Your March Madness Round of 32 Open Thread II

By 11W Staff on March 23, 2013 at 7:05p
117 Comments
THIS IS MADNESS

It's scouting time as we'll get another good look at Gonzaga, the one-seed in Ohio State's West Region.

All four of this evening's games should be good ones with lines for each closer than seven points. In a sign of how much faith Vegas has in Gonzaga as a No. 1 seed, the Zags are favored by just 6½ over a Wichita State team that finished the regular season second in the Missouri Valley conference.

TIPOFF Game TV / Internet Region Location Favorite
7:10 PM #4 St. Louis vs #12 Oregon TBS / NCAA.com Midwest San Jose, CA STL (-4)
7:45 PM #3 Marquette vs #6 Butler CBS / NCAA.com East Lexington, KY MARQ (-2)
8:40 PM #1 Gonzaga vs #9 Wichita St TNT / NCAA.com West Salt Lake City, UT GONZ (-6½)
9:40 PM #14 Syracuse vs #12 Cal TBS / NCAA.com East San Jose, CA SYR (-7)

 

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Idaho Helga's picture

I'm quietly confident here that the Zags will pull one out and it won't be so close like the last time.  They are scared but still fundamentally a very, very good team. 
Now, if they lose, I won't cry because I would certainly like to see more top seeds gone from the Bucks bracket.  And I don't have to be the bad guy at work when we play beat them again.
That being said, go Zags.

UrbanCulture's picture

All should be exciting games. Definitely more interesting then the first four we got today

Dr. House's picture

go butler and StLou

UrbanCulture's picture

St. Louis. You must win.

skid21's picture

St. Louis is looking slow and uncertain. They spend almost the entire shot clock passing it around the perimeter.

UrbanCulture's picture

Man... no movement vs the zone for St Louis. Not looking like my elite 8 team

AJW_16's picture

Oregon's nickname used to be the "webfoots." The more you know.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

AJW_16's picture

Almost as good as the Nebraska Bugeaters.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

UrbanCulture's picture

If i'm st louis I attack as soon as the press is broken...don't let oregon establish their zone

740's picture

got a feeling marquette gets embarrassed

Defiance J's picture

I think they keep it close, but I haven't seen either team play a bunch. 

RedStorm45's picture

Good thing I picked Oregon!  Well, I think I have St. Louis in my other one with money so either way it doesn't matter, but I did say watch out for Oregon to at least the sweet 16 (and then obviously only followed that advice in 1 of my 2 brackets with money on it).

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Arizona has looked good so far. If the Buckeyes are able to get past ISU, though, the media will be all over Arizona, praising them, picking them to upset Ohio State. It will flip the narrative a bit and take a little pressure off the Buckeyes. 

Danify's picture

And we will get the student versus the teacher talk again. With Sean Miller facing off against Thad Matta since OSU's epic comeback against Xavier and Ron Lewis' heroic last second shot.

RedStorm45's picture

Love this.  Gonzaga looks terrible.

armybuckinva's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzaga not only lost, but gets blown out of the arena.

RedStorm45's picture

If the shockers could rebound, it would be double digits right now.

Dr. House's picture

i dont get it every year i forget how good the shockers are and then i have them exit early and every year i feel like an idiot for doing it.

armybuckinva's picture

Don't feel bad man, I'm right there with ya.

RedStorm45's picture

Well they haven't been to the sweet 16 very often.

RedStorm45's picture

Gonzaga being Gonzaga. Overrated.

AJW_16's picture

Yeah, its surprising that Gonzaga really hasn't done much in the tourney since that run to the Eilte Eight like, what, ten years ago? There are lots of non-BCS schools that have done MUCH more than Zaga in that time period: Butler, Xavier, George Mason, VCU, even Wichita State. Yet they are all we hear about...

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

That's because of Gonzaga's consistency, chances are in ten years the current mid-major schools who have achieved more than the 'Zags will be irrelevant.  They have a great program, just need to get over the hill.

 
AJW_16's picture

Perhaps you can say that about George Mason and Wichita, but I disagree that Gonzaga has been more consistent than, say, Butler or XU.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Gonzaga has won a conference title 14 out of the last 15 years, no mid major can even approach that kind of consistency.  Although Xavier is kind of close.

 
AJW_16's picture

Can't even approach? Butler recently almost won the national championship, and then went back to the game. Certainly Gonzaga has been consistent and their streak of conference championships is impressive, but I don't think there is much evidence that they are head and shoulders above any other non-BCS schools.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

I am just speaking in terms of being good consistently year after year.  In the last ten years Butler has missed the Tournament 4 times, you don't see that with Gonzaga.  Under Brad Stevens they have only missed the tourney once but I would like to see if Butler can keep it up long term.

 
argyle182021's picture

Since 2000:
Zags: 4 Sweet 16s, 7 round of 32, 3 first round losses
Butler: 2 championship games, 2 Sweet 16s, 3 round of 32, 2 first round losses
Xavier: 2 Elite 8s, 3 Sweet 16s, 3 round of 32, 3 first round losses 
 

armybuckinva's picture

Wichita St needs a big man in a bad way.  

armybuckinva's picture

Nevermind, they have a 7 footer down low.  WTF has he been doing all game.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Refs trying to do all they can to keep Zaga in the game now. 

armybuckinva's picture

Pangos time Pangos time Pangos time.  Shut up Doug.

UrbanCulture's picture

The refs are trying to keep gonzaga in it

KBonay's picture

Lol. Wichita St cheerleader giving the 'shocker' sign. 

RedStorm45's picture

11 team fouls on the shockers??

Dr. House's picture

rotnei clarke is cold blooded with the sweetest quickest stroke ever

KBonay's picture

Go Shockers...lol. 
 

KBonay's picture

...and her face. Priceless.

Squirrel Master's picture

"Oh that little guy, don't worry about that little guy! He's your friend!"
 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

AJW_16's picture

Count it. That was before the buzzer.

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

MediBuck's picture

Zags being Zags. My predictions (B1G elite, Pac-12 underrated, MWC overrated, Big East perennially overrated) coming true. Too bad Wisconsin, Georgetown, and UNLV have irrecoverably screwed up my brackets. Thanks, guys.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

JakeBuckeye's picture

I don't want to count our chickens early, but if Gonzaga loses... Boy oh boy!

BuckeyeBoyer85's picture

Buzz Williams is a madman.

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

RedStorm45's picture

Wow, the Wichita state band is...excited.

RedStorm45's picture

These refs in salt lake are baaaaad.

DetroitBuckeye's picture

That was an amazing dunk by Butler.

RedStorm45's picture

The fix is in.  Lol kidding but this officiating is horrible.

RedStorm45's picture

I take it back.  These refs are all Zags.

armybuckinva's picture

The guy from Butler did not touch that ball.  Is that not reviewable?

brandonbauer87's picture

Is this B1G refs in the Butler/Marquette game?

RedStorm45's picture

Gonzaga shooting 28% and only 4 guys have scored.

RedStorm45's picture

Salt Lake City officiating is worse than what we saw in the big ten.  Maybe they're a big ten crew I can't tell.

penult's picture

Butler got flat out robbed.

armybuckinva's picture

Am I hearing a "over-rated" chant at the Butler/Marquette game?  LOL exactly who is this chant directed towards?   

Squirrel Master's picture

What the crap was that dumbass shot butler! come on!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

armybuckinva's picture

Why!!??!?!?!?! You got to be kidding me.  Why not just shoot it from half court?  Stupid..........just stupid.

DetroitBuckeye's picture

This Butler game is incredible.

Squirrel Master's picture

I still can't believe Oregon beat St Louis! The selection committee sorely missed on that one. So did I. As long as Cal goes down because I can't take it anymore with Charles Barkley being somewhat right about the PAC 12. He is right they are better than everyone thought but they aren't the best. I still love how he hedged his bet early with MWC and PAC12, and now is all PAC12. So I really want PAC teams to lose and 6 B1G teams in the 16.
WOW, HE FELL OVER! 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I'd say he's right about Oregon (and a lot of people felt they were a massive underseed), but not so much about the Pac-12 in general. Arizona has gotten to the Sweet 16, but they haven't beaten a higher seed yet.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

740's picture

do the nfl replacement officials do basketball games as well?

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Glad we finally had an exciting ending. Gladder that I didn't lose a third Elite 8 team.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Squirrel Master's picture

Hanging tough with 7 of 8 and looking decent with all of them so far. Plus I still have all my final four. 
So there is hope!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

armybuckinva's picture

11 minutes to go and Gonzaga is already in the bonus.

Knarcisi's picture

Finally some competitive games. 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

The shockers are feeling it

 
armybuckinva's picture

Wichita is flipping unconcious from the 3!!  Holy shit.

argyle182021's picture

Should've been a time out.  Don't think Zaga had possession to make that a jumpball

RedStorm45's picture

I guess a bear hug isn't a foul??? These refs are awful.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Wow, Gonzaga, wtf?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BME_Buckeye's picture

If the Shockers win, I'm about to play some Silk the SHOCKER! 
Buckeyes need to win tomorrow!

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Knarcisi's picture

Wonder if WSU students get to give their girlfriends shockers after a sweet 16 birth. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

ugh

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Knarcisi's picture

Last 2 games made it worth watching all day. 

Seabass1974's picture

Another big upset in the making.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

BuckeyeChief's picture

Anyone else thing college uniforms are nuts? Is it just me or are Witchita's unis black? (Aren't there colors brown and yellow?) Iona is red and yellow, unis are black?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Na na naaaa naaa.... na na naaaa naaa....

Class of 2010.

Squirrel Master's picture

Before now, my bracket was Fukt! Now it just got bent over and shocked!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

armybuckinva's picture

Make your free throws Wichita and you'll be dancing in the sweet 16.

Idaho Helga's picture

OK. I thought they were better but,um,no. 

RedStorm45's picture

Glad I picked Wichita State!!

UrbanCulture's picture

Don't go all memphis witchita

armybuckinva's picture

No worries, Gonzaga will instead.

DetroitBuckeye's picture

It seems like no teams are capable of hitting free throws in this tourney.

 
 
Squirrel Master's picture

uh, Jamie Dixon just got an extension to 2023 with Pittsburgh. Are they serious? Guy hasn't won jack in the tourney, even when he has a #1 seed. 

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

BuckeyeChief's picture

Hit these FT's!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeChief's picture

Brick shooting contest?

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

UrbanCulture's picture

w0w...someone a 9 seed or lower is going to the elite 8...wow
 

xrox's picture

Note to Buckeyes:
DON'T LOOK AHEAD!

Buckeye Chuck's picture

WE ARE THE ONLY ONE OF THE TOP 5 SEEDS STILL ALIVE IN THE WEST REGION OMG

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Knarcisi's picture

Zags got the shocker. 

armybuckinva's picture

Gonzaga losing makes me feel slightly better about Butler bending me over.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Welp, my bracket is busted!

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

kr66osu's picture

OSU has no excuse if they don't make it to the Final Four

BUCKfutter's picture

my oh my. win tomorrow bucks

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

BME_Buckeye's picture

Lol, the broadcaster said, America is tearing up their brackets. No, America knew Gonzaga was overrated! 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

armybuckinva's picture

That's Doug Gottlieb for ya.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Holy shit!

Class of 2010.

M Man's picture

Can they just give Ohio State a "bye," with tickets to Atlanta?

xrox's picture

I really wish that could happen. Iowa State can run and hit threes. Arizona is dangerous. Wichita State is good.
This probably isn't gonna be as easy as it looks...

popeurban's picture

I was at both games Friday, Iowa state looked good, osu looked better.  Take care of business.

M Man's picture

And oh by the way.  My bracket has a Final Four of Louisville, OSU, Florida and IU.  With OSU beating IU for a national championship.
There, I've done it.  The sportscasters' curse.

Idaho Helga's picture

well bless you, why you  corn and smurf opponent! I have the same 4. (no Zags in mine despite previous support)

Geraffi's picture

I have the same. Go Bucks!

popeurban's picture

Just posted a thread about this.  I feel fortunate.  Take care of business buckeyes.

WiliestBuckeye's picture

They are trying M Man, they are trying.

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."

Danify's picture

If Ohio State doesn't make it to the Final Four this year, the 2011 team of Diebler, Lighty, Lauderdale, Bufford, and Sullinger should come back and smack them. 

d1145fresh's picture

If anyone has the West bracket perfect so far then you must pick based on team colors or mascots or something because that is unreal. 1,3,4,5,7 and 8 are out. Number 2 better stay focused. 

Idaho Helga's picture

I like the  #2. Anybody else?

Knarcisi's picture

Boheim likes the Shocker!

Knarcisi's picture

When did Mike Montgomery retire as the Chief on Chips?