Nick Saban is Like Hitler, Says Alabama Fan Affectionately

July 19, 2013 at 9:38a    by Jason Priestas    
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Historical scholar; Tide fan

Thursday was Alabama day at SEC media days, which means hundreds thousands (?) of Crimson Tide football fans showed up at the Hyatt Regency in the Birmingham suburb of Hoover to show their support for Nick Saban, A.J. McCarron and other dignitaries from college football's reigning juggernaut.

One fan paid homage with a $300 national championship ring hat. Others preferred to express their appreciation with analogies. Like Lee from Decatur:

"He's a winner, he just does what he wants to do," says Lee Allen, an Alabama fan from Decatur. "He's kind of like Hitler. He's a dictator. He brought us back to the top and I figure we're going to be here for a while. Money well spent."

Wait, what? Hitler? You mean that as a compliment? "Yeah," Allen says in between discreetly spitting tobacco juice into a water bottle in the lobby.

Allen, a college student, arrived in Hoover on Sunday with his RV, even though SEC Media Days didn't begin until Tuesday. "I had nothing else planned this week," he says.

#ROLLTIDE


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BuckeyeSki's picture

Hail Tide?
"Bama beats UAB 58-0 in a Blitzkrieg!"

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BME_Buckeye's picture

   

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

mh277907's picture

I am so glad the North won...

buckeyebobcat

Menexenus's picture

I'm so glad the B1G is a Union conference!

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Jhesse17's picture

Heat of the moment bad post

Knarcisi's picture

I live in the south.  Many down here are still fighting the war. 

jeremytwoface's picture

Can we get some Photoshop action up in here please?

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

acBuckeye's picture

Some people shouldn't ever have the ability to speak..........

BuckeyeChief's picture

Wow. Amazed that anyone can make such an ignorant comparison and use it as a compliment. What f'in part of smart does he think this is?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Kaceybrown's picture

He looks like soup sandwich 

David Sokol's picture

What do you expect? I know this is one fan, but what % of the fanbase would agree with this guy?
If he knew how to read, he'd see that Hitler had to kill himself as allied forces advanced to his eventual defeat.
Foreshadowing the future for 'Bama?
Allies (or the cyanide capsule Hitler used to cowardly commit suicide) = Ohio State?

BED's picture

#hivemind

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jedkat's picture

Formics?

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

BED's picture

I'd compare Urban to Dwight Eisenhower, but Alabama fans probably don't understand history.  Or irony.

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The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

stittracer99's picture

I've spent the past 10 minutes or so debating which do-gooder Urban would be in this situation. Ike is a good choice, but was also thinking maybe FDR, Churchill, Patton, McArthur, etc. Patton certainly had Hitler's forces by the nuts so I'm tending to lean towards him, but Coombs also fits the Patton role with his motivational tactics. Also, Muschamp = Hirohito and it's only a matter of time until he gets a bomb dropped on his sorry a$$!

gwalther's picture

Meyer's Patton v Saban's Rommel
"You magnificent bastard, I read your book!"

Class of 2008

Boom777's picture

No Muschamp is Yamamoto, I hope we get him and the gators while they are  flying high!

Wherever you are, there you be!

Unky Buck's picture

You look at this guy in the photo, read what he said, and realize that he is the stereotypical person from the South. I'm not taking a shot at the South as there are plenty of brilliant, educated people, but he is clearly not helping the case...

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Does this mean when the Alabama powerhouse starts to crumble that Saban is going to blow his brains out and make his wife ingest cyanide?  

ArTbkward's picture

It's almost astounding that someone can be that ignorant.
 

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

FROMTHE18's picture

To be fair, half of the history books down there still refer to the Civil War as the 'War of Northern Aggression'...

buckskin's picture

True, I have family in Atlanta and my cousins were taught in school that the North was wrong.

Unky Buck's picture

After reading his comments and some of the subsequent ones here about "Northern Aggression", I decided to do some quick Google searching. Most of it had to do with the NRA, so I didn't bother with that much, but this girl had a blog post where she mentions this:

and to hear a quick history about The War of Northern Aggression which was not about slavery but about the greedy North trying to tax the South to death. Also, Abraham Lincoln beat his wife.

Clearly there is a disconnect between reality and belief. There may be a small amount of truth to the tax, but the driving issue behind it all was the secession of the Southern states due to the election of Lincoln and the drive to eliminate slavery. To think it had nothing to do with it shows complete ignorance. It's really sad to see that.

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William's picture

Drive to eliminate slavery? That's a joke right? Abolitionism was hardly rampant throughout all Northern states at that point in time. And those high and mighty industrialists that essentially forced what amounted to wage slavery on immigrants hopping off the boat in Ellis Island was just so morally just. 
 
The South seceded because 1) they were morons, 2) they felt that the federal government was somehow violating the 10th amendment with its policies at that time and that 3) the protectionist policies implemented by the federal government at that time hurt the South's ability to export its cash crops (this is a fact, but it's not a viable reason for secession). Also any person that believes the Civil War was a war of Northern Aggression is in fact, a moron. 

If anyone actually thinks that the Union was some great arbiter of justice looking to free all slaves from the shackles of slavery, you might want to go back and look at how the Emancipation Proclamation still allowed for slavery to be legal in the Border states, or how Abraham Lincoln was probably a racist. 

Unky Buck's picture

I should've clarified. It was the perceived notion that eliminating slavery was the sole intention of Abraham Lincoln and his run at the presidency. As seen from the election, he didn't carry any of the Southern states. He had a stigma to him and most of that came from his association with his party.
And while I understand the reasoning behind your statement and quick-gunned response, please don't put words in my mouth. Not once did I say the North were saints to be held in the highest regard. There were plenty of slave owners in the Northern states who didn't want to lose them either. Even during the war and after the Emancipation Proclamation, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Maryland continued having slaves and were allowed to since they were not "rebellious states". All I was trying to do was simply point out how some Southerners look at the War Between the States. It may be a completely dumbed down analogy, but Lincoln is seen as the devil to some, hence the jab at him that he beat his wife when something like that had nothing to do with anything being mentioned in the lady's post.

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hodge's picture

..."the protectionist policies implemented by the federal government at that time hurt the South's ability to export its cash crops (this is a fact, but it's not a viable reason for secession)."

Bingo.  So rarely does anyone mention this when discussing Southern Secession.  The protection of Northern industry was, in fact, crippling Southern agricultural exports.  Also, the Emancipation Proclamation was literally established solely to prevent the UK from entering the war on the Confederate side (as it weakened America).  Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist--not by a long shot--rather, he cared about preserving the union at all costs.

NC_Buckeye's picture

William, I'm going to get all history geek on you. Lincoln did not have the power to emancipate slaves in states that did not secede. Because of you know... the Constitution. Those states were still a part of the union and had all the state's rights protections that are setup in the Constitution.
Lincoln did champion the 13th Amendment which finally ended slavery in all states of the union. So he used the tools that were legally available to accomplish that end.
And from my perspective (and a lot of historians BTW), the south seceded because Lincoln and his Republican party were swept into office on a wave of abolitionism. See Lincoln's Peoria Speech for an example of his campaigning for the presidency.
IMO, denigrating Lincoln (probably the finest and best POTUS in our history) is disgusting. You're better than that William.

William's picture

Your argument doesn't making any sense. How did he have the power to declare slavery unconstitutional in the South, but not the Border States? He didn't have the power to do either...
Lincoln had previously made agreements to ship off all freed slaves to Africa, or to plantations in the Caribbean/Central America/South America.
In a speech in 1858, Lincoln literally proclaimed that he found Whites to be superior to Blacks. 
During the Civil War Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus. This was bad....
So with all of these FACTS, I don't see how one could list Lincoln in their Top 5, or especially view him as the best president in U.S. history. I mean Hell, it took him 3 years to find a commanding general worth a damn. Lincoln has been the recipient of some wonderful propaganda over the decades that has elevated him to some ridiculous status as a president where his tenure was wonderful and his acts beyond reproach, which is just silly. 

captain obvious's picture

your english doesnt making any sense

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

William's picture

Sorry, I was typing on an iPhone late at night and didn't notice the typo. However, if that's all you have to say about my argument, you can go back to your cave, or your mother's basement. 

buckskin's picture

I can't believe the ignorance of some people, even those in SEC land.  

Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Hitler was known to quietly cut underperforming soldiers in the SS in favor of higher-potential recruits. This often took place right before battle season, which would send them scrambling - most often to suburban Munich where they would finish out their military careers as mall cops.

So yeah, he has a point.

mh277907's picture

I wish we could upvote the staff

buckeyebobcat

cinserious's picture

So does that mean rampant over signing in SEC land will eventually result in a disproportionate number of mall cops in southern states?

Gone ham, be back soon...

Earle's picture

A better argument for government-mandated sterilization I cannot make.  Not that I expect we have much to worry about with this guy.

Italics are for emphasis.

Catch 5's picture

:SIGH:

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

Earle's picture

Napoleon may have been a better choice.  Of course, things didn't end well for either, so chalk up another one for Southern  SEC Fan Ignorance.

Italics are for emphasis.

Hovenaut's picture

College student Lee Allen?

You gotta be flunkin' kidding me.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Unky Buck's picture

I actually kind of laughed at that. Scratched my head while laughing, but laughed nonetheless.

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Hovenaut's picture

Scratched my head while writing it.

This kid makes the guy who poisoned Auburn's trees almost normal.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Denny's picture

"You know who else liked a powerful ground game?"

Taquitos.

DJ Byrnes's picture

This is so good.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

OSUStu's picture

Geez, no man, you are doing Godwin's Law all wrong.

Godwin's law -  It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches."  In other words, Godwin said that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

jthiel09's picture

If Nick Saban is Hitler does that make Les Miles Mussolini or Stalin?

JT

rdubs's picture

Not sure, but it definitely makes the ND defense France...

jthiel09's picture

That made my day, bravo.

JT

BierStube's picture

That sir is an insult to France!
Absolutely brilliant would up vote it if I could!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

rdubs's picture

Appreciated, I thought about going with just Manti Teo, but let's face it he wasn't the only one getting steamrolled.

BierStube's picture

Yeah Teo proved that whole "unstoppable force meets an immovable object" thing to be the complete BS it is. Let's face it, if Teo was on the cover of NCAA 14 there would not be a game disk on the inside (even though he personally promised there would be one ..)

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

Idaho Helga's picture

  Funniest thing I've read here today and mind you, there is stiff competition.
Urban isn't Patton,  Patton was flamboyant and despite the movie,  Patton actually had a high squeeky voice that embarrassed him.  Urb's more of an Omar Bradley.  Hard working, straightforward, successful leader.  Don't compare him to Ike.  Ike had that "female driver" thing going on the whole time.  And Ike gave in regularly to appease our allies and his boss, FDR.  An excellent football coach would make a terrible politician as politics is the art of persuasion, compromise and pretending you like everyone.

Urban Nation Army's picture

It's funny how it says "college student" not "Alabama student"

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Well nothing leads us to believe that he a student at the University of Alabama thus leading to the more general term "college student". 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

in between discreetly spitting tobacco juice into a water bottle in the lobby.

A walking(judging by his size waddling would be a better word) stereotype.
The media owes Gee an apology.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Denny's picture

I'm no scholar of military history, but wouldn't Hitler's tactics be more akin to a no-huddle, and Saban be more of a WWI kind of guy?

Taquitos.

OSUStu's picture

Trench warfare?

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

rdubs's picture

That sounds more like Tressel ball ending up with a 3-3 stalemate and all of the fans heading home from boredom.

rdubs's picture

I'd go back to the Napoleonic tactics of marching your dudes straight through their line (see my ND comment above).  Something that the Brits were pretty good at until the Americans changed the sport to 7v7 flag football and used our skill players to pick their lumbering units off one by one.  Cornwallis should have been more worried about player safety to try to get the rules changed.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I thought you were going to say Napoleon because he's the same size as Saban.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Earle's picture

That was my implication above, but I didn't want to make it obvious. Short tyrant is short.

Italics are for emphasis.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

My bad. I didn't see it.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

OSUStu's picture

Haha. I like it. However, its a common misconception that Napoleon was short. He was actually normal height.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

Earle's picture

I never let the facts get in the way of a good joke.  Or a short joke.  Or an SEC joke.  And especially a Saban joke.

Italics are for emphasis.

JKH1232's picture

Er, not to be that guy, but "Napoleonic Tactics" don't really come down to Hey Diddle Diddle, it's straight up the middle- They're quite more sophisticated than that. Cornwallis fought in the American Revolution, which is about 15-20 years before the outbreak of the French Revolutionary Wars, and have very little in common with them- it has far more in common with the 7 Years' War that preceded it.  And, most of the few American victories in that war used conventional forces and tactics.
 
Historical analogies tend to work best when historical.

rdubs's picture

You are right, but you got the idea, and that is what analogies are good for.

Idaho Helga's picture

Denny, you are onto something!  Hitler also would have run up the score and promoted cheap shots.  Then he would have berated the official when the personal foul was called.  And then promoted even MORE cheap shots.
But, his team would have had really, really cool uniforms and a fabulous band.  Being 100% german decent and having had my dad and 2 uncles fight in "the big one" on our side, I seriously detest the former paper hanger.  But you have to admit. Their apparel was better and even after a big loss, why things are lookin' up!
Moving further on, if JOE STALIN were a football coach, his team would sport very Penn St like uniforms, maybe all with the same number in a drab green or red.  The officials would never throw a flag on his team as their children were in the stands next to the soviet police escort there for their safety.  They would run the ball every play to one of two running backs.  Their players would get dehydrated, yet not complain.  If they lost, a completely new squad and coach would be on the field the next week.
 

Firedup's picture

Not sure Hitler would have run up the score.  At Dunkirk, He went into the victory formation in the perceived fourth quarter only to find out it was just halftime before the Toon Squad(Allies) came out with Uncle Sam's secret stuff to wallop the the Monstars(Nazis).  

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Idaho Helga's picture

Good point.  He was better at offense than defense. 

BED's picture

Am I the only one enjoying the history nerd thread?  Patton, Trench Warfare, Cornwallis?  Epic thread is epic.

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The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

OSUStu's picture

Hear, hear!

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

captain obvious's picture

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

Riggins's picture

Ya know, I'll say one thing for Hitler though...at least he killed Hitler.

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Confederates in the Attic. Essential reading that goes a long way towards explaining quotes like the one by our good friend Lee.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Yeah, Hitler left Berlin a smoldering hole in the ground. Maybe Saban will do the same for Tuscaloosa in the form of extensive NCAA violations that are happening just nobody is investigating it...yet. One can only hope.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

cinserious's picture

And nobody ever will investigate it because ESPN loooves the SEC and especially Alabama! Come on cincybuck, I'm callin you out! 

Gone ham, be back soon...

Cavluv23's picture

Wow...

World travel is my passion spreading the word and grace of Ohio in every corner of the world . 

lljjgg's picture

Not really helping those "Nicky Satan" nicknames when your own fanbase is comparing you to Hitler, is it?

unholy bucknut's picture

Im just glad this guy took a break from watching American history x and boinking his sister to fully enjoy SEC media day. 

fanosu99's picture

It must suck to be compared to such an evil person. If Hitler were alive I bet he'd be upset.

BuckeyeRealist13's picture

"SEC" fans are just as ignorant, and uneducated as their conference is good. They better be thankful they have Northerners running all of those programs down there. 

I've spent time in the South, I don't care what anybody says they don't have the passion for football that us Ohioans have. 

harleymanjax's picture

BAMA FAN!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"