Michigan State was Ranked
Record: 0-2             Home: 0-2              Away: ----       
Points:  33-52         Points: 33-52          Points: ----            
Avg:     17-26         Avg:    17-26          Avg:    ----         
     

When Michigan State was not Ranked
Record: 1-0           Home: 1-0            Away: ----       
Points:  30-24       Points: 30-24        Points: ----            
Avg:     30-24       Avg:    30-24        Avg:    ----


1910s


1912 H  20-35

Record: 0-1           Home:  0-1         Away: ----        
Points:  20-35        Points: 20-35     Points: ----           
Avg:     20-35        Avg:    20-35      Avg:   ----          

Did not play when Michigan State was Ranked

Today's Trivia Question

This will be the 15th time Ohio State and Michigan State have played when both teams are ranked. What is Ohio State's record against Michigan State when both teams were ranked?

Answer: Ohio State holds a 10-4 advantage when both teams come into this game ranked.

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Comments

GoBucks10's picture

Just have to ask...where are you finding all the old game posters?  Is it as simple as a Google search?  Great blog as always, REMY.

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

Remy's picture

Thanks for the compliment GoBucks10.
I've used Yahoo Image search each week.
This is the search page for MSU :
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oG7m9YsZ9STlkAPjRXNy...
Surprisingly Ohio State/Michigan State programs are not easy to find. That Team keeps popping up instead of the Spartans.
 

"I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later." ~ Mitch Hedberg

GoBucks10's picture

Maze Sun and Blue tends to pop up where it doesn't belong...like all-over down here in Cincinnati.

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

Doc's picture

Remy helping us get game ready.  Thank you kind sir.

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InvertMyVeer's picture

Really enjoy your posts, Remy. Love seeing those old gameday posters too, very cool.

Football is complicated...

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I know Sparty has had few really great teams in recent decades, but I'm still a little surprised to see that we haven't played them when they were in the Top Ten since 1966.
A lot of memories with the team from East Lansing:
The awful game in 1974 was, I believe, the first time I ever watched the Buckeyes lose. The finish, namely the failure at the end to award the Buckeyes a touchdown it seemed obvious they scored, was never really explained to anyone. 
The 1981 game was the first time I ever saw the Buckeyes in person, at least at an age where I can remember. Morten Andersen set the conference record for longest field goal, one I don't believe has ever been remotely approached.
1998 I guess most of us recall.
The win in East Lansing in 2004 was the first time I started thinking we might have something interesting with that new quarterback, Smith.
I know others have pointed out the symmetry of the fact that we missed out on the first BCS championship game because we couldn't beat MSU in '98, and beating them now could get us to the last BCS title game. But the 2011 game should be mentioned in here too, because of all the bad moments in that 6-7 season, that 10-7 loss (talk about a game that wasn't as close as the final score) had to be the lowest -- the point where we looked so inept and hopeless, it was clear we were going to need a real savior.
Michigan State might have indirectly given us Urban Meyer. Sparty just keeps popping up at important turning points.

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TennesseeBuckeye's picture

Remy great post as usual
 
Buckeyes ranked #2 vs ranked MSU (#16) 1-0
Buckeyes ranked vs MSU when Bucks are ranked higher 10-1. The #20 ranked Spartans beat the #15 Buckeyes in 1987. The other 9 times a higher ranked Buckeyes team played a lower ranked Spartans team they won.
The 3 worst loses were 1972 (#5), '74 (#1) and "98 (#1), Spartans were unranked. This leads me to believe when Spartans are good Buckeyes are prepared and win. Ranked Spartan teams are 5-10 vs Buckeyes. Lower ranked Spartans vs higher ranked Buckeyes 1-10.
Only 3 times since 1965 has MSU scored more than 21 points (1965, 1998,1999). MSU is 4-0 when scoring 28+, they are 6-3 when scoring 23+. When MSU is held to 23 or under they are 7-25.
10 of tOSU's loses are when they are held to or under 13 points, the 3 times we lost when scoring more than 13 (20-1912,20-1951, 24-1998).
Last years game was the first time OSU was held under 20 points and won vs MSU.
The Buckeyes record when scoring vs MSU:
17+    28  3  0  (0.903)
20+    27  3  0  (0.900)
2 loses we scored 20 points (1912,1951)
21+    27  1  0  (0.964)
The loss was a 24-28 loss which will live in infamy 1998
25+    20  0  0  (1.000)
 
Just about every other team OSU plays in the Big Ten you'll find OSU winning a few games 7-0, 10-7 and losing a few games 21-24, 24-35, not this one this is cut and dry, MSU has to keep OSU off the score board. On the other hand tOSU can give up 20-24 points and win.
OSU is 8-1 when both teams score at least 20 points, yes that one loss was 1998.
OSU wins they go to NCG and MSU goes to Rose Bowl. There will be no argument if MO wins, they (Sports Media) placed their bets on Auburn. I think MO wins, but even if they don't OSU will have beaten the #1, #3 and #9 defenses in the country.
Great job again Remy!
Go Bucks!
 
 
 

I may not be able to outsmart too many people, but I can outwork 'em.
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