Ohio State No. 4 in Coaches, AP Poll

November 3, 2013 at 9:20a    by Kyle Rowland    
82 Comments
Ohio State picked a good week to be away from the stadium.

Florida State closed Oregon's gap on the No. 2 ranking, while Ohio State remained fourth. Michigan State is 18th in the AP and 19th in the Coaches Poll and Wisconsin checks in at 21st and 22nd, respectively. 

COACHES POLL
RK Team Record
1 Alabama (55) 8-0
2 Oregon (5) 8-0
3 Florida State (3) 8-0
4 Ohio State 9-0
5 Baylor 7-0
6 Stanford 7-1
7 Clemson 8-1
8 Oklahoma 7-1
9 Missouri 8-1
10 Auburn 8-1
11 Oklahoma State 7-1
12 LSU 7-2
13 Texas A&M 7-2
14 Miami 7-1
15 South Carolina 7-2
16 Louisville 7-1
17 Fresno State 8-0
18 UCLA 6-2
19 Michigan State 8-1
20 Northern Illinois 9-0
21 Central Florida 6-1
22 Wisconsin 6-2
23 Texas Tech 7-2
24 Arizona State 6-2
25 Notre Dame 7-2
AP POLL
Rk Team Record
1 Alabama (52) 8-0
2 Oregon (2) 8-0
3 Florida State (6) 8-0
4 Ohio State  9-0
5 Baylor 7-0
6 Stanford 7-1
7 Auburn 8-1
8 Clemson 8-1
9 Missouri 8-1
10 LSU 7-2
11 Texas A&M 7-2
12 Oklahoma 7-1
13 South Carolina 7-2
14 Miami 7-1
15 Oklahoma State 7-1
16 UCLA 6-2
17 Fresno State 8-0
18 Michigan State 8-1
19 Central Florida 6-1
20 Louisville 7-1
21 Wisconsin 6-2
22 Northern Illinois 9-0
23 Arizona State 6-2
24 Notre Dame 7-2
25 Texas Tech 7-2

The BCS rankings will be released at 8:30 p.m.


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Matt's picture

Big week in BCS -- we need OU to beat Baylor, Stanford to beat Oregon, and LSU/Auburn/SEC East Champ to beat Bama.  OU is currently a 13 point dog, Stanford is 10 point dog, LSU is 10.5 point dog.  I don't see FSU losing given their remaining schedule -- outside shot that Florida could shock the world, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Geraffi's picture

Gators have the best D the Noles will face all season, and it's in the swamp, so I give the Gators a fighter's chance. Gator fan for a day!  

ScarletGray43157's picture

True in regard to Florida's D, but their offense is not big-time this year.  They'll need to get some breaks to beat FSU.

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

11Agrunt's picture

Seems like we are losing ground in the AP..we are almost 100 points behind FSU.
Should MSU win out, I expect them to be in the top 12 by the BIG Championship Game..that should help us. Wisconsin having the loss to ASU seems to be hurting a lot too..Wisconsin would be a top 15 team if they hadn't lost that game..too bad.
Last thing I see- Northwestern losing 5 straight REALLY hurts. That wasn't a "quality" win by voting terms, and now they are 4-5 (0-5), there is little respect for our game against them.
 
Here's to trying to focus on the goal at hand- win out and win the BIG Championship.

mb5599's picture

AP poll doesnt matter. we need to make up ground in the coaches poll as much as possible since it is part of the BCS.

Big B

00Buck's picture

aint gonna happen.................  votes are purchased here.....and here..........  and here......

Upon this Rock, I build my house....and Let no man put asunder

Hoody Wayes's picture

AP could matter, if its members collected their stones and split the vote.

CC's picture

In the end the Real issue is that msu lost to ND and azsu beat wispy. This season would look a lot different otherwise.

DefendYoungstown's picture

The pict for this story looks like UFM is taking Dontre in for discipline...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Neither of them are happy with the ranking......

canadabuck84's picture

I would very much like to know the breakdown of where the voters come from regionally speaking. I definitely think Michigan St is a top 15 team and if they keep winning a top 10 team come December. And Wisconsin is right up there too, given they should only have one loss. 

Adam

VestedInterest's picture

Most disappoint in MSU/Wiscy rankings.
Can't detract from being 9-0, but can detract from wins and potential wins.

Deadly Nuts's picture

MSU and Wisco should both be top 15.

LEBRON

Nkohl13's picture

The fact that 8-1 MSU is behind 7-2 LSU, 7-2 TA&M, 7-2 SCAR, and 6-2 UCLA is complete bullshit.

Quack_Quack's picture

Any of those Sec teams being ranked ahead of Ucla or Msu is completely ridiculous.

BassDropper's picture

Also a pretty bad Georgia team is close to breaking back in the top 25 

DIRECTIONER

DaiTheFlu's picture

Yes, because they beat an SEC team! I think it was Rece Davis a few weeks back that said regarding Mizzou's win over a bad Florida team "Florida isn't very good but they're still an SEC team". Funny thing is, if we still had Vandy on this year's schedule and won, I promise no one would have said the same thing.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

DaiTheFlu's picture

Agreed 100%. At this point, it's almost like the voters are trolling the B1G and giving the league the giant middle finger. The fact is, they CAN do this, as there's no accountability for how they vote. MSU barely squeaking into the top 20 after that utter dismantling of a ranked UM team is utterly and incomprehensibly laughable, as is the continued disrespect of Wisconsin.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

CC's picture

Accountably comes in bowl season. We need to win.

NCBuckeye2011's picture

The bias is definite. Mizzou was #14 when they beat at-the-time #22 Florida, and they moved up to #5 after that. Michigan State ranked #22 beats #21 Michigan and moves up to #18.
So #14 Missouri beating the #22 team(lower ranking than themselves)  earns them a  #5 ranking, while #22 MSU beating the #21 team earns them #18?? What kind of logic is this? 
I know none of it really matters for tOSU, as long as they win out they will at worst be playing for a Rose Bowl, but it just bothers me that the voters can be so biased!

route4buckeye's picture

Trying to figure out what this means for us. We could be dropping again if Baylor and Stanford win.

cal3713's picture

I firmly believe that A) two of the top three must lose for us to play in the NCG, B) if that happens, we will go to the NCG even if there are other undefeateds (i.e., Baylor), and C) that's all true regardless of how our strong/weak our strength of schedule ends up.

Buckeye1996's picture

No way FSU leaps over Oregon if Oregon and FSU both win out. Oregon's remaining schedule is more difficult than FSUs.
No way OSU jumps either of the three teams ahead of us unless those respective teams lose.
Our only hope is that two of the three lose which is possible. Bama, I think, has the greatest chance of losing one since they have a tough remaining schedule. 
That leaves Oregon or FSU to cough one up. Out of the two, I see Oregon as the most likely of the two (relatively speaking) to lose one. Stanford always gives them a rough ride and it is an away game for Oregon.
FSU could slip up at Florida. That is a rivalry game so we all know anything can happen.
Our chances of going into the NCG are slim or slightly better than slim. Not zero that is for sure.
If forced to pick a scenario and an opponent where OSU is playing in the championship game, I'd say it would be against FSU.
I really think Bama is going to lose one, but the question is whether Oregon can too. I don't think FSU will lose.

Buckeye1996's picture

By the way, I agree with most posters. MSU and Wisky should be ranked higher. Wisky got robbed. You can argue that MSU got robbed too on those phantom pass interference calls that severely killed MSU chances of winning against ND.
It is all about perception. Look at the B1G's top teams. I think OSU is clearly the best overall team followed by MSU, and Wisky. Now look at the SEC top teams. Alabama is clearly the best overall team followed by Missouri and Auburn.
It is all perception. It is difficult to tell whether the top three teams in the B1G match up well with the top three in the SEC. I think they do, but we don't know how good each of these teams are relative to the other teams in their conferences. For example how big is the gap between the top teams in the B1G versus the rest of the B1G and conversely how big is the gap between the top teams in the SEC versus the rest of the SEC? And how do these differences translate between the quality of each respective conference - for all the conferences?
Only way is to match them up. That is why I can't wait for the playoff system. We will get these matchups, or at least some of these matchups.

RedStorm45's picture

This shows how bogus the polls are.  Baylor and Stanford both had a bye, yet Baylor jumped Stanford.
 
Baylor was much more impressive during their bye week.

Citrus's picture

Citrus' top 25

Note: I have a feeling that tOSU plays Stanford at the end of the season. If Stanford ends the year with one loss, and FSU and Bama falls (Oregon would lose to Stanford in this scenario so would be out) I think it is a Stanford tOSU NCG. Otherwise, it is tOSU v Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Another prediction, the voters will start being kinder to tOSU as the season winds down. Notice that yesterdays headlines were "Ohio State routs Purdue, extends win streak to 21." It may not be enough to jump undefeated teams ahead of us but it will prevent any one loss team from jumping us.

1  Alabama  8-0 (only because they have won a ton of national titles)
2  Oregon  8-0  (predication: will lose to Stanford)
3  Florida State 8-0 (prediction: will lose to Florida)
4  Ohio State   9-0 (prediction: will be 3 after bye-week, will go to NCG as only undefeated major conference team)
5  Stanford 7-1
6  Baylor 7-0 (prediction: about to be exposed)
7  Mizzou  8-1
8  Oklahoma  8-1
9  LSU  7-2
(probably being generous)
10  Auburn  8-1
11  Michigan State 7-1 (predication: will climb to about 13)
12  Clemson  7-1
13  South Carolina  7-2
14  Oklahoma State  7-1
15  Miami  7-1
(prediction: will end in low 20s)
16  UCLA  6-2
17  Wisconsin  6-2 (prediction: will end at about 15)
18  Texas A&M 7-2  (prediction: goes 1-2 from here forward)
19  Central Florida  6-1
20  Louisville  7-1
21  Fresno State  8-0
22  Northern Illinois  9-0
23  Arizona State  6-2
24  Texas Tech 7-2
25  TTUN  7-2 (Only because TTUN throttled ND which occupied this position. ND and TTUN have the same record and TTUN beat ND head to head).

wojodta's picture

I'd love for FSU to go down to UF, but I just don't see how it's possible. Florida is not very good this year. I don't think they have the weapons to score with FSU.

Citrus's picture

Admittedly, the predictions are one part analysis and two parts wishful thinking.

However, good teams normally derp a game they shouldn't. Florida isn't good but they aren't terrible. FSU is bound to have a bad game sometime. I think it will happen v a Florida team just good enough to convert it into a loss.

igo43's picture

I'd like to see this happen too, for obvious reasons, but the fallacy of our thinking is in the hope that FSU will somehow be unprepared for the game, or that they'll somehow lay an egg against UF. I still have a glimmer of hope based on the fact that their QB threw a few picks against UM, so maybe UF will be the recipient of some turnover gifts.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

Hoody Wayes's picture

Florida's bigger than the U. I don't think FSU has faced a team like the Gators.
See that Georgia game? The Gators don't ball...they brawl.

Buckeye1996's picture

That would be a sweet outcome on many levels. I'd love to shut out both the SEC and the ACC. I think FSU is legit, but the other ACC teams are good to bad, not great. Many of the SEC teams are overrated. A&M, SC, LSU and even Auburn...good teams but OVERRATED. MSU and Wisky....good teams but UNDERRATED.
The PAC remains a mystery to me. I think Oregon is a great team but I've thought the same for the past few years when they ultimately did not deliver in BCS bowl games.

wojodta's picture

I feel like every major conference is overrated except the B1G and Big 12.

tragictones's picture

Michigan and Notre Dame don't have the same record.
Michigan is 6-2
Notre Dame is 7-2
But I wouldn't blame you if you still kept UM higher because of head to head with  same amount of losses

Citrus's picture

Good catch, I was thinking in terms of number of losses.

cplunk's picture

Michigan State held a ranked power conference team to -48 yards rushing. Negative 48 yards rushing. I've never seen anybody do that ever. Not against FCS teams, not against small conference schools, not against anybody. There is absolutely no way they should not be in the top ten. 

Citrus's picture

You're right. It M St has one loss by 4 at ND early in the season. It seems they are figuring things out over there. M St should get more respect.

GoBucksOSU's picture

Baylor was ahead of Stanford in both polls last week. It is the BCS that Stanford is ahead of Baylor.

Buckeye1996's picture

Baylor has no business being rated ahead of Stanford in my opinion. Wins over Wofford, Buffalo, and LA-Monroe? Ok. Warm up games just like our beloved OSU BUT.......
The remaining Baylor wins come against West Virginia, Kansas State, Iowa State and Kansas. All four teams have a combined win loss record of 11-22 if my math is correct.
Next up for Baylor are tough games with Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Texas.
I think they will drop one or maybe three of those and that will be the end of Baylor in terms of being ahead of Stanford in the rankings.

GoBucksOSU's picture

My post was pointing out that the buckshot description is wrong as it said Baylor jumped Stanford in both polls when Baylor was already ahead of Stanford in last week.

Buckeye1996's picture

Yes. I understood your post.
Still Baylor shouldn't be ahead of Stanford. This week or last week...lol.

ohhiyo's picture

so Wisconson suppose to have the best rushing attack in the nation
Mich St is suppose to have the best defense in the nation
ohio state is one of the best teams in the nation
ANDDDD the big 10 still sucks

RedStorm45's picture

The Big Ten does suck.

Poison nuts's picture

No, not the way it's portrayed as. It's not the 1st or 2nd best conference, but it's not as bad as it's made out to be by national media...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

RedStorm45's picture

It is behind the SEC, PAC 12, ACC, and Big 12.  What games are you guys watching?

Kurt's picture

You should take a look at the ACC one more time.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings
Duke has a very real chance of winning the Coastal.

SilverState's picture

A rare snapshot capturing the Ky-le in his native habitat, bringing the highest quality coverage to his fellow warriors.

Hovenaut's picture

Ineligible last year, not enough clout this year.

Done with all this BcS.

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

CC's picture

Hov, last year there were 6 undefeated teams at this point. There is still a long way to go. We could see 4 of them go down this week.

Hovenaut's picture

You're right, and I'll always keep hope.

Ready for a change.....just cannot wrap my mind around the fact the so-called experts who vote have no respect for a tradition-rich major college football program on a serious win streak.

Give me the day all this is settled on the field.

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

igo43's picture

I'd love for anyone to logically tell me how Notre Dame belongs in the top 25 after their showing yesterday against Navy.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

Sean N's picture

Their two losses are "good" losses and they have two good wins (ASU and the Michigan State team everyone seems to have a hard on for here) an another decent win vs USC. If anything, I think they are underrated.

igo43's picture

Eh...ok. I definitely understand the MSU win, but I'm not sold on ASU and especially not a USC team that's fired their coach already.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

ScarletGray43157's picture

Logically?  Logic is applied in the polls? seriously???  In any case, I can't give you a logical reason. 

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

igo43's picture

LOL, good point!

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

Buckeye1996's picture

The playoff scenario this year would have been a perfect system assuming the top 4 all win out.
Baylor, if they win out, would be left as the dangling node.
Of course, a media firestorm focusing on the "Baylor screw job" would then start calling for a playoff expansion...lol

cplunk's picture

If Baylor were to win out, there is a very good chance they would jump us. Their next three games are their highest ranked opponents. If all the undefeateds were to win out this year there would be a very good chance we would not even make a four team playoff.

kareemabduljacobb's picture

We lost 2 pts in the AP poll since last week.. we need at least 3 of bama, oregon, fsu and baylor to lose, otherwise we're Rose Bowl bound.
 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Baylor leapfrogs Stanford for the No. 5 spot in both polls.

How?  Was Baylor more impressive against Bye Week than Stanford was?

Class of 2010.

Deadly Nuts's picture

Has something to do with Oregon State getting throttled at home vs. USC...

LEBRON

Joe Beale's picture

Hard to understand all the love for Stanford. Say what you want about MSU's offense, but at least their one loss was against a ranked team. Stanford lost to a Utah team that is now 0-4 in their other conference games and 4-4 overall. 

Quack_Quack's picture

Stanford does have a bunch of quality wins though and is probably superior to Msu offensively.

Deadly Nuts's picture

All Stanford's "quality" wins are going down the drain. Washington, Washington State and Oregon State have fallen off the map.

LEBRON

Quack_Quack's picture

Washington, Asu and especially Ucla are all quality wins imo.  Washington just ran into the pac 12 gauntlet.  Stanford, Oregon and Arizona State is a brutal stretch.

Citrus's picture

Stanford's loss is an obvious derp. That's why I am more forgiving. I think if M-State plays ND now, ND gets absolutely destroyed.

Buckeye1996's picture

Yes. Stanford has beat 4 teams who were ranked in the top 25, at least at the time they played them. That's the thing is that measuring the overall schedule difficulty is a fluid process that is carried out throughout the season.
MSU is underrated. No doubt about it. I guess all this will get worked out in the end, and next year we will be arguing over who should get the 4th playoff spot...lol.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

But Stanford isn't a Big Ten team. All other arguments are invalid.

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

N8thegr8's picture

The really sad thing is if this team wins out and ends up being 25-0 in the past 2 years they will be sitting in the WHAC and being told "Congratulations, you are going to the Rose Bowl." We all try to rationalize it by saying the Rose Bowl is great and yadda yadda. But when you're a player and have yet to lose a game in 2 seasons it has to be disheartening. What more does this team need to do? Some of the talking heads say last year's 12-0 doesn't count but in the same breath they defend Alabama being #1 because they are the defending champions. So the double standard is alright if it benefits the SEC. All these fools who say OSU would be the 5th or 6th best team in the SEC are really sippin on something they need to start sharing. Everyone wants to say all they need to do is win and it works itself out, but that doesn't seem to be working. ESPN is reading the tea leaves and starting to realize OSU might just win out. In my opinion all the talk about a 1 loss team from the SEC, ACC, Pac12 has really ramped up the past 2 weeks. When the hell did anyone ever seriously consider the ACC to be good in anything besides basketball? Now I am ranting. Just because Clemson beat Georgia, it's like ESPN had a gut check and said "oh shit. we need to talk up the ACC so the farce that is the SEC doesn't get exposed!!!" Jadeveon Clown-show gets exposed after all the months of hype and they do the same thing with that. Anyways, my original point... I feel bad that this team busts their ass off and really won't get the eward they deserve. 

"Play for Ohio State or get beat by Ohio State. That simple." - Kirk Barton 

Buckeye1996's picture

So just to show how the rankings have become a tool to troll, check out John Wilner's rankings. He has OSU at #8 behind the likes of Stanford, Clemson, Auburn, and Missouri. LMAO!
 
http://www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/...

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

I refuse to give him a pageview. These idiots forget we started the season #2 and played for the first several games without our starting RB and QB. F these fools. 

MountainMan957's picture

Lets just focus on the task at hand... Throttling this bye week. 

ohiowhitesnake's picture

probably be passed by Baylor after they lose to OU

igo43's picture

Ghost helmet sticker until I get to 100. I hate bye weeks, and this will be the 2nd one this season.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

N8thegr8's picture

+1 to get you closer!

"Play for Ohio State or get beat by Ohio State. That simple." - Kirk Barton 

igo43's picture

Thanks! Great quote, BTW.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH

WiliestBuckeye's picture

All I have to say is, the PAC-12 Rose Bowl representative better pray we get into the NCG. If we're sitting there at 25-0, and not getting a chance to play for the title, we will have one angry OSU football team with Urban Meyer as their coach.

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."

stittracer99's picture

Obviously most of the attention for us has been on the top 5 in the polls, but the way this system works, we also need to be rooting for as many losses as possible for teams between us and MSU/Wisc in the rankings. Not only will it help to improve our strength of schedule but also hurt everyone else's in front of us. Just a quick look at the schedules for the teams in the top 20, and there are guaranteed losses coming in there for several of them. Would also be nice for Michigan to come into The Game at 10-2 (best case scenario at this point) and sneak back into the top 25.
All that being said, I still believe we need losses for those teams ahead of us. But if Sparty can sneak into the top 10 for the B1G championship game it certainly gives us a better chance. Would be one final statement in the last game of the season with all the voters watching.

00Buck's picture

By keeping the BIG down in the rankings..... (All teams in close relation to play tOSU) means that even if the BUCKS crush them does not improve their rankings by score......it's all in the hands of the human biased morons..........when yeeaaarrrssss ago the BCS was supposed to have been born to remove those problems...but ESPN learned quickly that to garner votes the way THEY wanted..... all they had to do was HIRE THE FREAKIN VOTER...... don't believe it, ask them for a copy of their employee hire records, for the 1st and second years of the BCS........  I did that like 9 years ago, the results were astounding........  IF you had a vote in the NCAA via coaching/AP or harris, you were on ESPN's payroll  now isn't that just a little ironic !!!   including Urban F. Meyer  it's a damned shame too

Upon this Rock, I build my house....and Let no man put asunder

justanotherbuckeye22's picture

glad its last year of  bcs.
Kenneth massey has  us ranked  8th, peter wolf  has us  7th
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

RedStorm45's picture

Edit to my earlier post - the tag line by 11W staff is incorrect.  Baylor was 5th last week in both polls.