Men's Basketball Open Thread: Michigan State

By 11W Staff on January 19, 2013 at 5:45p
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thatlillefty's picture

I'm thinking Lenzelle steps it up tonight. Him and Rav.
Lessssgo bucks!

b_pbucksfans's picture

When Lenzelle is sitting, this team is so much better. Scott and Craft should be out there!

urbanmdg's picture

Looking for a Slam Thompson tonight. LET'S GO BUCKS!!!!

Go Buckeyes

d1145fresh's picture

I wonder what Buckeye team is going to show up tonight? 

Unky Buck's picture

If we pull out a B1G road win against a high quality opponent, does this signify the turning point for the Buckeyes? I think so...but we'll wait and see how this turns out.

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CowCat's picture

The thread photo seems legit.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

dubjayfootball90's picture

this louisville game is legit

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

dubjayfootball90's picture

damn, good game, now on to watch tOSU whoop on some spartans

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Unky Buck's picture

Agreed. That was a fun game to watch.

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Unky Buck's picture

Not the start we needed. Sloppy offense.

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RedStorm45's picture

Terrible Craft is back.  Great.

TLB's picture

Road tOSU is not good

Idaho Helga's picture

Breathe.  Players.  Fans.  All.

Unky Buck's picture

Great advice...so stinkin hard to though...

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buckeye_baker's picture

Less than a stellar start...
But I will keep in mind the last time we played at MSU. 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

Idaho Helga's picture

Thompson has to be the spark today.

dubjayfootball90's picture

cant believe how sloppy this is

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RedStorm45's picture

4 turnovers in less than 6 minutes?

slippy's picture

2 forced shots and a TO from Smith.  Not sure why he gets so much PT.

TLB's picture

We forgot how to rebound

dubjayfootball90's picture

wow, TO central 

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BME_Buckeye's picture

Why do you keep passing the ball inside. This is getting annoying! 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

TLB's picture

because they cant shoot outside

Idaho Helga's picture

Note to Craft: Do not go inside at Sparty.

buckeye_baker's picture

More of that please. 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

Idaho Helga's picture

My crappy (likely) prediction:  If we go far this year, Sam is the spark.

dubjayfootball90's picture

that looked like a rainbow, so smooth, nice shot by craft

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BuckeyeKrime's picture

About time were sparking something up. Looked sluggish coming out.

RedStorm45's picture

Scott pulling a Craft with the 5 second!!

Unky Buck's picture

Somehow we need to figure out how to turn the tempo up. That has worked better for us than playing this slow, half court offense.

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TLB's picture

Things are looking up

dubjayfootball90's picture

DT heating up!!!

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RedStorm45's picture

Tank.  Enough said.

TLB's picture

Dakich telling it like it is

RedStorm45's picture

Dakich calling out TV Teddy. Awesome.

Idaho Helga's picture

Would be lovely to rack up some fouls on Sparty.

buckeye_baker's picture

Haha Ted Valentine. Love he got called out. 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

Buckeye1996's picture

What was teddy called out for. I missed that.

RedStorm45's picture

Dakich said you know if its a prime time game on ESPN Ted Valentine is going to be calling something ( out of the ordinary I assume he meant ) with the whole sideline warning, running to the table right after, etc.

buckeye_baker's picture

Dakich called him out for being a tv attention whore when he called a sideline warning on OSU. 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

dubjayfootball90's picture

haha, ball getting stuck is always funny

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

RedStorm45's picture

Q getting some minutes, maybe more than 3 this game?

buckeye_baker's picture

Tank!

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

Idaho Helga's picture

Having to listen to radio.  I like Keels.   We're settling down. This is good.

TLB's picture

we'll get no 2nd half calls.
nice brick

dubjayfootball90's picture

think that was a makeup call on rav? what was the call?

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Buckeye1996's picture

Yeah I agree. SMH.

Unky Buck's picture

Bad call for sure...no idea what they were even calling there.

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Idaho Helga's picture

Sparty crowd is tough, but I think if we stay focused we can win this.  Got to quiet them regularly.

Buckeye1996's picture

Got to like where were are currently at given the poor start. I thought we were going to get blown out. Visions of the Illinois game.

Buckeye1996's picture

Get Dawson all worked up and he does stupid things...lol.

Idaho Helga's picture

No, I don't want to play the transition game with Sparty ON THE ROAD

TLB's picture

looking at our half court O, we might need to

RedStorm45's picture

Once again, playing better with Scott at that point. How long until this isn't a coincidence?

b_pbucksfans's picture

I agree. Lenzelle should come off the bench.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

17-16 OSU #JustLikeFootball

Class of 2010.

RedStorm45's picture

Yeaaah, um...maybe guard that 3 point line?

Idaho Helga's picture

Gotta watch that transition crap from  Sparty.  Deshawn just warming up. WOOT Craft!

Buckeye1996's picture

Ross is definitely starting to look more comfortable. He is so smooth and athletic. Just needs some seasoning which hopefully happens fast.

Buckeye1996's picture

That louisville and syracuse game was crazy good.

b_pbucksfans's picture

Amir needs to drink some badger milk!

TLB's picture

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

dubjayfootball90's picture

i love that seamless lane drive that he does

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Buckeye1996's picture

Get tank and ross going at the same time and we are gold.

Idaho Helga's picture

This one goes to the buzzer.

dubjayfootball90's picture

omg, is that a serious pass...... honestly??? another TO???

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

DT 3 to send us to half down 1...

TLB's picture

9 turnovers about 2 of them forced

RedStorm45's picture

Lenzelle is not playing well.  Craft is way too inconsistent, and getting beat defensively.  Not a great finish to the half, but should be no more than 4 point deficit.  Too many turnovers.

Lyon25's picture

Lenzelle hasn't played well in awhile. His turnovers have been killers lately. This team is so much better when he's playing confident

RedQueenRace's picture

Usually he at least rebounds well.  But had zip in the first half.

Idaho Helga's picture

Absolutely no disrespect to Matta; but I love Izzo. He's a really good coach AND recruiter.

TLB's picture

yeah, 2 good fouls there late in the possession

Clmm297's picture

Absolutely no disrespect to Izzo; but I love Matta.  He's a really good coach AND recruiter.

BuckNutInAnnArbor's picture

Did anyone else hear the announcer say "This rich guy to my right is looking for an explanation" earlier?

"...but then again 'Michigan' and 'huge mistake' are synonymous so that shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody."  - Mark Titus

dubjayfootball90's picture

yea, i was like 'what do you mean?" heh

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RedStorm45's picture

2 games in a row we let up in the final minutes of the first half.  Geez.

dubjayfootball90's picture

pretty crappy half, if I do say so myself.... which I will

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VBBuckeye's picture

True, but only down by four playing that awful isn't bad.

dubjayfootball90's picture

not at all, but no matter if we were winning, those TO's HAVE to stop... ugh, so frustrating, haha

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VBBuckeye's picture

Yeah, definitely uncharacteristic for them and very frustrating!

Baroclinicity's picture

Typical B1G hoops.  It's a grind.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

nw_ohio_Buckeye's picture

21.6 seconds left in the half and a Craft heave from inside half court is the only shot attempted. MSU had two fouls to give and Craft didn't even start running "the offense" til under 9 seconds. Seriously. Terrible time out draw up by Matta. Even worse execution by OSU.  Giving up those opportunities will kill us.

"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" ~ Woody Hayes 

RedStorm45's picture

Craft, uncontested 12 footer, barely hit iron.  Wow.

dubjayfootball90's picture

haha, i hope that ball hit payne on the head and went out

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dubjayfootball90's picture

haha beat me to it

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RedStorm45's picture

Your extra !! cost you time haha

dubjayfootball90's picture

DT on FIRE!!!!

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RedStorm45's picture

Thomas with half out points.

RedStorm45's picture

Craft isn't even playing good defense now.

Clmm297's picture

you're not really serious....right?

RedStorm45's picture

Are you seeing the blow bys against him?

Clmm297's picture

“Craft is as good as there is and as I’ve ever seen,” Michigan head coach John Beilein said. “He’s tremendous.”
 
....from just 6 days ago.  I don't think his game has regressed that much.

RedStorm45's picture

I said "now" as in the past few series.

CSAR Buckeye's picture

We are giving up far too many open lanes to the basket.  MSU is slashing to the hoop with authority and we're not slowing them down.

dubjayfootball90's picture

ahh good movement now, nice fast break 

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RedStorm45's picture

Smith hit a 3 and now is jacking everything up.

Buckeye1996's picture

Arg. Why do seem to always we clank the FT?

Buckeye1996's picture

Uh. Did I just type that..ha.
 
Why do we seem to always clank the FT?
 
There we go.

RedStorm45's picture

Why no Shannon Scott?? 

CSAR Buckeye's picture

That was disappointing.

Buckeye1996's picture

Matta should be pulling his hair out over FT if he had a surplus that is...

TLB's picture

I'd foul us every shot

CSAR Buckeye's picture

No kidding.  There is no excuse for poor free throw shooting.

RedStorm45's picture

Here's how you get better at FT's...practice.

Buckeye1996's picture

Thats three points in the last minute we left on the table via FT.

dubjayfootball90's picture

ugh, that would have silenced them hard

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CSAR Buckeye's picture

My kingdom for a physical big.

RedQueenRace's picture

Seven three pointers and only 36 points.  Amazing.

RedStorm45's picture

5-1 Msu advantage on offensive glass

okiebuck's picture

Same shit differant game; stagnant offense; no rebounding and of course missed FT's.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

dubjayfootball90's picture

DT getting into beast mode

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RedStorm45's picture

5-6 on 3s for tank.  Is he 2-6 inside the arc?

TLB's picture

hook shot?
 

RedStorm45's picture

Alright, seriously...tank needs to touch the ball every time down.

okiebuck's picture

This game is there for the taking Buckeyes!!!!!

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

Idaho Helga's picture

Am I the only one not wanting Ravenel in the game?

CSAR Buckeye's picture

Right there with you, Helga.

okiebuck's picture

No; I second that

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

TLB's picture

they are 9-10 from line

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Craft can't shoot and is an average passer... has that hand surgery really made him better?

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

dubjayfootball90's picture

really, no attempt to rebpound>? well that is exactly what happens

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Buckeye1996's picture

We didn't even have anyone after the rebound on Amir's second FT. We could have gotten that

RedStorm45's picture

Amir is softer than cotton candy.

okiebuck's picture

Good one RS

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

Buckeye1996's picture

Moving pick. All day on MSU.

TLB's picture

finally called it

okiebuck's picture

Amir Williams needs to MAN UP; take the damm ball strong to the hole.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

dubjayfootball90's picture

AND 1 baby!!! take it hard to the RIM SCOTT!!

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CSAR Buckeye's picture

Nice Scott!  Nice!

TLB's picture

I think he found his range

Buckeye1996's picture

Wow. We got back in it quickly...lol.

RedQueenRace's picture

Now make the FT for once.

dubjayfootball90's picture

honeswtly, I do not know what I will do if he clanks this... we need this

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

Buckeye1996's picture

I wish we had a true big to hawk the middle. I like Amir but he ain't the answer plus he needs to buy a pair of hands.

dubjayfootball90's picture

that scoring leader breakdown they just showed is absurd. WE NEED A #2 scorer!!!

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

dubjayfootball90's picture

great TO as well, right on Cue

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CSAR Buckeye's picture

Craft with two bone head moves in 30 sec.

dubjayfootball90's picture

we gotta settle down
 
edit: nice controlled shot by DT

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RedQueenRace's picture

Those look like fatigue misses.

TLB's picture

one bad call with a makeup bad call

dubjayfootball90's picture

ugh, that 3 pter would have been big..damn foul

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RedStorm45's picture

Are we talking about "looks" in player's eyes?? What?

CSAR Buckeye's picture

Rav has bricks for hands.

dubjayfootball90's picture

GRAB THE BALL, stop tipping it!!! ahhhh

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RedStorm45's picture

TV TEDDY LADIES AND GENTS

TLB's picture

Like I said.  We get no calls in 2nd half

CSAR Buckeye's picture

He was not set.  Got robbed there.

RedStorm45's picture

No Thompson?  I'd take him over smith.

dubjayfootball90's picture

HUGE SHOT. awesome game so far

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RedStorm45's picture

We're a 12 win team without Thomas.

CSAR Buckeye's picture

Wow.  Deshaun Thomas is a monster.  Beautiful shot!

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

DT fired up!  If anyone can read lips...:)

Class of 2010.

okiebuck's picture

Please please please sit Ravenel's ass on the bench fo rtheis last 2:00

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

RedStorm45's picture

Can anyone on this team hang onto a loose ball?

dubjayfootball90's picture

ugh, control... under control... just give it right back

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Buckeye1996's picture

Where was the foul! He stole it then got fouled. Holy smokes.

d1145fresh's picture

If POY goes to the person who single handedly makes their team better Thomas should win it hands down. This team would be sub-500 without him. 

dubjayfootball90's picture

i was just thinking this before he made that 3... very true statement

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buckeye4life050233's picture

Valentine is one of the worst officials ever

Buckeye1996's picture

Scott got screwed. I'm still fuming. This is crunch time and the calls suck.

TLB's picture

RIP Stan the Man

TLB's picture

Ravenel with foul but it wasnt his fault

Baroclinicity's picture

Huge possession here...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

TLB's picture

Dakich is tremendous

RedStorm45's picture

Rav...frustrating to watch

Baroclinicity's picture

Not seeing this. Rather have him than Amir...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

RedStorm45's picture

Just the foul and turnover back to back.

RedStorm45's picture

So if we practice free throws we're winning, good job guys.

TLB's picture

6-11 from line , they are 10-12.  We down 2.

dubjayfootball90's picture

not sure if I can take another 2nd half implosion. the last minute has been terrible play except for that steal by craft

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

RedStorm45's picture

Craft + Smith = 3/13 shooting

VBBuckeye's picture

The points left on the foul line are painful!

okiebuck's picture

Ditto; RIP Stan the Man; and Dakich is really good.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

okiebuck's picture

Crunch time boys

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

dubjayfootball90's picture

play defense, cause a TO or missed shot, and win it with a game winner

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

dubjayfootball90's picture

such a low scoring game, should not be like this with the FT's that we clanked earlier, give us a few more points, at least be tied now

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

RedStorm45's picture

Appling with another blow by. Great.

Conroy's picture

Yes!  We're going to get another shot!  

TLB's picture

Valentine strikes with the wrong call again.
We'll take it

BME_Buckeye's picture

OMG this is just like last year Thomas for the win!

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Baroclinicity's picture

Got a break there

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Buckeye1996's picture

I thought it was a good call. :)

TLB's picture

Craft with the shot?  Really?

RedQueenRace's picture

It's a wide open shot.
Sooner or later someone other than Thomas has to make those if this team is going anywhere.

VBBuckeye's picture

Totally agree. That thing goes in and it's no question. Sometimes they miss, but they gotta take those wide open shots!

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

You'd be singing a different tune if Craft made that and OSU won.

Class of 2010.

RedStorm45's picture

A Craft 3 out if the in bounds....wha, wha

RedStorm45's picture

2nd field goal of the game for smith, dumb announcer

okiebuck's picture

It is just so damm tough on the road in the best BB Conference in the country.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

TLB's picture

Jackets time.

TLB's picture

LOL...Nashville scores 39 seconds in

Conroy's picture

The whole inbound defending thing announcers always seem to say about us is amazing.

RedStorm45's picture

Kansas doesn't care.

RedStorm45's picture

One minute in and the CBJs are losing already.

TLB's picture

well, that wasnt a good shot

okiebuck's picture

What BS that was

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

CSAR Buckeye's picture

Wtf was that three attempt by Scott?

Baroclinicity's picture

Not really the shot we wanted...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

BME_Buckeye's picture

What the HELL was that? TY$#(P$H#V$*#UP$H#utg$#H

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

BuckeyeChief's picture

WTF?

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

okiebuck's picture

CBJ's are an NHL team in name only; unfortunitly.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

CSAR Buckeye's picture

This game deserved a better finish than that gross shot by Shannon.

d1145fresh's picture

I get that you are expecting a foul... I don't get why Thomas doesn't have the ball in his hands on your last possessions. 

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Only thing I can think of is that Scott thought they were going to foul him, so he would force it up so that he could get at least 3 FTs, or better yet, a 4 point play.  Other than that, yeah, horrible decision.

Class of 2010.

VBBuckeye's picture

Free throws! They're kind of a big deal...

RedStorm45's picture

Thad's teams never shoot free throws well.

RedStorm45's picture

This team outside of Thomas is pathetic.

RedQueenRace's picture

Gotta wonder what next year will look like when he is gone.

Baroclinicity's picture

Maybe he'll surprise us again and come back for his senior year.
(not sarcastic, but not serious, either)

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

dubjayfootball90's picture

ugh... 2nd half woes again, but this time, they basically lasted the whole game

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

JTownBuckeye's picture

Good to see the team come to comfort Scott after that heave. Win or lose, you do it as a team. Feel bad for Scott but it was a fun game to watch. MSU is a tough team to beat at home.
 

buckeye4life050233's picture

until the rest of the team that doesn't contribute on the scoreboard puts full effort 100% of the time on defense we will lose plenty more just this way.

Bucks43201's picture

I know hindsight's 20/20, but I would've felt more comfortable with Craft bringing the ball up in that pressure situation.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Bucks43201's picture

DT had me pumped up watching the game, making those faces...I wanted to get out there and dive for a loose ball, or take a charge or something

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes