Tressel to Wisconsin? Not a rumor--just a thought

Jonnferrell's picture
December 17, 2012 at 4:13p
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If Alvarez has any grey matter left after putting up with Bret "booger eater" Bielema, he should try to get Jim Tressel in Madison.  I know there is the 5 game thing, but Alvarez could be on the sideline for those--most are out of conference anyhow.  Barry would love it--he would get to coach, and not get the blame.  JT gets his team together, gets his coaching staff in place, gets recruiting, and runs the practices.  I doubt if Barry could convnce Tressel, but he should give it all he has.  You won't get anyone who knows the Big10 better, and who knows how to win better than him? 

I know it's a stretch for OSU fans, and maybe a lot bigger of a stretch for Badger fans, but let's face it--a lot of OSU fans were not fond of Urban Meyer while he was at Florida, especially when he was stomping us in the National Championship game.  That is all forgiven now--and UFM is the best thing since Woody Hayes.  I guess the question is does JT even want to coach?  If he does, I can't think of a better situation while the five game clause is in effect.  You got Big Papa Barry to stand around on the sideline looking coach-like through those first five games.  We know that Wisconsin needs to make a strong hire--and this would be a very strong one for the Badgers.  Any thoughts?

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UrbanWoodrowEarlTressel's picture

no way Jose, I know it's just a thought - but the day I see Tressel roaming the Wisconsin sidelines is the day I throw up in my mouth continually

Jonnferrell's picture

LOL, I know it would be distasteful for us, but really--wouldn't it make sense for Wisconsin?  

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Deshaun's picture

This has to be viewed from the perspective of the decision makers: Barry Alvarez and Jim Tressel.

From Wisconsin’s perspective, who is the best person out there to run a program? The litmus test comes after the announcement is made. Is the reaction around the Big Ten, “Wow, Wisconsin just got a lot better today?” If yes, you’ve likely made a good hire. Hiring Jim Tressel (national champ, 7 seasons ranked in AP top-5, 6 straight B1G championships, solid graduation rates, perennial top-10 recruiting classes) would accomplish that. Hiring Chris Peterson (91% win percentage, 2-0 in BCS bowls, ranked top-11 AP in 5 of 7 seasons) would as well. Gary Anderson? Not so much.

Jim Tressel is 60 years old, which sounds old until you realize Nick Saban is 61 and Les Miles is 59. Wisconsin has a sound roster and is no reclamation project. He would be the coach of a program with two decades of success, a roster tailor-made for Tresselball, new facilities on the way, tons of instate support, and a Big Ten battle ground he knows well. He could assemble a solid coaching staff from his coaching tree (Jim Heacock, anyone?) and have success in year 1. His work as the Indianapolis Colts’ “replay review consultant” in 2011 and subsequent head coaching interview in 2012 seem to indicate he may want to return to coaching. From the perspective of Jim Tressel, would the head coaching position at Wisconsin be a good situation?

It’s difficult not to look at this from the perspective of a Buckeye fan, since that is what we all are. He will always be our Senator Tressel. Of course it would be great to remember him as “our guy” who led us to the Promised Land. When fans of other teams considered him a target of an NFL team, we knew he would never want to coach anyone after Ohio St. The image of our guy wearing a sweater vest with anything but a block-O on the chest is impossible for us to reconcile.

But this has to be viewed from the perspectives of Alvarez and Tressel. Even though it looks like Alvarez is going another direction, this would have been a good move for both of them.

Unky Buck's picture

While it would be a slam dunk hire as you elude to in terms of notoriety, I just don't think it's feasible to think that it would ever happen. I've seen you post about this multiple times in the recent weeks so I know I won't change your opinion on it but there's just too much involved to make this work. The thing about the 5 year show-cause that is troubling for a football program of Wisconsin's caliber is that it can bring unnecessary scrutiny to the program just because of what happened. Only his suspension is carried over with his hire, but his hiring is an automatic red flag for the NCAA and they will closely watch him and what the program does. I just don't think schools of that caliber want to see their programs watched over like lab rats on a constant basis to see if someone screws up.
I think Tressel may coach again but I think he may have to go at it the way Petrino did at first and go to a lesser school that has nothing to lose and will risk the hazards against the rewards in hopes to catch lightning in a bottle. Obviously he wouldn't need to go as low as Petrino, but a school in the Group of Five would be feasible and realistic.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

I don't see Tressel coaching at another B1G school. Ever. Although I don't know for certain, I would venture to say Tressel feels a huge sense of loyalty to OSU and if he goes back into coaching it will not be in the B1G. In fact, I'm not even sure he has the desire to coach again.

Jonnferrell's picture

Yeah, I know--thinking the same thing.   But I still think that Alvarez would be crazy not to give it all he has to try to get him.  UFM always loved OSU and wanted to coach here.  I don't think that Wisconsin comes anywhere near that in JT's heart.  But in his current position, if he has an inkling to coach again, this would be a perfect scenario.

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Doc's picture

Completely agree.  If JT was to coach again it wouldn't be in the B1G.  He has a legacy at OSU to protect and diluting that coaching the Cheese Curds wouldn't make sense.

"Say my name."

Jonnferrell's picture

But that legacy has unfortunately already been tarnished.  Woody's has suffered greatly from an old man punch and grab that the Clemson player himself said he didn't even feel.  It would be good to see Tressel have some football success again.  

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Doc's picture

Tarnished?  Maybe to outsiders, but from the ovation he got Nov 24 not to us.  I agree he may coach again, but I bet this time it would be at a smaller school in a lesser(?) league.  Not in the B1G.

"Say my name."

BuckeyeVet's picture

@DOC - I certainly hope so.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx

 

jestertcf's picture

That show cause penalty, is going to make any school think twice.
I  have some Clemson fans at work who were begging for their school to call him.

~Because we couldn't go for three~

Jonnferrell's picture

Yes, but with old Barry chomping at the bit to be on the sideline, this could be that golden opportunity to shove that show cause right up the NCAA's penalty pipeline.

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Matt's picture

The show cause penalty is for at least 3 or 4 more years, not 5 games.  Tressel serves the 5 game suspension if and when he returns to NCAA FB coaching.  He can't return to coaching until the show cause period expires, or until a school shows cause for why they have to hire Tressel.  Winning more football games doesn't count as showing the necessary cause.  And if Wisconsin wants to go ahead and hire Tressel anyway, they'd most likely be fined times infinity and have its teams banned from NCAA competition, which would killed its athletic department.  So no, Wisconsin is not going to "shove the penalty up the NCAA's pipeline."

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

That's not exactly how a "show-cause" works. It means the penalties follow him for that amount of time. If a school hiring him wants to avoid those penalties that follow him, then they must appear in front of the Committee on Infractions and "show cause" as to why they do not deserve those penalties. Although there isn't a lot of precedent for hiring coaches with a show-cause, the common understanding of the NCAA's language regarding this matter is that a team who hires a coach has to accept the penalties handed down to him for his actions, which for Tressel is a 5-game suspension and a one season bowl ban. The "five years" caveat is how long the show-cause follows him. If he's hired within five years, then the school has to accept the penalty that follows him (or show cause). If he is hired after the five years are up, then the the penalties stop following him, and he can basically be hired again without any ramifications.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

actually, reading the rules again, I don't even think the bowl ban would follow him. It seems as if individual penalties only follow a coach, not institutional penalties. Also, since the bowl ban arose from the FTM charge levied after the DiGeronimo affair (after Tressel was gone) it is unlikely that penalty would follow him. And any school that hires Tressel could make a strong case that even the orginal 5 game penalty shouldn't have to follow Tressel since Goodell enforced it on him when he was working with the Colts (one has to wonder if that was pre-arranged, come to think of it).
Not advocating Tress to Wisconsin. I think it's an awful idea and about as unlikely as the world ending in 4 days. If he does coach again, I think it will be at a MAC school. Tressel has always had a soft spot in his heart for Ohio D-III and MAC football.

Deshaun's picture

The bowl ban applies to Jim Tressel, not the institution hiring him. Hypothetically, if Wisconsin hired Jim Tressel this off-season, he would miss the following games: (8/31) UMass, (9/07) Tennessee Tech, (9/14) @ Arizona St, (9/21) Purdue, and (9/28) @ Ohio St. He would then miss the 2013 season's bowl game. Wisconsin would not be subject to any postseason ban. He has no recruiting restrictions (a la Bruce Pearl's 3 year suspension from any recruiting activities) or sanctions beyond the 2013 season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/20/jim-tre...

Nkohl13's picture

I dont want him to coach any other team. He is an Ohio State legend. It just wouldnt be right.

Jonnferrell's picture

That's what Gator fans have been saying abut UFM, LOL.  I know, I know--but ah well . . . that's why I put it out here.  I wonder how Wisconsin fans would deal with it?

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Buckeyeneer's picture

The difference is, is that Urban is only 48.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

tennbuckeye19's picture

I'm not sure Tressel could handle the physical demands of coaching in Madison. I mean in order for him to coach Wisconsin, he'd have to gain about a hundred pounds. 

Jonnferrell's picture

ha ha true!

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

BuckeyeVet's picture

I know that Tressel got beat badly in the Nat'l Championship game vs FL. And we should never have fallen into the game vs LSU. We weren't the second best team in the country that year. But I NEVER, EVER want to see Jim Tressel on an opposite sideline - B1G or not. That man could coach dirt to victory over detergent inside of a washing machine. And the thought of him at Wisconsin is a nauseating thought.
What I hope for JT is that he finds his own "Mount Union" (look them up if you aren't familiar with them - quite a story) and gets to coach & teach. He's a millionaire, and doesn't need the money. Hope he lands at a Baldwin-Wallace, Akron, Youngstown State, etc... where he can happily coach as long as he wants without all the scrutiny & pressure of the FBS circus. 

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx

 

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

"We weren't the second best team in the country that year"
Yeah we were. But USC was the best team in the country.
Watch that game again. We shit down our legs. LSU was lucky to back into that game. We had them shiting bricks after going up 10-0. Turnovers, penalty yards to extend drives, dropped passes, it all led to a meltdown of epic proportions, which led to freakout mode, and instead of playing Tresselball, we had to play from behind, which means we had to put the game on the shoulders of Todd Boeckman instead of Beanie Wells. Florida was an unprepared beatdown. LSU was a meltdown. We would not have had "let downs" to the likes of Kentucky and Arkansas like LSU did. We were the #2 team in the country. But like I said, USC was #1. A last second loss to a Jim Harbaugh coached Stanford team and a 7 point loss to Dennis Dixon's Oregon team are nothing to sneeze at. USC would have demolished anyone LSU, and probably us as well, as they did just 9 months later.

BuckeyeVet's picture

@Humble - Agreed that USC would have beaten us. BOTH LSU & OSU backed into that game - remember how many teams lost to move us back up after our loss to Illinois?
You know, it's kind of weird, but my respect for Tressel as a coach has not lessened since he left OSU, but it changed. I now realize what a huge micro-manager he was, and his loyalty to the Bollmans of the world was his Achilles heel. Conversely, to achieve what he did while compensating for his self induced burdens speaks to how truly great of a coach he was. Not sure if that makes any sense, but as I said, I never want to see him on an opposite sideline (for many reasons).

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx

 

Unky Buck's picture

Yeah, we both backed in. Championship weekend had West Virginia and Missouri ranked 1 and 2 (can't remember in what order) and Herbie says on Gameday "Congratulations West Virginia, you're going to the National Championship game" and then a bad Pitt teams hangs on to win a low scoring affair amd Mizzou gets pummelled in the Big XII Championship game.

When we trounced TTUN we were ranked 7 and on our way to the Rose Bowl.

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Et_Tu_OSU's picture

Well, Bollman is available...

"The revolution will be televised."

theDuke's picture

how could you have even thunk this?

theDuke

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

If the BigTen AD's were smart, he'd be the first name on their list. You would think a guy that spent a decade dominating the league would get a call.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Jonnferrell's picture

Well, for all we know he did get calls--and didn't take them.

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

DefendOhio's picture

Tressel won't ever go back into coaching. 

causeicouldntgo43's picture

The only reason Coach Tress would go to Wisconsin was for some cheese. And I don't mean cheddar.

buckeye76BHop's picture

WHAT!????

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

GoBucks_All Day_Everyday's picture

UFM stands for? Urban Fucking Meyer I take it .

Buckeye_For_Life