Report: Mack Brown to Step Down After 16 Years as Texas Coach

December 10, 2013 at 2:34p    by DJ Byrnes    
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Lean on me, friend

Mack Brown's employment status has long been the cause of speculation in Austin, Texas. Well, it looks like Mack Brown is ready to call it quits:

Chip Brown has broken news about Texas in the past, so there's no reason to doubt him now. And then there's this ominous tweet from another guy-who-would-know:

Now that the USC job has been filled, the Texas job would be the hottest job on the couching carousel. Tuscaloosa would implode if Saban takes his talents to Austin.


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stittracer99's picture

And they thought the burning couches in East Lansing were a riot, just wait and see what happens in Tuscaloosa.....

TilstheHun3's picture

I'm staying AS FAR away from Tuscaloosa as possible, considering Alaska, if this happens.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Chief B1G Dump's picture

The meltdown in Bamma over this would be one of the most LOLz producing events of all time.
 
Anytime they would try to talk about their program, the rebuttal would always be that theyre just a stepping stone job.

GoBucksToledo's picture

Bazinga!  Well done CBD!

DefendYoungstown's picture

NOT SO FAST MY FRIENDS!!!

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

TMac's picture

I would Love to see Tuscaloosa Implode!!

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Wouldn't mind seeing Little Nicky go there and implode.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

Doc's picture

Pleas, oh please let this happen.  Tuscalusa imploding along with the rest of the SEC would be cathartic.

"Say my name."

Buckeye1004's picture

As the Buckeye stuck in Oklahoma Hell, I would love to see Saban go to Texas.  It would suck the wind right out of the Sooner collective! 
 
Go Buckeyes! Beat Clemson!  O   H

One Bad Buckeye's picture

....aaaand kirby smart to Ohio State? :)

"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."

Calgarybuck's picture

Bama has more than a few Mid-west o-line recruites...Would love to see Urban go after a few...I DO and pray this happens, AFTER Dec 16, If Bama were to name Kirby Smart their new coach before the 16th it could hurt our chances with Raekwon immensely! 

TilstheHun3's picture

I honestly won't believe it until a contract is signed but this would be a seismic shift in college football, the biggest since Urban left Florida, took a vacation, and came to tOSU.
I'm not sure I really care whether this happens or not but it sure would be nice to not have to hear all the $EC rants daily... I wonder if the WWL will secretly throw a pile of $$$ his way to stay at Bama.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

OSUBias's picture

Texas has more money than God; if that's what it comes down to, he is gone.

Shitter's full

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

Dude. OSU has more money than God and the rest of the universe combined.  What did we spend on athletics last year?  100 million?
But your Texas point is still valid of course.

TennesseeBuckeye's picture

If I knew how to edit I would have cut it down to Black Gold, Texas Tea

I may not be able to outsmart too many people, but I can outwork 'em.
Woody Hayes

Bucksfan's picture

I don't particularly understand leaving Alabama for Texas.   I saw an interview where Saban, himself, said repeatedly that he's not leaving and that he's too old to leave now.  But even beyond that, he said that his biggest coaching regret was when he said publicly that he was not leaving LSU and then left.
Unless he really is the slimiest, shittiest, and downright two-faced asshole we all like to think he is, there is no way he's going to Texas.

chitown buckeye's picture

See LSU, Dolphins then re-read the first part of your last sentence... 

"I'm having a heart attack!"

Bucksfan's picture

I'm well-aware of LSU, that's why I mentioned it.

chitown buckeye's picture

I know, I was just trying to be a smartass because I believe he is that bad. Money hungry, always looking for the next best thing.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

LS who? I'm not aware of any legitimate team by that name, so I hate them because I don't understand them.

TMac's picture

Bama and Texas both paid about 5.3mil for 2013 to their HC. Texas Athletics has the most revenue in the NCAA - so how big a bump do they need to make to lure Saban away, 1 or 2 million? Will be worth every penny if they end up as perennial playoff participant. 

NC_Buckeye's picture

I think Saban-bot is largely guided by logic parameters. His salary script has a high priority in his sub-routines.

BrewstersMillions's picture

For me its a legacy thing not money. He'll get plenty of dough from UT if he does go there but he's already won at two College Football Blue Bloods. Winning at a third might cement his legacy as the greatest college coach that's ever lived. In my opinion he's already in the team photo but a title or two at UT and I think he'd be peerless.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

AndyVance's picture

That's my read, too. Saban doesn't need the money, although money is a powerful motivator even for the ultra-rich (granted, big-time college football coaches are just normal rich, not ultrarich). For a guy like Saban, the chance to do what has never been done and what will likely never be done again - win multiple titles at three schools - is much more of a challenge, and he just seems like the guy who might be getting bored in his current gig, and looking for something to get fired up about again.

TennesseeBuckeye's picture

He has ants in his pants, can't stay in one place too long, also you can't win National Championships at 3 different schools unless you move to another school.

I may not be able to outsmart too many people, but I can outwork 'em.
Woody Hayes

wolfman's picture

Not to be nit picky, but which two "College Football Blue Bloods" are you talking about?  If you are including LSU, then I would have to disagree, but I understand your point.  Sorry for the rant, but being stuck here in Arkansas and listening to the occasional LSU fan brag about their "tradition" drives me crazy!!!  OSU, _ichigan, Bama, Texas, OU, Nebraska, and maybe a few others I am sure I am forgetting have "tradition".  LSU has a good program thanks to Saban with Les somehow keeping it going.
I know it wasn't your point and I am a little off topic, and it wasn't directed at you, but I feel a little better now!  (Back to my glass of beer now....)

BrewstersMillions's picture

15th in over all wins and three national titles. I agree they aren't on the same level as Bama, OSU, or Notre Dame, but they are a premier college football program.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.

Hoody Wayes's picture

AARP + college football = Austin (Upscale. Less pressure. More $.) 
 

northcampus's picture

I see a few reasons for him to leave.
1.  Moving to Austin would present a new challenge for Saban.  If he turns around the UT program and wins 2 titles in the next 5-8 years, he'll have another statue built to match the statue in Tuscaloosa.
2.  Austin is a better area to live in than Tuscaloosa (not even close). 
3.  The pressures of the UT program are lesser than at UA (easier conference, fans that have lives (focus) outside of football, a university that thrives on things other than football).
4.  Recruiting is easier (if you thought he could reel in players to UA, wait until he gets ahold of a program that can sustain itself with just players from the state of Texas).
5.  Eating at Stubbs in Austin crushes Dreamland in Tuscaloosa.
Some people get uncomfortable with comfort.  Just because one person walking into the same job every day for years is comfortable doesn't mean that same scenario wouldn't drive another person crazy.

btalbert25's picture

What is left to accomplish at Bama?   Some of these guys are absolute egomaniacs and want to prove they can resurrect a program anywhere they go.  He brought LSU back from how many years of irrelevance?  Sure he failed with the Dolphins but look what he has done with Bama.  Texas is a challenge.  They are in the toilet, but with their facilities and recruiting base it won't take long for someone like Saban to bring them back to the forefront.  The rebuilding job there would be much easier than it was at Bama. Winning a title at 3 separate schools and bringing them back from mediocrity would solidfy him as arguably the best coach in college football history, and it probably wouldn't be that hard for him to pull off at Texas. 

buckeyedude's picture

But I thought Saban said he would never leave Toledo, MSU, LSU, Miami, Alabama?

 

 

BuckGnome's picture

How will this affect the McMillan sweepstakes?

TMac's picture

Kirby Smart has the relationship with McMillan.   IF (Big Ifs) Saban leaves and if Smart is named HC I'd think Bama has a great shot at landing him. 

BuckGnome's picture

Very well could be.  The thing is, I really doubt the Saban-to-Texas situation gets resolved before McMillan announces.

Mad Thatta's picture

Texas denied it for now. Doesn't mean it won't happen eventually, depending on Board of Regents.
 

"No." - Rosa Parks

Denny's picture

"When I look for reliable and timely college football news, I look to Joe Schad" - nobody

Taquitos.

Mad Thatta's picture

Hey...I just...I mean...I just wanted to....
*hangs head in shame*

"No." - Rosa Parks

niblick's picture

well that makes it official, he's gone.

armybuckinva's picture

This is just an attempt by Texas to keep everything "hush hush".  

TMac's picture

DeLoss Dodds denied he was stepping down this year too.....

toad1204's picture

SI saying Mack Brown to stay.  Brown did a solid turn around but hard to believe he's going to be around long term given the friction generated earlier this year when things weren't going to plan. 
http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/10/mack-brown-texas-step-down-coach/

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

TilstheHun3's picture

From the source above:

Brown told Horns247‘s Bobby Burton in a text message that, “I haven’t seen (the) article. I’m in Florida recruiting. If I had decided to step down I sure wouldn’t be killing myself down here. I have not decided to step down.”

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

BuckGnome's picture

He didn't say he wasn't considering stepping down, only that he hadn't made a decision.
Brown's buddy appears to be in some hot water with the UT BoR.  Thursday will be interesting.

TilstheHun3's picture

Looks like you're right, it appears Brown is stepping down... The only question now is if Saban is a lock.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

Nappy's picture

Austin > Tuscaloosa
DO IT, NICKY!

Fan of bacon since 1981

buckeyedude's picture

Be careful what you wish for. I'd hate to see the Buckeye pipeline to the state of Texas dry up.

 

 

Bucks43201's picture

I've always liked Mack Brown, and will always remember how much respect he gave James Laurinaitis after the 2009 Fiesta Bowl. He went directly over to Laurinatis and I think it was Marcus Freeman after the game and consoled them. Before that game he was saying that those guys who came back for their senior year to win a championship --- that is what college football is all about. Classy guy.
 

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

AndyVance's picture

Ditto - I like Mack, too, and was actually hoping they'd win their final game (and by extension the Big XII title) so he could go out on a high note, on his own terms.

acBuckeye's picture

Not saying you guys aren't correct on the classy talk, but Mack has a long history of not taking blame when things don't go well within his football program. Over the last several years he's thrown multiple people under the bus both publicly and privately, and many times after a loss, would sit there at the podium and lay blame to his own players. Not what you want out of your head coach.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

The one time I don't blame him is when Colt McCoy, I'm not even sure what to call it, flopped  against Alabama in the 2009 NC Game.  No pain on his face.  No visible injury.  Just a mysterious numb shoulder.  Hmmm sounds dangerous.
Actually sound a lot more like a kid protecting his draft status by not getting pounded for 4 quarters by the Alabama defense.

Crimson's picture

Wow.  That's completely heartless.  I think he had a pinched nerve, giving him a limp arm.
Link.

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

I get that Colt is the kid next door, save dudes drowning in a lake, All American (in both personality and Quarterbacking abilities) guy and he is/was well respected.  But pinched nerve or not, that injury was just plain disappointing.  It was the first drive of the game if I remember correctly.  Then they had their own BauserHorn come in for his first full game all year, and that game just happened to be against Alabama. 
So yeah maybe he was actually seriously injured.  But heartless?  I have heard worse things said about Kirk Herbstreit or Mark May on this website in half a sentence than what I said about Colt.

Bucks43201's picture

You gotta love the narrative on ESPiN for Alabama.
They bring on Finebaum and others and the talking point for Alabama is that in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl they "didn't want to be there", and that's why they lost got thoroughly destroyed by Utah. So now, when they talk about Alabama playing Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl, they have a built-in excuse: Alabama didn't make it to the BCS Championship, therefore, they just weren't "interested". Now they'll have another excuse if Saban leaves. The excuses are comical. Finebaum is a p.o.s..

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Maestro's picture

Problem is OU sucks this year and has little to no shot to beat Bama.  

vacuuming sucks

Kaceybrown's picture

Texas: Mack Brown absolutely denies that he has stepped down. In fact, he just text messaged Bobby Burton of 247Sports. - Coachingsearch.com
 
on phone, can't link, my apologies
 

toad1204's picture

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

AndyVance's picture

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

More like Augustus Gloop the big ole greedy nincompoop.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

FitzBuck's picture

Saban wants his statue in Bama to wave at one in Texas?  
Seriously he would make Texas a monster and you don't want that sleeping giant up and motivated.  

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

If it happened the power would shift to OSU and Texas within the next 3 years as oppossed to OSU and Bama.  It would still be one formidable opponent.

Oakland Buckeye's picture

^This... At least he has to leave Alabama to build a monster... He would never have to cross Texas state line to build an even bigger juggernaut...

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

At some point you have to think that looking at Bama's depth chart with 3rd stringers who were 5* recruits, and then looking at whatever the hell Texas has going on right now, Saban would realize the enormity of the task he would be undertaking and just stay in Tuscaloosa.
Having said that, it would be funny to see news reports about Tuscaloosans chasing Texans out of town with shotguns and pitchforks, drowning their sorrows in can after can after can of chewing tobacco.

OSUStu's picture

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

741's picture

In all seriousness, why the hell would Saban leave Alabama for any other college coaching job? Let's all take a deep breath and relax.

niblick's picture

to be the guy with national championships at 3 major programs and undisputed best cfb ever

741's picture

Why not just rise to deity status with another National Championship at Alabama, continue to set the bar for highest paid coach in NCAA Football, and not have to start over with an entirely new pipeline of recruits?

Sean N's picture

Maybe he and his wife are sick of living in an illiterate redneck hellhole.

741's picture

That's not very nice, y'all.

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Bless ur heart darlin'.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Doc's picture

I think Texas will offer him $7,000,000.00/year.  Nicky can't pass up the opportunity to be the highest paid coach in America and moves to Austin.  In his second or third year he'll win another crystal football and will cement himself as the best ever.  I think Saban has an ego the size of Texas, he may as well go coach there.

"Say my name."

Poison nuts's picture

By a mile. By a million miles...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

40 Degrees North's picture

Saban will probably keep $250-400k/year more in Texas, which has no state or local income tax.

Nutbuck1959's picture

Any more about Texas to B1G? Or was that nonsense?
 

dan_isaacs's picture

Nope.  They make more money now than they would sharing TV revenue.

Dan Isaacs

Maestro's picture

The first domino was supposed to be Oliver Luck to Texas. Didn't happen. Obviously just a bunch of hot air so far.

vacuuming sucks

lamplighter's picture

My guess is if there were ever legs to that story, Satan to Texas would end it.
Texas to SEC?  God forbid

unknownmusketeer's picture

Has Coach Saban denied this recently? I know during the season when there was a possibility of winning a MNC that he denied it. Why not now? It has been on the airwaves for a few hours now.

red1jack's picture

If you put yourself in Saban's shoes, the move to Austin makes a great deal of sense for a number of reasons.
1. Legacy - As with all hyper-driven coaches, Saban has a sizeable ego.  That's not a criticism of the man, an ego is essential to leading a big time program.  You've got to want to do things that have not been done before, and winning a NC at three legendary programs (as has been commented by many already) would put him a class by himself.
And as a caveat on the legacy front, on some level it has to gall Saban that even with winning three national championships in four years, he is not the face of the Alabama program.  That title will always belong to The Bear, and it always will.  Yes, Saban has a statue, but so does Gene Stallings.  Bama fans love Saban right now, but they revere The Bear. . . . Saban's a hell of a guy to them, but Bryant is a god.  Alpha-egoists don't tend to enjoy living in anyone's shadow.
2. Respect / Reverence - This correlates to point #1 . . . and again, put yourself in Saban's shoes.  You've won three of the last four NCs . . . something unheard of in the modern game.  And yet, I guarantee you that Tuscaloosa sports talk has some nut job call in weekly talking about something that Saban or the coaching staff did that "ain't the way Bear used to do it".  We've had fans do it here with Urban compared to Tressel . . . now imagine hearing that if you've won three rings in four years.  That's got to get old.
If Saban were to head to Austin, he'd be awash in the glow of savior worship, and that fan base would swoon at his every word.  For a control freak like Saban (or most head coaches, to be honest) that has to be a bit intoxicating to think about.
3. Place to live - Austin vs. Tuscaloosa? Seriously? That's not even a contest.  And Saban isn't going to coach forever . . . at some point he and his wife are going to look for a nice place to LIVE, outside of football.  Austin would have it all over Tuscaloosa.
4. Easier path - Texas is a recruiting wonderland, and as the Longhorn's head coach, he'd be able to routinely get his pick of the state's bounty of talent.  Oh he'll still recruit nationally, but Texas high school talent in your back yard would be a step up from Alabama's talented but limited high school offerings.
Also, the Big 12 would offer him just the right amount of competition without the beat-your-brains-out-every-week schedule of the SEC.  If Texas goes undefeated in the Big 12, they'll be in the new playoffs . . . simple as that.  And what would he have to worry about year in and year out?  Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Baylor.  I think most coaches would take that over LSU, Texas A&M, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida.
I would strongly suspect that Saban has looked at Urban's move to the Big 10 and realized that Urban has carved himself out a more easily sustained path to the playoffs, year in and year out.
and lastly . . .
5. Money.  Yes, he's got a boat load of it already, but money is another competitive measuring stick for elite coaches, and I honestly believe that Texas is prepared to do something unprecedented . . . take Nick to $10M / year, or something equally nutty.  The Longhorn Network hasn't been the rousing success that was originally envisioned, and Texas's athletic department is huge, and revenue hungry.  If Texas football isn't firing on all cylinders, it causes significant fiscal issues for the organization.  And they've been losing market share in the state to Baylor, and more problematically, to Texas A&M.  Texas is used to being top dog, and what other bold stroke would immediately reassert their dominance in the Lone Star state?

avail31678's picture

Also, the Big 12 would offer him just the right amount of competition without the beat-your-brains-out-every-week schedule of the SEC.........I think most coaches would take that over LSU, Texas A&M, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida.

fixed this last sentence for you:
I think most coaches would take that over LSU, Texas A&M, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida.

buckeyecityterror's picture

I think most coaches would take that over LSU, Texas A&M, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida Vanderbilt.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Well done. I'd add one more:
#6 The barbecued brisket.

BTBuckeye's picture

I'm thinking $10m a year is the magic number. Why would Satan leave for anything less?

BuckGnome's picture

Listening to an Inside Texas guy on some podcast:  The expectation is that a BoR meeting on Thursday, Texas University President Bill Powers, who is very close to Brown, will appear embattled over the course of the meeting, and that will give cover to for Brown to resign.  Apparently word leaked early.
In any case, it is still the expectation, among these guys, that Saban will be announced as the next Texas HC at the team banquet, which I believe is Friday.
So take all that with a couple huge handlefulls of salt. 
Still, there is so much smoke with all of this it's hard to believe all of it is just a fabrication.  In some ways, it reminds me of all the Urban-to-Ohio State rumors that kept building and building throughout 2011, and we know how that turned out.
Here's the link to the Inside Texas Talk podcast FYI.  They get into the Brown and Saban rumors round the 9 minute mark.

okiebuck's picture

Austin or Tuscaloosa...no contest; and as an added bonus, no state income tax in Texas.
 

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

SilverState's picture

Posted this in the forum thread as well...
fwiw:
("TCU beat reporter for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram")

alust2013's picture

I'd like to see Texas close to the top again. Especially if it means the end of the constant jawing about the SEC.

...and Michigan still sucks.

Kurt's picture

Given the success of Big 12 teams that have moved to the SEC perhaps Texas should be courting a change of conference rather than hiring a coach to make a move in the opposite direction.

KingsRite's picture

I believe this is going to happen folks and OH WILL IT BE GLORIOUS!

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

KingsRite's picture

We need the Texas and USC's of the world to be relevant again. It is good for the future of college football. One conference dominating is not.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

AndyVance's picture

You know, this is an important point: the "rise of the SEC" coincided directly with a period of relative obscurity for two of the most successful programs in college football history (USC and Texas, not to mention Florida State)... This is not coincidental, as both programs were media darlings in the early years of the BCS era (and before, obviously).
Remember when we used to get so darn tired of hearing about Pete "I have perfect hair" Carroll and the Trojans? Remember when Vince Young was a God among quarterbacks? That wasn't that many years ago, and in those days you didnt' hear the chants of "ESS EEE SEE, ESS EEE SEE" from the mouth-breathing cretins, nor the near-constant drumbeat about the conference from the talking heads.
USC, Texas and Florida State hitting the skids (relatively speaking) timed perfectly with ESPN's billion-dollar bonanza of an SEC contract, and those programs' resurgence will help return some semblance of normalcy in the CFB landscape.

Kurt's picture

I believe that great coaching has lead to the rise of the SEC's BCS streak.  And that it specifically began when LSU hired Saban from Michigan State.  LSU rose from mediocrity to a National Title by 2003.  As we all know Saban has gone on to account for 2 more of the SEC's titles at Alabama.  Then shortly later Urban Meyer joined the conference at Florida and accounted for 2 more of the SEC's title haul of the past decade.  
 

AndyVance's picture

Yes, certainly the coaching, recruiting and on-field production among the top-tier SEC squads has been strong. My point, though, is that if USC, Texas and FSU were as dominant in their respective conferences over the past six or seven years, would the narrative have been different? How would those traditional powerhouses have fared during the seven-year streak? Heck, throw Oklahoma into that mix, too, while you're at it...
For kicks and giggles, let's look at the pairings:

  • 1999 Fiesta Bowl: #1 Tennessee 23, #2 Florida State 16
  • 2000 Sugar Bowl: #1 Florida State 46, #2 Virginia Tech 29
  • 2001 Orange Bowl: #1 Oklahoma 13, #2 Florida State 2
  • 2002 Rose Bowl: #1 Miami 37, #2 Nebraska 14
  • 2003 Fiesta Bowl: #2 Ohio State 31, #1 Miami 24
  • 2004 Sugar Bowl: #2 LSU 21, #1 Oklahoma 14
  • 2005 Orange Bowl: #1 USC 55, #2 Oklahoma 19
  • 2006 Rose Bowl: #2 Texas 41, #1 USC 38
  • 2007 BCSNCG: #2 Florida 41, #1 Ohio State 14
  • 2008 BCSNCG: #2 LSU 38, #1 Ohio State 24
  • 2009 BCSNCG: #2 Florida 24, #1 Oklahoma 14
  • 2010 BCSNCG: #1 Alabama 37, #2 Texas 21
  • 2011 BCSNCG: #1 Auburn 22, #2 Oregon 19
  • 2012 BCSNCG: #2 Alabama 21, #1 LSU 0
  • 2013 BCSNCG: #2 Alabama 42, #1 Notre Dame 14

So, Ohio State took its lumps in '07 and '08, but Oklahoma failed in '04 and '05, and no one seems to talk about that, perhaps because one loss was to the then-beloved USC, and the other was before #SECBaby was a thing.
During the 7-year itch, Texas shows up once, USC is completely absent, and Oklahoma lost its third national championship game in six years. Had those other teams not been on a downward cycle during that time, perhaps the excellent SEC coaching would have run into even more competition for control of the narrative.

Eddie314's picture

If this does happen what are chances both saben and urban will both be around for the 2022 2023 home and home with Texas.  Rating would be through the roof if so.

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

I hope this happens .... the oceans wouldn't be able to contain all the butthurt tears from Alabama....stepping stone job indeed

BuckGnome's picture

ESPN on it now.
Meanwhile, Tuscaloosa sets readiness at DEFCON 1.

Whoa Nellie's picture

Alabama: Capstone or Stepping Stone?

“Don’t fear criticism. The stands are full of critics. They play no ball. They fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down on the field are the doers, they make mistakes because they attempt many things.”

wpitt41's picture

Okay, from and inside source I was told Saban was leaving Alabama because the SEC added coach Bert Bielema last year. My source said Saban was overheard saying "I can't compete with that guy!"

“FOUR TO SIX SECONDS, A TO B, AND YOU GET PISSED OFF WHEN YOU GET THERE!” - U.F.M.

AndyVance's picture

More likely he said, "I can't tolerate the smell of that guy."

Beat Meatchicken's picture

I thought Muschump was the coach in waiting?? How happy is Texas they dodged that bullet ha!

texasbuckeye's picture

Texas also has no state tax.  He will get paid more and taxed less.   Not that he is in it for the money.

armybuckinva's picture

Saban has supposedly closed on a house in Austin. LOL, I'm 100% on board now.  This is actually going to happen and probably before Christmas.  The 2 best coaches the SEC had has left for the BIG and now the Big 12. 

buckeyedude's picture

I am confused and wondering why any Buckeye fan would be "excited" about Saban to Austin rumors? OSU and UFM have recently had success recruiting the Lone Star State and I worry if Saban were in Austin that the Buckeye Pipeline to the State of Texas might dry up?
No more Mike Mitchell's, JT Barrett's, Dontre Wilson's, etc.? Be careful what you wish for.
Other than BamaMike, it would be entertaining to watch the meltdown in Tuscaloosa, though.

 

 

Jdadams01's picture

If Texas dries up, more Southeastern kids would be available with Saban leaving. Even then, recruiting is about relationships and if Urban has those built in Texas, he'll still get kids there.

buckeyedude's picture

I hope you're right JDADAMS. I've seen coaches like Tressel lock down the State of Ohio and it's best players(don't get me wrong, I am not losing sleep over the idea, LOL).

 

 

TilstheHun3's picture

It might impact our recruiting in Texas... however, I honestly just want to see Alabama and the $EC go down. UFM will still be able to recruit nationally.

What is this? A center for ants?!? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can't even fit inside the building?
 

cplunk's picture

It excites me because the SEC dominance is a myth. It has always been three great coaches- Meyer, Saban and Miles. Meyer is ours now. Miles seems to have lost his mojo. If Saban leaves then a few years from now the SEC will be back to its rightful place in the middle of the pack.

kb1's picture

I heard on ESPN radio last night that a deal with Saban from Texas could be 100 Mil over 10 years....anybody else hear this? That would be Fu@#ing ABSURD.... And a reason to leave Bama. 
 
EDIT: This is posted in another thread...including 1% of Longhorn Network...FWIW

ABrown07's picture

I'm thinking the Oklahoma VS Alabama bowl game is going to be foreshadowing for what the Sooners can expect for at least 5-10 more years...

I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people.

-Woody Hayes

TommyWayne's picture

If this plays out with the seemingly likely scenario, how many recruits drop Alabama and don't follow Saban to UT?
Are there potential gifts for the Buckeyes here?

GoBucksToledo's picture

If Nicky leaves, does Bert finally have a chance at winning a game in the SEC?  At least for the first year?
Nah, who am I kidding!

AndyVance's picture

Based on the reports I saw on Twitter last night, Jesus, the Tooth Fairy and Ned Stark all became finalists for Mack Brown's job if they don't land Saban.

armybuckinva's picture

Can't go wrong with Ned Stark IMO. 

BuckeyeAtHeart22's picture

What confuses me is that I feel like any of us Joe Schmoes could recruit pretty damn well at Texas.  Apparently of the 35 million residents of the state, 32 million play high school football at any given time.  I'm pretty sure 10 5* recruits come out of that dueschy state every year.  Why doesn't that program attract ALL of them.  Those people seemingly are rabidly turned on by the thought of playing football for TEXAS and repping TEXAS.  Mack Brown must have gone to in home visits and been like "Don't worry Mom and Dad, he will get his 3 square meals and 6 blowjobs a day under my watch.  And all the yayo he wants pregame.  It's my recipe for success."
I mean seriously how stupid do you have to be to run UT's football program into the ground?