Meyer: 2013 Buckeyes Comparable to 2006 Gators

By Kyle Rowland on November 5, 2013 at 2:30p
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The 2013 Buckeyes and 2006 Gators: touchdown makers.

Urban Meyer has coached multiple national champions and undefeated team during his dozen years as a head coach. So where do the 2013 Buckeyes fit in? Ironically, Meyer would compare them to the 2006 Florida Gators, the team that blasted the Buckeyes 41-14 in the national title game.

“I can relate it to the 2006 team where they continued to get better and better,” Meyer said Tuesday on the Big Ten football coaches teleconference. “No question the way we’re playing right now, we’re playing at a very high level.”

During the bye week, Meyer hopes to keep the momentum going. Two items on the docket are kick returns and pass defense. Another off week activity for Meyer will be relaxing on the couch Thursday night while watching Stanford-Oregon and Oklahoma-Baylor, which he said is in the plans.

Notes

Urban Meyer:

  • Meyer gives himself grade of “B” in how well he balances football and rest of life. “There's only so many hours you can put into this job.”
  • Tyvis Powell and Vonn Bell are “our future,” Meyer said. “We have to continue to get them ready.”
  • “I’m interested to watch that film, which I’m going to in the next couple days.” -Meyer on MSU holding Michigan to minus-48 rushing yards.
  • Taylor Decker, who sprained his MCL on Saturday, should return at Illinois Nov. 16, according to Meyer.
  • Jordan Hall’s issue is a chronic knee injury, Meyer said. Hall woke up Saturday to a stiff and sore knee.

Brady Hoke:

  • “There’s a lot that we need to get better at.”
  • Hoke admitted Michigan has to play better on the road, but he said it has nothing to do with a lack of focus or preparation.
  • Michigan’s offensive line has been a sore spot throughout the season. That was evident against Saturday with a negative rushing output. Hoke said the unit needs to improve fundamentals and be better disciplined with technique.
  • Hoke said he still believes Michigan can be a great team before adding “most of you think I’m nuts.” He cited youth, turnovers and an inconsistent offensive line has issues holding the Wolverines back.

Gary Andersen:

  • Wisconsin hosts BYU this weekend, a team Andersen is familiar with having played at Utah and coached at Utah and Utah State. The Cougars are a very solid team this year and coming off a bye week. Andersen called it a “great challenge” for Wisconsin.
  • Andersen said one of the most surprising things about taking the Wisconsin job was glancing at the schedule and seeing BYU.
  • “They do it the right way. I know we’re playing a quality team with great people.”
  • Andersen said James White and Melvin Gordon don’t have agendas. Both want the other to succeed and for the team to win. Andersen said White is a leader that other players should look at as example.

Bo Pelini:

  • Pelini said he was looking all over the field for some sort of confirmation that Nebraska’s Hail Mary did, in fact, count.
  • All programs have highs and lows, Pelini said. Emotionally you have to stay the course.
  • Freshman Jordan Westerkamp is the Cornhusker who caught the game-winning touchdown pass Saturday. Pelini said he has “phenomenal hands.” 
  • Pelini said if healthy, Taylor Martinez will be in the mix at quarterback this week.

Mark Dantonio:

  • Doing his best Jim Tressel impersonation, Dantonio spoke at length about freshman kicker Michael Geiger, saying, “He’s an extremely confident young man.”
  • Dantonio said he’s amazed that Michigan State hasn’t allowed 100 yards rushing this season. “We’ve been very, very stingy.”
  • Dantonio actually downplayed Michigan State limiting Michigan to minus-48 rushing yards because so much of it came on sacks. Said Wolverines had around 60 pure rushing yards.
  • On the Taylor Lewan fiasco: “Football is football. It’s a tough game. I accept people’s apologies.”

Kirk Ferentz:

  • “We challenge the whole team. We do it every week. We don’t ever want to settle for field goals.”
  • Iowa has five wins. Ferentz said the team doesn’t talk much about bowl eligibility. He said the players are smart enough to know that six wins are needed. The main focus is on the current week and opponent.
  • Ferentz was asked to compare Ohio State, Wisconsin and Michigan State. He didn’t really sway one way or another, only saying that all three are great football teams. Said the Big Ten Championship Game will be a very good contest in December.

Tracy Claeys:

  • Claeys has taken the Big Ten by storm, leading Minnesota to three straight victories. He said he’s very appreciative and respectful to be where he’s at in the Big Ten. Claeys has been Jerry Kill’s defensive coordinator for years.
  • Told Minnesota has not won four consecutive conference games in 40 years, Claeys said, “That’s pretty amazing.” To accomplish it this week would be huge, he added.
  • Claeys didn’t pay off his student loans until he became the defensive coordinator at Minnesota. His first job was a work-study no pay position at Kansas under Glen Mason.

Tim Beckman:

  • Senior quarterback Nathan Scheelhaase is the team leader, Beckman said. He said Scheelhaase has embraced that role and been great in the locker room, on the field and in the huddle. “He has a lot to do with the success we’ve had on offense this year.”
  • Asked if he mentions bowl eligibility to his team, Beckman said, emphatically, “All the time.” The Illini needs to win three of its final four games to get there. Beckman said he and the players strive to move the program forward.
  • Beckman said this year’s team has improved leaps and bounds from last season. He believes the team will be competitive in its final four games of the regular season.

Darrell Hazell:

  • “I feel good about the future of this football program. We’re going to do everything we can to get things corrected. I’m very optimistic.”
  • On Ohio State, Wisconsin and Michigan State: “This conference is loaded. I can’t tell the gap between each team. They’re all good.”
  • Hazell said he believes Ohio State might have the upper hand over Michigan State with more offensive playmakers.

Bill O’Brien:

  • O’Brien said running back Bill Belton is a more patient player in the backfield this season. Belton was the conference co-offensive player of the week for his performance against Illinois. O’Brien also attributed health and another year in system as improvement in Belton’s play.

Pat Fitzgerald:

  • The focus for Northwestern is health. Fitzgerald said it’s not a good situation right now health-wise for the Wildcats. They aren’t practicing during the bye week until Thursday.
  • Northwestern has to win two of its final three games to reach a bowl. Fitzgerald said it’s obvious the team has its back up against the wall the final few weeks. He said he won’t mention it to the team.
  • Venric Mark is day-to-day. Fitzgerald said he’ll sit down and talk with him and they’ll make a long-term decision. Mark wants to play, according to Fitzgerald. But he said as the head coach he wants to make sure they are making the right decision for Mark’s future.

Kevin Wilson:

  • Wilson said he continues to be disappointed in the Indian defense.
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Maestro's picture

Ha, love the subtle jab to the Gator faithful.  Actually, they won't take it as subtle.  They will fully embrace it and turn it into fuel for their crazy ex-girlfriend/boyfriend behavior.

vacuuming sucks

Killer nuts's picture

Kevin Wilson - A man of few words

Earle's picture

And fewer defensive stops.

Italics are for emphasis.

Maestro's picture

and also not a fan of Swisher in the outfield apparently.

vacuuming sucks

Killer nuts's picture

I took it more as commentary on the bow & arrow

Squirrel Master's picture

and what is his beef with the native americans defense?

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

jkrk's picture

Andrew Jackson had SEC speed, so not much they could've done.

BeijingBucks's picture

'Get off our land' clearly is not working once the enemy crosses the red zone

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

vitaminB's picture

Gen Custer:
• Custer said he continues to be disappointed in the Indian defense.

Fixed.

BuckeyeSouth's picture

MSU hasn't given up 100 rushing yards on the season or hasn't had a game in which they've given up 100 yards?  The way it's written suggests they haven't given up 100 rushing yards on the season, which if true, is phenomenal.

Embrace it.

Tony's picture

According to http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/team/416/index.html, they have given up 391 rushing yards this year.
 
Still phenomenal.

Enzo's picture

Neither have the Buckeyes if I'm not mistaken.

Tony's picture

Close.
The Buckeyes haven't had a single player rush for 100 yards against them. They've given up 100+ yards rushing a couple times: @Cal, Wisky, Iowa, and PSU.
MSU has yet to give up 100 yards rushing to any team, with the closest being 92 against Indiana. 
Buckeyes game log: http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/team/518/rushing/defense/gamelog.html
MSU game log: http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/team/416/rushing/defense/gamelog.html

jedkat's picture

Hoke admitted Michigan has to play better on the road, but he said it has nothing to do with a lack of focus or preparation.

um, that's EXACTLY what it has to do with.

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back, so I just ran him over"

~ Joey Bosa

Ethos's picture

how lucky are we that first they get Rich Rod, and now they get John Cooper II?

"What do you need water for, Sunshine?!" - Coach Coombs, if you don't love this man, you have no soul.

BucksfanXC's picture

I wouldn't jump to calling him Cooper 2.0 yet. Why? Because a) Cooper won a lot more games before The Game and 2) Hoke is 1-1 against OSU so far and that's a long way from 2-10-1

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Idaho Helga's picture

Not a Cooper fan by any stretch but he did win the occasional road game.

Idaho Helga's picture

"Most of you think I'm nuts".  No, Brady, ALL OF US (including your own fan base) think you are nuts when you say " this can be a great team".  That ship sailed in , um, was it the Akron or UConn game?  I forget which.

Squirrel Master's picture

somewhere between ND and Akron I think. Someone must have spiked the spare ribs that week!
isn't the definition of a great team NOT losing in the manner they did last week? or winning barely against teams like Akron and Uconn?
Even if they go undefeated the rest of the year, including a ***COUGH, COUGH**** WIN OVER OSU, I don't think that would still classify as a "great" team!
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

chitown buckeye's picture

I thought the exact same thing! If its not preparation and its not focus then what is it? Doesnt preparation take care of coaching, game plan, etc.. and focus take care of executing, nerves, playing in an hostile environment, etc...?

"I'm having a heart attack!"

ChazBuckeye's picture

I don't even know what to say about Hoke's comments.  I think WOW works.  I'm surprised they didn't ask Bo about his brother.

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

FitzBuck's picture

Brady Hoke

“most of you think I’m nuts.”

No Brady.  Most of us think your fat, a crappy coach and in denial.
 
 

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

jkrk's picture

No Brady.  Most of us think your fat, a crappy coach and in denial.

"IF UR HAPPY AND U KNOW IT CLAP UR HANDS!!!"

Squirrel Master's picture

good point Chaz, although they might have asked Bo about it and he forgot to answer it!
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

jkrk's picture

He did say there were a lot of highs.

Hovenaut's picture

I'm not sure how to feel about Urban's comparison.

I had to double take regarding Coach Hoke....thought he originally said "most of you like doughnuts".

Idaho Helga's picture

Well wouldn't that make Brax = Tebow?  I have higher expectations for Braxton!!! (not sure, do I have the right year?)

tennbuckeye19's picture

UF had Chris Leak as their starting QB and a true freshman Tebow as their back-up in 06.

Idaho Helga's picture

Thanks.  So, I'll change that to Brax > Leak.

Earle's picture

Wait for it...

Italics are for emphasis.

harleymanjax's picture

Guiton > Tebow

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

Earle's picture

And there it is!

Italics are for emphasis.

Squirrel Master's picture

funny thing is, Tebow was actually a hell of a college QB. At least statistically he is better than even the almighty Manziel (which makes me laugh because Manziel is so great yet even he can't match Tebow's success).
Now I totally believe Braxton and even Guiton is better than Tebow and also Leak. Last year I might consider Tebow a better passer, at least statistically, than Braxton, but NOT THIS YEAR! Braxton has Tebow beat hands down.
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

45has2's picture

It's all about the supporting cast. TIMMAY had quite a few players around him that are now playing on Sunday. Johnny Hangover.....not so much.
Charlie Strong coached up a strong D for the Gaytards. Mark Snyder.....uh, what were we talking about again?
They all helped to make Leakbow look like and be champions.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

Squirrel Master's picture

Johnny Hangover.....not so much? REALLY?
I would take TAMU's offensive playmakers over the UF ones in 2006 any day. Outside of Percy Harvin, they had really nothing. And, I would take Mike Evans over Harvin still. Kid is a monster and helps out Manziel any chance he can get.
Now I know you are referring to defense, but with a leaky defense like that it would only ENHANCE manziels stats to keep throwing. Yet Tebow's stats can compare even though he isn't the demi-god that Manziel is.
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Hoke going on to mutter "Mmm ...doughnuts" and staring off into space for several minutes makes sense now.

eb314's picture

We can only hope that this team is like the 06 Gators.  On the outside looking in, and ranked #4 (if I remember?) going into the last week of the season where they got voted up to #2 as teams lost.  They weren't viewed as a #1 or #2 team all year until they dominated the NCG.
I would only hope that we don't have to wait until championship game weekend to jump to #2.
edit:  They were #4 behind 12-0 OSU, 11-1 Michigan, and 11-1 USC.  USC lost their championship game and Florida jumped UM after winning the SEC championship game.

stittracer99's picture

I don't think this is by accident. Meyer lobbied hard for UF to get into that game after the last week of the season and his argument proved very persuasive. I think we will see the same thing gradually increase for us over the next few weeks. He is starting soft now, but by season's end will be yelling it from the rooftops just how much his team deserves to be in NCG.

avail31678's picture

He did lobby, yes, but the Gators also had a real strong showing in the SEC championship game.  They kinda went from a silent #4 team who had lost a close close game to someone...but then lit it up when it mattered most.

eb314's picture

Yes, and unfortunately we aren't going to get that SEC title game push that they got.  Also the argument that nobody wanted to see an OSU v Mich rematch for the title game (valid, the LSU Bama rematch was brutal) helped.  I just hope we get in.

Ahh Saturday's picture

Two things:
First, I have yet to hear Hoke blame himself, or any of his coaches, for Michigan's performance.  After each lackluster performance, he points the finger at his players.  He blames fundamentals, discipline, technique, youth, turnovers, and his offensive line, but the coaches are apparently totally awesome.
Second, and perhaps a petty point, but if Hazell is having trouble distinguishing the difference between OSU and MSU, from a Purdue perspective at least, that difference is 42 points.

Earle's picture

Because coaching has nothing to do with fundamentals, discipline, or technique.

Italics are for emphasis.

JakeBuckeye's picture

“This conference is loaded. I can’t tell the gap between each team. They’re all good.”

L-O-L.

harleymanjax's picture

That quote makes me think we should have kept the 1st team in longer and scored 100 points!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

45has2's picture

Don't forget which senator from the great city of Mentor, OH Darrell coached under.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

The conference does have a lot of talent. You could make the argument that coaching(Nebraska, and UM), sanctions(PSU), and injuries(NW) are holding it back.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

rkylet83's picture

Looking back on their stats, we're like the invert of the 2006 Gators this season.  Florida was stout on defense throughout the 2006 campaign, but their offense was almost poor for most of the season.  Very rarely did they out gain anyone and pretty much relied on turnovers ot get by.  Their offense got better late in the season and apexed at the right time for them.  Until 'that game" we were right to think we'd beat them (just like ESPN and all the talking heads were saying, they just back tracked later).  
This season we've been good on the offense from the outset and our defense looks like we're slowly tightening up the loose ends.  Hopefully we can do what the Gators did back then.      

OneOfOver475000's picture

Dantonio actually downplayed Michigan State limiting Michigan to minus-48 rushing yards because so much of it came on sacks. Said Wolverines had around 60 pure rushing yards.

My math skills must be betraying me.  Doesn't this mean they were sacked for -108 yards?
If so, that's even more amazing than Baxter eating the whole wheel of cheese.

Ethos's picture

yeah that game was hilarious to watch.

"What do you need water for, Sunshine?!" - Coach Coombs, if you don't love this man, you have no soul.

andretolstoy's picture

I'm a bit conflicted about this. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it. But Florida St. looks darn good. But so does MSU's defense....i'm so confused.
A little off the topic. Any truth to the rumor that Coack Fickell interviewed for the Florida Atlantic job?

andretolstoy's picture

I knew this. Just seeing if you guys were awake ...

45has2's picture

Free Shoes University can be run on and over. The only scary part about them is how good their receivers are. They make Jameis look good.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Jordan Hall’s issue is a chronic knee injury, Meyer said. Hall woke up Saturday to a stiff and sore knee.

Is it the same knee he injured against MSU?

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Seems unlikely, but maybe Wisconsin will get a decent bump in the BCS after beating BYU.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

edr4225's picture

Brady Hoke
“most of you think I’m nuts.”

 

lets go bucks!!

N8thegr8's picture

Had Twitter pulled up today at work while the coaches were doing their teleconference.... I laughed that all the Big Ten associated reporters tweeted Coach Hazell's comment about the conference being loaded; however the ESPN associated twitter accounts did not tweet that comment out. 

"Play for Ohio State or get beat by Ohio State. That simple." - Kirk Barton 

Seattle Linga's picture

Man - we can even make fun of Hoke - just from his presser alone. It doesn't get any easier than this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!