Pryor by the Numbers

Buckeye's picture
November 16, 2010 at 9:30a
20 Comments

There are more than a few Terrelle Pryor detractors out there, but consider the numbers:

 

According to ESPN.com, Pryor is on pace for:

2,563 yards passing with 26 TDs and 10 interceptions, and a completion percentage of 67%. That would put his QB rating at 166.4. Additionally, Pryor already has 512 yards rushing with four rushing touchdowns, and one receiving touchdown.

 

The year Troy Smith won the Heisman Trophy (2006):

2,541 passing yards with 30 TDs and six interceptions, and a completion percentage of 65%. His QB rating was 161.91. He had 204 rushing yards for one touchdown.

Troy Smith had Tedd Ginn Jr. Beanie Wells, Antonio Pittman, and Anthony Gonzalez.

 

The numbers are close, and in some areas, Pryor will pass Troy Smith (or already has). Everyone considers Troy Smith a hero, while people constantly criticize Pryor and say that he should switch positions and play wide receiver.

Are people too tough on Pryor?

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TLB's picture

Not too tough, just expected to see more development and consistency. 

Buckeye's picture

I'd argue if you look at his numbers, he's shown consistent development and consistency to this year, where he's arguable a top 10 QB in the nation.

Jason Priestas's picture

He's having a great year, but what concerns me sometimes is that if OSU is down 5 with a minute to play, does anyone have confidence in the guy to take the team 80 yards for the win yet?

Buckeye's picture

That's an interesting point. Outside of Wisconsin his freshman year, we don't really see him bring the team back much. Even that drive was fairly lucky, a fumble that OSU recovered saved that game.

I would argue he hasn't had the chance very often. He would have got a ton of credit for the Texas Fiesta Bowl had the defense not let Colt McCoy lead them back. One thing Pryor often does, and doesn't get credit for, is dominate a team wire-to-wire like Oregon or Penn State last year. Obviously, credit the OSU defense for stopping ORegon last year. But also credit Pryor for out-gaining Oregon in total yards by himself.

I guess my answer would be this - when he has floundered at the opportunity? USC last year comes to mind, but it's a rare situation to be in. Again, let's not forget how he played against Texas when the game was on the line.

It seems when OSU has an all-systems-failure, he takes the fall. As the quarterback, this happens, but it's not always right.

Jason Priestas's picture

Yeah, USC last year is what sticks in my mind (also Penn State as a frosh, but he was so young back then).  He's noticeably better this season, but his final series of downs against USC last year were painful to watch.

iball's picture

The question is really who's better?

Ginn or Posey

Gonzo or Sanzo

Beanie or Boom

The answers pretty clear.

Besides, Troy came in as a virtually unheard of athlete and started out returning kicks and running the ball. Could you imagine if the 06 team had Irrizary and Guilford?

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Buckeye's picture

Totally agree. I'd love to see what Pryor would do with those weapons, and Smith's offensive line.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I might take Sanzo over Gonzo save for "the Catch"

TLB's picture

C'mon.  He's not playing with Minnesota or Michigan State or Iowa or Wisconsin talent.

I think to play QB you have to have some instincts that can't be taught.  I don't believe he has those.

He's a good athlete though.

Buckeye's picture

That's fair. For you, he just doesn't pass the eyeball test. Understandable. I guess I was just pointing out he's so over-criticized throughout the local fan base and media...and he's playing great football. Even as a big supporter of Pryor, I never would have guessed his numbers looked like this (until somebody pointed it out to me on Twitter).

cal3713's picture

I don't agree... I mean, he's the 5th best QB in the nation (according to NCAA passer ratings).  He's not a Heisman trophy winning player and has shown some inconsistencies, but still... if you have to select an anonymous QB for the season and can be guaranteed top 5 in passing efficiency, every coach and every team would take that player.
 

buceyeesbirro1's picture

Okay, lets all be honest here! TP was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of HS, he was highly touted, and some thought he was gonna win the Heisman and win multiple Nat Championships, but honestly I dont think hes ever been comfortable in the offense, actually his numbers would be out of this world and he may have won the Heisman or Nation Champ if he'd went to Mich, yes Mich!!!!!! cause he hasn't done really anything that has compared to what everyone in this small town figured he'd be, lets face it he's predictable....if he's ever in a pressure situation on the field he'll line up in the spread and act like he's gonna pass but run..he just doesnt look comfortable and its been what? 3 years? If a team stuff's the run and blitzes outside in  on third down....."its curtains batman" OVERATED

Buckeye's picture

I think this is a bit of an oversimplification.

You say: "If a team stuff's the run and blitzes outside in  on third down....."its curtains batman"

Yet he's only lost five games as a starter is ranked top 15 in every major statistical category in college football. If it were this simple to stop him wouldn't more teams be doing it? Perhaps he would win a title and Heisman elsewhere, in a more gimmicky offense tailored to his skills. However OSU's offense gives multiple looks (I form, single back, gun, pistol, etc), and will prepare him better if he hopes to be a QB on the next level.

btalbert25's picture

Outside of Troy, in the last 20 years or more, who has been a better QB?  I'd take TP over virtually any of the other QB's.  Posey and Sanzenbacher are great weapons to be sure, but TP doen't have that super star or series of superstars that other OSU QB's have had.  Yes, Ohio State always has talented players, but the fact of the matter is TP doesn't have Eddie George.  He's not throwing to Holmes, Glenn, Jenkins, Ginn, Boston, or Gonzo. 

I don't know if people don't like him because he didn't come in and dominate from the start or what.  However, if you look at other top programs, I think most would die to have TP.  He's really good, and I can't wait for another season of watching him lead the Buckeyes.

btalbert25's picture

Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor has been a much better pocket passer this season, especially in Big Ten play. Pryor has attempted more than 76 percent of his passes in Big Ten play from within the pocket and completed 70 percent of them with nine touchdowns, earning him a passer rating of 170.9.

Denny's picture

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TLB's picture

If I don't like him as a QB, am I a Fake Buckeye?

JakeBuckeye's picture

The thing I don't like about your opinion of him is that almost every football related thing you post on here has a dig on Pryor in it. Even if it is completely unrelated you will have to get your little dig in there.

You saw what Pryor did yesterday. He executed three times when we absolutely needed it yesterday. The first ended up being one of the worst drops I've ever seen, the second on a season-on-the-line 4th down, and the third on a "The Catch" esque play to Sanz.

TLB's picture

Fair enough.  You disagree with me.

The drop was bad.  2nd worst in recent yeares behind Robiskie.

He did a nice job of running.  That is what he does best, so why not call more of them?

He throws a decent deep ball, but the short ones are usually an adventure.

Perhaps I am tired of all the homers who think just because he is our QB he is the best.  He isn't, but I still want him to do well for our team.

Buckeye's picture

There's an interesting debate to be had here about Tressel's responsibility as a coach. Most fans argue his first responsibility is to win football games, and therefore he should tailor the offense to Pryor's skills.

However, it Tressel promised Pryor (and one reason he committed) that he would help develop him into a QB for the next level. He does this for all players. He teaches them to be better players and better people.

The job of a college is to prepare students for their careers. By running so many different looks in the offense, he's putting Pryor in a position to try playing QB at the next level. One of the reason he gets top recruits is because Tressel knows how to put players in the NFL.

Could we run Pryor more? Absolutely. It would be easy to do. But this is one of the reasons Pryor came here, and there's no reason to betray that promise now.

I also think it gives the potential to unlock the natural gifts which he has in the passing game. Already we're seeing Pryor show improvement in accuracy and decision making. Consider what he could do next year if he continues to improve in those areas. A top level passer, top level running, and top level athlete. In the long run, Pryor has rarely lost as it is, so it’s not as if this offensive style has been costly in the loss column.