The Game: Ohio State vs. Michigan

Geraffi's picture
February 24, 2013 at 12:00p
34 Comments

I was reading responses in a forum earlier regarding the age old argument that Michigan leads the all-time series vs. Ohio State, although Ohio State has owned that team up north over the last decade and in fact has been the dominant team in the modern era.  So I decided to spend my Sunday morning productively by reviewing the win/loss record in THE Game, especially since 1950 which was the end of the leather helmet era in college football.  I also dug a little further to find other relevant statistics.

With full disclosure, I used Wikipedia to gather the information presented below.  I was careful, often checking twice, but didn't want to spend my entire day on this little project, so feel free to check for accuracy.  Also, it's unclear when the vacated season is included or excluded on Wikipedia, so that could have a slight impact on the info presented below.  Again, feel free to check for accuracy.  I'll try to make corrections.

Hopefully this will help all of you defend the Scarlet and Gray!

The results show that Ohio State has definitely been the dominant team since 1950, but it's been a pretty even match up overall, as the greatest rivalry in all of sports should be.

THE GAME

Ohio State v Michigan Statistics (from Wikipedia)

Prior to 1918, Michigan pretty much owned the Buckeyes, going 12-0-2, between 1897-1912.

Because of this stretch, Michigan holds the all-time series lead 58-44-6.

The first meeting of OSU and Michigan as members of the Big Ten was in 1918.

Michigan won that meeting, but in 1919 Ohio State returned the favor, splitting the 1910’s, 1-1 (as members of the Big Ten).

The overall record since 1918 is 46-44-4, in Michigan’s favor, but just barely!  Urbs will right this wrong!

Since the end of the leather helmet era (using 1950 as the cut), the overall record is 33-30-2, Advantage, THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.

Record by Decade:

Decade

Ohio State

Michigan

Tie

1920s

4

6*

 

1930s

5

5

 

1940s

2

6*

2

1950s

5

5

 

1960s

7*

3

 

1970s

5*

4

1

1980s

4

6*

 

1990s

2

7*

1

2000s

8*

2

 

2010s

2~

1

 

*Won the decade (OSU 3 and current, UM 4, tied 2)

~Current leader

 

Other Relevant Statistics

Total National Championships Claimed

Ohio State

7

1942, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002

Number of NC since 1950 = 6

Michigan

11

1901*, 1902*, 1903*, 1904*, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997

Number of NC since 1950 = 1

*Shared with Princeton, Yale, or other (I didn’t look any further for shared titles)

Total Heisman Winners

Ohio State

7*

) 1944, 1950, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1995, 2006

Michigan

3

1940, 1991, 1997

*tied for most with ND and USC

BCS Appearances and Record:

 

Appearances

Record

NCG

Record

Ohio State

9

6-3

3

1-2

Michigan

5

2-3

0

0

Rose Bowl Appearances and Record

The Rose Bowl isn’t always the best measure due to Big Ten rules that didn’t allow the same team to go in consecutive years.  In addition, with the dawn of the BCS era, Ohio State played in three NCGs.  They would have likely gone to the Rose Bowl in those years.

 

All-time

Record

Since 1950

Record

Last

Ohio State

14

7-7

13

7-6

2010 (W)

Michigan

20

8-12

18

6-12

2007 (L)

Big Ten Champions/Co-Champions:

 

All-time

Since 1950

Last

Ohio State

34

26

2009

Michigan

42

23

2004

Comments

Gametime's picture

Nice work.

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

RBuck's picture

Damn John Cooper!
P.S. Actually I kind of liked Coop, but if you're THE coach of the Buckeyes, you have to beat scUM.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Geraffi's picture

Not sure where all that funky script came from.  Also noticed the formatting on mobile devices looks pretty bad. Sorry! First blog post. 

Geraffi's picture

OK, I reformatted to use tables, because that seems to transfer well when I copy and paste.  Still can't get rid of the jibberish script.  Sorry.

dubjayfootball90's picture

Nice post man. All the relevant info needed. Just goes to show how awesome this rivalry was, is, and will be.

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

ATLBuckeye09's picture

Nice post but I have to check the numbers (no time right now and will do so this evening). I know that Bo LOST more than 2 Rose Bowls in his tenure at scUM and you have them only losing 2 Rose Bowls since 1950 (we know they lost to Texas in 2005 Rose Bowl). Also your W/L numbers in the Rose Bowl for scUM do not add up to the total number of appearances while they do add up correctly for tOSU. Besides that this is a good post. I always tell scUM fans if you take away the first 15 years of the rivalry tOSU is the leader.

Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987

Geraffi's picture

You are correct. Thy should be 6-12. Typo. Will fix. 

Geraffi's picture

Rose Bowl Statistics corrected;
Michigan is 8-12 all time, 6-12 since 1950.

ATLBuckeye09's picture

Good job man. I grew up in ttun and I remember Bo always losing the Rose Bowl which of course I enjoyed! He won 1 time and it celebrated like they just won a national championship when it happened.

Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987

BME_Buckeye's picture

Going off tangent from the blog post but I agree the Rose Bowl holds little meaning now, at least for Ohio State. I know for other fan bases in the B1G that's all they dream about is a trip to Pasadena but I often feel that the culture of Ohio State football makes the Rose Bowl seems as if its beneath winning the national title.  While it is, its still the Rose Bowl and the greatest bowl game of them all. I often feel that most of us are accepting of it but only as a runner-up to a trip to the title game. Are we really that cut throat next year to win a national title? I've hung around several Wisconsin fans and gotten to see just how much passion it brings going to the Rose Bowl and hopefully if we go this year we embrace it. Keep in mind the  heights of Wisconsin's program is to go to the Rose Bowl. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Hoody Wayes's picture

I love stats. Your inaugural blog post is outstanding!

Buckeyeneer's picture

Great post!

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University

kevinfrenchfry's picture

Uggghhhhhh...the 90's

hail2victors9's picture

I'm eternally grateful for the 90s and having bragging rights through 90% of my K-12 years.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

buckeye76BHop's picture

Hmmmm....this made me chuckle after all the round and round you and I have had about relevancy in the past decade compared to these years>1890-1950 and the 90s.  Those years are what made TTUN look like they have the favor in all time head to head wins.  See what I meant now...or are you still denial about national relevancy in our time as far as OSU being compared to TTUN...???
Not to mention...you were one of those ppl I said used to talk mass crap during my k-12 years not to mention college.  I lived with two TTUN fans at my frat house....one was from TSUN...so that I understood...and the other guy was from Bellevue who had a Grandpa that went to UM for Law (that one was a bit of a stretch but hey...TTUN was better in the 90s so why not right...even though he's from Ohio).  It still didn't make it any easier hearing them talk about beating us every year.  Now you see why I give you shit sometimes for coming here.  I would have never came to websites if they existed back in the 90s.  NO WAY!  I couldn't bare the embarrassment personally;-)

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Killer nuts's picture

Also worth noting, since 1950 we have 6 national championships to *ichigan's 1

Geraffi's picture

Absolutely worth noting. 

Hovenaut's picture

Nice breakdown Geraffi, Urbz and company are going to make their mark when its all said and done.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

GODOFWARBUCKEYE's picture

DAMM YOU COOOOPPPPPPERRRR!!!!! LMAO I remember uttering those exact words watching my bucks get beat out of national championships heismans because coop couldnt beat ttun....

"GIMMIE THAT BEAT FOOL!!! IT'S A FULL TIME JACK MOVE" Ice Cube jack for beats..

OSUAndy07's picture

Nice work. Often thought of doing compiling these data together but I don't think I couldn't done it as well

"But I'm tryin' Ringo. I'm tryin', real hard, to be the shepherd"

Lon_Paul's picture

Wow, fantastic post!  I'm a big statistics nerd so I love statistical breakdowns like this.  Awesome, awesome job!  I'm definitely gonna keep this handy so I can beat all my scUM friends over the head with my improved historical knowledge of the rivalry now haha.

BoFuquel's picture

FANBUCKINGTASTIC! GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

If only Coop had just won two more games against M*chigan(95 & 96), i'd be happy.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

hail2victors9's picture

My favorite stat is that the series is dead even since '69, Bo's first year.  21-21-2, I believe.
Also, I hope none of you acknowledge the vacated game(s).  It happened.  It counts.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

Geraffi's picture

21-21-2, is correct.  I confirmed using the same Wikipedia data, and of course included the win the NCAA stole from us.  This really is an incredible stat. Thanks for including. 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

My favorite stat is 9-1 from 2001-10. A great decade that was.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BME_Buckeye's picture

I like our dominance but I'm not sure if that includes the vacated win (2010) or not. That being said, no matter how you slice it, Michigan holds the overall advantage. Although, we've won as of late, I'm hoping we can continue the winning ways under Meyer. I would love to see the lead trim from 14 games to under 10 or fewer during Meyer tenure. Imagine if we beat them twice, that would shave off one year from playing catch up. I wonder where we would then draw the division line to put the series in our favor? Maybe move back to 47' or 45'?
Also, reading the Rose Bowl wins and lost record makes me realize just how much I hate USC and the fact that they've dominate the B1G and have the most Rose Bowl wins with 26. It should also be noted that Michigan joins Wisconsin as the only B1G teams to lose three consecutive Rose Bowl games. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Geraffi's picture

Yep, the rose bowls stats are ugly, but it's a home game for Pac 10/12. The overall wins and losses include the (ehem) vacated win. I watched the game, therefore it happened. 

BME_Buckeye's picture

Double post means double mint gum

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

sir rickithda3rd's picture

the ncaa can try to take the vacated games away but we all know they happened.

mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

M Man's picture

Good summary.  Such a great rivalry.
I know that Michigan places perhaps too much emphasis on Yost's years, and I can appreciate your views on that.  It was a historical period, and Michigan a historical power, in making college football what it was.  Champions of the West.
Without dragging that notion out too much (this is mostly for the provocative consideration by the fans of the only two-time Heisman Trophy winner); there is a guy who likely would have won three Heismans, if there had been such an award before 1934.  Willie Heston may just be the best runner Michigan ever produced.  Better than Heisman-winner Harmon.  Better than anybody that anybody can think of.  Knute Rockne of Notre Dame (the Gipper's coach, who saw every good football player of his long era, including the incomparable Red Grange) said that Heston was the best he ever saw.
The great Willie Heston pointed out in a team photo by Yost:

 

BuckeyeVet's picture

Hey M Man - Do you know what the 590 - 0 painted on the football in the picture signifies? Curious if you or anyone knows. Love old pictures like that. I checked and that number doesn't match up with any of the 4 seasons he played at UM, although his 1901 team outscored their opponents 555 - 0. Whew!
Also, the rules seemed a little more lax then - I saw that he played 3 or 4 years in college at San Jose while getting his teaching degree, before playing 4 years at UM.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Geraffi's picture

Looking at the pic closely, I think it says 550-0. 

BuckeyeVet's picture

I think you're right! Thanks for the sharp eyes. Guess that would be the 1901 team.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx