Pryor 2008 vs Miller 2011 Final

Alex's picture
January 10, 2012 at 1:36p
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Player Comp Att Comp % Yards TD INT YPA YPC QB RTG RUSH YDS AVG TD Team Overall Record
Miller (12 games) 85 157 54.1% 1,159 13 4 7.38 13.8 138.4 159 715 4.5 7 6-7
Pryor (12 games) 95 152 62.5% 1,245 12 4 8.19 13.11 152.1 124 553 4.46 6 10-2
Pryor (13 games) 100 165 60.6% 1,311 12 4 7.95 13.11 146.5 139 631 4.54 6 10-3

I'd say overall, things look pretty similar, subtracting the records. The OSU staff put TP in a better position to make throws he was capable of making in 2008 compared to BM in 2011, which is why I think you see the more yards, higher YPA, higher QBR, and less rushes through 12 games.  

Pryor had a better supporting cast (as well as coach) and it clearly shows through the records and the stats. Things will go up for Miller and I think his second year and third year wil bothl be better than Pryor's, which is scary, because we are talking about a guy who would have broke almost all OSU QB records and has these awards on his list:

Awards and honors
2007 Hall Trophy (U.S. Army Player of the Year)
2007 PARADE National Player of the Year and All-American
2008 Pete Dawkins Trophy (U.S. Army All-American Bowl MVP)
2008 U.S. Army All-American MVP
2008 Big Ten Freshman of the Year (coaches)
2008 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (media)
2009 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Sportsmanship Award
2009 Big Ten Preseason Player of the Year
2009 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (media)
2010 Rose Bowl MVP
2010 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (coaches and media)
2010 Big Ten MVP runner-up
2011 Miller-Digby Award (Sugar Bowl MVP)

Comments

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Didn't he get the Sugar Bowl MVP as well? I know it doesn't "count"(even though the NCAA allowed him to play in it), but it still should be listed.

He'd probably also have the Fiesta Bowl MVP if they didn't try that two QB set up.

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Alex's picture

The Miller Digby is the Sugar Bowl MVP.....will put that in parenthesis

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Oh. I thought that might be it. I should have looked it up before posting that.

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JakeBuckeye's picture

I'd still take Pryor without all of the garbage that he carries.

SPreston2001's picture

Me too! Pryor was a freak of nature! 6'6 230lbs and ran a 4.3 40! Wow....

Buckeyejason's picture

I think he was measured at 6'4 3/4"..never the less he was good but I don't think there Is anything great about him.

The guy can't even sniff playing time for the garbage ass Raiders.

BUCKEYES BABY!

William's picture

He was 31-4 and as a starter. He constantly made up for our horrendous O-line and awful playcalling. There was a lot great about him, he was a BCS bowl MVP twice, few players have ever done that.

Buckeyejason's picture

I know the record. He was a Great ATHLETE..mediocre passer. He had top notch talent all around him since he stepped on campus. He was Phenominal in the Rose Bowl! I just don't think he was an all-time Great Big ten or All-American type QB...thats just my opinion. I've watched every game he's played at Ohio State. In the past few years alone I've seen MANY better QB's better than Pryor.

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Conroy's picture

Pryor was better, but that's not to take anything away from Miller.  He is a way better runner in terms of being able to cut and accelerate, and his mechanics are much more natural.  I think it's safe to say he should be pretty good, and playing in an offense that fits him like a glove will give him an edge Pryor never had.

JakeBuckeye's picture

In the most modest of terms, Pryor saved us from three years of complete and utter pain much like this year was. Maybe not to the 6-7 extent, but Ohio State would not have been very good 2008-2010 without Pryor. What he did escaping pressure was truly unbelievable, making our terrible offensive line competent enough to go 10-3, 11-2, and 12-1.

thorvath22's picture

That's an unfair conclusion,if Pryor wasn't here we could have had Tahj Boyd or even a completely different offense, you never know, Robby Shoenhoft could have been ok, we will never know.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Neither of those guys could have done what Pryor did escaping pressure. He was one of a kind in that sense. You saw it this year with a senior laden offensive line. Miller is an electric runner and still couldn't get away from the pressure that the line let by. Pryor (with the exception of Newton) is the only quarterback out there who could have performed as well as he did with as shitty of a group this has been for four years.

Alex's picture

Pryor saved Jim Bollman and the OL rear ends for those 3 years

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I think they would have been good, but not BCS game good.

Some Ohio State fans have forgotten how good TP was. I guess if we think of what could have been(2011-12 season) it would hurt more. lol

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SPreston2001's picture

I totally agree. We would have been ALOT worse under Boeckman & co! Pryor's athletic ability saved the day on many occassions lol. The dude had a TE body with the skills of a RB/WR lol. Pryor was strong as an ox and had a crazy stiff arm!