Men's Basketball Open Thread: Wisconsin

By 11W Staff on February 17, 2013 at 12:30p
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thatlillefty's picture

Hope our boys are ready. This is going to be a tough one.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Agreed, they need a fast, hot start.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BuckeyeChief's picture

To be clear, they meant the Buckeyes.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

AngryWoody's picture

Wow, whoever photoshopped that I just want to say bravo.

Our Honor Defend!

BuckeyeUro's picture

This is going to be a dog fight, I hope at least!

BME_Buckeye's picture

Maybe this was the 11W staff reminding us to watch the walking dead later on today with the photo. Thanks for the reminder because I forgot to set the DVR. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

thatlillefty's picture

per twitter reports, wisconsin football players are at the arena in various famer customes (Melvin Gordon is dressed up as a cow)... speculation is there will be a Harlem Shake going down at the Kohl Center.

otrain2416's picture

I feel like every conference game in the BIG is like watching a round of the NCAA tourny

AngryWoody's picture

OSU is gonna win by six. OSU 6 Wisky 0.

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BME_Buckeye's picture

I don't think we are playing hockey or baseball today. 

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Urban Ohio's picture

What is with these ugly unis?

Newcomerstown Trojans between Woody and Beaver.

xFactor11's picture

They are the new "logo" unis. Thought we were only wearing them for the TSUN game but apparently not. Here's more info on it: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/buckshot/2013/01/alternate-uniforms-are-coming-to-basketball

Urban Ohio's picture

Look like generic walmart crap. No names. Just says Buckeyes on the back. Look like chit play like it.

Newcomerstown Trojans between Woody and Beaver.

Kevbo714's picture

Excited to not be working so I can actually sit back and enjoy the game in my recliner.  My second job is bartending, and while I am not complaining, I usually work during the games so I don't get to contribute to these threads.  Go Bucks!

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thatlillefty's picture

looked good early, but Wiksy is taking momentum w/ those 2 three's and now the and-one

WolverineKiller's picture

Has Wisky missed a shot!?

Just Win.

BuckeyeUro's picture

Why is DT taking these tough shot??? It's just frustrating!!!

bgohio22's picture

Early thoughts:
1. Confident Buckeyes can get to the lane on offense.  No need to jack up a ton of threes.
2. Still can't believe Amir refuses to block out.  He provides nothing on offense.  Sigh.
3. Not looking good but a run like this from Wisky was expected at some point.  No need to freak out. 

Kevbo714's picture

It is definitely still early.  I agree with your thoughts... Especially on Amir.  Sigh.

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frozen buckeye's picture

Has Amir improved?  I haven't noticed and most of my game agony seems to be Amir -based.  

xFactor11's picture

I like to just appreciate him for the chance of offensive rebounding he gives us. Other than that, I don't expect much which helps me not blow a gasket.

Kevbo714's picture

Reel in their lead, fellas

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Kevbo714's picture

"... Everything but the finish..." - CBS announcer

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BuckeyeChief's picture

Ravenel's post game is about as awesome as mine, and I am 6'2" and about 20 lbs overweight.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Knarcisi's picture

He is twice as good as Amir. That's whats sad. 

RedQueenRace's picture

Amir is no better.
I can understand needing development but I can't understand being a McD AA and still being so raw.

WolverineKiller's picture

There is no passion to rebound on this team, remember when Sully used to ball hawk and squeeze the orange?  No one has a pssion to do so on this team.  BTW we've missed our last 10 shots, time to panic.

Just Win.

Knarcisi's picture

Where's Amir Williams and all that development I keep hearing about?  No development needed to hustle and rebound. It's about desire. 

Kevbo714's picture

So posing an inquiry to the populace... What are the chances that the Bucks return all non-grads next year?

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WolverineKiller's picture

0 - DT is gone.

Just Win.

Kevbo714's picture

I agree...

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BROSEPH's picture

75% chance DT is gone.
33% chance LQ is gone.  
<15% chance for everyone else.  
 
Source: I have no idea what I'm talking about.  

Kevbo714's picture

All options which is usually welcomed here at 11w... I respect your input and express gratitude

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skid21's picture

This is getting ugly fast.

thatlillefty's picture

We need to settle down and regroup now, or this game will be a blowout.

BuckeyeChief's picture

A prevailing thought I've had, is that this is just a team in transition, after losing Sully, you know? My question is who's next?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Kevbo714's picture

Wow scary thought...

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I've seen the "young team" excuse in here a few times, which is sort of a default comeback when any college team is struggling, but I wonder: out of all the teams in the top 25, how many don't have a freshman or sophomore among their 3 leading scorers? (I know Wisconsin is one, but they have a system that works for them too.)
The apparent failure of the 2011 class is really going to bite next year, when we're talking NIT in mid-February.

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BROSEPH's picture

I think this team would be damn good if DT would return.  Even if he doesn't, they will still be very solid.  If Sam Thompson can develop a jumper and work on his dribble drive he could easily be a star.  Scott is going to be very good, already a premier defender in the nation and smart, just needs some scoring attitude.  I feel Amir is about to breakout.  Smith can be a David Lighty type all around solid player.  Ross can be lethal.  
you have to realize this team is made up of mostly sophmores and juniors.  

mitchjacobsen01's picture

Another slow start.  Very frustrating to watch.  Wisconsin is getting a lot of good looks.

ILbuckeyes's picture

with all their good looks we should be down more 

RedQueenRace's picture

Terrible on both offense and defense.
They are simply lucky some of those 3s aren't falling or it would be a 25 point deficit already.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Down by almost 16 to this team, we're done for. Just look at what they did to Illinois when the lead was that big. I'm throwing in the towel and I'm gonna start drinking. 

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buckeyenut10's picture

I would be interested in how our team plays when Amir is in vs Ravenel. It seems (to me) that over the last couple of games Amir seems to give this team more confidence. Ravenel comes in and I feel like the other team makes runs. Not saying that Ravenel is to blame or anything, but I feel like we play much better with Amir on the floor.

Buckeyejason's picture

Man this game is a stinker. This team just isn't very good at one thing..too many limited scorers which will ultimately be their demise.

BUCKEYES BABY!

3cent's picture

This team sucks and only has one good win all season and nearly blew that one against Michigan. All other wins were against bad teams. I am surprised they are not onsidered on the bubble and as they seem to be clearly in. 

Knarcisi's picture

Be careful. People on here think we're a good team and get offended when someone calls us average. 

ILbuckeyes's picture

They arent on the bubble because they dont have any bad losses outside of Illinois.  Every other game we lost we were the underdogs

Knarcisi's picture

I didn't say we are on the bubble. We will make the tourney comfortable, as an average  team and an early out. 

cal3713's picture

Have we won when playing on CBS this year?

3cent's picture

Michigan but almost blew it

BME_Buckeye's picture

Michigan 53
Ohio State 56

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WolverineKiller's picture

Have we won this year when the game has been televised on CBS?  This is embarrassing...

Just Win.

RedQueenRace's picture

Yeah, Q is just the guy to try to pull off a behind the back dribble move.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

OSU will come back to win this game...predicting something like OSU 65 UW 60

ILbuckeyes's picture

with what offense?

WolverineKiller's picture

I like the positive thinking.  I just don't think this team has the firepower to come back from a 20 point deficit, especially against Wisky.

Just Win.

ILbuckeyes's picture

But the last 3 games have been embarrassing... Something needs to change quick

RedQueenRace's picture

So, any ideas on what has happened to the D lately?  That was the one thing most felt could keep this team in any game and it has disappeared.

BuckeyeChief's picture

only 4 three's? It seems like more...

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Kevbo714's picture

My bad, folks... I may be the jinx.  First tOSU bball game to watch outside of work.  Blame it on me, so far, lol

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ILbuckeyes's picture

perfromance hasnt changed the last three games, not your fault
 

Bucksfan's picture

From under what bridge did Wisconsin find these goons?

73buckeye's picture

I lived there for thirty years. The state is full of bridges, and I think there is at least one under each of them.

ernie

BuckeyeChief's picture

That tied for fewest haircuts is funny, I don't care who you are.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Tim's picture

Of course Brusewitz is self-deprecating, he's an ugly ginger.

WolverineKiller's picture

Does anyone else feel like Sam Thompson should look for his shot just a FEW more times a game? 

Just Win.

Knarcisi's picture

I think he should dribble, drive. And that's it. Same with Lenzelle. 

Knarcisi's picture

At a least McDonald was aggressive. 

Danify's picture

Name me a team in the top 25 ... Ohio State could be beat?

ILbuckeyes's picture

Neutral court, playing like they did against Michigan, anyone.  Neutral court, playing like they are today, no one

BROSEPH's picture

On a neutral court?  Every single team.  This team had Duke on the ropes at Cameron Indoor. I've seen every team in the top 25 play at least once this year and every single one of them has flaws.  There are very few elite teams this season.  Expect to see an interesting March with a lot of upsets.  
 

RedQueenRace's picture

This is not the same team that played Duke early in the season.  Duke would beat the team of the past 3 games by 20.

BuckeyeChief's picture

11w live blogging > this game.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

WolverineKiller's picture

Remember when Craft used to drive to the bucket at will?  Why did that change?

Just Win.

ILbuckeyes's picture

They arent letting him.  Thye know he cant shoot well so they are forcing him into shots instead of making him drive

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

BS call on McDonald going over the back. Let 'em play. Enough of that ticky-tack officiating

Knarcisi's picture

Valentine needed some air time. 

buckeyenut10's picture

We haven't had any calls go our way this game. It happens.

3cent's picture

This team's offense remind me of the football  team's two years ago. 

WolverineKiller's picture

At least McDonald looks like he's trying.  Amir appears too passive and Ravanel needs a Waaaa-mbulence. 

Just Win.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

McDonald (1-1) and Smith (2-4) only players making half their shots.

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Bucksfan's picture

Whenever Ohio State goes to Wisconsin, suddenly every trollish-looking white boy in a Badger uniform becomes Ray Allen for a day.

Knarcisi's picture

No shit. They are shotting out their ass to add to the misery. Hate these guys. 

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

We are not the 13th best team in the country. Just not good @ putting ball in basket.

Buckeyejason's picture

Come on fellas lets go on a nice run to end the half

BUCKEYES BABY!

BuckeyeChief's picture

What does Della Valle do?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

ILbuckeyes's picture

Make 3s, warm bench, interact with fans

Kevbo714's picture

...grow spiral curls?

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BuckeyeChief's picture

Do you have proof of this so called "Make 3's" thing?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

ILbuckeyes's picture

i think i saw it in warmups one time... Maybe we should just say, "shoots 3s?"

Ohio1St81's picture

In games like this I try to appreciate the small victories. Every good rebound or good shot selction is a learning experience for March. Also that is not a foul. 

3cent's picture

I just looked at the remaining schedule and I can see this team being a bubble team by selection Sunday 

Knarcisi's picture

How does that pass get thru?  Get real. 

Buckeyejason's picture

I hate to quote that tool/deuche bag/waste of life Colin Cowherd but...no one wants to work on hitting jump shots anymore. Everyone wants to have a crossover and dunk. 
WORK ON YOUR SHOOTING!!!!!

BUCKEYES BABY!

captain obvious's picture

the refereeing is almost as bad as our shooting %

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Tim's picture

I wish the ginger would hurt itself while flopping.

3cent's picture

Don't craft and Scott miss the most lay ups you ever seen

RedQueenRace's picture

On the verge of giving up 40 in half to Wisconsin.

3cent's picture

Good point. We know the offense sucks, but they also stunk on defense this game

Knarcisi's picture

Craft didn't draw any foul on those last 2 drives?

kr66osu's picture

This team is really becoming pathetic to watch
They are going to become a bubble team if they aren't careful

Bucksfan's picture

I can't help but watch these Wisconsin games and laugh.  They're so preposterous.

thatlillefty's picture

what an awful first half... i hope Matta goes ballistic in that locker room because we are better than this.

3cent's picture

Actually they aren't. I hav watched every game his year and this is exactly who they are.

OSUkid23's picture

Then you didn't watch either of the Michigan games.

Knarcisi's picture

Michigan is a street ball team. Good matchup for us. Any team that makes us play half court and have a perimeter game gives us a lot of problems. 

3cent's picture

I did and they sucked  in both of those games too. Almost blew it in the first game and stunk it up in OT in the second

OSUkid23's picture

This game is not demonstrating exactly who we are. In the Michigan games, we shot pretty damn well. If they had done this in the first half, we would be very well in this game.

thatlillefty's picture

I've watched every game too. We are better than this.

WolverineKiller's picture

I hope Matta goes bonkers as well.  With that being said, this team just isn't at the same level we've been used to over the past 5 years. 
I just wish this team would show me they care, show me some PASSION, show me you CARE, and that you HATE to lose.

Just Win.

81Alum's picture

Agree, where's the Passion?? Only Craft, Thomas, and Smith appear to be trying, the rest are along for the ride!

BuckeyeChief's picture

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Officiating isn't the reason we're getting killed, and our passive offense doesn't provoke many foul calls anyway...but for a B1G team to have 2 fouls against them in one half is pretty damn amazing.

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Knarcisi's picture

Team is regressing, not improving. Say and think what you want about Thad, but that's solely on him. 

ILbuckeyes's picture

The sad thing is they were progressing pretty well up until the Indiana game.  Since then this team seems to have taken a giant step backwards

Clmm297's picture

Why is it solely on him?

petebuc52's picture

Agreed @Knarcisi... I know it's always hard to win at Wisky but that was downright horrible...
 

3cent's picture

Craft sucks. I never been a fan. His first two years I thought he sucked but we had so many scorers that people  looked past his deficiencies on offense. 

ILbuckeyes's picture

Without Craft we are significantly worse.  He may be deficient on scoring but he does many great things for this team

Knarcisi's picture

He doesn't suck. Come on. He is who he is. It's not his responsibility to be a scorer. It is Matta's responsibility to understand that and to recruit a develop players that can. He brings in another point guard in Scott that is exactly the same!

Clmm297's picture

I saw Craft play in high school.  He was his teams leading scorer and put up 47 in the game I saw.  All of these guys were scorers in high school.  

Knarcisi's picture

Different level of competition. 

3cent's picture

Craft is the main reason they lost at Michigan. He took the last three shots, all misses. He sure acted like it was his responsibility to score, and unfortunately it sucked

Knarcisi's picture

You are making my point. Yes, he feels it is his role because there are no other options. Putting Craftbin a position to be a primary scorer is notnhisnfailure, but Matta's. 

3cent's picture

No one was putting him in position to be a primary scorer in that game. It seemed like he wa lost out there hoping to make a basket.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Let's not forget about the 2 no calls on the last 2.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

OSUkid23's picture

This is why you shouldn't be making observations about this team.

BME_Buckeye's picture

I'm currently in Columbus at the moment, can anyone recommend a place I can get food at after the game that's close to the High and Hudson area? I'm riding with a friend to get more liquor to drink away this shit show I'm watching. 

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bgohio22's picture

4th Street: http://www.fourthstreetbarcolumbus.com/
Pub food.  Nice beer selection.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! 
I know where I'm going. Thanks! Swung you an upvote. 

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bgohio22's picture

Thanks for the upvote!  Enjoy the beer and the upcoming Buckeye comeback.

cal3713's picture

The Blue Danube
2439 N High St  Columbus, OH 43202
(614) 261-9308
A good post game spot...

BME_Buckeye's picture

I've ate there before maybe about 4 years ago with some roommates. Made a mistake and ask for two burgers with several topings on them and thought it was 50 cent for all the topics when instead I got charged 50 cent per toppings. Four dollar burgers resulted in ten dollar bill. 

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BuckeyeChief's picture

I'd definitely be able to tell you if it was 1996. Haven't been back since '07.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

bgohio22's picture

I accept the Buckeyes can't score.  But where did the suffocating defense go?  Wouldn't it be in the best interests of an offensively challenged team to press a lot more than the Buckeyes?  Couldn't that be a way to pick up some easy buckets? Athleticism is all this team has.  And Thomas.  Thought they'd be a 10 loss team and nothing has changed my mind.  

GrayDay's picture

Someone besides Craft and Smith need to play tough and smart defense.  Not always bad effort, but lots of team defensive breakdowns.  As for offense, nothing looks promising after DT exits for the NBA.

73buckeye's picture

Agree. The Buckeyes have better athletes. Wisconsin has better basketball players. The Bucks can win if they make it an athletic contest, not a three point shooting contest. Full court pressure and tough, stifling defense is the only way this team can be successful, especially without a second scorer. Offense comes and goes, but fefense is always there with hustle and effort. If they keep trying to play a half court game against Wisconsin, they are toast.

ernie

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Why not try ADV in there? Can't hurt at this point. Maybe he'll hit a few 3-balls to swing momentum.

bgohio22's picture

Yes.  Thought about this at about 10:00.  Bench everybody.  Force the starters to watch the blowout.  Not Thad's style to show up the team, though.  

BuckeyeChief's picture

I'd do it, make them think about things.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BSTP DeCon's picture

I know we were predicted to lose this game and basically every other away game we have left, but I can't even see how we are ranked anymore...We have only beaten 1 ranked team and lost all of the others. I will be happy if we even get a 4th seed if we even make it to March.

dbit's picture

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Q and Amadeo out there to throw up some 3's

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Yea...what the hey...change it up at least

tampa buckeye's picture

Yes 1000's times with Amadeo he is getting no love from matta.

ILbuckeyes's picture

3cent is the epitome of pessimism 

3cent's picture

Why? Because I am pointing out that this average team has lost every single game this year versus a ranked team, except for one which they nearly blew. The only thing working for them is they beat every team they should beat. And that has been a challenge lately as the NW game proved. They were at home playing against a depleted NW team an still stunk. 
 

tampa buckeye's picture

new starting five Mcdonald, Craft, Ross, Thomas, smith.  You can't have a bunch of guards that can't shoot 3's on the floor at the same time matta!!!

WolverineKiller's picture

HUGE!!!! TY Sam!!!!

Just Win.

Tim's picture

Yessir, and-1 and the flagrant on the dirty ginger!

Knarcisi's picture

Ae you serious that carrot top ismcomplaining about that call?

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Ohhhhh your media darling took a STUPID intentional foul, CBS!
Defend that ginger move, Raftery!

WolverineKiller's picture

What if....Thompson worked with Micky Marotti.  Just sayin.

Just Win.

frozen buckeye's picture

Maybe it's the Moscow mule pints I downed during the half but I say we are going to witness a comeback.  

ILbuckeyes's picture

Aaron gets bodied like that every time he takes a layup

Knarcisi's picture

Bullshit Amir. Get him off the floor. Lazy and soft. 

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

*** one bright spot: McDonald. Love his play out there today. Williams needs to take note of his aggressiveness.

Knarcisi's picture

+100 if I could. 

bgohio22's picture

Why is Amir turning his back to the basket?  Again. 

Jugdish's picture

Amir is a clutz

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RedStorm45's picture

Wisconsin travels every possession.  But we suck.

Jugdish's picture

Big man and a shooting guard from a decent team.

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KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

I like Tim Brando. He appears to be very fair to OSU.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Just not during football season.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

jaxbuckeye's picture

Another joke of a performance.  Just ONCE I'd like to say, "Wow, Matta did a great job today..."

RedStorm45's picture

Kitts is one of the best?? Lol

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Valentine fraternizing with the UW bench. F him.

ILbuckeyes's picture

i dont understand why Sam doesnt try for shots more!!! If he misses once he wont shoot again

Jugdish's picture

Exactly, they all have a fear of missing except DT.

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WolverineKiller's picture

Bump. I think he is starting to blossom, his jump shot is starting to look better and better.  If he could take the 4 forced shots DT has per game the team could be in a better place.

Just Win.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Is this Wisky of Nova, 1985?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Knarcisi's picture

Come on. Play D and make a push on these assholes!  They cant shoot like this all day. 

UrbanCulture's picture

it seriously looks like we never work on dribble driving in practice ... which may actually be the case

RedStorm45's picture

Wisconsin has hit 5 threes, we've hit none.  Difference right now.

Tim's picture

If we could finish at the rim or catch the ball, we'd have at least 10 more points.

ILbuckeyes's picture

Everytime we start to make a run, they answer. Its annoying

Bucksfan's picture

Wisconsin goat herders still knocking down shots that don't even work in anyone's own backyard.  Jump spin, double teamed, yet shot still goes down.

Jdadams01's picture

Take a charge Amir.

bgohio22's picture

Amir, MOVE YOUR FEET.

Knarcisi's picture

Foul out Amir. Please!

Jugdish's picture

El Clutzo

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UrbanCulture's picture

poor communication cost amir his 4th foul

Knarcisi's picture

No. His poor footwork and lazy ass did. 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Still need a lot of work on D to get back in this one. If the Badgers had one of their vintage 20-point halves, that might do it.

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frozen buckeye's picture

Amir is killing me.  

ILbuckeyes's picture

Where is the Amir from Michigan?

UrbanCulture's picture

jesus catch the ball

Jdadams01's picture

Might as well leave Amir out there and let him foul out.

Tim's picture

Our big men have the worst hands, grab the damn ball.

WolverineKiller's picture

Williams sulks to the bench.  GET MAD!!!

Just Win.

UrbanCulture's picture

just once i would like to see something like that happen for us

ILbuckeyes's picture

Andddd thats the tyoe of day it is

BuckeyeChief's picture

Nice dunk Rav!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

UrbanCulture's picture

brust is a terrible flopper trolol

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

We have zero inside game, essentially.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

"Watching" this on Gamecast. This says it all: 
13:58 - 2nd
OSU - Evan Ravenel missed Dunk.
Ha!

WB

buckeyenut10's picture

How does Ravenel have a D1 scholarship?

Jdadams01's picture

Ohio State seems to accept their offensive futility at this point.

BuckeyeChief's picture

I can't shoot, can't score, can't defend, can't rebound; in other words, I could play on this team.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

WolverineKiller's picture

Don't forget about a lack of EFFORT

Just Win.

Jugdish's picture

What does it take to be a McDonalds All American? 

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3cent's picture

Will this loss finally knock them ou of the top 25

ILbuckeyes's picture

To the 20th ranked team, on the road.... no

Danify's picture

Take off your Scarlet colored glasses ... this team isn't a top 25 team ... hell I wouldnt even put them in the top 30.

UrbanCulture's picture

its so puzzling to me how our defense just has no one within 10 feet of their shooters

Knarcisi's picture

Get used to it boys. Wait til Thomas leaves next year. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Maybe being humiliated will finally light a fire. But that looks like a hopeless cause with this bunch. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

WolverineKiller's picture

It didn't help after the IU game.

Just Win.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Ted Valentine is the worst official of the past two decades. Hands down.

Knarcisi's picture

Hot dog Teddy. 

WolverineKiller's picture

Dissapointment is turning into rage real quick. 

Just Win.

Jack Fu's picture

Without Deshaun this team would be scratching and clawing to get into the NIT. That's terrifying for next year.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

Also, this:

40 J. Berggren 5/7
1 B. Brust 4/6
5 R. Evans 3/5
31 M. Bruesewitz 3/6
12 T. Jackson 4/7
 
Worst .pct is 50%

WB

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Jackson is a better player than any of our sophomores, sad to say. 

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RedQueenRace's picture

Remember when last year Sullinger said to watch out for Amir?
I understand what he meant now.

Jack Fu's picture

So it was a warning to us rather than to opponents? Makes a lot more sense that way.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

2 FUCKING weekends in a row I've shut a buckeye game off early.....what...the hell am I watching? Are we just that fucking awful at developing our talent? We have NO ONE decent enough to play inside.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

UrbanCulture's picture

Thad, the game is lost. Time to send a message.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Traevon Jackson talks a lot of $hit for a dude with just 8 points in a game, (3 of which were a bank prayer)

BuckeyeChief's picture

If your favorite team, who your dad is a legend for, didn't even talk to you about a scholly, you'd do the same.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Yes, I would...but I'd wait till I at least hit double-digits!

BuckeyeChief's picture

I remember getting into a twitter war with JJ about it, he asked me how I knew who offered him.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BuckeyeChief's picture

+1 for the downvote, thanks!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Knarcisi's picture

Shut up Valentine you fucking hot dog. 

3cent's picture

I don't see any sure wins left on he schedule. I would say NW but after Wednesday I dont even know about that one.

bgohio22's picture

What got this team back on track after the Illinois debacle?  Defense and getting production from Scott, Ross, and Smith.  Craft is an offensive liability, a great defender, and a decent rebounder for a guard.  To expect him, Thomas, or Rav to be anything other than what they've been is impossible.  The success or failure of the Buckeyes will be on Scott, LQ, and Amir. 

3cent's picture

What got them back on track was Purdue, Iowa, penn state, and Nebraska 

bgohio22's picture

Good point, 3Cent.  Bucks are the best of the mediocre. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Somewhere, Don Jantonio is pissed!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

bgohio22's picture

Nice!! Didn't he hit a 3 to beat somebody in a Big Ten game?

ILbuckeyes's picture

We need scoring... Lets play Ross 4 minutes- Thad Matta

UrbanCulture's picture

Our whole defense is prone to back cuts..which causes them to not close out that aggressively on 3 point shooters.

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

It amazes me that this team is even still ranked. I said a couple weeks ago we were playing for a first round bye in the big ten tourney. This team simply isn't good now and isn't going to be in March. We are a six seed in both the conference and NCAA tourney. If we run in to another Utah state type team in round one then our goose is cooked in the big dance. 
God help us next year if Q transfers cause unless these kids improve in yr 3 more than any other team in o state history, Thad's streak of 20 win seasons will come to an end cause we simply aren't good. 

Knarcisi's picture

McDonald needs to start at C!  Period. 

ILbuckeyes's picture

Also why tf doesnt McDonald play more? He has been the most productive big man i have seen for OSU this year

Knarcisi's picture

+100. I swear Thad play favorites. 

Tim's picture

Kaminsky is the most Wisconsin-looking player ever.

RedStorm45's picture

All the subs plus Thomas, Thad sending a message

WolverineKiller's picture

Thomas will stay in there until he gets his 20. 

Just Win.

Bucksfan's picture

57% to 37% from the floor.  There's your statline.

WolverineKiller's picture

I hope we get knocked out of the top 25, so expectations can be realistic.  I think we're there purely based upon how much the media loves Thomas and Craft.  But this is a team sport.

Just Win.

Bucksfan's picture

10 guys below the hoop, shortest badger #1 comes up with it.  Down the other way, he's covered by 3 guys, and same guy makes a layup.

osubuckeye4life's picture

This is not the same team that played that epic against TTUN. 

Knarcisi's picture

Again, scUM plays street ball. Good matchup for us. Can't play when forced to go half court. 

BME_Buckeye's picture

I recommend you watch Minnesota vs. Iowa. That game is a lot better. Also, if you wanna see the Badgers lose today, you can tune in to watch my Gophers sweep that ass in hockey at Solider Field on BTN at 5. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

Traevon Jackson and Trey Burke.....I believe our coaching staff missed the boat on those two. Oh wait, we have Scott who can dribble and Thompson who can jump. Sure wish they could both shoot

ILbuckeyes's picture

Thompson is steadily improving. Hes only a sophomore. Give him a chance

tampa buckeye's picture

The thing about Thompson is he can not dribble if he could drive he'd be tough to guard.

RedStorm45's picture

So you want 4 point guards?

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

Nope. I simply want some people who can SHOOT. I don't think that's too much to ask. Last I checked Thompson Scott Jackson and Burke were all Sophs. I would take Jackson and Burke over Scott and Thompson any day of the week. 

RedStorm45's picture

We suck and are getting worse

BuckeyeChief's picture

ADV!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

frozen buckeye's picture

The sky is not falling.  Wait until B1G tourney. 

Knarcisi's picture

Why?  So Illinois can abuse us again?  So Minnesota or NW can beat us?

Jack Fu's picture

He's not being an ass. It's a reasonable point.

tampa buckeye's picture

No question he should start.  He is the only shooter on the team outside of Thomas. Ross looks like a little bitch 

Jack Fu's picture

The dude made one shot. Summer Donna [/old SNL reference]. I wish we had more good offensive players as much as the rest of us, but ... come on. One shot. And he's given up multiple scores to Ben Brust. Let's temper the irrational exuberance a tad.

tampa buckeye's picture

He plays hard, can create offense for other players.  He can shoot lights out.  He had a three taken away for a moving screen.  
Bottom line is Thad Matta sucks as a coach and plays favorites.  Wisconsin plays guys that play hard.  No a bunch of Soft kids like Amir.  Name one player outside of Evan Turner that has improved under thad?  

Killer nuts's picture

This is absurd. A guy doesn't suck as a coach and win like Thad wins. Plenty of players improve under Thad. You honestly think Deshaun isn't better now than he was as a freshman?

Bucks43201's picture

Love the energy from ADV! That kid needs more important minutes.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

WolverineKiller's picture

ADV, Thompson, & McDonald have been the highlights for me.  A glimer of hope for the future.

Just Win.

tampa buckeye's picture

How is 33 not playing for Ohio State?

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Not to say our effort has been weak or anything, but Ben Brust, who is shorter than Craft,  is the leading rebounder in this game. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Knarcisi's picture

Our effort has sucked. Got out worked and outhustled all day. 

Jack Fu's picture

Allowing backdoor dunks: just one more reason you're playing with fire if you give Ross more minutes...

RedStorm45's picture

Free throws...what else is new

Bucksfan's picture

Switching over to the golf.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Two missed layups the last 2 times down the court. Nice to see the bench energizing things!

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RedStorm45's picture

So maybe they should practice layups...

theobi's picture

The saddest part about this is I don't see this team being any better next year. Probably considerably worse, unless we get a giant turnaround from Thompson, Scott and Q

DLJad's picture

Don't look now, but they just spat upon the whole OSU team.

WolverineKiller's picture

I think we're going to have to Get Used to It.

Just Win.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Some good news: with their next foul, the Badgers will put us in the bonus!...oh, what's that you say? They've committed 6 fouls in the whole GAME, not this half? What the hell?

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

AltaBuck's picture

Ross sucks on D. Gets burnt backdoor and then doesn't switch or hedge on a pick and the D gives up a layup. WTF

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RedStorm45's picture

Can't wait for that trip to Bloomington...

WolverineKiller's picture

Hasn't Wisy played back to back to back OT games? Why do they play with more energy than we do?

Just Win.

RedStorm45's picture

Q sucks.  All those clamoring for him to start, see:today.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Thanks "coach", but think saying he sucks is a little harsh.

RedStorm45's picture

1/7...so yeah.  And do you call all those saying he should start "coach"

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

No. You're not getting it REDSTORM. I'm referring to you saying he "sucks ". I didn't say anything about him starting, but you are a fool if you really think he sucks. Everyone has an off game. Don't be so quick to judge. From OSU, Ross will be the best NBA player in a few years.

RedStorm45's picture

He's had a lot of "off" games.  I guess only coaches are allowed to have opinions on players, my bad.

Jack Fu's picture

HOLY SHIT SCOTT MADE A 3. I'm gonna start stockpiling bottled water and canned goods.

BuckeyeChief's picture

The reason I stopped playing pickup ball: I would've punched #5 for that one.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

We can only improve, right?
No place to go but up

BuckeyeChief's picture

GD these guys can't buy a bucket.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BuckeyeChief's picture

They can't, sorry.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

UrbanWoodrowEarlTressel's picture

it's the "GD" part I object to, esp. on a Sunday

BuckeyeChief's picture

Down votes for use of my language on a Sunday? Sweet.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Interesting comment by Brando about the "Matta coaching tree"...our current staff might be something that needs to be looked at. There's definitely reason to believe the new guys aren't nearly as effective as the ones who have moved on.

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81Alum's picture

Haven't seen the Bucks look this bad in a long time!

GrayDay's picture

Do we have anyone coming in next year who can shoot or actually play center?  Do we have anyone coming in at all?

D. Anthony's picture

How do you even get down by 20 so early to Wiscy, like we did today? they play slow tempo and try to keep the game in the 50's...I'm at work and haven't seen anything but updates on the score, WTF?
 

D. Anthony

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

We missed about every shot we took in the first half.

tampa buckeye's picture

Wisconsin has kids that shoot,  Ohio State doesn't .  I'm not sure what Thad is doing but he is really missing something.  
The Italian kid should be starting for Ohio State period!
 Amir should not see the floor for Ohio State ever again.  He plays about as soft as I've ever seen for a 6'10 guy.  He either needs to red shirt or transfer.  I wonder if he smokes weed before every game.
Smith Jr. has completely disappeared vs. any good team in the big ten this year.
Craft has a terrible shooting form but you can't bench him because his defense is still the best in the country.
Thomas I just feel sorry for this guy because he gets no help.
Mcdonald plays hard but he doesn't have the size to dominate.  wish we could give Amir half of his toughness.
#3 is just as bad a shooter as craft. 
Bottom line when all your guards have no outside shot its laughable.  #33 should start it gives them a player that can shoot outside and take some pressure off of Thomas.

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

I called Williams a creme puff last week and got yelled at on this board for being to harsh.     It's not hard to dominate in high school when you are gigantic and have an albatross wingspan. Major D1 hoops is very very different. Rebounding is about desire and right now Amir doesn't have it. 

Knarcisi's picture

I was with ya. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Maybe we can get to 50 here.

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

mike78's picture

If this team doesn't make some serious improvements I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even make the NCAA tournament .  If they continue to play like this, they will lose out.  Matta needs to make a big change somewere.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

The free throw shooting has been unbelievably bad, among all the other reasons this game needs to be flushed down the memory hole.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

PhillyBuckeye27's picture

Matta's teams have never been good at free throws. We have just been able to mask it better most yrs compared to this season. 

RedStorm45's picture

Amir, 0 points, 0 rebounds...4 fouls.

RedQueenRace's picture

Well, that was fun.  Let's do this again some time.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

Didn't scUM just lose to MSU by like 30? Let's chillax. We beat scUM at home, got robbed at scUM, and took Duke to the final seconds. The same roster is still there...anything's possible.

dbit's picture

thank you for your optimism!  I agree with you completely.

RedQueenRace's picture

It is the same players.  But it is not the same team.

Bucks43201's picture

I agree with Kate's comment.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

UrbanCulture's picture

We were freaking out about last years team around this time. Lets see if they come out and play in the B1G Tourney ...