The spoils we've had & where your mind is at - QB

Bucks's picture
March 28, 2011 at 12:47p
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  • Rex Kern
  • Stanley Jackson
  • Joe Germaine
  • Troy Smith
  • Craig Krenzel
  • Terrelle Pryor
  • ... Shane Falco (Had to, deal with it!)

I'm sure there will be additional names in your mind for one reason or another. That is a list for me that represents a buttload of diversity. It also represents my age. 'Baby Face' Germaine & Stan 'The Man' Jackson were in my teenage years. Krenzel was in my early twenties. Troy. Didn't know what to put after Troy there. Seems it speaks for itself. Rex Kern & the 'Super Sophmores'. TP, countless games won on his ability.

Everyone has their own mental list. We all take with us a memory of who we believed in. Who we wish could've been around longer. That particular player or core, represented something special to you. For me, there will probably never be another '02. A generation a bit older might say there would never be another '68. Each holds the line against the other. I might also say I was lucky enough to be a part of the tOSU experience that not many have in regards to intimacy with a team (Germaine/Jackson Era). I remember going to Mill Run as a 'youngin' for a team movie. I remember the sidelines. I remember sitting in on a recruiting visit ... It amazed me to sit in a upside down Buckeye helmet. It amazed me that Scott's father (Walt) was used to this type of thing. I also remember that terrible FG game against a certain state up north on the visit above. The rainy atmosphere also hindered the girl I was hoping to develop a relationship with, something I still haven't buried the hatchet w/Mother Earth on. Walt still reminds me of how down I was after. Those QB's were MINE! I knew they could put it together for this game. My best friends Dad was their coach for freaks sake, they have to win! Whoops, not true. People are mortal & make mistakes. Things happen out of your control.

 

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When you think of what you have loved/hated in regards to tOSU Football, QB is involved with your top list. We are very obviously in a transition (Not sure I can call it a transition at this point) to a more mobile system. Looking at the progression over the years makes it clear that our aim is to continue the Troy, Pryor mold. I don't link those two names as in they are the same (So don't try it yourself!), but the obvious steer towards QB mobility is evident. Times change and our own sport evolves. Efficiency vs Mobility. The grail is someone who can do both, without issue. Military personnel will tell you that regardless of what you've seen in games ... you can't actually run & gun. It's not Xbox. It isn't a simulation. There are issues that arise.

 

So the question is, do you want a mobile QB who makes the plays with his feet first or do you want one who makes them with his arm first? Is there a happy medium? Did you love a dual QB system? Hate it? Want someone who can make receivers superstars? Don't care, get the down? Eliminating the '02 championship as a qualifier, just based off games and you, would you prefer Krenzel over TP? Hell no, TP any day of the week?

 

(P.S. - Again, planned to bring this up previously on just preference and not the crap that has started since. Hoping we can not flame out into goofy territory)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

Ian_InsideTheShoe's picture

Good questions. Krenzel could get the ball to his receivers, was smart enough not to make dumb plays, and if he REALLY had to, would scramble for it. He was a good QB, solid. TP is a freak of nature, but he spends too much on raw power, making it seem like he doesn't understand that QB's need touch on the ball, and even when running it. He tries to be the hero, without actually going through the steps to do it, which shows his immaturity of not listening to the coaches, which in turn makes it frustrating as a fan to watch.

johnblairgobucks's picture

Well...Pryor is 2-1 in BCS Bowl Games, 3-0 vs Michigan and has 3 Big 10 titles.....not bad.

I love watching the Pryor that tucks it, and runs (to score) not the Pryor that runs to the sideline skipping out of bounds seemingly inches shy of the tv imposed yellow first down marker, when the defender is still 10 feet away.  That said, the game is moving fast, and I have never worn Pryors shoes, so, I shouldn't be critical.

After watching watching 3 years of the Belisari Experiment and 4 games of the Zwick Offensive, I'd be happy with anything above that. 

I am excited to see Guiton and Miller duke it out for time.  Bauserman may end up the man, but in regards to your question, I prefer a QB that can run and pass. It's easier on my nerves.  OSU's offense seems predictable at times.  After getting held to 1 yard gains off tackle 1st and 2nd down, it seems like opposing defenses know what's coming, and the only thing we've got, is a QB who can make something work that wasn't put  on the caulk board.

 

btalbert25's picture

I really don't think Miller is going to come out and start as a true Freshman this year.  He may get some PT, but I think it's between Bauserman and Guiton.  I think Guiton will be the QB in the end, especially when an offensive line that may take a while to hit it's stride with key losses and Adams being suspended.  They'll need someone who can create things with his feet, and while Miller may or may not be the better option, you also want a guy who has been around for a couple of years and fully grasps the offense.  The only way I see Braxton starting is if he comes in and shows that even though he is green he presents a much better chance of winning than does anyone else.  Kind of like starting Pryor over Boeckman.  I'm not sure we'll see that here.

If our options were Bauserman or Miller, then I see Miller getting some playing time, but only after the try Bauserman first and the experiment doesn't work out.  Guiton is going to get first crack, and if he plays well, the job is his for 5 games.

Conroy's picture

I would love to see a first round talent NFL type pocket passer in the Scarlet and Grey.  Imagine a Jim Tressel offense with a great pocket passer you can murder you off of play action and murder defenses that stack the box to stop the run off of a three step drop...

Buckeye Black's picture

You would think that, but Tressel has always put the most athletic QB on the field.  The two drop back passers he's had have been terrible (Zwick) and mediocre (Boeckman).  Tressel wants the guy that can get the first down passing or running.

Conroy's picture

Well ya, but I think that's been more a product of the best talent Ohio State has had at QB being mobile guys more than anything else.

KenK's picture

Don't care for dual QB system; you either have a QB or you don't. I'd rather have a dual-threat QB, primarily to drive the passing offense, but capability to make plays running designed or not. Looking at yout list, I'll also take Tom Matte. 

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