From Inside the SEC (COMO)

builderofcoalitions's picture
December 3, 2013 at 12:19a

I live in Columbia, Missouri and have for the past 8.5 years. We moved here for my wife's career. She's faculty at the University of Missouri (Mizzou) and I've worked there as well for the past 6.5 years. It's an alright place -  Midwestern college town and all that. However, I have missed Ohio and Ohio State football ever since moving here.

People are dedicated to their Missouri Tigers, but they don't know much outside of Cardinals baseball. I often found myself in exchanges where it would turn out that I knew more about their football team than they did. I knew that Mizzou beat Woody Hayes in Columbus, but I never mentioned it. I knew that Ohio Stadium was well over 50% larger than Faurot Field when most MU fans thought their stadium sat over 80,000 instead of the 60-65,000 it seated at the time. 

And the tailgating. I was warned that things got a little wild on football Saturdays. They had no idea what Lane Avenue is like from sunrise to sunset on game day in Columbus. Hell, they're still fighting here to get one street shut down for the games, but downtown businesses don't want it to scare away customers.

My first Mizzou game was witnessing Vince Young drop 63 on them. My dad and I walked out during the third quarter - something we would have never considered at OSU - in order to beat the crowd to Booches. (Google it.)

This is a fine place, but they have no idea what college football is all about.

I assumed after this last weekend that the town would be abuzz with possibility. Mizzou is on the cusp of their first conference championship in 44(!) years. Nope. That's not what I've heard all day on the local sports talk radio. Instead, they are bashing Ohio State. The story on the air is that the B1G is a crap conference and OSU has eked out wins all season long. Additionally, they are the Rodney Dangerfields of college football and deserve some respect.

Mizzou has had a nice season, but there are other things at play. For one, there is a lot of resentment over MU being shunned by the B1G TWICE. Most fans thinks this was a knock on the athletics, but anyone involved in academia realizes this might be an equal blow to research and academic standing.

The second thing is that Mizzou's success has proven the SEC's vulnerabilities. Here is a middling Big 12 team that has dominated the conference in just its second year. Honestly, last season was an aberration for the program. While they were not as good as they are this year, last year's squad was good enough to make a bowl, but injuries decimated their chances just to be competitive. Still, this year's success shows that the SEC isn't all that far ahead of every other conference.

What is really sad is that the fans have had a taste of success with a potential Mythical National Title within sight and they're already looking past this weekend. This happened in 2007 when they beat #1 Kansas(?) to claim the top spot heading into the Big 12 championship where Oklahoma destroyed them. I'm afraid that they'll miss the true success in possibly winning the SEC if they don't get a shot in Pasadena. Hell, the team might even look past this weekend's game and blow a shot at winning the conference.

Either way, there's a lot of trash talk being thrown OSU's way. Of course, they think Ohio State fans have no idea what's being said. No one challenges the assertions that Mizzou deserves a chance to win the national title. They believe Ohio State is and will always be overrated. They are certain that the 7-year title run of the SEC has magically made them indestructible by proxy. It's a lot of fun to watch.

What I'm thankful for is a community of Buckeye fans like the one at this site who have been through this all before. There's no need to get upset with the BCS. Win all your games and you don't have to worry.

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Maestro's picture

From the words of a patient of mine today who happens to have a nephew on the MU team.
"Man y'all got lucky this weekend."  He knows I am a Buckeye fan.
"If we (MU) get left out of the national championship after winning the SEC it just won't be fair."
I just grin and listen. 

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TMac's picture

The knowing smile of one who's been there!

ONE Not Done!

Johnny_Buck71's picture

I live in St. Louis. The amount of crap I suddenly take just minding my own business is ridiculous each time I don OSU gear. Two years ago, they couldn't care less about OSU. The conversations were cordial and more often then not someone would mention us destroying them in the 90's. Now it's as though they all received some sort of gene replacement and feel SEC entitled. Whereas this town, and by extension Columbia, are very smart baseball fans, they are idiot football fans. I would love to remind them of their place in football. I like to point out to Mizzou fans that their success only makes my argument, the SEC isn't that good this year. They just give the confused puppy dog look. 

A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore. - Yogi Berra

WC Buckeye's picture

With you there - I live on the west coast, and the PAC12 football ignorarrogance is astounding. Not quite to the SEC level I saw while I lived in Atlanta, but still quite humorous - it's as though the past USC successes (and recent Oregon successes) have lifted all conference members. And, I just have to say it - Cal and Colorado suck.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

teddyballgame's picture

Urban started the SEC's streak so it's fitting that he shall be the one to end it.

Hovenaut's picture

An interesting look from the Mizzou perspective.

Somewhat telling they would expend focus and energy on OSU bashing than on supporting their own team - near the end of what could be it's finest season in history.

I say it everyday, glad to be a Buckeye.

Thanks for sharing, BOC.

MN Buckeye's picture

And I am glad that we have EZE (and family) on board at OSU and not MO.

TMac's picture

I've been to games across the B1G, and to the Swamp 30 years ago.  They all celebrate any football Saturday as a special event. It's quite interesting to me that a major college community would be quite so uninvolved. 
Academics, Athletics, the Fans, Maybe Mizzu is just Meh. 

ONE Not Done!

BierStube's picture


The story on the air is that the B1G is a crap conference and OSU has eked out wins all season long.

I will take eked out wins over eked out losses any day of the week and twice on Saturday!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

Maceyko's picture

The point I love is yet again stated here - a mid-tier team comes into the mighty SEC and dominates (again).  The SEC is not as good as everyone wants to think.  This is mostly a myth strategically created by ESPN because of their business plan.  If the SEC teams are all ranked highly and then they beat each other up they get to remain ranked highly while a "weak" Big Ten isn't recognized and so it's easier to discard OSU or any other team from a conference like this due to their "weak" schedule.  Of course it's "weak" when you don't fairly compare teams!  It's brilliant how they have helped create this false sense of superiority and how people have actually bought in.  I remember this story about this guy from Germany who also was able to create this crazy fan base.....well that didn't turn out so well.

Oyster's picture

So all these years of pathetic bowl performances by B1G teams is a figment of my imagination?  Sorry, the record speaks for itself.  Until the B1G wins at least half of their bowl games, which would be an improvement from years past, the notion of the B1G being weak is not just perception, it's reality. 

"Scrolling hurts my finger"

(and FitzBuck was clearly the winner)

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Do a little research, my friend, and you will find that the Big Ten over the last ten years is NOT at the bottom of bowl performance.  In fact, I believe we are right there with the SEC.
Hmmmm.  Perception, eh?

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Oyster's picture

B1G Bowl Records                                          SEC Bowl records                                
06    2-5                                                       6-3
07    3-5                                                       7-2
08    1-6                                                       6-2 
09    4-3                                                       6-4
10    3-5                                                       5-5
11    4-6                                                       6-3
12    2-5                                                       6-3
One year at or above .500.                             One year at .500 

"Scrolling hurts my finger"

(and FitzBuck was clearly the winner)

Go1Bucks's picture

The Big 10 is 19 - 19 vs the SEC during the BCS era.
That is reality.
... and OSU has the most BCS Bowl wins of any team in the FBS
That is reality.

Go Bucks!

ChazBuckeye's picture

Allow me to clear this up for you Oyster...

This was a Gator fan after OSU's coach came back home;-)

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Oyster's picture

If that is a Gators fan, why does it say suck on the plate?  My whole point above is that the national perception of the B1G is based on their national performance each year during the bowls.  When you see the running tally of W's and L's by conference, and the B1G has a losing record, what does everyone think?  One year above .500 since 06? 

"Scrolling hurts my finger"

(and FitzBuck was clearly the winner)

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Paterno was from Brooklyn.

osupolo's picture

I see what you did there

Maceyko's picture

Nice Scarlet - nice.  Of course we need to win bowl games Oyster - my point is the same that this guy makes:
Great read if you have the time.

Davep160's picture

I still remember the snot bubble coming from Korby Jones's nose after Andy Katzemoyer hit him.

Bucksfan's picture

Ohio State is 10-1-1 against Missouri all-time...most were blowout wins.  There is really only 1 SEC program who has this kind of record against the Buckeyes, and it's Missouri.  Texas A&M is 0-4 against the Buckeyes.  Both are now somehow conference superpowers in the "best football conference in America?"
It's not just improbable, it's f'ing stupid.  If Missouri played Nebraska or Oklahoma right now, the Tigers probably lose by 3 TDs.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Eked out wins?  OSU has won exactly 2 games by less than 10 points.  One of those games they were up 17 in the 4th and weren't in any serious danger of losing.  Doesn't sound like eking out all year to me. 

Class of 2010.

jmw's picture

"Eked out wins?" ---that's the ironic part (to the infinite degree) that the national media is conveniently neglecting because Auburn is two absolutely miraculous plays from being a 3-loss team. 


unknownmusketeer's picture

The big thing for me is that I want the Speed argument to die. Stanford stonewalling Oregon pretty much threw that argument out the window.

GregB's picture

One nice side affect of A&M and Mizzou joining the SEC is that we just got 2 more wins against SEC teams in our bowl history. 1999 and mid 80s with Spielman and Co. we played and beat A&M pretty handily