PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Cool picture...should have been Thompson in space though.
B1G run starts today. Protect the home, steal a few big ones on the road
OSU has won 11 of last 14 against Illy and 4 of last 6 in Champaign
gotta weather the early storm
yeah, that loss to Purdue was bad so they are ready
Illinois switching nearly everything. OSU needs to look to post Thomas.
3 turnovers in first 7 possessions for the buckeyes.
still looking for a consistent 3rd scorer
Look at his hair disappear through those pictures
Amir still not strong enough to be physical with his rebounding.
man, we look bad
Defense playing well, but we're giving up too many offensive rebounds. Can't give Ill extra possessions.
the other team will score when you give them 3 straight possesions
one team ready, one team not
Getting beat down the floor and not blocking out. This is a recipe for getting beat on the road.
How does Craft not make a layup?
Nice play call out of that last time out. OSU needs to convert when it gets those quality looks.
Matta better get Craft off Paul or he's gonna have another 43 point night.
Big suprise ... Ohio State facing an top 15 team and shooting terrible, no shock here.
Matta's worst job since taking over. Can't believe that he couldn't put a functional team on the floor this year with all the McD's all-Americans. Sad.
it's ok to not like Thad's coaching but that statement is a little over the top
Why is it bad coaching when we lose/are losing? Maybe it's lack of execution from the players?
Unless you post how great Matta is when we win, your comment is a joke.....
Why is it wrong to think that Matta is an excellent recruiter but is not great at developing players.
Have you watched any games before today?
Evan Turner was not POY material when he got here....
Do I really need to provide more examples?
Man we are playing horrible !! Very flat!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning! GO BUCKS!!
Maybe shake up the assistants after the season?
This isn't on the coaches (except maybe recruiting-wise), we just have no scoring threats. Although it seems like we don't run much of an offense, which is on Matta.
Craft is getting eaten alive.
Our bigs are getting destroyed on the glass.
Ross looks bad today
He hasn't looked very good all season. I really think a lot of it is comfort. He knows he is only getting 5-7 minutes so either he rushes things or plays to avoid mistakes.
He just seems kind of awkward out there. Seems to be a step behind, and is very tentative with the ball in his hands.
How many times has Amir had the ball striped from his hands?? My God!! He is one of the biggest players on the court and yet he can't hold on to the ball game after game.
LaQ plays like he's terrified of being on the floor...smh
This is painful!
Sooooo many unacceptable turnovers. And then jacking up desperation threes already...
good thing they are missing
still only down 12. need to make a run to close the half
Jesus, we look terrible. And it's not bad shooting - it's bad offense. We're getting bad shots, shots that we shouldn't expect to make, and we're rightfully not making them.
3rd scorer? I am not convinced we have a consistent first and second scorer. Thompson shooting 30% every other night is not consistent...
Our team does excell in standing around and waiting for the man with the ball to do something.
What's that now? Three alley oops given up so far? Frustrating.
I think Chris was right, Kraft can't handle Paul
Only consistent offense is Thomas dribbling twice and shooting a contested shot. No motion, no picks, nothing. It's worse than the NBA out there.
Amir and Ravenell continue to disappoint
Another wide open 3
L backed off on the rotation. I'm guessing the scouting report is let that guy shoot. Either that or L made a mistake.
Watching these guys, it's like they have never played with each other
I have the all-american game thread open in another tab and when I first saw this I laughed because I thought you were talking about that game, then I cried when I realized you were talking about the basketball game...
And THAT is what I was trying to say above and got crapped on bad. I think that is on the coaching. It's not an attack. It's an observation.
Well part of the issue with this team is really the lack of consistent scorers other than Thomas, so he feels like he has to force shots. I am not sure how much of that is coaching and how much of it is lack of proper recruiting. I think the biggest issue is there hasn't been a lot of progress from early in the season and that is definitely on the coach to a certain degree.
We need a legitimate underneath threat bad. Amir is still a project, and Ravenel has peaked at a role player level. Thad had to know he was lucky to have had Sully as long as he did. Losing Parker to UCLA hurt.
The failure of Sibert to develop was a bad break that's going to cost this program this season and next. What he was supposed to be is the major thing we're lacking.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Just one of those games on the road in the B1G
There will be more
I DO like Thad, and DO post exuberantly when we win. I just said that he hasn't done a good job thus far this year with what he's had to work with. And let the downvotes begin. There are plenty of other posts on the thread about how poor we look, and none of them get bombed. We haven't looked good against ANY of the good teams on the schedule, and that's a fact. The B1G will be unforgiving if we don't vastly improve, and that's a fact. I'm not trying to be combative or a dick, I'm just frustrated in a year that looks like it may not produce any quality wins. Anyone confident about the scUM game this week? It's quite a departure from the last few years. How do you say we are not good and should maybe be better without getting downvote hammered?
Here have an upvote to balance it out a little
Also, I agree with you. The way we've played against Duke, KU, and now Illinois, we are looking at a 9-9 B1G season, and I hope people realize that. Halfway through the season and we still have nothing even resembling an identity offensively
Thank you. That is all I was trying to say. I think that we have equal or better talent than most teams in the B1G, and so far have not looked coherent at all against the better teams.
Thomas forcing everything
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Craft, get him!
This game is both Groce and gross.
This game is stupid.
Class of 2010.
Lot of restraint from the ref to not T up groce.
Lot of restraint from me not putting my foot through the television.
Leave Q out there...let him get minutes in these meaningful games. He's got the highest ceiling on the team except for maybe Deshaun. It definately takes him a little while to get in the flow but he does get it going.
If you're down by 20 does it count as a meaningful game?
Thomas still forcing
Will the voters PLEASE finally drop us out of the top 20?
at least the top 10, I think we are more like a 12-18 team
We started so high I understand why we're still there, but not for long. Matta needs to break this team down and build it back from the ground up. Can't get any worse.
out hustling us. Groce must have hammered them after the Purdue loss
There's nothing wrong with the thinking that the losses to Duke and Kansas weren't so bad because it's all about getting the team ready for the Big Ten season and March ... except that we seem to be getting worse. In fact, this is shaping up as our worst game since the day West Virginia annihilated us.
A 1-4 conference start is not unthinkable in the least.
Like I said, just one of those games
I've never seen so many Buckeye turnovers in my life. Argh.
Too much dribbling going on and not enough passing
This is not just "one of those B1G road games", we have shown absolutely no improvement from the beginning of the season (if anything, we've become worse). This does not bode well for the rest of the way
I dont know. I think Groce really wanted this one and had his team frenzied.
We'll be alright, but I think overrated all year
Can't even watch anymore...so frustrating.
They look fucking awful. Not apologizing for being honest...unreal
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
If I remember right the idea is to put the ball in the hoop correct? That seems to be a very important detail that we're missing. 27 points 4 minutes into the 2nd half? TUURRRIBLE!!
How long until the spring game again??? j/k but seriously...nothing worse than watching what you know is a pretty good basketball team just not execute and not hustle and get out played in every single aspect of a basketball game.
haha.......i thought that was going in
16th turnover doesn't help :(
16 to's already and we're not even half way through the second half. Just poor discipline.
Since when did Lenzelle turn into William Buford? So manynquick shots from him today
Smith is the only starter who is shooting 50% today. He's absolved for the most part.
26% shooting is awful. Unfotunately for this team it's not all that surprising.
Man, how good of a shooter is Paul?
Team isn't playing well enough to win, but the officiating is horrendous. OSU can't play tight man D without handcheck fouls whereas Illinois constantly has their hands all over Buckeye ballhandlers. Also the amount of travels missed during this game is crazy, for both teams.
I agree, the officiating has been pretty poor. That has been far from a major factor, though. No hustle, poor shooting, poor shot selection, lack of effort, and not taking care of the ball are the real culprits.
About halfway through the half and OSU has scored 6 points.
mike mitchell time
Thankfully I have Men's Volleyball coming up to sustain my Buckeye Fix because the basketball team isn't giving it to me!
Insert witty remark
I got hockey, but they are scoring challenged too
Will OSU beat a ranked team this year aside from MSU maybe? We clearly aren't going to beat Michigan or IU
They can beat both of them at home.
Why do I still have this game on. I am going to go eat chili and drink beer. Go texans!
Maybe a little extra on the beer part of the equation.
YESSIR... WE GOT MITCHELL... stoked, NFL playoffs have begun, time to relax, crack a 6 pack, eat some terribly awesome food, and move as little as possible
The Mitchell news helps dull the pain a bit. The beer will finish the job.
Geez. Can't watch this...going to ruin what has been a pretty damn good Saturday so far.
If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. ~ Bruce Lee
Take this team out of the top 25 and craft out of the starting lineup. Its about sending...a message.
Craft not being able to score is a huge issue, but we need him for his D
Craft has gone from All American to mundane PG... coaches are to blame, complete idiots taking an outstanding defensive specialist and a good game manager and saying ,"we are going to change your game and make you into a scorer (that you are not)"... hope Matta figures this rubix cube out, if not, teams going to be 6th or 7th in the Big 10... Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois all better teams than OSU right now...Purdue could surpass OSU at some point
Time to watch some playoffs to take my mind off of this disaster of a team
Can Sully get out of his contract with the Celts? Man I miss him. We need some kind of post presence to get the outside open.
Why is everyone hating on Craft? He's the only one not turning the ball over and playing great defense. He also has 9, which is pretty good compared to the rest of the team.
Sounds like this one of those days that I'm glad we don't have the BTN on our cable system.
"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"
rough game to watch man, It was hard. Still love every single person on this team, and March will be waiting. But right now, we gotta fix some obvious things, these turnovers gotta stop too man. But we will get better. We have to in this conference...
No doubt about that; it's a long season and we will be there in March.
Let's Go Bengals!!
What...the f**k...happened. This team is going backwards. I don't know how a team can destroy the bad teams one day and then turn around and look so bad against good teams.
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