In Documentary, Arian Foster Admits to Taking Money at Tennessee

September 20, 2013 at 2:00p    by DJ Byrnes    
112 Comments

Arian Foster admitted something that won't surprise too many people: he took money and other benefits while playing at the University of Tennessee:

I don't know if this will throw us into an NCAA investigation -- my senior year, I was getting money on the side. I really didn't have any money. I had to either pay the rent or buy some food. I remember the feeling of like, 'Man, be careful.' But there's nothing wrong with it. And you're not going to convince me that there is something wrong with it.

Well... that just seems completely reasonable. Oh, and then there's possibly the most NCAA/amateurism anecdote of all time:

I called my coach and I said, 'Coach, we don't have no food. We don't have no money. We're hungry. Either you give us some food, or I'm gonna go do something stupid.' He came down and he brought like 50 tacos for like four or five of us. Which is an NCAA violation. [laughs] But then, I walk up to the facility and I see my coach pull up in a brand new Lexus.

How many more times does this yarn have to be spun before there's some sort of reform?


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johnblairgobucks's picture

50 tacos for 4.....wait, maybe it was 5, guys? Must have had the munchies.

sb97's picture

For four or five College guys that also happen to be football players?  That sounds about right to me.

johnblairgobucks's picture

Sure, 10 tacos/guy? I played college football, and this wasn't in my diet. Though, he could have been partying with 3/4 Brady Hokes.

Abe Froman's picture

What he failed to mention was that UT provides a stipend for rent and they have food provided at university halls.  It wasn'tlike he was homeless.  He just (like many others) made poor decisions on where his stipend should go.  Don't compound the problem by paying them.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Bucks's picture

^ Absolutely.

blh's picture

You know, at first you feel sympathy for these guys, but then you get to the part where he says he had to choose between "paying rent" or "buying food." No one made him rent an apartment rather than live in the free housing that was provided to him. And even if he did, he gets free food as part of his schollie, so I don't see why he couldn't eat that at the very least. It makes me think Foster is lying about the situation, or at the very least, being very disingenuous about his decision to accept money. I'm all for giving these guys a stipend, but lets stop pretending that they are starving on the streets while working for our entertainment.

slippy's picture

I don't understand the stipend.  What's preventing football players from taking out loans like the rest of us?

blh's picture

Nothing, you're correct, they could certainly do that also. Take a 10 grand loan and use that for rent for 4 years and problem solved. The stipend, for me, is just something that would help fill any gaps that the schollie doesn't cover and give them a little pocket money so that they can do normal college student things without worrying about it.
Basically, I'm just saying that if you want to make the colleges into the official minor leagues of the NFL with full salaries, that's fine. Its not what I want to see happen, but if it does, lets stop pretending that it happened because the players needed the money in order to avoid starvation and homelessness. If Foster needs to justify cheating in order to assuage his conscience, fine, but we all know its BS.

d5k's picture

He likely spent too much money on beer or video games and then money got tight.  Doesn't change the massive gap between coach pay and player compensation and the ridiculous NCAA rules.  Please stop calling every NCAA violation "cheating" as that's like calling me a criminal for running a yellow light that turned red as I cleared the intersection.

blh's picture

Gonna have to disagree with your analogy there. Whether we agree with the rules or not, its pretty clear that paying players is not allowed. Therefore, its "cheating." Full stop, end of discussion. Its not like he got some sort of gray zone extra benefit like a bagel during a recruiting visit, which is more analogous to you running a yellow light. So while I agree that not every NCAA violation is "cheating," I'm pretty comfortable calling this one that.

Keith's picture

And they do get a stipend.  Former Wisconsin DE O'Brien Schofield has been quoted saying he received $1100 stipend each month.  

rampageripster's picture

I lived on a grand a month in college... so players are getting more than I did PLUS free food and tuition

Cause I couldn't go for three

Jhesse17's picture

And you made the university how much? Oh that's right. Zero dollars, zero cents.

BSTP DeCon's picture

No bank would give him a personal loan if he makes $0 per month. That wouldn't make any sense if they did...

Jdadams01's picture

Fat finger down vote. Sorry man

cal3713's picture

I was going to say this too... free food and board are part of the scholarship.  Everyone loves to bitch about how these players don't get compensated, but seriously, free food, free rent, free college, free medical care, and free preparatory training for the NFL??  Has anyone actually calculated how much all of that would cost if you weren't on scholarship?  It's probably more that most people in America make in a year.

d5k's picture

Probably like $40k per year on average.  But the education utility is not the same as the market value of the education for most of the athletes which is well documented.  So the opportunity cost is not $40k.  The training is basically part of the job the same way that learning how to use different software can be part of a normal white collar job.  Still carry that with you.  In terms of the cost of living stuff they probably get $10k-15k per year + the food they get at the facilities.

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

40K? With the education? Your numbers don't add up, probably because there are many, many real people (non-athletes) who pay that same amount, without all the perks or possibility that they make the NFL and make millions upon millions.

d5k's picture

When someone learns how to use excel in an internship he gets to use that to get a good job later on with owing nothing to the internship provider.  It has value but it wouldn't be provided unless it was a win-win proposition, the same with players learning how to play football and you know, actually playing football for the university.

Jhesse17's picture

Although he very well may be sensationalizing, don't you think it's possible that maybe the money he pockets goes back to help his family buy food? And even if he's totally lying out of his ass, couldn't that be possible for another player? 

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Possible or not it's completely irrelevant to the discussion.

ChazBuckeye's picture

I know I'm shocked...........

Italicized font for our humor impaired individuals;-)

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

tussey's picture

humor impaired, lolz

HandsOfSweed's picture

That GIF made me hungry for a Tangwich and a trip to the Nudie-Bar.

Unky Buck's picture


They forgot the italics though...

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d5k's picture

He gets a housing allowance for rent too likely equivalent to the room & board fee for the dorm, and apartments are typically cheaper than dorms.  They get enough to barely cover their needs so if they spend money on enough wants rather than needs they will run out.  But it isn't some huge margin.  They already get stipends, the debate is over "true cost of living" increases.  

Jeeves's picture

Is there a tiny little violin player emoticon? Imagine that right here.

Denny's picture

If you aren't mad about a kid being denied tacos by a 'non-profit' institution built on the backs of exploited and grossly underpaid labor, it is clear that you have no soul.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

Imagine if it were taquitos that he was denied.

vacuuming sucks

Denny's picture

Now I'm really angry.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

Sorry, but I will reference the photo of the Buckeyes on the plane to Cali last weekend and once again say that big time college football players have perks, on top of perks, next to other perks, surrounded by other perks.  Money to pay rent and buy food...........HA!!!!  To put it kindly, HORSE HOCKEY!!!!!

vacuuming sucks

GoBucksToledo's picture

That's a lot of perks

Maestro's picture

Downright perky.

vacuuming sucks

ep's picture

as someone who has not seen this photo, what am I missing?

vitaminB's picture

I don't see how being able to fly in an air-o-plane is some kind of perk.  Did you expect the university to make them travel by van?  They were going across the country to make millions for their school.  You act as if they were on a leer jet with hookers and blow.  They were flying in coach across the country, that's hardly a good time.

BTBuckeye's picture

Fulmer Cup points are going to have to be retroactively adjusted

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

So the coach at the time brought him food, violated the NCAA rules, and then, presumably, filed the form with the NCAA that stated the coach wasn't aware of an NCAA violation.  The only logical course is to give the coach a show cause and have the NFL suspend Foster for half his games this season.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Phillip Fulmer could probably eat 50 tacos by himself. 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Soft Tacos? I could eat at least 15 when I was 19.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Fulmer prefers the crunchy ones. They make more noise when he's chomping them down.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Hard taco love? Gross.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

FindlayBuck's picture

They do receive money for housing that would cover the cost of the dorm, I knew of a few college football players who would find apartments cheaper than dorms, and pocket the remaining money for living expenses. There is no way that the "4 or 5 guys" living with Arian wouldn't be able to pay the rent, and then some.

luckynutz's picture

I know this is in no way related...but the talk about tacos makes me think of aaron crafts roomies on twitter and their tuesday taco night. Ha...tennessee...aaron craft...tacos. maybe there is something to this...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

So how long before Woodson finally admits it?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Admits what? 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Taking money.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

tennbuckeye19's picture

And that Peyton Manning should've won the Heisman...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I expect a few resident UM fans to dispute this.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BME_Buckeye's picture

When and on what grounds are you making this statement?

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Right here:
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/13659574/ncaa-cures-its-apathy-wh...

I believe his teammate, I forget his name (Marcus Ray maybe?), quietly sat out some games the following season for taking money as well.

Aesculus.'s picture

You can split hairs and say they get get money and schollys so they should be happy.  But the reality is they don't get anywhere near their market value.  It's not fair to compare our own college experience to theirs because we didn't help the university make millions upon millions of dollars every year.  What it costs for a major university to give a kid a 4 year ride is nothing compared to what the team brings in.  It's inequality under the guise of education.  

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

blh's picture

Of course they don't make their market value. Of course, while I was in college, I didn't make my market value either, in the sense that I could have quit school and gone to work and gotten paid whatever the market was willing to pay me. I traded that opportunity to get an education instead and make more money once I had graduated.
That however is separate from that fact that no school could afford to pay them their market value. That's what the NFL is for. And if you say instead, fine, lets pay them all 50K a year, what's to stop them from continuing to take money on the side? I make plenty of money now, but if someone said, hey, here's an extra 500 bucks, I sure as heck wouldn't turn that down.
Frankly, the only way its ever going to be "fair" for the players is if we end college sports completely. That's it, we just end this all and move to an European club model and totally disassociate sports from education. I don't think a lot of us are going to enjoy that very much though.

brandonbauer87's picture

Quit making so much sense.  

BuckeyePoetLaureate's picture

I'll build on your point.  In most of these discussions, we really only think about the Pryors or Manziels or Arian Fosters.  Do they make their "market value?"  No. What about all of the other guys on the team?  Would an NFL team, if they were allowed to, pay a D1 backup punter 50 grand a year?  Of course not. The guy would not have a spot on an NFL roster at all.
He might be working as an engineer, a financial planner or a teacher.  Why?  Because he got a free education, free medical care, free housing, free food and excellent academic support for four or five years.

Proud alumnus of the Ohio State Creative Writing MFA Program.  Creator of the writing craft site Great Writers Steal.

Aesculus.'s picture

The difference between your market value and a football players is that they actually make millions of dollars that go to other people, you sir, didn't.
Paying them a reasonable stipend would decrease the number of player taking money on the side.  See above video for prime example.
What's "fair" is paying them more than pennies on the dollar.  Fine then, the university takes money to fund the other athletics and to pay the salaries of coaches, staff, ect...  give back to the players who deserve it.

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

BuckeyePoetLaureate's picture

Friend, they DO get a stipend.  And housing allowance.  And free food.  And free tuition.  And free health care.  And free Gatorade.  And free clothes.  And free bowl gifts. 
From Forbes:

Value of College Football Scholarship Exceeds $2 Million for College Football's Top 25
Another analysis you may find interesting.
While Pryor and Manziel and the superstars may be making under "market value," the other 99% of players are making out like bandits.  You may say that guys like Manziel should be allowed to go to some kind of minor league football, and I don't think I disagree.  Minor league baseball players, on average, receive less value than a college football player, and certainly not the education that boosts their overall earning power.
For the vast majority of colleges, athletics are a losing proposition.  The college subsidizes the football team.  We're very lucky at Ohio State in that the football and basketball teams make the athletics department self-sufficient.
Arian Foster claimed he couldn't eat and pay rent when he was, in fact, receiving free food and free rent.
 

Proud alumnus of the Ohio State Creative Writing MFA Program.  Creator of the writing craft site Great Writers Steal.

Aesculus.'s picture

So 17,000 a year is making out like a bandit?!?  I don't think so... The Federal Poverty guideline per year, $20,107.50 at 175%.  What's the difference in gross revenue for the Browns vs. The Buckeyes?
Forbes doesn't seem too far off.  

 
- I’m fine with minor adjustments to current student-athlete scholarships in order to account for the “full cost of attendance”, which some have estimated would be an extra $3,000-5,000 per year for all student-athletes.
- And I believe that universities should pay individual /student-athletes a share of royalties generated from merchandise/jersey sales or use-of-likeness in video games or promotional/advertising material to the extent that such royalties can be tied back to individual players, conditional upon that student’s eventual graduation from the school.

TV contracts.  Merchandise deals, tickets and stadium receipts.  These are all real income, not potential income as the Forbes writer argues.  Not to mentioned the student earned the degree by meeting the requirements.  
If the NFL teams can pay millions the major FBS schools can pay more than $17,000.  

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

741's picture

Forbes' website is terrible, but this is an excellent article that is worth reading. Thanks for the link.

Maestro's picture

Give me some solid evidence that "paying them a reasonable stipend would decreased the number of players taking money on the side."  If the Foster feels he is doing nothing wrong by taking money what is a couple thousand bucks going to do to change that mindset.  The stipend example is so often thrown out there as some sort of panacea.  I say BS, kids who are willing to take and take and take aren't going to stop because of a few extra bucks.
 

vacuuming sucks

tennbuckeye19's picture

Mo money, Mo tacos, Mo problems...

Aesculus.'s picture

So why not give them the money after they graduate?  Earn your diploma and cash in?  The point is that the universities are making money hand over fist off kids.  It's not right.  
If Urban recruits kids with solid families who teach their children to follow the rules and the kids have enough money for rent and food.  Then someone gives them a choice to seriously jeopardize themselves  and the program by taking money under the table.  If that's the kind of system you want to have, and the player takes the money and gets caught, then that's his choice.  Maybe you take the money, but I don't.
 

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

Jhesse17's picture

You can't seriously be comparing the money you would make on the open market to the money these kids rake in for their schools. As CC would say: C'mon Man! To address your second point, colleges absolutely can afford to pay the kids at least 10-20% of what they make for the university a year.

Aesculus.'s picture

The point everyone seems to sidestep is the huge discrepancy between revenue gained and revenue earned.  You've got a governing body that acts like a bunch of communist dictators by telling people who can sell their own stuff and who can't.  I mean, seriously!?  Please think about how ridiculous that is.  
My point about their worth on the open market is to underline the fact they get paid pennies to make millions for others.  It's not right.  I'm not saying give them all the money, I'm not declaring college football players in the same pay grade as pros.  I'm just pointing out their getting ripped off.  Just like the Forbes article and just like Arian Foster.
This shit happens all the time.  Wake up.

11/8/2014 @Michigan State aka Payback

kyletp2's picture

The IRS would have a problem with it!! Did you report it??? Shut up pea brain before you get yourself in serious trouble

You are lame if you tweet!

d5k's picture

The IRS doesn't really care about $50 of unpaid taxes.

gobucks96's picture

It does if (must not include a political reference......).

BTBuckeye's picture

NCAA investigator: "Do you remember any condiments, such as hot sauce or con queso dip being provided in addition to the tacos?"
 

tennbuckeye19's picture

So did the coach get a new Lexus because he had taco wrappers and crumbs in his old one? 

gobucks96's picture

Somehow I think this has more to do with his financial planning and budgeting.. Even when they get to the NFL most of the people go broke after ten years.

Earle's picture

If free tacos are wrong, I don't wanna be--wait, where'd he get the tacos from?

Just say no to italics abuse.

Unky Buck's picture

From this guy...

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tennbuckeye19's picture

I don't remember Phillip Fulmer being in all that great of shape.

Unky Buck's picture

It was deceptive. When he turned around, it was a different story.

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NoVA Buckeye's picture

For all we know, it was probably LERN KERFERN

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

Brutus's picture

If it weren't for the arms, I'm not sure I'd know that was a guy.  Got to say, he's got a nice ass. Feeling a little insecure now, both about my ass and masculinity.

Unky Buck's picture

He must workout.

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Hovenaut's picture

If I remember correctly, the Volunteer mascot is a dog....

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I am not very smart.

Toilrt Paper's picture

No food???? WHY? Live in the athletic dorm and you can eat LARGE amounts of food, 3 times per day and tons of snacks the rest of the day.
He said he had to either eat and pay his rent. BULLSHIT. If you live in an apartment your scholarship pays for the rent and your scholarship gives you plenty of money to eat on. If you use your rent and food money to buy alcohol or drugs.......well.....what he is REALLY saying is he needs more money for booze and drugs.

Denny's picture

Go on.

Taquitos.

HandsOfSweed's picture

Hey, Everybody! It's Toilrt Paper! Wipe. Flush. Wash Hands. Move on with your day.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Some can't handle the truth.

HandsOfSweed's picture

Some make wild assumptions and claims and then represent said assumptions and claims as "truth."

BuckGnome's picture

I liked that they showed a pic of TP and co. while the guy was saying that all this manufactured "scandal" garbage is complete BS.
 

gobucks96's picture

Wait. If Goodell suspended Pryor, what about Arian?  Just more BS hypocrisy.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

How many more times does this yarn have to be spun before there's some sort of reform?

The use of the term yarn was unintentionally apt by the staff.
College football players must be paid because they're in danger of starvation! Won't somebody think of the children?!
Yarn indeed.
Scholarship athletes living off campus receive reimbursement for room & board. That will vary from school to school depending on the local cost of living. To save money many players double up in apartments (ie 4 guys living in a two bedroom). So if each athlete is receiving $1K each month for room & board and four of them go in together on a $750 a month apartment, guess how much each has left over for for everything else?
Most athletes qualify for Pell Grants. That's up to $5,500 in cash each year. There is also an additional $500 clothing allowance that doesn't count against that 5.5k.
In cases of real emergency football programs have access to both the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund & Special Assistance Fund. If Arian Foster were truly in dire straits the University could cut a check to help him out...and no, it wouldn't be an NCAA violation.
Perhaps instead of grasping at stories to help grind the pay players ax we should instead look at the real issue here....how completely inept many football players are at managing a budget, even when they're making millions in the NFL.

NW Buckeye's picture

So sorry. Fat finger downvote.  Should not vote on my phone!  
Will up vote you on other posts to make up for it. 

NoVA Buckeye's picture

I bet the NCAA does nothing because 1 year of Lane Kiffin should be enough punishment for a has-been SEC power.

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

EnlistedBuckeye's picture

Dude your rational is how much money you bring a school. I'm a memeber of the USAF. I happen to work in contracting...do you know how much money I make the country every year? By his logic I should be getting paid millions. Guess what Arian I have rules, I have to live in what we call dorms(which i promise were smaller), and I get fed slop. I'm so tired of athletes crying wolf about everything.

BuckeyeChief's picture

He wasn't a Buckeye= College athletes deserve more!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Bucksfan's picture

Narrative:  It's fine when it happens in the SEC, but not when it happens at USC or Ohio State.
USC and Ohio State:  WTF?

yrro's picture

I was on essentially the same level of scholarship as a football player at OSU. It was enough to get by on easily if you were a nerd and didn't buy anything for entertainment but t-shirts and the occasional video game. Trendy clothes, booze, and parties would go through it pretty quickly. I also had time to work summers, instead of training like these guys do.
So... I'm not buying anyone saying these guys are starving. But it's not exactly cushy piles of money, either.
Just go to olympic amateur rules and be done with it - you get your scholarship, and a cut of any jersey with your number on it. It barely changes anything for most players, and it wouldn't even be that much out of the school's bottom line, but it's a heck of a lot fairer.

SPreston2001's picture

I dont really think the players should get paid by the NCAA or Univiersity but I definitely think they should be able to make money off their names!! The NCAA has some really stupid rules!!!

Buckeyejason's picture

These guys are all full of shit. They act like they're starving and on some third world country slave labor job or somethin..what happened to 3 free meals at the chow hall or cafeteria? THESE CATS ARE JUST GREEDY! plain and simple.
Sick of hearing about these dudes and the woah is me sob story. Why don't any of these players parents work to help give their sons some spending money!?!? 

BUCKEYES BABY!

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

This ^. A work buddy of mine wrestled at Iowa under Gable. Scholarship=everything.
As he relates, with the full ride, meals, housing, and monthly spending money, there was enough. Luxury? No. Guys still lived like college guys, taking advantage of cheap meal nights, happy hours, quarter beers, etc. But, then again, this is college. Enough with the pissing and moaning.

BuckeyeAZOH's picture

Maybe instead of giving the athletes a full ride, make it more like d3 athletes. Take away the full ride, make them earn academic scholarships, let them get an on campus job for minimum wage that let's them earn up to like $1400 (that's what it was when I was in college) on top of being football players and make them take out school loans. Maybe then they will understand after having to payback $100000 that that full ride is quite the sum of money they are being provided. 

Purple Raider

osuguy2008's picture

1) Regarding living conditions- I've regularly heard Krenzel and Carpenter on the radio mention how they shared an apartment with several guys to save money and be able to pocket a portion of their money for rent. Ideal? No, because who wants to share an apartment with several dudes? But guess what? Nearly every college kid has done it. No one is entitled to to live in a 2 bedroom/2 bath apartment or condo all by your lonesome or with at the most one roommate. 
 
2) This argument is always made pointing to coaches salaries. What's never mentioned is nearly every big time coach (Urban, Tress, Saban, Mack Brown, etc) started out working nearly 80 hrs a week doing unglamorous work with little pay and no recognition. I remember when Urban was hired he mentioned how he tried to grab as many coupons at a Chinese(?) restaurant to be able to save some money and get a cheaper meal (or heck, "splurge" to take his wife out). All these millionaire  coaches are indeed paid handsomely but at some point in there professional lives they were making next to nothing to be able to get the opportunity to begin to hone a craft (in this case coaching) and showcase themselves to whichever school they were a graduate assistant or assistant to. It's like anything else in life - you start out getting paid nearly nothing but you put your time in, work hard, purse knowledge in your craft, and with a little luck along the way you're able to strike it big. These coaches didn't start making the huge salaries until they were hired a good sized school which most of the time was when they were in their mid to late thirties or even early forties. So assuming they got out of college at age 21-22 that means they didn't make these millions everyone points out to up to 14-15 years. Whereas , if you're a star player you wait at the most 3 years. 
 
 

Jhesse17's picture

1) I'd say if you're making someone else billions of dollars and barely touching a cent the least you deserve is a nice apartment.
2) I really don't understand your point. Nobody said being a college coach is easy. Neither is being a college athlete. They should both be compensated fairly for the services they provide.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Would you kindly point out which player is making someone else billions of dollars?

Jhesse17's picture

Well, no single players is making that for their university, but overall players are making several billion dollars that they don't see. For example, Ohio State made 48,761,850 of profit in 2011-12 on football according to Forbes. If you divide it out, it adds up to $573,668.82 per player per year.

Knarcisi's picture

SEC ... Nothing to see here. 

Whosisbrew's picture

(Paraphrasing, I think): "There's no scandal, we create it. The way the NCAA Cartel's structure is set up, things are talked about as if they're illegal when they're not."
That was the line of the story for me. The coverage of Pryor & Company, AJ Green, Reggie Bush, etc., was always bewildering to me. It perpetuated the idea that they were all hoodlums when none of them did anything morally or criminally wrong. It's one of the most disgusting aspects of all of this.

Roger's picture

"I called my coach and I said, 'Coach, we don't have no food. We don't have no money. We're hungry. Either you give us some food, or I'm gonna go do something stupid.'"

Something stupid like...getting a part time job to compliment your stipend?

AltaBuck's picture

Can't run the risk of getting a job. You might get overpaid $3.07 and get suspended for 5 games.  

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

741's picture

Simple solution: The NFL, or some other cartel of billionaires, should create a 20-30 team "club" league that becomes a place for those high school (+3 years) aged aspiring NFL athlete types who "ain't come to play school" to further themselves professionally, and those who wish to earn college degrees can stay on the collegiate track and abide by the rules.
I for one would continue to follow Ohio State. I love the team and my university and the traditions and experience far more than the individuals.

Jeeves's picture

This. Big thumbs up and I wish it would happen. The NFL just has it too good to change a thing unless they are forced.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

You start paying football players you have to start paying basketball players. You do that then the other sports would have a legal right to sue to get paid as well. Baseball and softball for sure. Then it spreads to the non-major schools, then the FCS/Division I-AA, then Division II and III and probably even NAIA an the jucos. How many universities and colleges can afford to pay all their athletes? Maybe a handful? If the smaller colleges that barely eke by as it is have to start paying players I guarantee you will see schools start to axe sports altogether. Either that or take the radical step of cutting classes completely out of their curriculum to be able to afford paying their athletes. I don't see a school president deciding to suddenly cut a prized academic program just so some football players can get free tacos or buy a BMW.
Arian Foster is a great player, but he's always come across as a world-class flake to me in the same vein as Ricky Williams so its hard to tell if he's even telling the truth or exaggerating. My guess is he did get cash and Fulmer was good at covering it up. Maybe the reason he stopped being competitive is that he stopped paying his players?
NCAA either needs to be dissolved and replaced or get subpoena power that will actually allow them to enforce their rules. Violators are just thumbing their noses at them now. It's an even bigger joke than before.
 

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New Orleans's picture

Here's an idea:
Let every college athlete hire an agent to negotiate a contract. The school can pay whatever it deems appropriate. That eliminates all the debate about breaking any rules.
The athlete, of course, must be enrolled as a student and take classes, with grades sufficient to stay enrolled. And the athlete must pay the same costs as any other non-scholarship student, i.e. room, board, tuition, books, medical, etc.
Good luck, though, in trying to fill out the football and basketball schedules, because most schools will drop those programs. All the lesser sports such as track and baseball will also go away.
Simple as well as equitable.

Buckeyejason's picture

The funny thing is these guys are rockin $150 Jordan sneakers and expensive clothes. Who's paying for that? You can't eat but you can buy Jordan's and have 20 high end fitted ball caps in your closet? PRIORITIES fellas..LEARN THEM!

BUCKEYES BABY!