Bielema Proposes Rule Change to Slow Down No-Huddle Offenses

June 18, 2013 at 1:21p    by Vico    
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Bert Bielema

Arkansas' Bret Bielema has an idea...

al.com reported Monday that Bielema, a member of the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel, proposed a rules change that would create "a 15-second substitution period" after each first down to allow defenses to substitute. At the recent SEC spring meetings, Bielema framed it as a player safety issue -- just as Saban did when asking for similar rules changes last October.

"Not to get on the coattails of some of the other coaches, there is a lot of truth that the way offensive philosophies are driven now, there's times where you can't get a defensive substitution in for 8, 10, 12 play drives," Bielema said, per al.com. "That has an effect on safety of that student-athlete, especially the bigger defensive linemen, that is really real."

You know Bert is in good company when he's siding with Nick Saban on the issue of imposing rules to slow down no-huddle up-tempo spread offenses, which Nick Saban didn't figure out when he was coaching at Michigan State against Joe Tiller's Purdue teams and still hasn't figured out now.


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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

He's still upset that Oregon won.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

OSU_undergrad's picture

You know he's a douche when he ends with "really real."

GoBucksToledo's picture

What is his next rule change suggestion, once every series/set of downs an offense has to line up with nine linemen?  Again, what a douche.

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Bert's philosophy is to get a bunch of fat guys to push the other fat guys out of the way so a big fast guy can run full steam ahead into a pile of fat guys - the definition of safety. 

MN Buckeye's picture

Bert does have a thing for fat guys.  Oh, wait . . .

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Nobody embodies pig sooie moreso then Bert...
Perfect match.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Saban knows whomever is going to knock him off his perch its going to beat him via the no-huddle because its his Achilles Heel.
Bert knows he wont be able to beat anyone if everyone has a no-huddle because getting out coached is his Achilles Heel.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

jthiel09's picture

Bert should stop complaining and maybe try using that offensive scheme so he can win a game or two in the SEC.
That & ....
Maybe if he made some better adjustments to stop Oregon he would be less hesitant to complain.

JT

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

It's quite possible that Bert still hasn't figured out how to even run the no-huddle.  Maybe he'll reach out and try to get rid of running quarterbacks too.  We all know how he's lost a time or two in crunch time due to that.

thekornidentity's picture

He said that there are real safety issues, yet he didn't give any specific issue or one piece of data...

“Nothing that comes easy in this world is worth a damn.” -Woody Hayes

rdubs's picture

I guess it is easier to change the rules than to prepare your athletes through proper conditioning.
 

Maffro's picture

This is the greatest gif the internet has seen since the Mortified Punter.

Buckeye06's picture

It's funny that Alabama used the no-huddle against ND, then in the same season bitched about it

Hovenaut's picture

It's nearly Summer's Eve, and we hear from Bert.

Coincidence?

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

bukyze's picture

No coincidence at all.
 

 

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

There comes a point in every message board's life when a douche package has to get posted. ....and this folks, is that time

Hovenaut's picture

'Preciate the visual aid Bukyze. +1.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Michael Citro's picture

That's so Bert. #WooBertSooie

Triv's picture

If spread Offensive Lineman can handle it, why can't Defensive Lineman handle it? It all comes down to conditioning

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

steensn's picture

From a player safety standpoint, you are right. From a conditioning stand point, it is easier on the OLine than the DLine. That is why a fast tempo offense hurts a D the most, you can swap Dlineman out with fresh legs.

Triv's picture

While it may be easier on the DL, with the emergence of the spread in college football you would think that coaches would emphasize DL being in good enough shape to stay on the field for a 10 play drive if absolutely necessary. Often times though, an offense won't go straight Nascar for an entire drive and if even one sub is made by the Offense, the defense is allowed to sub

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

steensn's picture

Which would require changing their game plan, which is why they want to put in a rule to keep them from having to think too hard...

Idaho Helga's picture

I might listen except here that the SEC! SEC! SEC! is screaming how the NFL loves them.   Going to stop no-huddle in the NFL?  Deal with it, Missy.

yrro's picture

O-linemen stay in a small space and block. D-linemen have to chase down running backs half their size who have run the whole width of the field away. Even in my limited experience playing football defensive line is much more tiring.

Sgt. Elias's picture


Pvt. Bert D. Bag present and accounted for...

"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here." 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

His expression after playing Bama.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Dayton Buckeye's picture

If you are that out of shape that you need a break, don't play football. What a loser. Player safety??????

AirForceNUT's picture

I was thinking the same thing..  Then i started thinking about the picture of bert with his shirt off trying to run off the field because he's to fat and lazy to play 8 downs in a row

yrro's picture

Bert's a douche, but did you catch the line from the Penn State game? They were going so fast that Norwell came up and vomited at Warinner's feet, and that's when he knew we had them. That doesn't sound healthy...

osu07asu10's picture

Sure it does. I'm not sure how many times I heard from coaches "YOU AREN'T TRYING IF YOU DON'T THROW UP!!!!""

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Earle's picture

Bert gonna bert...

Italics are for emphasis.

Idaho Helga's picture

lol.  Should be our new meme for him since he is such a tick that won't let go and can't be burnt off.

OSUs12-OH's picture

“I can tell you this,” says Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema. “We at the Big Ten don’t want to be like the SEC—in any way, shape or form.”

This was then^^

"That was about one coach and one instance," he is reported as saying.
He told The Sporting News on Tuesday "in the Big Ten, we disliked the SEC because of the success they had."

This is Bret now^^ Convenient right?

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

NW Buckeye's picture

When a defense is prepared properly the spread/hurry up really does not create the problems Bret is referring to.  Reference the 2010 Rose Bowl.  All the experts said that Oregon would run all over the Buckeyes with their high speed offense.  Mushmouth just couldn't gush enough about the frequency of offensive plays by the Ducks.  Yet, a properly prepared defense shut them down.  Tressel had the defense go against 2 offenses in practice so that the plays were basically non stop during team defense.  The result was something that none of the experts predicted.  
Subsequently, this showed a blueprint for other quality programs to prepare for the Ducks.  They easily run away from traditional defenses, but the teams who prepare well seem to contain them. 
I guess what I'm really saying here is that Bert, er Brent, er Brenda, er Bart, er Bret, is kind of incapable of being that really quality coach who can prepare his team defenses for multiple offenses.  Saban just wants the luxury of being a little lazy without having to do extra prep for those hurry up offenses. 

GoBucksToledo's picture

Seems like Stanford does pretty well against the Oregon spread/hurry-up, don't recall seeing a lot of those players injured - its usually the players on the other side of the ball!

BuckeyeW's picture

Any more info on how Tress had the D go against two Os? That sounds like a stroke of genius. I don't remember hearing anything about it.

NW Buckeye's picture

It was really quite simple, when one scout offense was running a play, the other was in the huddle getting the next play - when the first finished their play, the ball as set and the second unit was at the line of scrimmage ready to run another play.  The first unit huddled to make sure they got the next play and were ready to go when the second unit finished.  They ran for 15 to 20 minutes straight doing that everyday.  The D coaches had to have their set called with all subs in, and all the D players needed to be ready by the snap of the ball.  The scout offensive needed the time to huddle because they were not familiar with all of Oregon's sets and motions, so the huddle provided time for them to get things right. 
OSU was well aware that Oregon tried to snap the ball within 15 to 20 seconds.  The two offenses had to beat that time, and they did easily.  By the time the game was played many of the D players said it was like the Ducks were playing in slow motion. 
It sounds genius, but this type of drill is used at many levels (just maybe not so intense, and sometimes more as a conditioning drill).  The real benefit comes from scouting the video and making sure the scouts are emulating the opposing offense as best as possible. 

luckynutz's picture

Find it funny they would rather complain and try to change rules to stop the no huddle, rather than watch film and gameplan against it. Stanford has done a pretty solid job of figuring out ways to slow down oregon. Why not watch their film and figure a way to be successful in stopping it. Get real bert...just because you don't know how to solve the rubiks cube that is the no huddle doesn't mean you can create a rule to stop it. Get off your ass, get to work and figure it out douchebag. That's what coaches do.

GoBucksToledo's picture

Sorry, posted same/similar message before reading yours.

biggy84's picture

Different Bert, same message...

Poison nuts's picture

Man...He's such a pud whacker!

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

+1 because I haven't heard that expression in forever

Poison nuts's picture

Thank you! I've trying to add some retro-chic to my insults lately ;)

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

osu07asu10's picture

It was really well done, great touch!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

harleymanjax's picture

He's a tallywhacker!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

tdible2132's picture

Haha you mean a dooflinky!

almurray10's picture

Friggin' Bielema, man.
"I don't play that way, so others shouldn't be allowed to play that way."
Player safety issue? It's called conditioning your D1 athletes.

LadyBuck's picture

Oh Bert, providing us with amusement even when he's down with his people.

Shock-G's picture

In all of this I feel the worst for Bert's wife .... 

741's picture

Wait, is that really his wife? (WTF.)

Shock-G's picture

http://bustedcoverage.com/2013/06/10/jen-bielema-bikini-pictures/

Make sure you're reading your Thursday feature Ross Fulton articles and start brushing up on your coaching skills friends!

CALPOPPY's picture

Huh, apple bottom.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

osu07asu10's picture

HAHAHA!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

OSUs12-OH's picture

That is one nice looking woman...Wow is he a lucky SOB.  He must crush her when laying on top.  Something tells me she does a lot of riding and reverse cow girl...or she may get smashed by his obesity;-)

Enough said right?

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

osu07asu10's picture

who could possibly DV this?

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

CALPOPPY's picture

C'mon, what's not to believe. Any woman would have a stomach that flat after Biels was on top of her.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

OSUs12-OH's picture

That was hilarious man!  I didn't think of the pancake effect ;-)

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Bert's wife: in it for the $$$$

LadyBuck's picture

I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she ain't messin' with no broke, broke (yet)

KBonay's picture

They obviously don't dine together....

dzig's picture

I beg to differ. My bet is he eats for both and she just has drinks. She orders wine by the bottle, no glasses, just a long straw. I know that's what I'd do if I had to sit across the table from that slob and know he was my husband. Amazing how lots of cash can elevate one's level of attraction.

"all men are created equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others"

bukyze's picture

Looks like I'm going to need to rob a bank.

One Bad Buckeye's picture

Tries to slow down the game so the bigger out of shape people can keep up......yep sounds like the fat kid at recess.  

"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."

TheMish54's picture

This made me laugh!

allbucksallthetime's picture

If there are safety concerns and there has been an increase in "D" players suffering more injuries when facing a spread "O", where is the data that supports this?  It should be easy to determine the number of players injured on the "D" side when they face a spread team or a traditional "O" system.  Without such data, they are both merely giving lip service to player safety. 
If that is Bert's wife above, does she wear the shades because she is blind?   Talk about 'Beauty and the Beast?!'  Go Bucks!
 

VintonCountyBuck's picture

+1..that's my exact mindset as well.  That, or maybe the drink in her hand maybe on its umpteenth refill.  ;)

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

Knarcisi's picture

Sooooooooo Eeeeeeeeee!

741's picture

DEEEEEERRRRRP.

cplunk's picture

This is like all 5'7" of me showing up at a bball court and suggesting we play with no shots allowed in the paint

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Marv Levy used to bitch about the Bengals hurry up.

If you can't beat 'em, cry about it and hope someone changes a rule.

One Bad Buckeye's picture

Found a photo of Bielema in grade school......poor guy.  

 

"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."

osu07asu10's picture

We should probably go ahead and limit player size too...

Shit, those boys better not run too hard either....AT LEAST 1 foot has to ALWAYS be on the turf (a la speed walking rules)....
Also, no more tackle, and touching spreads germs, so when you speed walk towards your opponent (thats too violent, beloved participant in this game) and get close enough where the danger of physical contact exists....yell tag or goose

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeye80's picture

8,10,12 play drives?  How many of those are there in a normal game? Try getting a defensive stop moron!  It can be done....(see 2010 Rose Bowl).

Run_Fido_Run's picture

. . . there's times where you can't get a defensive substitution in for 8, 10, 12 play drives," Bielema said, per al.com. "That has an effect on safety of that student-athlete, especially the bigger defensive linemen, that is really real."

Hmmm, Bert . . . what else might have an effect on defensive linemen? Maybe when a power offense with 230+ lb RBs continues pounding the ball at a tiring defensive line until they score 83 points, with 24 of those points coming in the 4th quarter. Isn't that really real, too?

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

What a really real douchy douche.

Not about player safety at all. Its about ass safety. His butt hurt is simplymore than he can take.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

TMac's picture

Bert being Bert

hetuck's picture

I wish someone would ask Bielema and Saban what type of injuries defensive players are sustaining? Is there a pattern among Oregon's opponents other than the fake kind?

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

Knarcisi's picture

And no talking to recruits. God forbid you compete, Bert.