Braxton Miller Wants Back in the Heisman Race

November 19, 2013 at 12:02p    by DJ Byrnes    
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Nobody in these parts wants Johnny Manziel (or any non-Buckeye footballer) to tie Archie "2Heizmanz" Griffin's record, but some are torn by cheering on Jameis Winston, however, because the redshirt freshman will have at least another chance to win another trophy next year. So why not back Braxton's late push? From CBS:

On his way to the team bus after rushing for 184 yards against Illinois last week, Miller told CBSSports.com he understands the unpredictable nature of the Heisman race -- a bad week or two and you're gone.

“I want to get back in that talk,” Miller said.

... Sporting News wanted wins and more accuracy. Miller is 10-0 and improved his passing from 58.3 to 68 percent. His passer rating is up from 140.5 to 165.3.

Braxton, despite the MCL sprain, has had quite the remarkable year. (68% completion rate, are you kidding?) He might be on the outside looking in, and his best hope may be a "mere" invite to the ceremony in New York, but hey, Johnny Football won the Heisman basically for beating Alabama at home last year; so anything is possible. He'll probably need his best performance of his career against Michigan to earn a late-season push from Heisman voters. 


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Phillips.449's picture

Prediction: Winston wins it this year due to his team going to the MNC game to play Ohio State.  TOSU "rolls" spring boarding Braxton into 2014 where he once again goes undefeated and wins the Heisman.  Winston leaves FSU and we don't have to worry about it again.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Why would he leave FSU? It's only his second year.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

awwwwwwop's picture

Hes a RS Frosh and considered to be the top 1-2 QB prospects this year, let alone next year.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

mh277907's picture

From what I can tell - Phillips has Winston winning it this year and then states that Winston will leave and we don't need to worry about him next year. BvW pointed out that Winston will have to come back next year so we will in fact need to worry about him winning 2 Heisman's if he ends up winning it this year.

buckeyebobcat

Phillips.449's picture

I actually meant that Winston would win this year, and lose the MNC shortly thereafter.  As a result, Braxton will win it over him next year.  AFTER that, we won't have to worry about him anymore because he will be in the NFL.
In short, A fellow buckeye of Archie's will prevent a second dual Heisman winner.  Buckeye nation will rejoice and all will be well with the universe.  In addition, M!ch!gan will still suck

BuckeyeTennis91's picture

Are those the new road jerseys for the upcoming Michigan game? If so they look awesome. I think Miller still has an outside shot providing he keeps putting up ridiculously good numbers. I know it's an individual award but the 3 losses for A&M has to affect Manziel's chances right?

mh277907's picture

Yikes... that picture just made me change my stance on the all whites.

buckeyebobcat

Basso Profondo's picture

Just a hypothetical rendering, they will still look a bit different. 

andyb's picture

They need to have that stripe on the side!!! looks awesome!

BuckeyeTennis91's picture

I think it looks pretty good. The red ones look great with the gray pants but adding the white pants looks fine id say.

mh277907's picture

I don't know.. Obviously they won't look exactly like this since this is photoshopped and the pants will be a little different (the pants pictured are the normal grays). And I am not sure what color under armour they will be wearing. I am just a little skeptical now.

buckeyebobcat

RunningFree's picture

I don't see UM's defense posing that much of a challenge, but even then I don't see Braxton's stats as being "amazing" that day due to a heavy dose Hyde.  That said, the real test will most likely be against Sparty in the B1G championship game.  Running Hyde down their throats all day may not be a consistent option, so that will be Braxton's time to shine.
I'm surprised Mariota's campaign has all but ended (according to some) despite only having 1 loss (and 11 interceptions LESS than Manziel... also known as zero).  I'd also like to see Jordan Lynch get a bit more hype as well.  Sure he's in the MAC, but he IS his team's undefeated record.

Idaho Helga's picture

Agreed about Mariota.  The one thing that strikes me is how lucky Manziel is on a lot of what are just arm punts.  He is well overdue for a 6 interception game.  Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, too.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I'm surprised Mariota's campaign has all but ended (according to some) despite only having 1 loss (and 11 interceptions LESS than Manziel... also known as zero).

I tried to say this to SEC fans. They went on how he does more with less and blah, blah, blah.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

btalbert25's picture

I think it's odd too, especially since he was hurt in his one loss.  If LSU beats A&M, it's going to be hard to justify Manziel over Mariota

BKLYN_Buckeye's picture

Throw for over 300 yards...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He would have if he had played the entire game against Penn State, and Purdue.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

ChazBuckeye's picture

He needs to be more concerned about winning against IU and UoM.  I can't stand hearing this because I think it adds unwanted and unnecessary stress to his performance (e.g. at Northwestern).
Heisman<National Championship...no comparison IMHO.
I strongly disagree with this statement:

"but hey, Johnny Football won the Heisman basically for beating Alabama at home last year; so anything is possible.

So his 3700+ yards passing, 1400+ yards rushing and 26 TDs and 9 ints had nothing to do with it huh? And statistically, he's having a better passing year this year so far (73%, wow, really?).  So in all actuality, I can see him winning it again (even though I don't want him to;-)

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

RedStorm45's picture

Manziel has a TON of picks.  And no "Heisman moment" this season.

extemporary08's picture

That's why I call him Johnny Heave & Hope

buckuar's picture

^^^This is perfect.  Without Mike Evans bailing Manziel out on at least HALF of his 57 receptions, Johnny's got a LOT more interceptions.  If anyone on that team should be being talked about, it should be Mike Evans. He's 6'5", 225.  That's a HELL of a receiver, if you ask me.  
Johnny's a great football player, but to say he's the best player in the nation is a stretch.  If he were still in the Big 12, would the case be so strong for him?  

ChazBuckeye's picture

Not trying to campaign for him (as you can see I don't want him to tie Archie) but how is 31 TDs and 11ints, a ton of picks?  That's not that a bad ratio with over 300+ attempts and a 73% completion percentage.  Looks like this year, that's all he does is throw picks;-)  I'll get off his you know what now, because that's how I'm sure some will view my comments.  However I really think he's a special football player.  He just has problems keeping that thing between his ears from making bad decisions on occasion.  If it weren't for that, many would see him in a better light.  

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

awarren84's picture

11 INTs is a ton because, Braxton, Winston, and Mariota have a combined ... 10 INTs.

"Anything less than flagrant is just playing grab ass!"

d1145fresh's picture

I actually like JF and think he is a good quarterback but what the other posters have stated is true in my opinion. He has had great stats but also a lot of those stats come from having to stay late into the games because his defense sucks (not his fault). However, he really hasn't had a true Heisman moment like beating Bama last year. Also if he struggles against LSU and Missouri (along with his team possibly losing both games) I can't forsee the Heisman punditry voting him #1 again this year. The Heisman doesn't only go to the person with the best stats.  

Squirrel Master's picture

Plus it should count against JM when he threw 4 of them in the two loses. He was apart of the reason his team lost those games.
Everyone wants to put the TAMU season on the defense but that defense has been awful all season. So what was the reason for the two loses? It was Manziel.
In the Bama game, he threw one in the endzone negating a TD. Late in the game he threw a pick six which kept his team from getting within a TD to being down by 21 points.
In the Auburn game, not only did he throw ill-timed INT but he even got sacked on the last play of the game when his team could have scored. His running around got him into trouble, which will happen a lot more often in NFL, and he couldn't do his patent comeback.
I think he is a fine QB, much like tony romo, but like Romo he hasn't proven he is a winner of the bigtime games outside of the ONE Bama game last year. I haven't seen him have a decent drive without having to do something Manziel-like. If he ran a traditional offense, one that he will need to do in the NFL to succeed, I don't think he will survive.
Not to mention, as a returning winner he should be held to the standard he created last year, not the competition this year. Compared to last year, he is barely better in stats but still has made mistakes which should cost him. Its not the INTs, its when he has thrown them. The 3 picks two weeks ago almost hurt his team again.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

buckeyeguy0615's picture

A&M's defense sucks this year, so it puts more pressure on their offense.

KBonay's picture

Correct.  Not sure why this is never pointed out.  A&M's D forces JM to play way more minutes* than any other QB that is in the race.  Is there a stat showing actually plays or minutes played for each?  I would guess JM would have a sizeable lead there, thus the reason he piles up stats. 
*Even with his laughable 1/2 game suspension

Nick's picture

The thing is they ran up the score and stats versus some of the worst teams in the country. If you take his numbers from the LSU, Florida and Alabama games they aren't good at all.

Nutinpa's picture

Well said.  I hate to see players, especially QBs mentioning anything about the Heisman.  As leaders, they should be focusing on getting the team to win and do their job.  Especially when every media outlet in the country believes your team is grossly over-rated and can't wait for them to fall on their ass.  Can anyone see AJ McCarron wondering out loud if he will get enough Heisman votes to warrant a trip to NYC in December?   Me neither.  And if he did...how long would Saban put up with it?   Thought so.

IBleedSandG's picture

Brax is gonna need to put up huge stats in the next three games in order to get back in the race.
It's a shame that he got hurt vs SD St. b/c if he hadn't he would definitely be in the mix.

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

TMac's picture

 I would be ok with Braxton putting up numbers that would make Heisman voters take notice over the next three weeks. The first number is necessarily three Ws

RedStorm45's picture

Sporting News wanted wins and more accuracy. Miller is 10-0 and improved his passing from 58.3 to 68 percent.

What?  Miller didn't even play in 2.75 of those 10 wins.
 
Also, I'd rather Miller focus on winning and getting better than trying to get back into a Hesiman race.  Crystal>Heisman.
 
Last, why isn't #34 getting any Heisman pub?  Dude is a beast.  EDIT - I'll answer my own question, he was out for 3.5 games.  Will be tough to win it on B1G season alone.

ChazBuckeye's picture

I agree with this more^^^^ Hyde for Heisman!  Miller's time will be next year (even though this was the same comment from last year when considering Brax360's Heisman hopes).  

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Matt F's picture

You also have to look at the reason WHY Hyde was suspended. Even though he was eventually exonerated, Heisman voters won't want someone who was suspended for a bar altercation with a female on the table. Although they did vote Manziel last year, so what do I know?
Also, I think any chance for a Miller or Hyde Heisman is sunk in the national media bias debate. Probably one reason you don't see either of them on the Heisman slate very often (in addition to other circumstances).

Squirrel Master's picture

I think if Hyde can run for 200 plus in the next 3 games, he could sneak in there. It would put him at around 1600 for the season after missing those games.
and if off field stuff does hurt Hyde, then it certainly should hurt Manziel. I'm not talking about the autograph stuff which we all know happened, I'm talking about the general overall stuff. I think it is really telling when a player says "I can't wait to get out of college station". He is immature, and as a "repeat" winner it should count! He has not acted heisman worthy to win it a second time. The second time should carry more weight. It was held against Tebow his second year, it should against Manziel too.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

osuxrow07's picture

I agree. Honestly cannot fathom how Manziel is getting serious consideration based on his maturity level and his antics. Carlos Hyde will have over 1000 yds rushing in essentially seven games after Indiana. Imagine where he would be without the suspension. If his 'off the field antics' are enough to keep him from consideration, there's no WAY Manziel should be considered.

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cjmgobucks's picture

NO.  Just, no... That ship has sailed for the year.  His only concern right now should be Indiana...

"When I look in the mirror, I want to take a swing at me."
Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Yeah, i'm sure he hasn't thought about Indiana at all. :/

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

kareemabduljacobb's picture

If Braxton can get 5 total TDs vs Indiana and tsun giving him 30 total on the year then another solid performance in the B1G championship, he could def work his way back up into the top 3-5.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

I don't how it has not been engrained in these gentlemen to just keep their mouths shut and play some football. We saw what happened this past weekend when their minds were elsewhere. I'm not all super conspiracy theory, but maybe Meyer has them talking to drum up more attention to get people to review their past and watch games? who knows. All that is important is winning out and doing it impressively.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

hit_the_couch's picture

Miller got a lone 5th place vote on ESPiN. I see progress!

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Hovenaut's picture

When he says he wants back in the Heisman race, is he saying he's coming back in 2014?

Because that would be fantastic.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Nutinpa's picture

He should be back next year.  Unless he plans on being something other than a QB in the NFL in 2014.

saltybuck61's picture

I don't see anybody in the NFL using him as anything other than a quarterback. He isn't a polished enough runner to be a tailback. His arm is spectacular, and I doubt any team would want to waste it. He would still be taken as a quarterback, but probably in the later rounds. Great arm and getting better with accuracy. He sometimes struggles with decision making and his consistency.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Coach Meyer and Coach Warinner show him the OL won't be in bad shape I bet he does stay. He's going to still have some great weapons around him and we return a good core on D, even if we lose Shazier.
The one silver lining about the possibility of getting left out of the NCG is it might prompt them all to come back one more year. RDS included. Watch the hell out if that happens.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

Deadly Nuts's picture

Why not Hyde for Heisman? Putting up 8 yards a carry and he and didn't even play in three games against scrubs where he would have put up better numbers.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

After our last Heisman winner (he was a heck of a College QB and a good guy) and the result shortly thereafter, I basically lost a lot of interest in that bauble.  Don't get me wrong, would be great if Brax won, but wish the Heisman would be awarded AFTER the bowl games.  That way we get to see the entire picture, especially at crunch time, and the recipient doesn't have the distraction of the talk show and banquet circuit prior the the bowl game.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Deadly Nuts's picture

It would go to the National Champion QB every time.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.  A system QB (like McCarron at Bama) would unlikely win the Heisman despite a NC win, it would go to a QB (or RB) with great stats on a good team.  Troy may still have won the Heisman that season in my hypothetical scenario, Chris Leak played the game of his life and no way would he have been awarded that honor.  You don't think Manziel would not have still won the Heisman last season AFTER the bowl season???  IMHO he would have.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

I love BM and am glad he is our QB, but he is not the most outstanding player in the country. Sorry, he doesn't deserve the Heisman. Maybe next year he will be a candidate, but not this year.  Numbers are certainly important, but its not simply a matter of numbers. I've seen lots of football and I plainly don't believe he is the MOP. In fact, he is the second MOP on his own team

Thajinn's picture

I think he Should be in the Top Spot Now second too Winton and may take it over After the next two games vs tsun and MSU..