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BuckeyeSaab's picture
August 30, 2010 at 11:29a
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There is a well established track record of wealthy WASP scions rebelling against their comfortable lives of privilege.  These “Trustafarians” often end up as jet setting self-absorbed leftists living a life of sequestered luxury all the while thumbing their noses at the very society that created the wealth they enjoy.  These people are, to say the least, annoying, but more importantly they are cliché.  Another rich white kid wearing a Che shirt?  How original.  But now what about rich black kids?  Not really something that we have much track record with but everyday we become a more integrated society and while the percentage still stinks more and more blacks are climbing up the ladder.

While a sample size of one a trend does not make it appears for one rich black son the rebellion took the form of Thug-Life and not Marxism.  The one that I speak of is Duron Carter, son of Ohio State and NFL legend, Cris Carter.  Duron was born after his father had already started his NFL career, so while the first few years in the NFL were a little rocky for dad, Duron was in fact born with a silver spoon up his ass.  By the time Duron enters high school his father is one of the highest paid NFL players and a future Hall of Famer, who, aside from aside form his on field heroics and built a security business with, as of 3 years ago, 25 locations!  Duron is the son of privilege, even if it’s not a standard old money blue blood line.

Now I know it might seem odd to claim that a Duron, following directly in his father’s foot steps by becoming a receiver at Ohio State, is a rebellious child but rebellion is not always at the meta level.  Duron is the child of well educated and intelligent parents, whose father one of the most well spoken ex-NLF starts to make the jump to TV analysis, and went to a private Catholic school.  Yet Duron seems to have pushed back against this breeding by self identifying with the street.  To hear him talk, to read his internet posts/tweets is to watch one trying ever so hard to prove they are “real”.

Stop trying to be something you are not.

Let’s look as some recent tweets;
Ungrateful niggas! Can’t do nothing 4 ppl!     4:03 AM Jun 18th  via UberTwitter

Niggas that get 21′d can’t say shit!!!!! If this was 2k the next niggas would be on the court now!!!! #celtics old shitty niggas     12:35 AM Jun 16th  via UberTwitter

RT @L_Anderson6: cavs fans please stop suckin on the celtics dick.. they whooped the cavs then they was sorry..now they sweet as fuck outta no where SMFH!!!!

@tysofly lol true… We will just stick 2 bein real then!     8:47 PM Jun 14th  via UberTwitter  in reply to tysofly

No doubt philosopher and theologian Saint Thomas Aquinas, namesake for your high school is ever so proud of his desire to, “stick 2 bein real”.  As, I imagine, are Duron’s parents.

Fort Luaderdale FL, Columbus OH, now Coffeyville. What's next, prison?

Thanks to Duron’s fascination of a street culture that deemphasize things such as, duty, education and commitment he will find himself plying his trade at the Coffeyville Kansas Community College.  Hopefully begin stuck in the middle of fucking nowhere, attending a community college with an enrollment of under 1,300, will be a catalyst for change.  It is a waste, and a shame to watch some one given so much, including the physical ability to be a wide receiver at an elite FBS program throw it all away over love of a vile culture that promotes violence and debases women.
Though Coffeyville worked as a spring-board for Ron Springs, 78-79 starting Ohio State tailback and Mike Rozier, the 1983 Heisman winner for Nebraska, I have my doubts to the likeliness Duron will make a comeback.  Ron and Mike were hungry young men that needed a little more time to bring up their grades.  Duron on the other hand has never known hunger and though having started with the grades, let his school work decline so rapidly that he was ruled ineligible to play before the season was even over.  I doubt we hear much noise from Duron as I suspect he has, in his heart, chosen an ignorant street culture that his father has nothing to do with as a method of establishing himself as a different person from his pops.  Someday he may change, but I suspect it will be long after college football is an option.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

INteresting that one of the root causes of the Thug Culture is a lack of Father Figures. yet, here is an example of one WITH the intact nuclear family and still falling down the shithole of thugdom.

Proof of one thing....Adolescents need to be cool is a strong pull. The adolescent's need to take the easy route is a sirens's call. (the mythological one, not the one in the hood). Duron Carter=Mo Clarett with different parenting.

Personally I think that being a father is more than "providing". I don't know what Cris' role was in his family structure although I could guess knowing something about what the professional athlete's life is like. Perhaps fear of getting your ass kicked by your old man is part of the equation. I know it worked for me.

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Poe McKnoe's picture

Bet you didn't see that coming when you opened up blogs to everyone.

Duron Carter is not thug life. He's the opposite of thug life. Thugs don't come from rich communities in Florida and drive corvettes. He may not have the most eloquent twitter account on the planet and he might not understand that you got to make the grade to play, but he's not rolling around CBus with a AK-47.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

I didn't mean to say he "is" a thug, merely that it seems he is emulating the image, to the point of not setting the correct priorities in his life.

And the post is all just an attempt to figure out why. After all when Clarrette made bad.... really bad, choices many people pointed at his "under-privileged" back ground as a root cause.

But what is the root cause of a guy making bad choices (though not nearly as bad) who had a very privileged up bringing? What would make you slack off on the grades when 100k people are wanting to cheer you on come fall?

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

he's 19.

what were you doing when you were 19?

I can tell you what I was doing when I was 19... even if those memories are a bit fuzzy.

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Irricoir's picture

I was in the Marine Corps, serving my country with pride. I had a father, although slightly abusive, that taught me consequences for my actions. I knew that if I did A then B would follow. I was taught to have goals and ambition. I was pushed to be competitive in all things not just sports. True enough, I was sheltered from the world and did not know how cruel it could be but I gained experience in mass upon joining the corps. I was training to be a first class marksmen. I was training for a future in the profession I wantedm to obtain. I was trying to be every example of what a young man should be. Responsible, dependable, and a man of principle. I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all SouthBay but the whole, "he's just a kid and kids mess up" argument is way overplayed. Children are like plants. They will grow into the direction the sun shines from every day. You don't keep the weeds away and they will take over the plant. Nourish them and they will stand vividly, a direct representation of the type of care given to them. Fail them, and you show the world how you contributed. Maybe, if Mr. Carter wasn't too busy with his profession, Duron wouldn't have been influenced into taking up with that abysmal culture. Parents can't be around there kids 24/7, but they can keep them busy and take away their luxuries. They can control what they wear and how they present themselves. The most important is to firmly impart on your children that there are consequences for their actions and to set the example for them. Accepting, money and letting your team down may not be the only negative example Chris has ever taught his son? I don't know..Really.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I'm not saying it's an airtight alibi, but it's got to play a factor. Not everyone has their shit together at 30, let alone 19. I'm sure that growing up having your dad be the man, and then garnering some praise for your athletic abilities can add up to an inflated sense of self, which again, would be a lot for anyone to handle especially at that age. Hopefully this CC experience will be humbling, but all this "thug life" bullshit and those type of comments have no place here. No one says "hick life" when a country kid messes up, do they?

and the example of twitter posts? give me a break. twitter is like taking the worst of people and the internet and putting it under a microscope.

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Irricoir's picture

Yeah I see your point brother, and it depends on what part of the country your from. I never witnessed any claim to fame over people being pleased with themselves that they were rednecks, in Ohio. In Alabama, they wear that tag with pride. (And tee-shirts to reinforce that statement) So yeah, people in essence do gloat about their origins. That was another lesson taught to me. I would always represent my family in all I did even when I was away from them. I was told I would wear my clothes and my hair a certain way. Every thing I did or said was a reflection of who I was and what I was about. I respect your, what I assume are, left wing opinions and I concede that I am pretty conservative in mine. I do see some of your points man.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

We're fairly similar actually. I was born and raised in Ohio, my father was a Vietnam vet and I come from a blue collar working family. We're on the same page that where ever you go you're representing more than just yourself. I always have my hair cut, neat, etc. pants aren't falling of my ass etc.

Although I consider myself to be "in the middle" most people that know me would consider me to be conservative. I'm just not with the 1 strike and you're out crowd is all. If that were the case I wouldn't be where I am, or doing what I am doing, etc.

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Irricoir's picture

Good to know. Yeah I am not writing Duron off just yet but he has to prove himself much like Pryor has. I always thought Pryor was arrogant and thought more of himself than he should. I really disliked his comments about "College being just like Highschool", the whole "Everyone kills people" and him stating Penn State was just too country. I didn't know him personaly but reading what his teammates have said about him recently and even his own admission, I assumed correctly that he was what he was. They also state that he is a changed man and his interviews are better though they do seem somewhat "Rehearsed". Duron may go either direction, who knows but I personaly don't offer people a long rope.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

It's a different time, and I'm not much older than any of these guys really. But with High Schoolers doing the whole "which hat" thing on national TV, etc it's easy to see where they get the idea that this kind of stuff is OK.

The "everybody does it.." remarks I just took as "everybody messes up" and the "kills ppl, steals from you, steals from me" as examples of things ppl can do, Ill-advised, but I still think that was taken out of context or without further explanation.

mike vick eyeblack is never ok though

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Irricoir's picture

True, it was taken out of context but nevertheless, it was something he should have been smart enough not to say. Immaturity does spew poor decisions like you say, but I sense he is rebounding nicely from those.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

put a 19-20 year old in front of the bright lights and news cameras and that's what happens. that's why coach limited his time with the media after that.

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BuckeyeSaab's picture

Come spend some time down my area around Wieland Park and you can see just how bullshit thug life is and considering a certain recruit that is lucky to be alive after getting shot, twice, I would argue that a conversation regarding "street" culture does have a place here.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Dude, I used to work in downtown LA, rode the blue and green line metro trains through the shit of the shit. I don't need to go to Y'Town...

I don't think anything Duran has DONE makes him a thug.

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BuckeyeSaab's picture

I was working my way through college when I was 19.

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SouthBayBuckeye's picture

Same here. Two jobs. Neither one of us gets a cookie.

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poguemahone's picture

I hardly think Duron Carter's use of the n-word connotes a dedication to "thug life". I think this is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Also: I recommend toning down the political content of this post. Making vague, simplistic statements about the source of people's political beliefs is a guaranteed way to piss them off.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

Well for all the trust fund kids living a life of idle comfort whom I have offend are more than welcome to take me to task.

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poguemahone's picture

So if your parents have money, you can't be left of center?

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

this thread will be the end of the internets as we know it

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BuckeyeSaab's picture

Of course you can. I make no statement that people should, or should not, be leftist. However, I can also site them as an example of kids shunning their back ground.

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Denny's picture

Like, you're gonna web-site them?

Taquitos.

Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

If it walks like a duck......

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Matt's picture

The inevitable politicization of 11W will make our Whig forefathers ashamed, so very ashamed.

Denny's picture

Dude, The Whigs are good at rock and roll.

Taquitos.

DallasTheologian's picture

Actually, if your talking about Aquinas's view of the eucharist he would be all about stickin 2 bein real

Matt's picture

Oh no way, I just saw the photos, I slept with that chick who has the thug life tatoo. Check out her great rack, amirite? She must have gotten a haircut since we hung out, though.

Wait a second...

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

i bet you wish that all you had done with her was sleep.

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Doc's picture

That young lady in the above picture is someone's daughter. She has obviously made some poor choices in her life, taking a topless picture being the worst, but we should still be polite;).

"Say my name."

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I think that's a dude btw..

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Doc's picture

Really!? My therapist is going to have a field day over this one!

"Say my name."

Denny's picture

I award you no points, and may Buddha have mercy on your soul.

Taquitos.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

I always thought of Duron as more of a fan of Master P than Tupac. Make em say uuhhhhhh na-nah n-nah.

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Doc's picture

I think it is a kid that had a relatively easy life, up to this point, not doing the work needed to have the priveledge to play for tOSU. He prolly had a sense of entitlement and found himself behind the eight ball. Not having the correct study skills got him a transfer to Kan's Ass. He will not be back IMHO. His over use of the word "nigga" is like us white folk calling each other "buddy". Nothing more, nothing less.

"Say my name."

Irricoir's picture

I find that an offensive word regardless of how it is phrased or how it is spelled. I don't call my "Buddies" Honky. If I were a black man I highly doubt I would use that word and cringe when I heard another use it. I cringe now.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

SouthBayBuckeye's picture

agree, ugly ugly word no matter who says it or how it's "meant".

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Doc's picture

Agreed, but young black men use the word as a term of indearment. Secondly, Honky, to me has no negative connotation. Neither does cracker. I have had this conversation with a black person before. They believe that calling each other "nigga" is nothing, but Whitey using the term is totally different. My argument was why use the word at all?

To me Duron is a want to be gangsta. That is why he uses the "word" so freely.

"Say my name."

Irricoir's picture

Can't argue with that. Really, would anyone wanting to put the past behind them want to continue using that terminology considering it origins? Indearment sounds kind funny to me. Maybe it is something I don't really understand because it has never directly effected me. The facts that I have based on history give me all of the reason I need to dislike it.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

My point!

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Doc's picture

I never knew Tupac liked fish sticks;)

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BlueBayou's picture

Just a test to see if commenting in an old thread would really bring it to the top since it was mentioned in the voting and commenting bugs thread.  Just grabbed one of the oldest I could get.  As a side note, I noticed nobody in the comment section has any votes.  I guess this is also before 11W added voting.  Feel free to take the chance to vote now I guess.