Denard Robinson Ranks Michigan's Rivals

September 5, 2013 at 8:45a    by DJ Byrnes    
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GET DUMPED THEN, DENARD.

Denard Robinson, the former Michigan running back and Michigan's All-Time Interception-Thrower, was recently asked to rank Michigan's rivals:

Of course we’ve got to say Ohio's the biggest one. (Then) Notre Dame and (No. 3) Michigan State, our little brothers.

It's little surprise Denard Robinson holds a grudge against Ohio State, being that he's 1-3 all time vs. the Buckeyes and his single win came against an OSU team that finished with seven losses. It's not like he could rank Ohio State anywhere else.

What is surprising is he ranks Michigan State below Notre Dame, a ranking I'm sure most Michigan fans would disagree with. But Denard did go 1-3 against Michigan State with five interceptions to his two touchdowns, so perhaps this is just his way of attempting to even the score posthumously. 


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BucksfanXC's picture

I would actually think a lot of Michigan fans feel this way. MSU has recently (due to Rich Rod) made the in-state game competitive, but ND has always been the traditional rivalry. ND was on the schedule as a historical thing, were as MSU is on the schedule because they are a conference foe and a rivalry is natural, where as ND was forged.
OSU as #1 goes without question.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Unky Buck's picture

This isn't overly surprising since it came out the week of the ND game. I wonder if it would be a little different had Kelly not downplayed the rivalry (Would this question even be asked? We know how the media is...) or if it was the week going into the MSU game (is it a "they're front and center so right now it's more important kind of thing?).
What say you, our UM brethren here on 11W?

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hail2victors9's picture

I'm disappointed that this is even a story.  There is no need to ask what is already known.
Also, a players individual record against a rival doesn't change the fact that it's a rivalry; the more your rival beats you, the more you hate them.
And, yes, Sparty will forever be Michigan's little brother no matter how many 4-game winning streaks they put together.  It's far beyond W/L to earn the little bro status.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

Doc's picture

Let's not forget the AACC arrogance factor.
 
In all seriousness, Denard referring to Sparty as "little brother" when he himself went 1-3 against them smacks of stupidity.  He was in full on troll mode referring to us as "Ohio" (ouch that hurts:/) and MSU as little.  Give it a rest "Velcro" and move on.

"Say my name."

AndyVance's picture

I'm surprised, Hail, that the Golden Domers are considered a bigger rival than the Spartans... I'd love to hear you elaborate as to why, please.

hail2victors9's picture

I'm sure a lot depends on where you live and age, etc.  To me, it's the number of seasons that were ruined/defined by this game.  I know a lot of you feel Michigan fans are arrogant, but it's another level with ND fans.  The series is much closer than Michigan/MSU and ND and Michigan are atop the all-time leader board in wins and winning percentage.  Certain Irish names just make me cringe, none more than "Rocket" and Lou Holtz.  They stole Michigan's stadium design, scaled it down and won't admit that it's a ripoff of the Big House.  Oh, and their fight song...objectively it's probably one of the best, but I can't be objective.  It's dreadfully annoying.  Not to mention the whole NBC exclusivity and there God-awful announcers.  Just the overall entitlement that spews from its being.  Oh, and the leprechaun guys.  Umm, no.
Don't get me wrong, Michigan fans hate Sparty, too, especially as of late.  It's just different because historically they haven't had the same type of impact on Michigan's success.  Also, I don't live in Michigan.  

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

AndyVance's picture

I despise Notre Dame too, for all of the non-Michigan-specific reasons you cited. Thanks for the insight into how "The Enemy" thinks :)

81Alum's picture

I too find Notre Dame to be the most delusional, arrogant, and entitled fan base in the country.
Of course, as a Buckeye, I find TSUN fans delusional (September Heismans etc.) but I don't find them as arrogant as ND fans. You can actually have a reasonable and respectful conversation with a TTUN fan, something that's impossible with ND homers.
As much as it pains me to say this, I hate ND and will be hoping that TTUN wins this Saturdays game. Think of the joy of watching the colors of ol Beet face.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

Other than the stadium comment, this sounds like little brother complex.
Just playing. Good insight.

WB

chitown buckeye's picture

@Hail, love the rant! You are usually so even-keeled when posting.
As far as your ND thoughts are concerned:

 

"I'm having a heart attack!"

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Great insight.  Barry Alvarez would disagree with you...but who gives a damn what he thinks?

Class of 2010.

TNbuckeye91's picture

good job hail, im glad you made it out of that dreadful place.

Oyster's picture

I realize that there is a desire to play this game up as a rivalry, but 40 meetings is not quite a rivalry in my book.  There has been 105 meetings with MSU as a comparison.  Also, ND has not been exactly tearing up the record books like they did 50+ years ago either.  Harvard and Yale were dominant teams once also.  Today?  Not very relevant.  If ND actually played in a conference, they would be even less talked about than they are today.  Playing the service academies every year is not exactly a challenging schedule.  

Brutus' Left Nut's picture

Let me just start of by saying that I hate Notre Dame.  If I had my choice Notre Dame wouldn't win Saturday and neither would UM.  Some type of virus would go through the stadium causing all of the players and fans to have violent diarrhea such that they would shit themselves so badly that the game would be declared a draw, the stadium would be evacuated and the day would be forever known as the shit bowl.  Note: I don't want anyone to get hurt physically, just mentally traumatized from the stench of 100,000+ arrogant a-holes crapping themselves (and since they are all so full of it...there would be a lot).  
Now that that is out of the way...this whole ND isn't in a conference so doesn't play a tough schedule is complete garbage.  Really?  They actually cherry pick some of the toughest teams from major conferences and play them every year.  The best team on our schedule is probably UM or NW?  They play Michigan (okay matched our toughest game already), Michigan St, Purdue, Oklahoma, ASU, USC, Pitt, BYU and Stanford.  While Pitt, ASU, Purdue and BYU may be in down years, they aren't exactly cupcakes like Buffalo and are often ranked in the top 25.
With that schedule, I'm pretty sure Kelly is going to regret eating that Blueberry gum against Wonka's protests.  I wish they would join the BIG for no reason other than my favorite game was when AJ Hawk kept beating the crap out of Brady Quinn and the camera would cut to Quinn's sister and be like "yup he is tearing her up later too" haha.

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Absolutely. ND's schedule is, frankly, brutal. Oklahoma? USC? Stanford? Knock Domers all you want, but they have the toughest (and most enjoyable) schedule, year in and year out, in the country. That said, I will root against them in all three of those games.

M Man's picture

Wouldn't you boys be pissed beyond words, if Denard had ranked OSU anywhere other than the Number One rival?
Anyway, yeah; this is not a big deal to Michigan.  Yes, Ohio State is the biggest rivalry.  Duh.  And yes, you have no idea how much we hate Notre Dame.  You really don't.  Well maybe you do.  We hate ND the way that a lot of Ohioans hate Michigan.  Except that our hatred of Notre Dame is nastier.  And Little Brother?  Little Brother is little brother.  They hate us like everybody hates us, only more. 

Haybucks's picture

When did Robinson start his spoon feeding gesture?  If b4 11/26/11, then that team should be #1 on his hit parade. It's no big deal what NoShoestring thinks.  I disagree with your assessment that Michgan fans have a nastier hatred for ND.  I listen to Bill Simonson (The Huge Show) as well as Doctor & Bentley out of Grand Rapids.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

M Man's picture

Go to Ann Arbor this Saturday night.  Or, to better judge, go to Ann Arbor for a Notre Dame game, an MSU game, and an OSU game.
Not sure why you posed the "eating gesture" question to me; as a lot of the 11W readers know, I condemned it from the beginning.  I hope it is gone forever from Michigan football.  I think it is; we scored enough points last week to examine every conceivable TD-celebration gesture, and I saw none of it.
I think it began for all practical (noticeable) purposes in the 2011 OSU-Michigan game in Ann Arbor.  It may have been lurking before that; possibly in the ugly 2011 Michigan-MSU game.  (The Gholston Assault and Battery game.)  I'm not sure if Denard invented it.  (I don't think so, though he clearly "popularized" it.  Noting that it isn't terribly "popular.")  It may have been one of his Pahokee/cane country/glades buddies who came up with it.  They have an online charity for kids in that part of Florida now, called "Eating."  The charity is totally legit and is the one saving grace from Denard's "eating" celebration.

hail2victors9's picture

Unfortunately, it is not dead.  Norfleet was doing it awaiting a punt against Central. 
I don't know the origin of it, but I do remember seeing some NFL players doing it last year. 

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

Haybucks's picture

The "eating gesture" question was posed to you because it has significance to Robinson and the timing of the gesture is important.  The article was about Robison's rival ratings and this gesture means something and it plays a significant role in his desire to win.  It has nothing to do with you, the ratings have nothing to do with you and I'm sorry for you if your guy is embarrassing you. Being an M-man, you should have insider information which clarifies Robinson's intentions regarding his eating habits. I hope I made my intention to involve you in this matter clearer to you. Thanks for joining in on a topic of which we appreciate your insight.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

Buck U's picture

See, this surprises me.  When I lived in that state up north, the Michigan State game was the big one.  Granted, this was right before Tress took them to the woodshed so I can understand how things change.  The Michigan State game was the one that gave people bragging rights at the water cooler.  There always seemed to be a lot more smack talking and emphasis on the Michigan State game than any other game. 
I wouldn't call Notre Dame a rival.  I would say there was a lot of hatred there because the Domers always seem to have scUM's #.  But a rival??? NO.   

M Man's picture

When I lived in that state up north, the Michigan State game was the big one...  The Michigan State game was the one that gave people bragging rights at the water cooler.  There always seemed to be a lot more smack talking and emphasis on the Michigan State game than any other game.

I can understand this point of view.  Living in Michigan, everybody in the state is asked to choose sides in October.  So there is lots and lots of smack-talk all over.  From Lake Huron to Lake Michigan.
But in Ann Arbor, and within the University of Michigan in particular, Notre Dame elicits an unusual level of hate.

DJ Byrnes's picture

I concur, M Man. Notre Dame and its fanbase are the the worst things in college football.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

GoBucksOSU's picture

I always thought that for the last few years at least, that honor went to Penn State.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

FACTS!! EVIDENTS!! DUE PROCESS!!
Nit fans are truly vile.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They have their moments where you can say that. But I would argue that most M*chigan fans are just as delusional, and arrogant as Notre Dame fans.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Fans of the TSUN aren't nearly as bad about living in an echo chamber.
Post something contrary on MGOB and you'll get attacked & shouted down by most but there will at least be some discussion. Do the same thing on Irish Envy and your post will be deleted and your account banned while the two people who actually read it cover their ears & shout "RETURNTOGLORYRETURNTOGLORY" over and over.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Yeah, but like Notre Dame fans, they keep screaming "We're back!" every year. On Mgo a lot were saying that they hoped that thing about Urban from Rolling Stone was true.

I'm just glad Notre Dame isn't in the BigTen. Having two M*chigan programs would be a nightmare.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

Oh Denard what a Troll you are.  Go eat some imaginary wheaties!

Michigan Sucks!

TMac's picture

How would you rank our rivals? tTUN is obviously 1st but then ??
A couple years ago it was probably Penn State second, but It's probably Wiisky now..... is there anyone else to even consider as a "rival"??

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

I guess maybe Illinois or Wisky!

Michigan Sucks!

AndyVance's picture

We have only one Rival (capital R). We may have other rivalries, but none rises anywhere to the level of The Game.
As for the rest, I think it depends on the era... Obviously someone thought OSU/Illinois was a rivalry once, hence the Illibuck Trophy; Wisconsin was a pretty good series for a while, and yes, Penn State has drummed up a pretty good back and forth with The Good Guys since their inclusion in the B1G.
But none of them qualify as true Rivals in my book. Nowhere near the history or the tradition.

Haybucks's picture

My picks in order are ttun, wiscy, penn st, usc, sec, and cornbraska. I wish the huskers were higher, but they aren't what I wanted them to be.  Maybe with the East-West alignment Sparty will show up. 

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

Bleeding-Scarlet-Grey's picture

Rivalry teams that we do not come across very often but gets both side's blood boiling i would consider 3 teams, Florida, Miami, Texas

Without risks comes no rewards

yrro's picture

Honestly, for what inspires the most hatred and media attention you'd think it was the entire SEC. Two national championship losses and we are poster child for the antithesis of SEC dominance.

Brutus' Left Nut's picture

Even though we've only played them twice in the last few years, I think it's Florida now.
1) They embarrassed us in the National Championship and started the SEC run.
2) They followed that up by beating us in the Basketball National Championship.
3) We stole their coach, sending them back down to the pits of the swamp where they belong.
4) They beat us in a meaningless hyped up Gator bowl (ugly game)
5) Lots of trash talk both ways
6) We turn them in for recruiting violations
7) What's next?

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

When did TTUN all of a sudden start having a rivalry with the Bobcats?  Needless to say, it escalated pretty quickly.

Class of 2010.

pjtobin's picture

Renob is still trying to talk smack? He is going to get welcomed to the nfl very soon. And it may be a career ending welcome. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

mh277907's picture

That's cute, Denard. On another note, I LOVED those pro combats. By far my favorite.

buckeyebobcat

BucksfanXC's picture

I liked the couple pro combats we used. I hate that the pics from The Game the last few years feature them. I want to see Silver Bullets v Winged Helmets in those pictures.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Jack Fu's picture

^ So much this. A once-a-year novelty uniform is fine. Not in The Game.

Bleeding-Scarlet-Grey's picture

We need a black version of the pro combats those would be sick!
 

Without risks comes no rewards

doofenshmirtz's picture

You know, if i were MSU, and I was called 'little brother', I would start calling Meatchicken 'big sister'.

M Man's picture

If you were MSU, you'd know very well who big brother is.
 

doofenshmirtz's picture

But, the only designation I've heard/read is that MSU is the 'little brother'.  I've never heard/read UM referred to as 'big brother'.  I always assumed that if MSU was 'little brother', then that meant UM was 'big sister'.  Seemed logical to me at the time given those god-awful, girly colors.

Doc's picture

Ha ha! Big sister.  I like it.  This big sister is ugly and mean, but doesn't put up much of a fight.

"Say my name."

gobucks96's picture

Sorry but going 1-3 versus a rival gives no room to talk. Calling MSU 'lil brother' is plain and simple sour grapes, IHMO for Denard.

741's picture

Huh. I had no idea the Bobcats played Michigan often enough for them to be considered rivals...

Mirror Lake Jump's picture

It's really hard to like Denard Robinson

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

He might be the most beloved quarter sack to post a 2-6 record against his team's conference rivals, little brother and daddy. 
Then again, they all lauded Hart

WB

MN Buckeye's picture

I think I do not hate ND as much because we do not play them very often. If we played them as UM has for so long, I think I would hate them much, much more.
That said, I agree with the several posters above that ND is THE most arrogant fan base. My daughter got her M.S. degree from ND during the Charlie Weis era. I was on campus the day Boston College stomped them, and there was sorrow flowing in the small lanes of south bend.
As for UM and MSU, I can sit back and enjoy the carping.