What a Difference Two Years Makes

September 5, 2013 at 8:47a    by Jason Priestas    
44 Comments
Your daily reminder that the media is vapid and shitty.

Two years after Sports Illustrated's "How Deep It Went" cover featuring Jim Tressel, Johnny Manziel graces the cover of Time next to "It's Time to Pay College Athletes."

Urge to stab: Rising.


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LouGroza's picture

If the OSU thing happened today, the same hyped-up type of Tressel cover would appear just as it did then. Nothing has changed, only the subjects.

Charlene's picture

The years make no difference, but big money does. There was no way the NCAA was going to discipline A&M or Johnny douche after his privileged family hired the Cam Newton lawyers.
[rest of post edited by 11W staff - no politics, please]

unknownmusketeer's picture

I feel particular empathy for Posey. He made more than the maximum ($15/hr) and was suspended for that. My brother was required as part of his degree to do an internship, which would typically pay $20-25/hr. He couldn't finish his degree until he was done with football because of this.

spqr2008's picture

I had always wondered about that.  It must be why you never see UC's student athletes doing engineering, because they have a required internship program too, that has to start in the 2nd year to stay in an engineering major.

kb1's picture

This is disgusting.....hypocrisy at its best.

bcarp87's picture

Let's keep in mind these are different magazines. Agree about the overall national perception though. It is ridiculous.

Haybucks's picture

Funny huh, the Key to the City used to be a Jail Cell key.

You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was. - Irish proverb

 

BuddhaBuck's picture

Projectile vomiting.
(How much) Do you think Johnny got paid for that cover?

Don't text while driving.

bedheadjc's picture

Nothing.
He did, however, get paid $7500 to sign 1000 copies of it.

BuddhaBuck's picture

Touche.

Don't text while driving.

BuckeyeMark's picture

It is fair to note that an email that went public forced Tress to admit he lied and covered up the (pitifully minor) infractions.  That gave the NCAA the paper trail they needed to punish a conspiracy.  And that gave the media the license to ask "who else knew what and when?"  That's what "How Deep did it Go?" is about.
Manziel is a Grade A jerk and as one of my Aggie friends says "Will either end up in jail or holding the NC trophy ... there's no middle ground with him."  But I don't think there's any evidence that his coach is covering up for him.
That said, the public seems to be wearying of these controversies and the Time mag cover reflects changing ideas.

BuckGnome's picture

Great points all around.  I would be much more pissed if George Dohrmann had authored the new Time article.
More than anything, the the two covers illustrate how public attitudes toward the NCAA's rules and the seemingly random, arbitrary enforcement of such, have shifted.   Additionally, it reflects an acknowledgement of the multibillion $ business major college sports has become.  
With all the conference realignment in pursuit of gigantic television contracts, the NCAA, and its member institutions, have invited the intense scrutiny of their current amateurism policies that they are now receiving.  As this point, they are almost indefensible.

Jason Priestas's picture

Solid points. The kicker for me is the subhead: "... THE FULL EXTENT TO WHICH JIM TRESSEL LOST CONTROL OF HIS BUCKEYES."

alust2013's picture

I've got little to no beef with players making money on their own, and I especially think that limit of $15/hr is arbitrary and ridiculous. However, I really don't think players should get paid more than their expenses from the school (their full school/living expenses, that is). The stories about players being hungry or cold and actually needing something are awful, and the fact that helping them out could be a violation is bull. I'm all for helping guys if they need some help, but I don't want this to turn into the NFL and guys are getting recruited with money. I realize tOSU would still be boss because our athletic department actually turns a profit, but where would the money come from at schools whose athletic departments don't make money? The rest of the students' pockets? No thanks. School is already more expensive than it needs to be as is, there is no need to make it more so, especially for a football team.

...and _ichigan still sucks.

3cent's picture

I agree, schools should not pay the athlete.the scholarship is enough, and they couldn't afford to pay all athletes. But the athletes should be able to make money on their own if people are willing to pay. I am with jay bilas. Now the people who do not like this is because they say that it will open a Pandora's box and boosters will pay the players. I think it could be regulated where there would be no shady deals.

M Man's picture

Kudos to 11W for pointing this out.  I don't agree in any way with paying college athletes; but oh yeah this juxtaposition of cover stories is monumental.

Mirror Lake Jump's picture

The Will Hill one you posted on twitter was hilarious

biggy84's picture

Thanks for telling me about that site, Ramzy! My friends are already wishing i never learned of it!

3cent's picture

One media figure that has really been hypocritical on this thing is Kirk Herbstreit. He has nothing but praise when it comes Manziel and at times seems to defend him or has this attitude like it was no big deal on what Manziel did. The exact opposite on the way he treated Pryor. 

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Must......take.....a.....deep....breath.....and remind myself:
 

cronimi's picture

Serenity now ... insanity later. Just ask Lloyd Braun.

DJ Byrnes's picture

It's been time to pay college athletes since TV contracts ballooned to billions of dollars.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

1967Buck's picture

  Better yet DJ, maybe its time to start treating all these kids the same. No more free anything,everyone pays.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

No, it's time for the NFL to pony up the cash for a farm system & get the kids who have no business in college out of there.

pjtobin's picture

F em all watch em fall screaming what about a gun fight I'm exercising all demons. 
I have no clue as to why that came to me to write. I think it's a tupac rap? Those are my feelings on the matter. Don't ask me why? Lol

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Oyster's picture

Considering your icon, I don't think anyone would question anything you post ; )

40 Degrees North's picture

Everyone knows about the sports media and their biases, but lets put the cards on the table here folks.
Now I am going to get in trouble for saying this, but it needs to be said here. Just like the  sports media, the news media has their biases too. You got Time Magazine, an alleged news outfit who doesn't know the difference between SEC and SEX, putting this story as the cover story. 
What topics do Time Magazine normally cover? What biases do they have in that coverage? Ask yourself. Do you think they might be using this story because the narratives and biases they push, just like ESECPN and the SEC, all of a sudden look like crap?
Now, it is interesting that Sports Illustrated, a second rate publication that people read 20 years ago, is owned by Time Inc. Time Inc. is a subsidiary of Time Warner, the companies that own Time Magazine. Why the change in opinions and coverage here Time Warner? 
Now, I love websites like this one. There are other websites out there on a variety of topics that I love. Eleven Warriors does quality work. Yet, if God forbid an Eleven Warriors writer was wrong, they would be raked over the coals by the media. Now, if some hack like Stewart Mandel at SI or Joe Klein at Time are wrong, they are never called out on it. 
Props to Eleven Warriors for their coverage here.
 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

So in 2013, it's time to pay college athletes, but it wasn't time in 2010?  What changed?  Do I have to say it *COUGHTHE SCHOOL AND PLAYERS INVOLVED THEN AND NOWCOUGH COUGH*

Class of 2010.

OurHonorDefend09's picture

Don't give up... Don't ever give up.

TheBadOwl's picture

Can we PLEASE admit that race has something to do with this? 
Let's not kid ourselves, Posey got overpaid by $3.07, got 5 additional games, and nobody in the media was excusing his actions. Pryor was vilified, and still is seen as a thug by many. He was selling his memorabilia to help out his mother. 
Johnny Manziel parties it up every weekend, sits courtside at NBA games, hangs out with Drake, and sells his autograph for new rims. The media portrays him as the victim of an unfair system. Does anybody think that, if a black kid had done that, the media would show absolutely no sympathy? The "Oh, he's just a college kid" thing would have gone out the window.
This post isn't about Tressel, or the fact that Johnny just didn't get caught, it's about the media's portrayal, and how, when this became an issue for a suburban white kid, all of the sudden, the rules are a travesty. 
There was no sympathy for Reggie Bush, or A.J. Green, or Dez Bryant, or Terrelle Pryor, or Posey, or Herron, or Adams, or any of those guys.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

CincyOSU's picture

I really get tired of hearing how Pryor sold his memorabilia to "help" his mother. Have you forgotten that his mother is the one who bought him the 350z he was driving around during the Tatgate scandal? If she was so hard up for money, how did she afford to buy him a car? If you would like proof, here is an excerpt from the USA Today article.

The purchase agreement shows the vehicle cost $18,404.50, But after a trade-in, the remaining balance was $11,435 with monthly payments of $298.35. James said Pryor's mother can afford the payments.

"She's moved into a neighborhood in a one-bedroom apartment (in Columbus)," James said. "It's in not the most desirable neighborhood in order to move here and help out her son. She works at a hospital as a lab technician, she's making decent money, hourly wages, I'm not going to give you the exact number, but it's a good pay. She's working between 80 and 100 hours every two weeks and has been for a considerable amount of time. The hospital is not affiliated with Ohio State University.

 

CincyOSU's picture

And no, this issue has nothing to do with race. Unfortunately, it took people like Pryor and Posey and Bush to make people finally realize how archaic the NCAA rules were. Manziel just got lucky....right place right time.

hodge's picture

I don't know about that.  I think the fact that Manziel is white has made it a little easier for people to disassociate the "thug" stereotype from his antics--which is an unfortunate heuristic that inevitably gets brought up whenever a black player breaks an NCAA rule.  I don't think this is an issue solely (or even mostly) borne of race, but I think it's at least a factor--as it tends to be in most anything.

CincyOSU's picture

Fair enough. I just don't think it's ALL about race.

40 Degrees North's picture

I know the race issue comes up here. There is definitely a correlation here dating back to the Eric Dickerson Trans A&M-SMU days. However, I think there is a bigger issue at play than race: class level.
All off-season, when Johnny Manziel was front row at games or partying like a rock star, you heard the same excuse. He is rich. His family is rich. He has money. He can do that. 
Now, when Eric Dickerson is getting Trans A&M's, Reggie Bush's family getting a house, Scam Newton's Reverend Daddy is getting $200,000, or Terrelle Pryor is getting a tattoo and a car, you hear the same thing. They don't have the money for that. How are they getting that? They must be getting paid.

Doc's picture

Nailed it!  It's a class thing more than a race thing.  Manziel being white and the Buckeye 5 being black doesn't help matters.  I am still confused on how Manziel gets back stage and in the locker rooms for all of these events.  Having a rich daddy isn't the thing.  He had to be getting these extra benefits because of who he is as a Heisman trophy winning college football player.  Isn't that some sort of ncaa violation?  The entire thing stinks to high Heaven.

"Say my name."

M Man's picture

Well didn't SI try like hell to incriminate Storm Klein?  Isn't there a good case to be made that the two people who were treated the most unfairly by SI, were Storm Klein, along with Tressel?

buckeyedude's picture

Good point MMan. Tressel has to be so pissed off looking at all this "support" for pay 4 players now that Ohio State isn't involved. (I realize he got caught lying)
I wonder if Tressel could do it all over again he wishes he would have just turned all the Tat 5 over to the NCAA, in hindsight?

 

 

acBuckeye's picture

I completely agree. I was going to say the same thing until I read that you already said it, 40. Where these kids come from is a much bigger factor in all of this than race. It's a huge factor on if they are more likely to cheat, and also a factor on how they're treated if they get caught. I don't think race matters as much as socioeconomic status does when it comes to this topic.

acBuckeye's picture

I know it was from a different era, but Kentucky had to suffer major NCAA penalties in basketball when they fielded all-white rosters.
Teddy Dupay got railed by the media for cheating at Florida.
Just a couple things to think about.
 

buckskin's picture

Manziel is the perfect face for the argument to pay college athletes, especially in stark contrast with the organization preventing this, the NCAA.  He burst onto the scene as a relatively unknown RS freshman, seemingly overachieving in every game to win the Heisman as a true underdog; a very easy story to cheer for.  The NCAA, on the other hand, is perceived as a faceless (sorry Mark), cold, greedy organization that just wants to keep players down with stupid, old fashioned rules.  Their recent history of wildly inconsistent judgments has only hurt their perception.  
I also think that the money has increased tremendously in CFB in two years, so you now have the old rich (school) vs. poor (player) argument that wasn't as prevalent two years ago.  In 2010, I don't remember hearing about how all these schools were making so much money off these players backs.