Friday Skull Session

By Elika on February 22, 2013 at 6:05a
78 Comments

Mornin', Sunshine!

Last night I fell into the abyss of comments on two stories that were posted here, and the comments on the resulting plea from Management for everyone here to behave like adults. (That's simple enough, right?)

The commentary reminded me of my love/hate relationship with comments on here. I should clarify: the "hate" portion of "love/hate" doesn't come from me disagreeing with anyone's political beliefs, rather just that I hating reading an endless chain that leads me to wonder why people forget to be kind, simply because we're not interacting face to face.

Anyway, I digress. There's actually about a 10:1 ratio of love:hate — and this is where I intended to go with this — and that reminded me that I wanted to thank you all for a few things:

1. For making this such an enjoyable place to stop by every day. Particularly, one that gives me a little piece of where I consider to be my "home away from home", Columbus, OH. What's better than surrounding yourself with Buckeye Nation, even if it's 2,500 miles away?

2. For all your insightful interpretations of my dream last week. (Or, for those of you who were wondering why you were reading it, thank you for putting up with it. I'm sure you're wondering the same about this intro.)

3. For the comments yesterday (by GOBUCKS713, RIGGINS, and GAMETIME) that eventually evolved into BUCKEYENEER's idea of a Woody Hayes hologram (ala Tupac at Coachella) at the Mirror Lake jump each year. I've found that I'm easier to amuse as I get older, but: Best. Idea. Ever.

 ACADEMIC ALL-SWOON OF THE YEAR. Speaking of Buckeyes we love to love, your favorite rosy-cheeked hoops player, Aaron Craft, was named the Academic All-American of the Year by the College Sports Information Directors of America yesterday, making it the second year in a row that the Findlay native made the Academic All-America first team. His 2011-2012 selection made him the first OSU's men's basketball player in over 40 years to receive the honor.

You're not shocked though, right? In addition to averaging 9.2 points, 4.6 assists and 2 steals per game, Aaron Craft has also managed to maintain a 3.92 GPA as a nutrition (pre-med) major. How many of us could claim that, even without the pressures of playing Ohio State basketball and making the entire state of Ohio swoon every time you do... anything?

In a statement, Craft said he was humbled:

“[It is a great honor and] humbling to have the opportunity to represent the Ohio State University. I am thankful for all the support in helping me to improve in the classroom and on the court.”

Though not Buckeye news, but equally newsworthy, Elena Delle Donne from Delaware received the women's Academic All-American of the Year honor. Admittedly, I don't watch women's basketball, but Delle Donne is a name I definitely remembered from this heartwarming story. It's nice to see such fine examples of human beings in college sports today, and be reminded of the things that are most important in life.

 B1GERS IN INDY. With the NFL Combine starting tomorrow, 32 Big Ten players, including seven from Ohio State, have packed up their tighties and headed to Indianapolis. In case you needed a quick refresher, those seven Buckeyes are:

Zach Boren, RB
Reid Fragel, OL
Johnathan Hankins, DL
Etienne Sabino, LB
John Simon, DL
Jake Stoneburner
Nathan Williams, DL

Adam Rittenberg, B1G Blogger for ESPN, took a look at B1G attendance at the combine in recent years, a study that unsurprisingly put the Buckeyes and the Badgers at the top. Rittenberg also pointed out that, despite their lack of prowess on the recruiting trail, the Iowa Hawkeyes have managed to produce a lot of NFL players. "The scouts love Kirk Ferentz and his program," Rittenberg said. Perhaps that is what they're paying him so much for?

The post also points out the low number of Wolverines that have been invited to the combine in recent years (six in the last three years, compared to Ohio State's 20), but mentions that the jump from Rich Rodriguez to Brady Hoke, and the effect it has had on recruiting, should turn that around in upcoming years. 

Illinois' got jabbed a bit, as Rittenberg pointed out that despite similar combine numbers as Michigan State, the Illini have managed to completely underachieve in comparison. 

Lastly, Northwestern got some Moneyball-esque love, as Rittenberg claims they are the B1G team that is getting the most of its talent, having won 23 games in three seasons, despite only sending one player to the combine.

While we're on the subject of Buckeyes at the combine, Branson Wright of the Plain Dealer had a nice mini-write up on Reid Fragel

Could the B1G Championship move to Chicago, after 2015?

 WINDY CITY PICKING UP STEAM. Moving on from Indianapolis, that is exactly what the B1G CCG should do.

The Big Ten Conference Championship Game has been awarded to Indianapolis through 2015, but then it is back up for grabs. Chicago wasn't exactly full prepared for the first bidding process back in 2011, but has since implementing quite a few changes since then, such as launching its own sports commission in 2011, as part of the city's official tourism organization. 

Sam Stark, the executive director of the Chicago Sports Commission, said the following:

"Just the synergy between the Big Ten and Chicago warrants a discussion about the event. The amount of alumni here in this market, it's an event that we need to look at. We'll first talk to the folks at [Soldier Field Management] and the Bears, and get their interest level. But on the surface, it certainly seems like an event that has a place in Chicago. This is our first effort as a sports commission to welcome in the Big Ten in a way that hasn't happened before. This will allow us to sit down with them afterward and get feedback. This will really be the starter on those kinds of discussions."

With Chicago getting its act together for the next bid process, there shouldn't be too much that Chicago can't provide that Indianapolis can, other than an indoor facility to play the game in. We'll see who's able to step things up enough, when the time comes.

 WTF, NCAA? I'm going to start this topic with full disclosure, admitting something that isn't so easy to admit on an Ohio State site. I do get that the NCAA is charged with a difficult task. With the understanding that their intent is to preserve the integrity of the student-athlete, we have to realize that it can not be easy to create rules that determine exactly where to draw these lines. 

That said, some of these stories of what is (or would be, in some cases) an NCAA violation, are getting flat out ridiculous, to the point where they're putting bagels and cream cheese to shame. Minnesota wrestler Joel Bauman, for example, who grew up with some obstacles in his life, and eventually used music as a way to spread motivation to others. Minnesota's interpretation of an NCAA rule has prompted them to ask Bauman to start marketing his music under an alias, should he want to continue to pursue music and keep his wrestling scholarship. Specifically, they've asked him to remove his name from his songs and his images from his videos.

Though he would really love to keep his scholarship, Bauman is pretty adamant that he doesn't want to continue creating music under an alias, claiming it would defeat the whole purpose of the motivational messages his trying to spread. Hopefully, for Bauman's sake and for many others, the line between student-athlete and professional can be better resolved over time.

 LINKS. LINKS. LINKS. This should not require an Oscars party to make... Because we could all use a pep talk... Read the caption, and appreciate the little things... Ooops, this was pretty funny... Geek-tastic... The second episode of JaMarcus Russell's "comeback" series.

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gumtape's picture

So a Minnesota Wrestler is selling something he created and owns for a profit. Sounds like he is breaking a stupid rule that doesn't matter and has no victims. I thought the spirit of the rule was based on giving an athlete an advantage that other students do not, by virtue of not being athletes, have access too.

High and tight boo boo

Unky Buck's picture

Great point. He in no way should be viewed as violating any sort of rule. He's using his God given ability to spread a message through music. Anyone else with this ability is not prohibited from doing it and his name sake as a wrestler has not lead to his popularity as a musician. How can that be viewed as an NCAA violation? This can be summed up in one word....ridiculous.

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Ethos's picture

I see both sides.  Although I agree that is BS, I understand the reasoning of the rule.  Think of it this way, he creates a cd and sells it, so Braxton miller creates a cd of his favorite songs, puts his picture on it, and sells that.  Who do you think will make more money?  
 
So then Saban tells a recruit, hey, you'll be so famous you can seel a popsicle stick with your picture attached it'll pay for your next car.  
 
Then it just snowballs from there.
 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

jeremytwoface's picture

Wait... Didn't the wrestler create this music himself?
 
What you're describing is someone taking someone else's work and selling it basically as their own. Totally different.
 
The NCAA is basically telling this guy he can't have a side job because it's making him money. I understand what you are trying to say... that more high profile student athletes can use their '
celeberty' status to their advantage and sell more music, but there shouldn't be a rule against someone creating something artistic and then selling it to people.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Ethos's picture

right but what is artistic and what isn't is vague at best.  Maybe cobbling up your favorite songs is a bad idea.  It could be a braxton miller and the entire offense doing a gagnum style video or some crazy "artistic" video, putting it on a cd, and selling it.  The point is it can be abused very easily.  
Does this suck?  Absolutely, but you have to look at it from the NCAA's point of view which is, they don't have the time to individually approve certain things so they have to ban it wholesale. 

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

jeremytwoface's picture

Yeah... I see your point.
 
Still a little absurd. 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

gumtape's picture

To expand on the original article written by Andy Staples in SI. Football players are still allowed to get summer jobs. They have to show up and work in order to get paid, but that is still allowable in the rules. The problem is the enforcement division of the NCAA has very little ability to monitor such work (see Jordan Hall 2011).
An analogy that I see in this case is a trumpet player that goes to college on a music scholarship due to a combination of talent and hard work. They decide to get a job in the evenings playing jazz in a night club. They can maintain a scholarship and make extra money, as they should.
This all comes down to the NCAA and the member schools trying to profit from the skills and likenesses of the student athletes and fear that any change would effect their ability to do so.
 

High and tight boo boo

Dread's picture

Well actually they are saying he can do it but must do it anonymously. I think the point might be that if Braxton created an album whether it was good or not it would sell. That could be a way to capitalize of you image as an amateur collegiate athlete, or a way for boosters or colleges to funnel money to their athletes.
 
edit: Didn't read the rest of the comments. This point has been stated below.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'll play devil's advocate on behalf of the NCAA (which is funny because I believe the NCAA should be dissolved and replaced by another rules body) . . .
What if Johhny Manziel cuts a rap single, which is promoted by Wale? A bunch of Texas AM fans go out and buy it even though Johnny sounds like this:

Under that scenario, is Manziel receiving money from the song or because he's a star collegiate athlete? I.e., does that become an indirect way of paying-for-play? 

Ethos's picture

exactly.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Sorry, Ethos! I just glanced back at this thread and noticed that you made the same point before I did. That I unnecessarily made viewers suffer through the rap stylings of The Average Homeboy.  

BucksfanXC's picture

Good example. Also I thought about during Tatgate, if a star QB goes to sell his used car and someone buys it for above Kelly Blue Book, is it because it was once owned by the QB, which would make it a violation. So say John Simon is selling his car, would you pay him over asking price just so you could say you owned John Simon's car and so your friends could make outdated Seinfeld references by asking if it was really "Jon" Simon's car?

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Ethos's picture

+1 for Seinfeld, god what a great show.  I have yet to see anything of equal value since.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

Buckeyejason's picture

+1 for Seinfeld, god what a great show.  I have yet to see anything of equal value since.

Totally agree with that. I still watch it almost every day lol.
As far as the combine goes..for all those people that thought Stoneburner was 6'5"-6'6"..he measured in at 6'3".

BUCKEYES BABY!

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

I'm with you on that. But have you followed Curb your Enthusiasm? It's a good placebo, with a lot of the same schtick.

WB

Buckeyejason's picture

I've been watching it recently but not really getting the hype.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I'm guessing i'm one of those people that will never understand the love for Seinfeld

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

cinserious's picture

I think that rapper secretly wants to be Jim McMahon in the mid 80's.

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

jeremytwoface's picture

This is true... But where is the line drawn?
What if AJ McCarron wants to get a summer job at a restaurant bussing tables and Alabama fans start going to that restaurant more than others just because AJ McCarron works there? And then the restaurant starts paying their employees (including AJ) $1.00 more hourly because they have more business?
 
Will the NCAA say he can't work there because his status is earning him money? I know it's a different situation.. kind of apples to oranges. But where does it stop?

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

awwwwwwop's picture

Well actually in that case, as long as all employees made the same amount for doing the same work, it would likely not be a violation because he is not getting an opportunity that any other employee working at the store at the same time would get.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

jeremytwoface's picture

Fair enough...
Still think it's a dumb rule though lol.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good question. Ultimately, the NCAA does not have clear, coherent answers to all the different questions that derive from such rules. They end making what seem like fairly arbitrary rulings while the kids (student athletes) pay the price.

NC_Buckeye's picture

What if AJ was a waiter? Wouldn't you be suspicious if McCarron's tables had Franklins, McKinleys, and Clevelands ($100, $500, & $1000 bills) left as tips by his customers? I could totally see that happening and not just by out-of-control boosters. Just regular Bama fans would start padding his wallet. (Poor AJ has to work at Olive Garden to make ends meet. Honey, leave that poor boy a couple fifties.)
I've said it on 11W before, revenue players should be paid a monthly stipend like graduate assistants. And like GA's, they should agree to not have any other sources of income while in the program.

Maestro's picture

Denny Blaze got skillz and hops.

vacuuming sucks

dbit's picture

Man... I sure hope Kenny Guiton produces some music.  Maybe if he played the saxophone or something!

luckynewman13's picture

I see both sides of it as well. But this is the reason the NCAA will eventually adopt Olympic rules for "amateur" athletes.
 
 

Boom777's picture

It would be great if they gave the B1G championship game a different venue to play in. I love solider field that's a really nice place.

Wherever you are, there you be!

oregonianbuckeye's picture

I agree. Why not have the game rotate? With enough pro stadiums in B1G states, you could play in Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay (whoa), Chicago, Indy, Pitt, Minn, NY, Balt, Clev and/or Cincy. I think it would be neat to get to travel to those cities, because Indy and/or Chicago will get tiresome for the Bucks to go to every year :)

buckeyedude's picture

Green Bay and Baltimore are not centrally located. The rest of them, I have no problem with.  I know many here don't like the armpit of America, Detroit, but I would love OSU playing in a CCG there and turning that city S & G.  Pissing off the locals would be fun.
I am all for rotating the location of the B1G CCG.

 

 

toad1204's picture

I wouldnt have a problem with Indy Chicago Detroit Possibly Cleveland or Cincy.  Once you get through that any other cities start looking like outliers for the prospective fan base traveler($) which would be attending.  I'm sure Delany's all over this. 
EDIT: FWIW Stadium Capacities...
Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium - 72,3000
Chicago Soldier Field II- 63,000
Cincinnati PBS- 65,600
Detroit Ford Field 65,000
Indy Lucas Oil- 63,000

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

iball's picture

So until recently, the B1G would not schedule night games in November and now they want the championship played at NIGHT OUTDOORS in CHICAGO??!!
What competitive advantage do we gain with southern school playing our final game in a completely different climate than what the bowl game will be held in?
Dumb idea.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Jason Priestas's picture

Hmm... I don't know. I've never heard of the Ravens, Patriots or Steelers complaining about the weather in the AFC Championship Game and how it will be so much colder than the Super Bowl.

btalbert25's picture

I just don't see how it matters at all.  If anything, after a cold/rainy/snowy night in Chicago a bowl game in Pasadena would be a welcome change and they'd be well equipped to handle it.  

Poison nuts's picture

^^^ My thoughts as well.

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

luckynewman13's picture

a blizzard just swept through Arizona. For all we know the weather in Pasadena January 1st 2014 could be worse than Chicago.

brylee's picture

If Chicago is being considered, simply because it is outdoor's, then there would be no argument against a city like Cleveland or Cincinnatti from bidding on the game.  Neither of those cities actually have a B1G team either, whereas Chicago has NWestern.

Ethos's picture

have you never been to chicago?  It's THE B1G alumni capital of the world.
 
edit: fyi I didn't downvote you, whoever did that is a tool.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

GoBucks713's picture

That statue in front of the Woody should be a Hologram of Woody too. Just sayin'.
 
As far as a CCG in Chicago, I think it's a good idea, as long as it's held in consideration of the weather. The only advantage to holding the game in Indianapolis is the dome, but if that's the case, why not Detroit (other than the fact that I'm fairly certain you'll contract hepatitis just from breathing the air, or lead or knife poisoning for that matter. I'm a fan of possibly hosting it in the different regions of the B1G every year. Just a thought.
 
Great Skully Elika!

-The Aristocrats!

BammBammRiley's picture

Nah... keep Woody statue... a hologram of Elika would be quite awesome though... what better way to keep her greatness close though she's so far far away!

Elika hologram anyone?

BammBamm is my dog, Riley is my 4 yr old daughter, and THE Ohio state Buckeyes complete the three most sacred loves I cherish

GoBucks713's picture

The Elika hologram would only work if it were constantly eating food and yelling obscenities at people that walk by wearing blue.

-The Aristocrats!

BammBammRiley's picture

Lol.... the visuals of this has me cracking up!!!

BammBamm is my dog, Riley is my 4 yr old daughter, and THE Ohio state Buckeyes complete the three most sacred loves I cherish

Nutbuck1959's picture

Even though we opine constantly about playoffs and southern teams having to come up here in December, etc., it is still a big advantage to have an indoor facility for the championship game.. Indy seems to have most of what Chicago has at a cheaper price for fans. Not having to sit in rain or other inclement weather seems rather appealing.

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Good point about the cheaper price. Chicago isn't cheap, by any means. I know a lot of people prefer indoors, but I think it would be awesome to have it outdoors. Some of the best NFL playoffs games have been in rough weather, and as a fan I thought the Game this past year was awesome in the light snow. 

TheShadow's picture

I missed the comments on the hologram idea but whole heartedly agree it's a brilliant idea. A mirror lake appearance by Woody is good but even better is Woody showing up in Ohio stadium at a critical fourth and one, goal line stance, etc. moment! Imagine how the crowd would react let alone the team and coaches. Dang, I get pumped every time I think about that idea. Imagine the attention tOSU would get nationally for pulling something like that off. 

Buckeye80's picture

I've said it before, but why not a home field B1G Championship game? 

buckeyedude's picture

I'm not totally against that, but home field advantage is a huge advantage for a home team. I think a neutral field is best for a CCG. Level the playing field.

Also, I just think having the CCG playing in a different location keeps people interested. Just like when a team plays in the same bowl game several years in a row, the fans lose interest and don't spend the money to go. Spread the wealth, and let other Midwest cities enjoy the windfall from hosting the game.

Is the city of Toledo out of the question? I bet they could squeeze 36,000 in the Glass Bowl. ;)

 

 

Buckeye80's picture

I agree that it is a huge advantage, but it does make league games that much more important.  Plus, you would probably never see a repeat of last years empty stadium. 

oregonianbuckeye's picture

That's true. Although, I tend to think that last year was an outlier due to sanctions for tOSU and psu. PAC-12 uses the conference championship game as a home game for the higher ranked team though, mostly because they can't draw the same crowds to neutral site locations. They also moved the PAC-12 bball tourney to Vegas, which is a glorious idea. 

Buckeye80's picture

I don't think that we can talk about not drawing crowds to neutral site locations after last years debacle.  I agree that the B1G CG would have looked different if tOSU and PSU weren't under sanctions, but c'mon man!  It was Nebraska and Wisconsin!  They can't travel better than that?  They should!  I don't care what their records were, they were playing for the B1G championship!  These two teams are top tier B1G programs, and they have to represent better than that.  Quite frankly, as a Buckeye fan (and therefore by default a B1G fan) that empty stadium was embarrassing.  I can't even believe my eyes when I see "the U" playing in that empty stadium in Miami.  It's pathetic really, and makes me thankful that the Shoe is sold out every game.  I just don't want to see an empty stadium like that in a game that many people around the country are watching, especially if we want the B1G brand to overtake the SEC.

cplunk's picture

Works for the NFL Conference championships just fine. I'm completely in favor of a home field championship game. And home field games for the first round of the new playoffs. And conference champs being seeded higher than any wild cards in all circumstances (just like pretty much every other sport known to man).

Lincoln's picture

why people forget to be kind, simply because we're not interacting face to face.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexactly

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Most of the time when it comes to religion and politics it doesn't really matter. Being face to face can actually make the situation worse.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Poison nuts's picture

Thanks for posting the link that said "read the caption". Humbling indeed. Hope everyone looks at that one & thinks about things for a minute...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

buckguyfan1's picture

Nice call... Perspective is underrated.

JYBUCKEYE's picture

First timer here.   I am not social media guy, the exact opposite actually.  But decided to create an account with 11W cause I absolutely love this site.  The articles are great!  But what really surprised me are the comments.  Most comment are courteous and intelligent.  Though, I should expect that from OSU fans.  Just wanted to thank 11W for a great site.  
    I would like to see the CCG stay in Indy.  I attended the game last year and plan on attending every year.  Was very impressed with the stadium and the city as a whole.  Can't wait for the electricity that comes with UFM bringing his team to Indy.  Go Bucks!!!

BammBammRiley's picture

Exactly why this is currently the only site I am a forum member of! And only the second ever, first was an epic thread leading up to the release of a much anticipated phone... (my love for sports splits time with some geeking-out!) involving great people with amazing character and off-topic subjects. Like this site, just a wonderful class-act community.

BammBamm is my dog, Riley is my 4 yr old daughter, and THE Ohio state Buckeyes complete the three most sacred loves I cherish

nickma71's picture

 that Indianapolis can, other than an indoor facility to play the game in. 

I will not go to a game in Chicago. I will make the 4 hour drive this year to Indy, but not the 4 hour drive to Chicago.

Ethos's picture

yeah, but the 1 million or so big 10 fans that already live there will.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best

Lincoln's picture

I once watched "The Game" at a Buckeye Bar in Chicago - I wish I can remember the name, because it was THE best atmosphere I have ever been in outside the shoe. Anyhow I was amazed walking around after the game of the amount of jerseys I saw. So many Ohio State and MC fans walking around downtown, along with MSU, Northwestert, Purdue,  Penn State etc. It really felt like I was at the B1G tourney.
 
Side note, the beer specials and atmosphere led me to probably have too many pops at the bar  I was at. I found out that evening that wives do not like it when you yell O-H at random fans when they are trying to shop, especially when they are all wearing the sun and blue, and are none to pleased to see you.

chitown buckeye's picture

There are a lot of OSU bars out here. I've gone to one of the these bars for "the game" the last 7 yrs and I will say it is the best atmosphere/time Ive had watching "the game." I attended OSU in the late 90, and lived in Columbus for 9 yrs and I will tell you Chicago is a great B1G town and OSU town. Soldier Field would sell out if OSU were playing.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

BucksfanXC's picture

So the commenters getting shout outs made me think a bit. First pretty cool, congrats guys. Then why not do more of this? Maybe have a commenter of the week, forum of the week, blog post of the week? Get a little competition going, maybe motivate some people to create some higher quality stuff, better formatting, better/well researched content, maybe even something getting bumped to the front page. I loved the stuff yesterday where we had a booze thread, a food porn thread, and an expectant babies thread. Made me smile.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

RedStorm45's picture

Kid President, FTW!

bedheadjc's picture

Someone downvoted an uplifting peptalk...with a shout-out to a little girl fighting cancer?
That's some cold ass shit right there.
Shameful.
 
The Pep Talk made my day! Thank you, Elika.

Elika's picture

Glad you enjoyed it!

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

rdubs's picture

If the conference expands any more than it has the championship game will likely rotate to accommodate our new members.  Not sure if that means somewhere like Philly (again outside) or going into North Carolina (Charlotte I guess).  But it will happen.  But in the meanwhile I like the idea of Chicago getting it every once in a while.

cronimi's picture

As a Charlotte resident, I would LOVE to have the B1G CCG in Charlotte. But I fear that the stadium would look similar to Belk Bowls though -- I don't know if the crowds would show. Home field is a guaranteed way to get a full stadium. 

Elika's picture

I went to an ACC CCG in Charlotte and froze. my. butt. off. (But if it it was a B1G CCG in Chicago, with the Buckeyes--- it would've been worth it.)

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

partisan's picture

I would travel to Chicago for the B1G championship in a heartbeat, fantastic city.  Indy...not so much

Elika's picture

Truthfully, I'd probably go to either one, the first time OSU is there... but would be MUCH more excited for Chicago.

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

Davep160's picture

Chicago Pros: Easier to fly into, Better Food
Chicago Cons: Traffic sucks, Outdoor Stadium
Indianapolis Pros: Easier to Drive to from Ohio, Better Traffic, Indoor Stadium
Indianapolis Cons: Hard to fly to, It's not Chicago.
I am torn... 

J.Mo's picture

In terms of traffic and Chicago... if you're flying into Chicago, it's easy enough to get around with public transit. Stay somewhere near a CTA train station, take it to the loop. Get on the orange line headed towards Midway but get off at Roosevelt. Take the #3 or #4 bus from the corner of Roosevelt/M*ch*g*n to 18th and M*ch*g*n and head east on 18th and then there is a walk-way to Solider field from where 18th dead-ends (like a block away from Michigan).

Gametime's picture

Another great skull session as usual :). And I'm sure the other's mentioned would agree - but we're especially appreciative for the shout out Elika! Anything to keep you smiling ;) But yea, we've got to put together some sort of proposal for this to happen. Woody on Mirror Lake has to go down!

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

Elika's picture

Glad you enjoyed it :)

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

BME_Buckeye's picture

That pep talk was exactly what I needed to hear today to motivate me for my interview this monday. Thank you! 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Elika's picture

Good luck on Monday!

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

penult's picture

The post also points out the low number of Wolverines that have been invited to the combine in recent years (six in the last three years, compared to Ohio State's 20), but mentions that the jump from Rich Rodriguez to Brady Hoke, and the effect it has had on recruiting, should tun that around in upcoming years. 

When will people realize that what Carr did to Rodriguez was worse than what Emmert was able to effect on O'Brien?

Tomc383's picture

To the point of the first few comments: I have maintained that in order to avoid future potential issues similar to our very own 'Tattoo-gate', why not have a given University physically hold onto B1G Championship Rings, Gold Pants, game-worn equipment, etc until after an athlete has completed their relationship with said school either through graduation or early separation via draft?   Based upon current NCAA regulations (what's the most ridiculous form of the word ridiculous?) that 'impound' process would remove the potential or enticement for an athlete to do what they wish with something that is legally theirs to begin with!  With regard to intellectual property, namely a Minnesota Wrestler's music, it's virtually impossible to physical impound if you will and makes for a much more delicate scenario.  Mark Emmert's recent lack of institutional control in his own House-of-Holier-than-Thou only throws gasoline onto the ground swell of whispers that larger conferences may some day secede from the NCAA and form their own self-governing body.

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harleymanjax's picture

Although it's not exactly my kind of music, I would like to be able to support that Minn wrestler since we share the same uncommon last name!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"