Recruiting quarterbacks is like a box of chocolates ...

NuttyBuck's picture
June 28, 2013 at 2:21a

I generally agree with the list of "must-get" recruits. But. We have Mr. Collier now, and we should stand behind him. If Mr. Harris chooses wisely and joins Buckeye nation, Bonus! If not, we will probably still thrive, because Collier is underrated (for all you star gazers). Collier is 100% Buckeye, and that should mean at least as much as stars. The best part of a Harris commitment would be the assurance of optimal competition for both quarterbacks. Who knows, perhaps Collier surpasses Harris and leads the Buckeyes out of the tunnel in a couple years. 

Recruiting quarterbacks, unlike any other position, provides ample opportunities to find both diamonds and busts. While objectivity may be the one indispensable quality when recruiting QBs, allowing a recruiter to see past the hype and actually get to know prospects. And unlike any other position, intangibles matter. As we know, the QB represents a field general on the field, leader at practice, and motivator in the locker room. Physical tools (e.g. size, speed, arm strength, accuracy) are critical, obviously. But so is football iQ, a hatred for losing, loyalty to the team, and a love for The Buckeyes. In that way, recruiting quarterbacks is like a box of chocolates - we are wise to get to know some of the obscure flavors, because those around us often steal the popular ones. 

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buckeyedude's picture

You make some very good points, and I agree completely. As an example to further illustrate your point, Craig Krenzel may not have been the most talented QB(I do believe he was way underrated), but he was the QB the Buckeyes needed to lead them to the promised land. He was/is smart, didn't get in trouble, could scramble when needed, and made good decisions. TP had all the God given talent in the world, yet didn't have it together upstairs. With all of the talent that OSU has at the supporting positions, RB, WR, etc., having a freak-of-nature QB is not a total necessity. If you have one(i.e. Braxton), it's just a bonus, IMO.  



Hovenaut's picture

Troy Smith.....last scholarship awarded in the '02 class. Justin Zwick was supposed to be the guy.

Glad that worked out the way it did.

Poison nuts's picture

Your right, you never do know...I like Collier because I like the underdog in general & because I don't believe they wouldn't have given him a chance if there wasn't something special about him. I also like that he's got a ton of character & a good head on his shoulders. He'll be fine & I do hope he ends up as the next Troy Smith.

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Yeti's have feelings too.

MN Buckeye's picture

One thing necessary in a QB is the ability to make instant decisions on limited information.  Many athletes have the raw physical ability to make plays, but having to 'thin slice' a moment (Blink, by Malcolm Gladwell) is what they do nearly every play, particularly the read option.

1MechEng's picture

Upvote for the Malcolm Gladwell reference!

NuttyBuck's picture

Well put and I agree. I think confidence goes a long way toward good decision-making. So I say lets give him some confidence by believing in the QB we do have. 
Semper Woody

Earle's picture

Semper Woody

If I remember my Latin correctly, you should consult a physician about that.

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bukyze's picture

I think you're good up to 4 hours.

zenshade's picture

That's the thing that impressed me the most about watching Collier's video.  He was very good at getting out of pressure and firing the ball down-field immediately.
He also seemed to have really good touch on the ball with short, intermediate and long throws.
And showed really good poise in the pocket.
And always kept his eyes down-field when scrambling.
And seemed to have a good feel for when to take off running.
...I think we got a real steal, a very high ceiling QB who was vastly underrated at this point.

WyoBuckeye's picture

If recruiting QBs is like a box of chocolates, then the recruiting services are like the map they print on the inside of the lid.  They give you little help in telling what is really good.  You're usually better off trusting somebody who eats a lot of chocolates to tell you what is good and what is not (i.e. the coaches).

DannyBeane's picture

Could you also make an argument that physically gifted athletes tend to hold the world on their shoulders because its what they are used to? What I am saying is the more athletic qb's tend to rely on their own abilities more than their team mate's abilities since its the one variable they can control even to the detriment of the team? Such as a qb hastily making the decision to run the ball instead of scanning through the list of eligible receivers and then not making the play. 
A less gifted athlete might be more aware of his weaknesses and be more willing to rely on his team and wait for opportunities to open up. Again this is all a hypothesis based on no concrete evidence other than these stories you here about qb's coming out of no where and suddenly being successful.

NuttyBuck's picture

Makes perfect sense. It's like guerrilla tactics - use your weakness to your advantage!

pjtobin's picture

Good write up. Thanks. 

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