B1G Football Recruiting Rankings: 11/4

By Jordan Wagner on November 4, 2013 at 7:30p
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Buckeyes are planting the flagsThe coaches are planting the flag during the bye week.

The Big Ten welcomes in November with only one new pledge. We are just about three months away from National Signing Day 2014 and even less than that for the All-American games. As these key dates approach, prospects continue to narrow down their college choices and come closer to their final decisions.

Purdue welcomes the only new football recruit this week. The latest commitment moves the Boilermakers up a spot in our recruiting rankings. 

This past weekend, the Buckeyes were on the road and won their 21st straight football game. Ohio State is on a bye this week, but that doesn't mean the coaching staff will get any time off.

Urban Meyer and staff have already been spotted at numerous high schools across the country. Kerry Coombs was in Georgia. Zach Smith was in Virginia. Meyer and Ed Warinner were in New Jersey. The coaching staff has hit the recruiting trail hard this week. Stay tuned to 11W for the latest on where and who the coaches are visiting. 

Now, on to the rankings:

14. Minnesota

The surprising Gophers are off to a 7-2 start, however, they have yet to capitalize on their success on the recruiting scene. Minnesota currently has eight commitments with the staff looking to take up to 15 prospects. Jerry Kill's health has yet to scare any of their current commitments away.  

Commitments: No new commitments this week. 

Visitor news: The Gophers will be hosting Penn State, this weekend. Minnesota will also be hosting a few official visitors including three-star RB J'vonte Herrod. Three-star defensive end Demetrius Hill and unranked tight end Jerry Gibson are also expected to attend. 

13. Illinois

The Fighting Illini slip a spot in our rankings. It's not surprising that Illinois has struggled after hiring a MAC coach. Despite have 14 commitments, they find themselves near the bottom of the rankings and things aren't looking too promising. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: Illinois will travel to Bloomington. No visitors this weekend for the Illini.  

12. Purdue

Although Purdue was blown out by the Buckeyes, Darrell Hazell did manage to land another commitment. The first-year coach has struggled to win games and recruit at any level for the Boilermakers. While they move up a spot this week, it's looking like they are destined to stay near the bottom of our rankings. 

Commitments: The Boilermakers landed a commitment from 2014 defensive end Will Colmery after earning a scholarship offer earlier in the week. Purdue landed Colmery over offers from Central Michigan, Fordham, Colgate, North Dakota and Wyoming.  

Visitor news: Iowa is traveling to Purdue, this weekend. The Boilermakers will host three-star offensive tackle Marcus Applefield for an official visit. The Florida product has crystal ball predictions to Rutgers, Florida State and Vanderbilt. 

11. Indiana 

Kevin Wilson hasn't had as much luck as Tom Crean at recruiting. C.J. Conrad, a TE in the class of 2015, was one of quite a few junior prospects in attendance for their latest game. He is getting a close look from Ohio State and they would be very tough to beat, if they offer. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: Indiana takes on Illinois in Bloomington on Saturday. There are not currently any prospects scheduled to officially visit. 

CJ Conrad is a Buckeye, if offered2015 TE C.J. Conrad visited Indiana on Saturday

10. Maryland

While Maryland is currently ranked no. 10 in the recruiting rankings, they are a safe bet to finish in the top third. The Terps are poised for a strong finish with five-stars Jalen Tabor and Damian Prince continuing to trend their way. As long as Mike Locksley stays, Maryland should finish with a solid recruiting class. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week. 

Visitor news: The Terrapins will host Syracuse, Saturday. Five-star corner Jalen Tabor will be back at Maryland. The frequent visitor has the Terps at the top of his list. 

9. Iowa

All is still quiet in Iowa. Kirk Ferentz is still getting an outrageous amount of money to field a solid football team filled with three star prospects. Nothing much to see here. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week. 

Visitor news: Iowa will travel to Purdue, Saturday. The Hawkeyes will continue to be quiet on the recruiting trail. 

8. Nebraska

A tipped ball on a Hail Mary saved Bo Pelini's job. That game was the first big recruiting weekend for Nebraska. The Cornhuskers have struggled to put together a big recruiting for numerous reasons, including 11 a.m. kickoffs. There is a lot of uncertainty in Lincoln, but they'll aim for a strong finish. Nebraska continues to pursue JUCO players and prospects committed elsewhere. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: Nebraska will be traveling to Ann Arbor, therefore the Cornhuskers will be quiet on the recruiting trail. A surprise visit from Suh and a game-winning Hail Mary capped off a good recruiting weekend for Nebraska. 

The next Le'Veon Bell?'14 RB Madre London expected to commit to MSU tonight

7. Northwestern

Northwestern has completely fallen off the map. The once hyped football team is now preparing to take their final exams. Much like the team, their recruiting ranking has fallen in recent months. It has been a while since the Wildcats last landed a commitment. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: The Wildcats limp into their bye week. Pat Fitzgerald will be able to spend their bye week on the recruiting trail. 

6. Michigan State

The Spartans did not land a commitment, but their big recruiting weekend couldn't have went much better. Michigan State hosted well over a hundred prospects for the Michigan beat down. This can only be a positive for them moving forward. 

Florida three-star running back Madre London is expected to commit to Michigan State over Wisconsin, Nebraska and Illinois. The six-foot-one inch senior is hoping to land early playing time. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.  

Visitor news: Michigan State is on a bye week, which will allow their staff to continue on the recruiting momentum gained from a huge recruiting visit weekend. 

5. Penn State

Penn State continues to chase after a few four-star prospects including Thomas Holley, Alex Bookser and Dravon Henry. Bill O'Brien is working hard to beat out Urban Meyer for two recruits this cycle. After already securing a commitment from Mike Gesicki, the Lions have pushed hard for Thomas Holley is strongly considered the Nittany Lions. Holley keeps quiet, but PSU feels like they have a legit shot to land the four-star defensive tackle.

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: The Nittany Lions will travel to Minnesota, this weekend. No visitors for Penn State. 

4. Wisconsin 

The Badgers have quietly climbed their way to fourth in the recruiting rankings and they could soon make a push for the third spot. Wisconsin is expected to have another big recruiting weekend and it is believed they could land up to three new commitments. By landing three commitments, they could definitely challenge Rutgers for the third spot. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week. 

Visitor news: BYU will travel to Madison to take on the Badgers. There are a few official visitors scheduled to head to Madison, including Keishawn Richardson, Kadeem Goulbourne, Richard Dorvilus and Rafael Gaglianone. Wisconsin fans are confident about landing another commitment this weekend. They sit in a good position for Richardson and Dorvilus, and Gaglianone could be an instant commitment if he lands an offer. 

This isn't a checkbook. Alabama or Michigan for Da'Shawn Hand?

3. Rutgers

Rutgers' class continues to be ranked third in the rankings, mostly due the size of the class. While the Scarlet Knights have some quality recruits at the top of their list, the quality at the bottom is low. 

There has been some talk about three-star running back Jonathan Hilliman switching his commitment to Notre Dame. Hilliman was a one time Ohio State target. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week. 

Visitor news: Rutgers is on a bye week, allowing their coaching staff to spend the week on the recruiting trail. The Scarlet Knights still have a few more '14 targets, but this week will be spent mostly on junior prospects. 

2. Michigan

Despite another loss to "little brother," Michigan probably doesn't have to worry about losing many top prospects to Michigan State. There has been some internet talk of Malik McDowell to Michigan State, but I'd be surprised if he didn't end up at Michigan. Wolverine fans are ten days away from Da'Shawn Hand's announcement. It still looks like Hand will choose Michigan over Alabama. Ohio State's spot at the top of the list is safe. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: The Wolverines will return home to play Nebraska, this weekend. Michigan will host some underclassmen, but the next big recruiting weekend will come when Ohio State travels to Ann Arbor, later this month. 

1. Ohio State

The Buckeyes continue to win on the field and the recruiting success has followed. While it has been a little while since the last commitment, we are getting closer and closer to possible decisions from quite a few targets. The staff will hit the recruiting circuit hard over the next week, as they look to finish with another highly rated national class. 

Commitments: No new commitments this week.

Visitor news: The Buckeyes are on a bye week, which allows the staff to hit the road to recruit. We'll be following the coaches on the recruiting trail here


Rankings Overview

No. School Commits Scout ★ AVG Rivals ★ AVG 247 ★ AVG ESPN ★ AVG Overall ★ Avg
1 Ohio State 18 3.72 (8) 3.61 (3) 3.89 (3) 3.72 (10) 3.74
2 Michigan 16 3.56 (13) 3.47 (17) 3.44 (10) 3.86 (6) 3.58
3 Rutgers  25 2.96 (20) 2.83 (22) 2.92 (22) 3.17 (18) 2.97
4 Wisconsin  18 3.17 (26) 2.94 (26) 3.11 (25) 3.00 (36) 3.06
5 Penn State  15 3.27 (28) 3.13 (29) 3.33 (28) 3.40 (25) 3.28
6 Michigan State 16 3.19 (27) 3.13 (36) 3.40 (33) 3.29 (39) 3.25
7 Northwestern 13 3.08 (40) 3.08 (48) 3.31 (41) 3.31 (NR) 3.20
8 Nebraska  13 3.08 (46) 3.00 (47) 3.15 (47) 3.23 (38) 3.12
9 Iowa  15 2.87 (41) 2.73 (52) 2.80 (50) 3.07 (NR) 2.87
10 Maryland  11 3.09 (53) 2.91 (56) 3.00 (45) 3.36 (NR) 3.09
11 Indiana  14 2.86 (55) 2.64 (62) 2.71 (60) 3.00 (NR) 2.80
12 Purdue 11 2.62 (64) 2.70 (71) 3.00 (66) 3.00 (NR) 2.83
13 Illinois 14 2.57 (67) 2.69 (54) 2.62 (67) 3.00 (NR) 2.72
14 Minnesota 8 3.13 (63) 2.88 (75) 3.14 (77) 2.86 (NR) 3.00

Number in parentheses is national rank

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Seattle Linga's picture

As always - thanks for the write up Jordan - Always nice to see what's going on in the recruiting world.

Jordan Wagner's picture

Michigan State landed Madre London today, as mentioned in the article. His commitment will be reflected in the article next week. 

Seattle Linga's picture

No big surprise - good luck young man

BeijingBucks's picture

as ESPN continues to troll tOSU in the rankings, BCS human polls, perception games and Nat'l Cship picture... can we get to a playoff soon enough?
I am kind of surprised I must admit with soooo many Buckeye alum on their front desks.  Do none of them notice the perception of ESPN bias?  Do they simply favor the paycheck and national spotlight over their alma mater?  Do they buy into the company line that controversy brings viewers?  Clearly ESPN is not worried about the sharp downturn in their viewer numbers and becoming an also-ran from their long-standing perch at the forefront of Sports Media?
Remember when Sports Illustrated was the only publication with shiny pictures you would see on every newsstand?  When was the last time you or anyone you know picked up a Sports Illustrated (since the swimsuit issue lost its must have status with the advent of on-line porn)
Eleven Warriors dot com ladies and gents.  this is the wave of the buckeye media future.  believe dat!  

 

 

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CincyOSU's picture

as ESPN continues to troll tOSU in the rankings, BCS human polls, perception games and Nat'l Cship picture... can we get to a playoff soon enough?

ESPN also had OSU #3 last year and #6 the year before. Were they trolling then? Maybe wait until the final rankings come out before getting yourself so worked up. Worrying about recruiting rankings right now is like UM fans bragging about Denard's September Heismans.

I am kind of surprised I must admit with soooo many Buckeye alum on their front desks.  Do none of them notice the perception of ESPN bias?

Maybe, just maybe, they understand the ESPN is not "out to get OSU". The only bias ESPN has is to protect their SEC investment. That does not mean hurting OSU or the B1G, whom they have a billion dollar contract with.
 

fear_the_nut70's picture

I agree that they are not out to get OSU (they have the rights to many of OSU's primary telecasts, and as a result ,we appear on ABC/ESPN usually about 6 times a year).  It isn't an agenda to get OSU as much as it is an effort to boost the value of their SEC deal IMO.

fear_the_nut70's picture

ESPN is following a business model that major news agencies have been doing for years--it isn't news any more, it is information/propaganda to bolster the value of your other commodities.  The "brilliance" of this model is that you give the impression of a news agency and objectivity, hoping to fool the gullible consumer (or those that don't have the time or desire to do their homework).   So, that they are constantly propping up the SEC, it should surprise no one.  Many don't understand why OSU fans can't stand Herbstreit, but this article does it better than any other I have seen and really emphasizes that Kirk is now a bought and sold company man:
http://www.theozone.net/football/2011/herbstreitballot.html
I tell people all the time, watch ESPN for their live content and nothing else (and even that can be painful as the bias seeps into the announcers).  Watching the rest of their programming will only aggravate you.
 
 
 

CincyOSU's picture

The whole Herbsteit/Sugar Bowl issue has been talked about plenty on here, but it proves nothing.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

A good sign of a lack of objectivity is ignoring or downplaying evidence which does not fit your conclusion.
 

CincyOSU's picture

Really? You want to play that game? That's beyond hilarious.
What does Herbstreit dropping OSU prove? It certainly does not PROVE he has bias against OSU. Isn't it possible that he felt the teams above OSU were better? Or maybe that OSU shouldn't have been ranked that high given the circumstances(the beginning of Tatgate)? While dropping OSU may have been unnecessary, it doesn't PROVE anything...unless you are part of the anti Herbie crowd, then it is a concrete fact.
I don't know how many negative Herbstreit/"ESPN hates us" articles get thrown around on here as fact, yet anything positive, or to the contrary, is conveniently ignored. That, my friend, is a good sign of a lack of objectivity.

fear_the_nut70's picture

Did you even read the link I posted?  There is absolutely zero logic to ranking them # 6 the week before, beating a top 10 team, then dropping them 3 spots, especially in light of the other patterns he displayed in voting pointed out in that article.
I have read one column where Herbstreit tried to explain that ballot and the logic made no sense to me.  But seriously, if you have information I should consider, or a link, by all means, please share with me.  I am always open to considering the other side of things.
 

CincyOSU's picture

I did read you article. But the point remains, it PROVES nothing. You have no idea why Herbie voted the way he did. Saying he has turned on the program he played for based on ONE ballot is a massive assumption that conveniently ignores everything else Herbie says that is positive about OSU. When people want to be angry, it's easy to find things to be angry about.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Really? You want to play that game? That's beyond hilarious.

I'm not playing any game. The majority of your posting is dedicated to arguing that there is no anti-OSU bias in the national media. The problem is that you are a mirror image of the posters you so vehemently argue against. When faced with any data point that doesn't conform to your talking points you either automatically ignore it or go on a tirade like the one above. No Kirk's vote doesn't 'prove' anything...however if his voting shows a pattern of different treatment for specific schools in similar situations then it is evidence of a bias on his part.
No one is ever going to 'prove' anything to your satisfaction because you aren't looking for an objective answer, you're just looking for a point to argue.
 

CincyOSU's picture

Seeing as you are one of the "the media is out to get us" crowd, I expect you to feel that way. But you are simply deflecting away from my point. The poster implied that his link was proof that Herbstreit has some sort of OSU bias and that he "has been bought by ESPN". I simply pointed out that the article does NOT prove anything of the sort. It's one man's opinion on what he thinks happened. It does not show any pattern, if you want to see a pattern, look at the various images of Herbstreit showing his OSU pride, his "homerism" when he is not working his day job(which is how it should be), or the fact his kids have been on Gameday multiple times wearing OSU gear. That is a pattern. The Sugar Bowl ballot is an isolated incident.
 

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Seeing as you are one of the "the media is out to get us" crowd, I expect you to feel that way.

Oh I am, am I? Feel free to back up your claim.

But you are simply deflecting away from my point. The poster implied that his link was proof that Herbstreit has some sort of OSU bias and that he "has been bought by ESPN".

No. It's suggestive of a bias. Of course it isn't absolute proof, that is an impossible bar to reach short of Kirk (or another reporter) coming out and stating that he had an ax to grind against Jim Tressel because he wasn't given the access he felt he was entitled to from 2002 onward.

I simply pointed out that the article does NOT prove anything of the sort. It's one man's opinion on what he thinks happened.

No. What happened is a documented fact. The rest of the article consists of Gerd's ruminations about why it happened.

It does not show any pattern, if you want to see a pattern, look at the various images of Herbstreit showing his OSU pride, his "homerism" when he is not working his day job(which is how it should be), or the fact his kids have been on Gameday multiple times wearing OSU gear. That is a pattern. 

See this is why I don't take you overly seriously. What you just described is exactly what you accuse those that you disagree with of doing. It's observational selection.

CincyOSU's picture

No. What happened is a documented fact.

No, the only documented fact is Herbstreit dropped OSU to 9th. His reason for doing so is unknown, but plenty of people on here want to draw their own conclusions and point to this as proof.
thus...

 
What you just described is exactly what you accuse those that you disagree with of doing. It's observational selection.

...I provide a counterpoint(s) when others spout off with their assumptions that Herbie hates OSU. It's not observational bias. Observational bias is pointing a few isolated incidents while ignoring the overall pattern...which myself and others have outlined numerous times on this subject and others.
 
 

hit_the_couch's picture

Thomas Aquinas must have a hell of a program down there; I don't really follow recruiting, but I have noticed them send kid after kid to many a BCS program.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

BassDropper's picture

Including Joey Bosa and Duron Carter

DIRECTIONER

SgtMdx's picture

For those of you who really follow recruiting, how much, if at all, has the national perception of the B1G affected the recruiting and commitments of the 4 &b 5 stars?

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45has2's picture

"It's not surprising that Illinois has struggled after hiring a MAC coach." Bo Schembechler, Woody Hayes, Ara Parseghian, Gary Pinkel, Nick Saban & Urban Meyer are all former MAC coaches.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

fear_the_nut70's picture

I had predicted Hand to TTUN for a while now, but have recently heard that Alabama might be the favorite (and know that Nick should never be counted out).  What do you know that leads you to believe he will probably go to that team?