In Documentary, Arian Foster Admits to Taking Money at Tennessee

By DJ Byrnes on September 20, 2013 at 2:00p
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Arian Foster admitted something that won't surprise too many people: he took money and other benefits while playing at the University of Tennessee:

I don't know if this will throw us into an NCAA investigation -- my senior year, I was getting money on the side. I really didn't have any money. I had to either pay the rent or buy some food. I remember the feeling of like, 'Man, be careful.' But there's nothing wrong with it. And you're not going to convince me that there is something wrong with it.

Well... that just seems completely reasonable. Oh, and then there's possibly the most NCAA/amateurism anecdote of all time:

I called my coach and I said, 'Coach, we don't have no food. We don't have no money. We're hungry. Either you give us some food, or I'm gonna go do something stupid.' He came down and he brought like 50 tacos for like four or five of us. Which is an NCAA violation. [laughs] But then, I walk up to the facility and I see my coach pull up in a brand new Lexus.

How many more times does this yarn have to be spun before there's some sort of reform?


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johnblairgobucks's picture

50 tacos for 4.....wait, maybe it was 5, guys? Must have had the munchies.

sb97's picture

For four or five College guys that also happen to be football players?  That sounds about right to me.

johnblairgobucks's picture

Sure, 10 tacos/guy? I played college football, and this wasn't in my diet. Though, he could have been partying with 3/4 Brady Hokes.

Abe Froman's picture

What he failed to mention was that UT provides a stipend for rent and they have food provided at university halls.  It wasn'tlike he was homeless.  He just (like many others) made poor decisions on where his stipend should go.  Don't compound the problem by paying them.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

blh's picture

You know, at first you feel sympathy for these guys, but then you get to the part where he says he had to choose between "paying rent" or "buying food." No one made him rent an apartment rather than live in the free housing that was provided to him. And even if he did, he gets free food as part of his schollie, so I don't see why he couldn't eat that at the very least. It makes me think Foster is lying about the situation, or at the very least, being very disingenuous about his decision to accept money. I'm all for giving these guys a stipend, but lets stop pretending that they are starving on the streets while working for our entertainment.

slippy's picture

I don't understand the stipend.  What's preventing football players from taking out loans like the rest of us?

blh's picture

Nothing, you're correct, they could certainly do that also. Take a 10 grand loan and use that for rent for 4 years and problem solved. The stipend, for me, is just something that would help fill any gaps that the schollie doesn't cover and give them a little pocket money so that they can do normal college student things without worrying about it.
Basically, I'm just saying that if you want to make the colleges into the official minor leagues of the NFL with full salaries, that's fine. Its not what I want to see happen, but if it does, lets stop pretending that it happened because the players needed the money in order to avoid starvation and homelessness. If Foster needs to justify cheating in order to assuage his conscience, fine, but we all know its BS.

d5k's picture

He likely spent too much money on beer or video games and then money got tight.  Doesn't change the massive gap between coach pay and player compensation and the ridiculous NCAA rules.  Please stop calling every NCAA violation "cheating" as that's like calling me a criminal for running a yellow light that turned red as I cleared the intersection.

blh's picture

Gonna have to disagree with your analogy there. Whether we agree with the rules or not, its pretty clear that paying players is not allowed. Therefore, its "cheating." Full stop, end of discussion. Its not like he got some sort of gray zone extra benefit like a bagel during a recruiting visit, which is more analogous to you running a yellow light. So while I agree that not every NCAA violation is "cheating," I'm pretty comfortable calling this one that.

Keith's picture

And they do get a stipend.  Former Wisconsin DE O'Brien Schofield has been quoted saying he received $1100 stipend each month.  

rampageripster's picture

I lived on a grand a month in college... so players are getting more than I did PLUS free food and tuition

Cause I couldn't go for three

Jhesse17's picture

And you made the university how much? Oh that's right. Zero dollars, zero cents.

BSTP DeCon's picture

No bank would give him a personal loan if he makes $0 per month. That wouldn't make any sense if they did...

Jdadams01's picture

Fat finger down vote. Sorry man

cal3713's picture

I was going to say this too... free food and board are part of the scholarship.  Everyone loves to bitch about how these players don't get compensated, but seriously, free food, free rent, free college, free medical care, and free preparatory training for the NFL??  Has anyone actually calculated how much all of that would cost if you weren't on scholarship?  It's probably more that most people in America make in a year.

d5k's picture

Probably like $40k per year on average.  But the education utility is not the same as the market value of the education for most of the athletes which is well documented.  So the opportunity cost is not $40k.  The training is basically part of the job the same way that learning how to use different software can be part of a normal white collar job.  Still carry that with you.  In terms of the cost of living stuff they probably get $10k-15k per year + the food they get at the facilities.

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

40K? With the education? Your numbers don't add up, probably because there are many, many real people (non-athletes) who pay that same amount, without all the perks or possibility that they make the NFL and make millions upon millions.

d5k's picture

When someone learns how to use excel in an internship he gets to use that to get a good job later on with owing nothing to the internship provider.  It has value but it wouldn't be provided unless it was a win-win proposition, the same with players learning how to play football and you know, actually playing football for the university.

Jhesse17's picture

Although he very well may be sensationalizing, don't you think it's possible that maybe the money he pockets goes back to help his family buy food? And even if he's totally lying out of his ass, couldn't that be possible for another player? 

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Possible or not it's completely irrelevant to the discussion.

ChazBuckeye's picture

I know I'm shocked...........

Italicized font for our humor impaired individuals;-)

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tussey's picture

humor impaired, lolz

HandsOfSweed's picture

That GIF made me hungry for a Tangwich and a trip to the Nudie-Bar.

Unky Buck's picture


They forgot the italics though...

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d5k's picture

He gets a housing allowance for rent too likely equivalent to the room & board fee for the dorm, and apartments are typically cheaper than dorms.  They get enough to barely cover their needs so if they spend money on enough wants rather than needs they will run out.  But it isn't some huge margin.  They already get stipends, the debate is over "true cost of living" increases.  

Jeeves's picture

Is there a tiny little violin player emoticon? Imagine that right here.

Denny's picture

If you aren't mad about a kid being denied tacos by a 'non-profit' institution built on the backs of exploited and grossly underpaid labor, it is clear that you have no soul.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

Imagine if it were taquitos that he was denied.

vacuuming sucks

Denny's picture

Now I'm really angry.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

Sorry, but I will reference the photo of the Buckeyes on the plane to Cali last weekend and once again say that big time college football players have perks, on top of perks, next to other perks, surrounded by other perks.  Money to pay rent and buy food...........HA!!!!  To put it kindly, HORSE HOCKEY!!!!!

vacuuming sucks

GoBucksToledo's picture

That's a lot of perks

Maestro's picture

Downright perky.

vacuuming sucks

ep's picture

as someone who has not seen this photo, what am I missing?

vitaminB's picture

I don't see how being able to fly in an air-o-plane is some kind of perk.  Did you expect the university to make them travel by van?  They were going across the country to make millions for their school.  You act as if they were on a leer jet with hookers and blow.  They were flying in coach across the country, that's hardly a good time.

BTBuckeye's picture

Fulmer Cup points are going to have to be retroactively adjusted

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

So the coach at the time brought him food, violated the NCAA rules, and then, presumably, filed the form with the NCAA that stated the coach wasn't aware of an NCAA violation.  The only logical course is to give the coach a show cause and have the NFL suspend Foster for half his games this season.

Yeti's have feelings too.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Phillip Fulmer could probably eat 50 tacos by himself. 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Soft Tacos? I could eat at least 15 when I was 19.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Fulmer prefers the crunchy ones. They make more noise when he's chomping them down.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Hard taco love? Gross.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

FindlayBuck's picture

They do receive money for housing that would cover the cost of the dorm, I knew of a few college football players who would find apartments cheaper than dorms, and pocket the remaining money for living expenses. There is no way that the "4 or 5 guys" living with Arian wouldn't be able to pay the rent, and then some.

luckynutz's picture

I know this is in no way related...but the talk about tacos makes me think of aaron crafts roomies on twitter and their tuesday taco night. Ha...tennessee...aaron craft...tacos. maybe there is something to this...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

So how long before Woodson finally admits it?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Admits what? 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Taking money.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

tennbuckeye19's picture

And that Peyton Manning should've won the Heisman...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I expect a few resident UM fans to dispute this.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BME_Buckeye's picture

When and on what grounds are you making this statement?

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Right here:
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/13659574/ncaa-cures-its-apathy-wh...

I believe his teammate, I forget his name (Marcus Ray maybe?), quietly sat out some games the following season for taking money as well.

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