Friday Skull Session

By Elika on February 1, 2013 at 6:00a
119 Comments

Mornin' Sunshine!

Am I the only one that feels like the entire world is in New Orleans but me? I'm a bit jealous of everyone who's going to the game and the parties, sure; but I'm being severely taunted by the thoughts of all the amazing food everyone's consuming in the Big Easy without me.

Flashbacks to my own food endeavors in New Orleans for the Sugar-Bowl-that-never-was combined with all the Instagrams and TwitPics from everyone in NOLA this week are really making me understand why some people hate #foodporn so much. A thousand pardons from me to you, if I ever made you feel this way.

And now, moving on...

FIVE DAYS TO GO. I could tell you all an electrifying story of how a man named Justin Zwick proved to be the last straw for me in 2004, and I no longer followed recruiting as if I was going to be taking a midterm on who committed where. Or, I could just give you yet another, gentle reminder that our very own Alex, Derek and Miles are pretty amazing at keeping us all up to speed on Urban's latest targets so that the rest of can, you know, live our lives.

With five days to go until National Signing Day, Alex reported yesterday that WR Darren Carrington has canceled his visit to Ohio State this weekend. Carrington is a four-star recruit out of San Diego, and is currently pledged to Oregon. Alex speculated that a scholarship was no longer in the cards for Carrington once the Buckeyes landed Corey Smith. Despite the fact that I started this topic off by killing any modicum of recruiting credibility I may have had, I can actually confirm this one myself, as a very reliable source told me Wednesday morning that WR coach Zach Smith was on his way to the airport to visit a recruit at Horizon in San Diego, until he got a call that Meyer was no longer interested in the WR Smith was scheduled to visit.

College of DuPage OL Matt Finnin (Nebraska commit), who Alex reported yesterday had been offered by the Buckeyes, has decided to stick with his commitment to the Huskers. 

Ezekiel Elliott, an Ohio State commit since April 2012, surprised many of us by visiting Missouri recently and now the sharks are circling. Florida State offered the running back yesterday and reports surfaced that Alabama may have offered as well.

Lastly, five-star safety Von Bell, got a visit from Everett Withers last night. Withers was the last coach able to get a word in with Bell before he shut down his recruitment. Bell will be making his final decision this weekend. His final three are Ohio State, Alabama, and Tennessee. 

TIMEOUT. What better way to get a Buckeye's day off to a great start, than to tell a little story of a Wolverine getting called out? It appears the non-existent timeout calling, well-done meat eating, A1 requesting, Wolverine's game-calling on Thursday night, of the Mavericks' loss to the Warriors, wasn't exactly up to par for Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban. When Cuban saw a tweet regarding Webber as a TV analyst, the following ensued: 

Also, just because, this is pretty funny

Columbus DispatchIt'll cost you a pretty penny.

I AIN'T SAYIN' SHE A GOLD DIGGER. Kyle reported earlier last week that Ohio State was considering football ticket price hikes for future seasons.

If approved, the rate hike, the first in three years, would start for the upcoming 2013-14 academic year. Ohio State will raise public ticket prices $9, from $70 to $79. Faculty and staff prices will increase from $56 to $64. Student tickets will go up $2 in 2013 and another $2 in 2014. Students paid $32 per game in 2012.

According to Doug Lesmerises of the Plain Dealer, the finance committee met yesterday with Gene Smith, and fully supported the plan to increase ticket prices for standard games, and introduce premium game pricing for up to two games per season. 

The Ohio State Board of Trustees is scheduled to vote on this later today, and is expected to approve it. 

 NFL PLAYER SAFETY. I had an opportunity to listen to DeMaurice Smith speak at a media event before the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl not too long ago, and despite all the extra attention that has been paid recently to football player safety, it was still an incredibly eye-opening experience.

Smith used an opportunity at a Super Bowl news conference yesterday to publicize some of his complaints with the NFL regarding player safety issues. Most importantly, Smith wants a system that verifies the medical credentials of all medical personnel on teams, and for the league to create a Chief Safety Officer position to look out for the well being of the players. Smith also referred to the referee lockout earlier this season as an example of disregard for player safety in the league. 

Domonique Foxworth, the union president, also voiced his complaints:

"The league, their No. 1 focus -- at least they say their No. 1 focus -- is health and safety. And we say our No. 1 focus is health and safety," Foxworth said. "How come we have such a hard time moving the ball on some health and safety issues?"

LINKS. LINKS. LINKS. In case you thought Saints fans were over it, they're not... Former Badgers really shouldn't be allowed to be this likable... The obsession with political correctness is going overboard... One of my favorite music videos of all time... These will never get old... But this joke kind of is... Please rise and remove your hat before clicking this link.

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Poison nuts's picture

Super Bowl?? Never heard of it...Is that a football thing or something? On the other hand, I do know a thing or 2 about football players, like - did you know Zeke Elliott likes Chinese food? That's called inside info - I'm sort of a recruiting expert...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

You didn't charge $10 to tell me that EzE likes Chinese food, so I doubt you're a real recruiting expert.

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Poison nuts's picture

$10 bucks will get you which restaurant he likes best...so...what's that credit card number?

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Just charge it to 11w.

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btalbert25's picture

LOL, a local guy here did a start up webpage for Cincinnati Sports, it was a great little site, that just never really had enough money to take off.  They had great coverage, a photographer they'd send to games.  He had a fund raiser and we got enough money raised to send him to spring training.  Anyway, it fell through, he just was making no money on the site and couldn't keep working for free so he took a gig with CBS sports.
When he parted from the site he said he was convinced only Recruiting Websites and Porn made money on the internet.  I think Jason can probably share that sentiment as well.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

:/

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Abe Froman's picture

I think the reported Alabama offer to Elliot is worth noting also.  Coming in at the eleventh hour to offer to him is either and attempt at landing yet another 4 or 5 start recruit or simply a way to stir the pot.  
Thanks for the Super Bowl ads.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Killer nuts's picture

What makes no sense to me is one day there are reports that bama doesn't have room for bell at safety then the next day they offer EZE, allegedly as a DB

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

It could be Saban was informed that Bell chose Ohio State, and this is his way of trying to get back at Urban.

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Killer nuts's picture

But that wouldn't help Saban have any more space. If there's no room for Vonn how could he have room for EZE

Normal Buck's picture

"Spaces"?!  He don't need no stinking "spaces"!

cbusbuckeye's picture

@killernuts, the ESSSEEEECCCC doesn't acknowledge this concept of "room" or "scholarship limit".  they oversign, that's how.  

Brutus's picture

Cue Catch 5 in 3, 2, 1....

Catch 5's picture

Brutus, no gripe from me on this - those are valad questions (if there is, in fact a real offer from Bama - this is the first I've heard of it).  Bama is stacked at RB, and has 3 quality commits already with this class so I for one would be shocked to see them really pursuing more (unless there are unreported issues with the rehab process of Hart and Fowler who both were lost to ACL injuries last year) especially given Saban's love of a good 5-star DB like Bell. 

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

Abe Froman's picture

Not all.  I have heard reports that Fla doesn't.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Because he's vindictive?

I thought there was also a rumor that he wanted to move Bell to CB. I could be wrong.

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Ohio1St81's picture

Also, just because, this is pretty funny too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QPB9NBUG2g

gumtape's picture

I have no problem with raising ticket prices if it leads to, you know, keeping good coaches. I am afraid the school will justify it in the name of higher education, but lets be honest, we just want them to hire better assistant coaches (in general terms, I have no problem with our current crop of assistants). And hopefully someday we can use it to pay players too.
I am not kidding.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

CC's picture

I have a problem with it.  They make me buy Florida A&M at full price and then charge me extra for UM.  I'm all for supporting the program and paying assistants but there is a supply curve and a demand curve and where they meet may not be at 105,000 people very much longer.  I'm proud of the shoe being full 20 minutes before the games when PSU isn't full by the end of the 1st but that may not always be the case.
We're not poor but there will be a point where buying a season worth of tickets in order for me to drive 350 miles 2x per year will be too much.  At some point I would rather just pick the 2 games I want to go to and pay $250 per ticket.

yrro's picture

If they're going to charge extra for the big games (which I understand - it's a little ridiculous to have everyone be able to immediately turn around and sell them for twice face value), they need to drop the price for the early games no one cares about. Or schedule fewer games no one cares about.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

You didn't mention that guy from that team in South Bend. I love you for that.
 

What better way to get a Buckeye's day off to a great start, than to tell a little story of a Wolverine getting called out?

Eh. C.Webb is the only player from M*chigan that I actually like. Unlike Shaq, he actually fits in with the TNT crew.

 These will never get old.

They seriously need to bring back the Budweiser frogs. They've been absent long enough. :/

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RedStorm45's picture

If the NFL cares about player safety, why is an 18 game schedule proposal still on the table?

cbusbuckeye's picture

The NFL cares about profit. the NFLPA kind of cares about player safety...

Rapping Bum's picture

What do you think the NCAA cares about?

Help is on the way.

cbusbuckeye's picture

Profit...what do you think OSU cares about...making MONEY. This particular discussion however, is in regards to the NFL

RedStorm45's picture

Well, yeah.  But publicly they're all about player safety, changing the rules to lessen injuries, etc.  So still talking about an 18 game schedule is a dumb PR move.  "Let's make the game a little safer for the player, but subject them to 2 more games of hits."

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Does anyone actually believe the NFL cares about anything besides turning a profit, and not being sued?

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

"The NFL" is an organization, not a person with feelings and/or a singular moral outlook. As such, the NFL would not "care" about anything, just as the NFLPA - another organization - would not care about player safety, either.
You're right, though, a business organization is concerned with profit; however, an organization's profit margins might be hindered if increasing numbers of the public/consumers perceive that organization to be "greedy, uncaring," etc.
Individual owners probably care about player safety - to a greater or lesser extent - even if their feelings/concerns are primarily motivated by desire for profit, concerns about legal liabilities, public image, and/or wanting to protect their teams' legacies. 
Now, you're probably absolutely right that the NFLPA organization - which represents all the individual players (with individual feelings and moral views, etc.) - places a higher priority on player safety than does the ownership organization, which represents individual owners (with their own individual feelings and moral views).
Interestingly enough, though, the NFLPA seems to "care" less about (i.e., place lower priority on) the welbeings of past players from the 1960s, 70s, 80s, maybe because doing so would cut into their "profits."
And I heard a guy on the radio the other day pose an interesting question: What if the NFL (owners) announced, in response to the Seau family's lawsuit against the NFL, that they were going completely close-up shop (no practices or games, etc.) until such time as they could ensure that the game is safe. This radio pundit suggested that the fans would viciously turn on the Seau family, with the implication being that the fans place much higher priority on getting the entertainment products they desperately demand (i.e., a non-monetary form of "profit") than on player safety.  
Sorry to be a semantic jackass with this, but I don't see it as helpful to demonize owners compared to players or the fans. We're all in it together, so to speak, with enough blame to go around. By all means, we might be more critical of how the NFL owners are responding to safety concerns versus how the NFLPA is responding, but let's not assume that individual players are caring and owners are uncaring and so forth.    

buckeyedude's picture

An organization doesn't have feelings, but it can be concerned with getting sued, and that's where all this is going. Lawsuits(especially frivolous ones, like the ambulance chasers and the woman that spilled coffee on her crotch, and burned her genitalia) are changing American society for the worse, like it or not. Just my opinion.
I guess we need protection from ourselves and our stupidity(as Americans). 
 

 

 

Dean's picture

Shouldn't the NFL care about getting sued?  Isn't making the NFL liable for the harm it causes the way to make it care about safety?  Lawsuits are one way of making an entity that cares only about profits act as though it cares about other things, like the harm it causes to others through its activities.
There are frivolous lawsuits out there, sure, but it's not entirely clear that this is one of them.  There is, obviously, an argument that all this harm isn't the NFL's fault, it's part of the "culture" of the NFL and football, but then the harm is really caused by the people who are paying to watch all this violence (namely, us, unfortunately), and one way to fix that is... make us pay to take care of the people who get harmed in providing us entertainment (through higher ticket prices, caused by higher costs to the league from player lawsuits).

BucksfanXC's picture

WARNING: Kate Upton is a Michigan fan! Ogle at your own risk. (If you care)

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I can forgive her ignorance.

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iball's picture

I thought Kate Upton was from South Carolina? What are your sources?
 

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

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iball's picture

Ugh, what a whore.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

That was a little harsh...

Like I said, I can forgive her ignorance. She's had to witness her beloved school get pounded by tOSU since she was 8. I need to comfort her.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

iball's picture

This is who I had in mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caitlin_Upton
 
 

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

She's probably a ND fan. lol

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

I personally believe that US Americans... might be able to ignore your accidental misunderstanding; that is, if we all had maps.
(directed at IBall)

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

BSTP DeCon's picture

At least Melanie Iglesias's version of the Cat Daddy was better than Kate Upton's IMHO.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I had no idea what you were talking about when I read that. God bless you google search. ;_;

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Mi.Buckeye's picture

She was born in Michigan and her uncle is congressman Fred Upton

buckeyedude's picture

I think Elika is better looking than her. ;)

 

 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Suck up. :/

And who, Melanie or Kate?

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Are you letting your Buckeye bias cloud your judgement?

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BuckeyeVet's picture

Not only is Elika better looking, I'd bet that she could do a meaner Cat Daddy. While eating a steak & bacon sandwich. It ain't sucking up when it's true!

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Suck ups everywhere! And a steak & bacon sandwich? Gross. :/

I think Elika is gorgeous and all, but no one is topping that Melanie Iglesias/Lisa Ramos "Cat Daddy". That was frakin awesome.

I had no idea what a Cat Daddy was before today. Sounds like jive talk from the 70s.

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NC_Buckeye's picture

Cat Daddy
I assume the dance is related to the first definition:

A dude over fifty five who can still get it
Lionel Richie is one cat daddy you had better not leave your lady alone with

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Sounds about right.

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weimerad's picture

Has it been 100% confirmed that Withers was the last person to give a final pitch to Bell?  I thought Alex or Derek posted something yesterday that said Withers visited Bell in the morning and then went to see his father at work?
If it's true then that's huge.  Having the last word in this situation can be a big advantage

brumon's picture

Accoring to this, Bama staff met with him after Withers. Scroll to the end of the article.  At this point, as long as Withers got in there after UT staff since it seems to be between UT and tOSU.
 

Ohio State co-defensive coordinator Everett Withers was at Ridgeland on Thursday morning and left campus to meet with Bell’s father, Vincent, at his job. Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and new defensive backs coach Greg Brown were on campus Thursday afternoon to meet with Bell.

weimerad's picture

See I read that as well, and that's where I'm confused.  The article says that Butch Jones and UT met with Bell in the evening.  So what was the source saying Withers met with him Thursday evening?  Kind of disappointed in the 11 warriors staff member who posted that information. 

Elika's picture

The article never says they met with Bell in the evening. Read it again. 

Source that Withers met with Bell last night: Alex Gleitman of Eleven Warriors. 

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

weimerad's picture

Ummm, see the paragraph below darlin.  It came directly from your Skull Session article.
"Lastly, five-star safety Von Bell, got a visit from Everett Withers last night. Withers was the last coach able to get a word in with Bell before he shut down his recruitment. Bell will be making his final decision this weekend."
I don't know what article you're referring to, but yours says that Withers was the last coach to speak with Bell.  However, a link to another article/piece outside of 11 warriors says that Withers met with Bell in the morning and Butch Jones met with him in the evening. 
My point is that 2 different sources are saying that 2 different schools met with Bell in the evening.  Who is correct, and who really did get the last word in? 

Elika's picture

A) Please refrain from callin' me darlin' in that tone.  

B) "I don't know what article you're referring to"- I was referring to the same article YOU were referring to. Seeing as how I was responding to your comment, that would make sense, no?

C) Again, the "link to another article/piece outside of 11 Warriors" never says that Butch Jones met with Bell in the evening, as you claim. So, again, please read it again. And, in case I am the one that was missing something in that article, please quote it for me, so I can see where it states that Butch Jones met with Bell last night.

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

weimerad's picture

Sorry if that offended you. 
OK, so the article said that Butch Jones met with his coach Thursday evening, not Bell specifically.
But you still didn't answer what I wanted to know.  Who spoke with Bell last?

Elika's picture

That was answered in the Skull Session, but in case it wasn't clear: Assuming Alex is correct, and I have no reason to believe he isn't, Withers met with Bell again last night, making him the last to speak with him before he shut down his recruitment.

I'm not fully aware of all the rules here as they apply to OSU's contact with Bell specifically, but it's not unheard of for a coach to visit a recruit at school, and then later at his home that same day. So what you're reading isn't necessarily contradictory. 

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

weimerad's picture

Ahh, you said that Withers met with Bell AGAIN last night, which was not mentioned in the Skull Session, only that he met with him last night.  So then he met with him twice, once in the morning and again in the evening.  Now that makes more sense, something that wasn't originally detailed and clarified. 

Tommy's picture

Darlin? Really??

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

What's wrong with darlin? He might be from Texas.

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Baroclinicity's picture

She, however, is not.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Elika's picture

There's nothing wrong with darlin. There's something wrong with someone who wasn't able to comprehend what I was saying calling me that in order to imply that I didn't comprehend what he was saying. He might as well have told me to go make him a sandwich.

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

weimerad's picture

Your article says that Withers met with Bell Thursday evening and was able to get in the last word.  However, another article (which you linked) said that Withers met with Bell on Thursday morning and then he went to meet with his dad at work.  Alabama coaches met with Bell in the afternoon, and Butch Jones met with his coach in the evening. 
So what I'm getting at is that your article contradicts what another article is saying.  So who is correct??

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Give him a chance to defend himself before you assume he's belittling you. Some people just talk that way.

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AndyVance's picture

Eh, I talk that way too, in the real world, but I read the "darlin'" comment the same way Elika did... that implied Aw shucks, Honey, you clearly don't understand what the men are talking about.
I'm not saying he intended to sound like a jerk, but it's notoriously difficult to use such colloquial phrases in text without it coming off badly, regardless of intent.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I read it that way initially, but I took a step back because he may not have meant it that way.

I guess i'm defending him because misinterpretations are what cause so many arguments online. The moment she saw "darlin" it seemed like her defenses went up.

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AndyVance's picture

As any of us who have ever written a cute/funny comment in an email and lived to regret it can attest, you're very kind for giving the benefit of the doubt, 'cause misinterpretations can and do start online word fights all. the. time.
Which is why it pays to be super careful when you're trying to be clever.

Sarah's picture

"Ron? I have a name. It's Dorothy. It's not Tootsie or Toots or Sweetie or Honey or Doll."

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I knew this was coming.

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Baroclinicity's picture

Tangent:  It's crazy to see Jessica Lange in that movie and then see her in American Horror Story on FX.  30 years...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Time is cruel.

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buckeyedude's picture

So I guess "sweetheart" is out of the question? teasing. :)

 

 

Poison nuts's picture

Oh right the f*ck on Sarah...Tootsie! Perfect. Wow...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Yeah, you're right, but it can be a pain having to walk on eggshells all the time.

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osu07asu10's picture

I don't think asking people to not belittle eachother is walking on eggshells. His comment clearly had that intent. If he would have simply stated it the way he has in posts following the initial comment, this wouldn't even be discussed.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I wasn't specifically talking about this situation.

Besides, if he had meant it to be offensive, I don't think he would have apologized to Elika.

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jedkat's picture

in all fairness, judging from your food-porn and love of all things bacon, I bet you can make one HELL of a sandwich
again, sarcasm

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Smoked ham and sharp cheddar cheese with tomato, lettuce, onions, and pickles, smothered in dijon mustard on an onion roll. Please.

iball's picture

No one holds a gun to your head and makes you or your kid play football. If you dont wanna get hurt, dont play...simple.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

buckeyedude's picture

I agree completely. Again, it's PC.
There are vicious hits(and fist fights) in hockey as well, and you don't hear the Canadians bitchin' about safety.
And what about the UFC? I'm surprised that isn't getting more scrutiny.
There is a guy on the radio, world renkown, won't mention his name, that has been saying the media was going to try and kill football for over two years now. The dude is almost always right. He said this a couple years ago, and it's now coming to a head. Why the concern, all of a sudden, for player safety? Why do citizens need protection from every effing thing?  

 

 

penult's picture

"No one holds a gun to your head and makes" you take a job, but employers are still required to protect workers' health and safety.
 
You guys are living in a super paranoid version of the world about a hundred years ago.

Buckifan4Life's picture

Whoa! There is a big difference between working at Walmart and playing in the NFL. Relatively speaking, NFL players are making a gazillion dollars, so yes, their is more risk. Now I do think they should use technology to make football more safe (better helmets) and tweek the game a bit when needed, but as a poster stated, no one is putting a gun to their head to make all that money. They can go work at Subway if they want (all due respect to Walmart and Subway workers).

Let's put this discussion in perspective though. Soldiers risk dieing for far less money and boxers get concussed sometimes multiple times in a fight. NFL players know what they are signing up for and have for years. That said, I am for better safety as long as the game isn't being completely sacrificed.

It's all about money and these lawsuits right now...

buckeyedude's picture

You're naive.

 

 

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Whenever I see stories of PC run amok it makes me want to start throwing raw meat at a bunch of protestors like in the movie PCU. Those people won't rest until every commercial and every advertisement is stripped down to people wearing gray tee shirts, no make up and no discernable human traits (i.e. boobs).

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

Yeah the PC thing has gone way overboard, i mean their is being respectful and all but damn anything you say now days someone under a rock somewhere is gonna be offended by whatever it is you said.

Michigan Sucks!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I'm offended that you can't respect people who choose to live their lives under a rock.

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BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

Hahahaha cant help it! my grandpappy hated people that lived under a rock, my paps hated them and i too can not respect their decisions!

Michigan Sucks!

cinserious's picture

Matter of fact, I'm offended by BuckeyeFreak4844's plain white avatar! What's the reeeeeal hidden message behind that?

Gone ham, be back soon...

BuckeyeFreak4844's picture

I used to have a avatar not sure where it went or how to put another on there lol

Michigan Sucks!

Unky Buck's picture

This was always one of my favorite Super Bowl commercials...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-47alAAP0
I'm having issues embedding media or even linking to sites, so this will have to do for now.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I have a question for you Elika(this can also be answered by any of the 11w staff). It's a 2 part thing.

1. Do you follow recruiting closely?
2. Is it a big deal to you when Ohio State gets or loses out on a particular recruit?

Just curious.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Elika's picture

1. I suppose "closely" is all relative, but I'd have to say no. I try to keep somewhat up to speed on where they stand nationally, and with Alex's updates, but it's nowhere near the top of my list of interests or priorities, admittedly. 

2. No. If they land a big recruit that gets Buckeye fans excited, I take some joy in things like that, but it never really makes or breaks my day. 

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Not even a small "Yes" with a fist pump when Ohio State got Pryor?

For me getting a recruit I wanted is like Ohio State scoring the first TD of the game. Not life altering, but it is exciting.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Elika's picture

I don't meant this in the sameless self-promoting way it'll come across, but since you asked about my thoughts on when OSU got Pryor, not sure if you ever read this:

 

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/07/12563/frank-the-dentist

How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

If you don't promote you, who will?

Nope, never saw it. I think I was taking a break from all things Ohio State in July(not that you care lol).

I get that Frank D was bothering you, but your reaction is the reason I rarely ever go up to talk to women I don't know.

Ahh, September 1st 2007. To be 23 again.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

osu07asu10's picture

Elika, although I generally agree about Zwick and his career not matching his recruiting hype...he did give us 1 gem:

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Mi.Buckeye's picture

Would love to see a grey box that says Bell makes 24!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Grey boxes aside: Can we get a ruling on the "grey" spelling in the context of Buckeyes athletics?
In terms of general language usage, grey is more popular outside the U.S. (in other English-speaking countries), whereas gray is popular in the U.S.
Normally, the spellings are interchangeable, but is the Buckeye brand pretty much "scarlet and gray"?
And if "scarlet and grey" is making a comeback, should we blame that on the English-style pub N. High Street, Scarlet & Grey?

AndyVance's picture

According to The Ohio State University style guide, the Americanized spelling "gray" appears to be the correct usage:

Scarlet and Gray
Uppercase when referring to the Buckeyes. Lowercase when referring to the colors.
She always roots for the Scarlet and Gray, even though she lives in Texas now.
She always wears scarlet and gray to the games.

buckeyedude's picture

I've often wondered this. I thought "gray" was the color, and "grey" was only used in context of a "greyhound dog" or "Greyhound bus."
I'm sure some English major will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

AndyVance's picture

According to The Grammarist, the two are simply interchangeable spellings of the same word:

Gray and grey are different spellings of the same word, and both are used throughout the English-speaking world. But gray is more common in American English, while grey is more common in all the other main varieties of English. In the U.K., for instance, grey appears about twenty times for every instance of gray. In the U.S. the ratio is reversed.

You might find this graphic interesting, showing the relative use of the spellings in U.S. publications over time:

osu07asu10's picture

So I think we have it then...
Grey box = Evil, Bad News
GRAY box = box of happiness, joy, and undeniable elation

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Dougger's picture

OR!!! or... or.. grey - a movie starring an awesome guy:

I like football

buckeyedude's picture

I believe Liam is from Ireland. That explains the "Grey" spelling.

 

 

Earle's picture

Now I've seen it all....
What ya got for Earle vs. Earl?  Pie charts?

AndyVance's picture

Pie charts, no. However...
As you are undoubtedly aware, the name is largely derived from the English title of nobility, Earl. According to the gnomes at Wikipedia:

The title is Anglo-Saxon, akin to the Scandinavian form jarl, and meant "chieftain", particularly a chieftain set to rule a territory in a king's stead. In Scandinavia, it became obsolete in the Middle Ages and was replaced with duke (hertig/hertug). In later medieval Britain, it became the equivalent of the continental count (in England in the earlier period, it was more akin to duke; in Scotland it assimilated the concept of mormaer). However, earlier in Scandinavia jarl could also mean sovereign prince.
In modern Britain, an earl is a member of the peerage, ranking below a marquess and above viscount. There never developed a feminine form of earl; countess is used as the equivalent feminine title.

As with the gray/grey debate, the use of the letter -e appears to be a British preference. According to data from the Social Security Administration, the name Earl was the 994th most-popular name in the U.S. in 2006, down from 147th in 1962. Earle, on the other hand, is apparently so unpopular today that it is not ranked at all, only having shown up in the top 1,000 names recorded in three of the last 50 years: 1962, 1966 and 1968 (makes you wonder how many of those boys were born in Sandusky or Massillon).
Since you like graphs, here's a look at how popularity of the name Earl has trended over time:

 

buckeyedude's picture

I feel like I have learned something today. That's not easy at 48.
Call me weird, but I find this "gray/grey" debate almost as amusing as a...uh...gray box. I guess it looks like "gray" is the spelling in vogue.
I'm looking at your graph, Andy. Around the year 1825 "gray and grey" were in a virtual dead heat. But they both bottomed out right there. Then from that point forward, "gray" starts to pull away from "grey."  What is it that could have caused the separation of "gray" from "grey" at that point?
I'm going with global warming.

 

 

OSUStu's picture

Yeah.  I'm pretty comfortable saying we should go with the way its done in the good ol' US of A and at THE Ohio State University.
Gray 4Eva!

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

hodge's picture

Matter of preference, in my humblest opinion.  I prefer English stylings, personally: theatre, centre, favourite, grey, etc...

AndyVance's picture

I'm with you 100%.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Hodge: I'm schizophrenic on English/Euro stylings.
In the company of Anglophiles and especially affected American Francophiles, I will feign a mild degree of Anglophobia and a comically extreme degree of Francophobia.
When not trying to antagonize such people, I secretly indulge in English Premier League football, look back longingly on Arts & Crafts design, honor English ale, as well as love me some French food of course.    

German Buckeye's picture

Man, looking at those JJ Watt tweets - dude could seriously choose from any number of women to date/marry.  I forget how different a life professional athletes live from the rest of us.  Guy is probably beating the women off with a stick. Assume he is single though, haven't researched.     

BuckeyeVet's picture

My hair is getting gray enough that when I put on a scarlet shirt I'm automatically in the school colors! 

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

JTownBuckeye's picture

Elika, Sarah & the rest of the staff. I just want to say thank you for all that you do. I first followed OSU recruiting with Robert Smith's recruitment and once took it as seriously as many do on this site. That was long before marriage & the kids. Coming to this site is a short diversion from the stressors of real life and I chuckle when I see people question the staff's sources, or nitpick articles, or openly fret about a recruit's decision. I for one appreciate all of your efforts, your insight, and your love of all things OSU and wanted to say thank you.

osubuckeye4life's picture

I think what makes JJ Watt so likeable is the guy made himself with hard work and determination. Sure, I still have nightmares of that game in Camp Randal back in 2010 where he terrorized the backfield. But, the guy is easy to root for. 
 
Terry Tate Office Linebacker is too low on that list. 

cplunk's picture

The words Terry Tate, Office Linebacker automatically make me laugh. That and Trunk Monkey.