Bucks Let Shot at Title Slip Away

By Chris Lauderback on March 31, 2012 at 11:26p
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Up 59-56 with just over two minutes left after blowing a 13 point lead, Ohio State simply failed to execute down the strech and Kansas took advantage closing on an 8-3 run to defeat the Buckeyes 64-62, earning a shot at Kentucky in Monday night's national championship. 

Kansas flat out killed the Buckeyes in the paint posting a 32-16 scoring advantage and OSU shot a miserable 24% in the 2nd half (8/33) while poor transition defense helped the Jayhawks hit on 54% of their shots in the final 20 minutes as they outscored the Buckeyes by 11 points to erase a 34-25 halftime deficit. 

William Buford led the Buckeyes with 19 points but OSU couldn't overcome a combined 8/33 shooting effort from Jared Sullinger and Deshaun Thomas. 

You have to say this young team still had an outstanding season but it's hard not to think of what might have been after watching the 2nd half collapse. 

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Dean's picture

An outstanding season, and a great tournament from our guys. Hope to see Sullinger and Thomas back next year so we can absolutely dominate, but would be happy to watch them in the NBA, too. Go Bucks, thanks for a great season!

buckeyedude's picture

Fuck it. They're gone. And so was the Buckeyes opportunity.

 
 

William's picture

This so much. I feel for Buford, he just sat on the court after the loss and I don't blame him one bit. When his last chance at college basketball was on the line he fucking showed up.

LABuckeye's picture

What the HELL were we doing in the second half? We GAVE them the game.

Michael's picture

I guess the real answer to today's poll was Deshaun Thomas.

The Vest-er's picture

Good season. Rough game to be the last one for most of this team. God I hope Kansas wins.

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

Orlando Buckeye's picture

WTF, mate?  A lane violation? We're not ready on the inbound?  I can't even be mad till I wrap my head around this crap.

RedStorm45's picture

It looked like a couple players were getting an explanation from one official when the other ref just handed the ball to KU.

Seabass1974's picture

Just a repost, I would like to say more but I am off to work.

 

Great game, shitty ending with the way the refs talking to the players while the other ref lets them inbounds.

Oh well, they went a hell of a lot further than I expected in the tourney.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Heartbroken. That is all.

Joe Beale's picture

You have to say this young team still had an outstanding season but it's hard not to think of what might have been after watching the 2nd half collapse. 

Agreed. But hey, isn't that exactly what we said last year? On the brighter side, at least we didn't end our season with a loss to Ohio. 

Chris Lauderback's picture

Last year's team wasn't young and was the actual best team in the country when looking at the overall body of work. To me, that's why last year was way tougher than this year. 

argyle182021's picture

Last year's loss was tougher to swallow for sure.

rdubs's picture

Looking at KU's players I would argue that they were better last year.  They lost 4 starters and 2 solid bench players and are now in the finals with a bunch of players that were on the team last year but didn't play all the time.  

Joe Beale's picture

It wasn't AS young, but still we had 3 freshmen in our top 7, with one a full-time starter (Sullinger) and one playing most of each game off the bench (Craft) so he might as well have been a starter. 

FortMeyer's picture

Kentucky will smash Kansas because Kansas will try to run with them. Kansas has two players that can hurt you. Kentucky by 15-20.

Rooster Buckburn's picture

Great season fella's-now bring on football

DAVE's picture

+1

Also, I look forward to Crafty, Thomas and Sully back next year. Willie B had a good run but was too inconsistent. I wish him luck.

How's Matta's recruiting class next year?

Buckeye Chuck's picture

As of now, there isn't one.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

JakeBuckeye's picture

That's 100% normal in college basketball to have a recruiting class of 1 or none every few years.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Unless you are Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.

JakeBuckeye's picture

That's because Kentucky has one and done players ever year so they need to replenish every year. Duke and UNC are headed towards that direction, but not quite.

GeneStarwind's picture

Maybe one player to get a scholarship, team is very young, depends on a number of things. Transfers and players declaring for draft (I'm looking at you Thomas and Sullinger).

buckeyefan927's picture

Bye Sully and Thomas, I hope you have fun in the NBA, you sure did great tonight. /endsarcasm

argyle182021's picture

Tough to watch the collapse in the second half - basically gave the game away.  Buford really brought it tonight.  Don't quite understand why we didn't ride our hot senior down the stretch...  Another season ends in disappointment.  Nothing new there.  Great season guys.  When's football start?

slippy's picture

Un-freaking-believable.  Thomas has to know at some point that it's just not his night.  Give up the damn ball.  Buford finally shows up and plays one hell of a game and his team lets him down.  Craft's final foul shot was one of the smartest damn plays I've ever seen.  God.  I wasn't even this frustrated after the football losses. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

Thomas' two prayers with more than 10 seconds left were a travesty to team basketball. That was perhaps the most selfish thing I've seen this season out of anybody on this team. Its a shame, but Thomas gave us a great year. You have to be with him through the ups and the downs.

hspbuy1's picture

24% shooting that 2nd half?!     Great season anyway!

hspbuy1

JakeBuckeye's picture

God bless this team, especially Willie Buford tonight.

To some of the smart asses making remarks on here right now, this team owes you nothing, yet it gave you an incredible run this year. So bug off.

BuckeyeJim's picture

I thought Buford brought senior leadership tonight. Good luck in the league WB.

TheHostileDwarf's picture

That loss stings badly. I fucking hate losing. That said, I hope Kansas beats Kentucky.

GeneStarwind's picture

Another choke job in the books for OSU, what a joke. Winning the whole entire game just to let it slip away at the end. They need to learn how to close out games and I hope Thomas and Sullinger decide to make another run at this. Tough to see Buford go out like this.

faux_maestro's picture

I hope Thomas and Sullinger decide to make another run at this.

 

I don't see it happening. Hope I'm wrong.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

kr66osu's picture

I'm shocked we even made it to the final four, but that doesn't make this loss any less disappointing. Oh well

Buckeye Chuck's picture

8 baskets in the second half: 3 three-pointers and 5 put-backs or layups. They had no intermediate offense at all. Sullinger couldn't do anything against Kansas's length (which makes you wonder what Kentucky would have done to him).

Shoot 33% in the second half instead of 25%, and don't turn a play-for-the-last-shot opportunity at the end of the first half into a layup at the other end, and no one is in here talking about the officiating. And seriously people: isn't it a little embarrassing to blame literally every Buckeye loss on the stripes?

You can't lead 9/10 of the game, and by 13 points for big chunks of the first half, and lose. Oh wait--when it comes to finding ways to lose in March, we've pretty much run the gamut.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

hspbuy1's picture

Thanks for the correction,my bad!

hspbuy1

Bj Mullens over Sully's picture

I know this loss hurts, but seriously, a Final 4 is a Final 4, and this season was terrific and a heck of a lot of fun to watch, this team needs to be given credit from how far they've come after lossing 3 of 5 games. 

Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens

BuckeyeChief's picture

I don't even know where to start. The ending disgusted me, yet another loss by 2/3 points to a team we should've beat. Willie B showed up big time, and I'm gonna be disgusted for a while over this one. 1 for 11 in final four trips. When does it fucking end?

 

Is there any way for Kentucky to win by 40 and Calipari to have a heart attack before the game?

 

 

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

Ohio1St81's picture

I'm proud of how far they made it but ultimately what I remember about this team will be the consistent failure to close out games. Such a waste. Fool me once, twice, every goddamn time, you'd think they would have seen this coming, God knows we all did. 

P-Rickles's picture

I liked that we played "Throw the ball into the paint so the big white guy could get a million blocks instead of kicking it back out to the open man at the top of the key" for the last 10 minutes. That was a real barrel of monkeys. Nightmare. Well, good season, anyway. Spring Practice! Woo!

Brandt can't watch, though, or he has to pay $100.

madhatterhater's picture

When Sully would look to pass no one was around to give it too.

go bucks

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Would love to see DT and Sully back.  Would also have loved to win Mega Millions last night.  Not much chance of either.

Thanks for the run guys.  It was a roller coaster ride.  Wish we could do it again next year.

 

OhioKris's picture

we're gonna have to wait 3 years by my estaimation for another shot at a title run. 

A Senior Craft lead team. 

madhatterhater's picture

Plus in three years Cal will be under investigation. I kid

go bucks

faux_maestro's picture

Don't kid, it will probably happen. He's taken 3 programs to Final Fours and in the previous 2 they have been vacated.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

BuckeyeChris's picture

Take Kentucky and the 35 on Monday. Won't be worth watching. 

 

Attn: Elevenwarriors Staff: 100% football coverage starting.........now!

Wake me in September. 

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Why the hell were we running a play for DT at the end?!? (that he fumbled and turned into a runout at the other end)

Buford.  He's been hot.  Give the senior the ball, coach.

madhatterhater's picture

On the bright side I don't have to use any sick time Monday.

go bucks

741's picture

And I will not need to get arrested for rioting and burning couches tonight. That would have been embarassing.

btalbert25's picture

"Young" teams these days aren't really that young.  This isn't the old days where Freshman sit the bench.  By the time a kid like Sullinger, Craft, Davis, Gilchrest etc get to college they've played several hundred high pressure games on big stages against elite talent.  The "kids" today aren't the same as they were 25 years ago. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

We're losing either Sully or Thomas or both. I think its realistic to say one will be convinced to stay.

741's picture

I'd love to see DT back one more year!

buckeyefan927's picture

I think if either stay it will be Sully, which i'm fine with since he can move to the 4, while Williams can play the 5

Irricoir's picture

I am very disappointed about tonight. Maybe the way they lost this game will give the sophomores a taste of what could have been and they'll return next year with more experience and enthusiasm throughout the game. I could tell when they were walking to the locker room that our team was tired, minus Craft. This same team minus Buford and Ravenel would do wonders next year. I hate that we lost this game especially after playing the way we did the first half.

I want to remind you guys that we all can be disappointed but the hateful comments need to be ommitted. I am proud of these guys and their effort throughout this tournament. We had weaknesses that I thought would have been exploited before now, but these guys played hard. I am thankful for their service and I have been entertained. I wish for that championship as much as anyone else but let's show some support for these fellas. I can tell they really wanted it.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

CRAFTFORTHESTEAL's picture

Kansas has won all there games in the last few minutes, Kentucky will crush them. The Buckeyes, gave them that game. I just dont understand what happened in the locker room, how we start with such a bang, and than fizzle. The defense wasnt there, and no one besides wait for it...Buford could hit anything, and what happened to Smith? Dissapointing, but still very proud of the Bucks, they made a real run for it. Kansas does not stand a chance, GO WILDCATS!

Pay It Forward!

argyle182021's picture

I think Smith contributed.  He only averaged six points a game during the regular season.  He certainly stepped up the last couple of games but played strong tonight.  Hit 2-5 from three and 4-4 from the line for 10 points (one more point than Thomas on NINE less shots).  He also grabbed four rebounds and had a couple of assists.  Definitely not an embarrassing effort for Lenzelle.  

Bucks43201's picture

time to go drink and puke out this loss

next season, boys

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Another season down, and my name remains unchanged.  I would love to be a satisfiedbuckeye someday.

William's picture

Give Meyer two years.

JakeBuckeye's picture

You would have comitted suicide by now if you were a fan of most other programs.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Lol.. nice post, but true.

Way too many ungrateful, couch-potato wretches here who live their lives a bit too vicariously through young athletes.

highwire's picture

Rabble, rabble, rabble...let's stop and realize three things:

1) Willie Buford did exactly what we wanted...good luck to one of the greatest Buckeyes moving foward.

 

2) Aaron (expletive) Craft is ours for two more years.

 

3) Urban Meyer.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

I hope AC's effort and determination will diffuse through the team.  It will hurt to see him lose in the tournament for two more years.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Only in my Buckeye fan life.  Tell me how to not be.

I inherited it from a father who talks about driving out to southern california only to watch Jim Plunkett break his heart.

I cried watching Tai Streets streaking for a touchdown. 

Tshimaga kicked me in the balls.

Pube hair and Florida killed me twice in one year

The mad hatter made me sick.

Hopefully Urban can redeem himself and  make it up to me!

highwire's picture

You're blessed to have Ohio State...don't complain about it.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Its pretty easy not to be. WE HAVE THE GREATEST ATHLETICS PROGRAM IN AMERICA. All I have to say is get off your spoiled ass and start appreciating what you have. Its a blessing to be a part of Ohio State. Its not a right.

rdubs's picture

If OSU makes two more final fours in his remaining years that would be amazing not disappointing

MVJ's picture

Seriously. Overall, this season was a success. 4 weeks ago, I never would have believed this team could be 2 minutes away from the NCG. Come November, we'll have a nice new Final Four banner hanging in the Schott, Aaron Craft will be Aaron Craft, and Ryan Shazier will be killing fools who run across the middle. Proud to be a Buckeye, now and forever!

"You win with people "

highwire's picture

Ryan Shazier, if he sticks around for four years, will be known as the greatest linebacker to ever play at the greatest university. It's a bold statement, but, barring injury, I have little doubt...he's a beast.

highwire's picture

This is absurd...one month ago we were saying sweet 16 at best...this team exceeds expectations and still gets shit on...ungrateful fans ruin the game.

LABuckeye's picture

Goes with the territory, I think. I get disappointed with our fanbase sometimes, too, but it could be worse... imagine if we were Notre Dame fans.

highwire's picture

We have the greatest college fanbase...and that isn't the bias speaking...I've been all over the U.S. and have been pleasantly surprised by the support...but, some folks go overboard. They dissect this and that, all the while forgetting that they are trashing kids.

AJ's picture

We were voted as having one of the top 5 most annoying fan bases.

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

highwire's picture

There is bias in that. People get sick of hearing about us.

AJ's picture

People get sick of hearing FROM us...not about us.

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

highwire's picture

Possibly...but, that's what happens with such a large fanbase (the largest fanbase).

Ohio1St81's picture

We're just frustrated to see such a great opportunity slip away because of mistakes that have already been made before. We're frustrated and we have a right to be. We'll still come back tomorrow and root for the Buckeyes but we all know what was lost tonight and in January 2007 and in April 2007 and in January 2008 and in March 2009 and in March 2010 and an hour ago and it sucks. 

highwire's picture

You have the right to nothing...you sit on your couch and complain about kids with more talent than you. Enjoy the game, but grow up.

Ohio1St81's picture

I disagree, I think we put in emotion and support and have a right to be frustrated, just as the team put in skill and effort and have a right to be frustrated. I still support these teams and always will, but knowing they did their best is little help on nights like these. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

LOL at equating emotion and support with skill and effort when it comes to this program. That is everything wrong with this fan base.

BuckeyeJim's picture

Remember, you are part of it.

Ohio1St81's picture

I'm not equating it, I'm saying it gives me the right to be frustrated right now. I'm supremely jealous of you for never feeling like you got kicked in the gut after a loss even though you aren't on the team. I wish I could avoid that feeling. If disappointment is what is wrong with our fan base then congratulations to both of the real fans who don't feel any kind of sting tonight. 

highwire's picture

We don't need to be getting upset with one another...we're all Buckeyes. But, instead of complaining, let's enjoy being such a great program. The worst part is, while we're circle-jerking, William Buford, an all-time great, is coming to terms with the fact that he just played his last game in scarlet and grey...and we're dissapointed?

TheHostileDwarf's picture

This is just as obnoxious as what you're complaining about.

Ohio1St81's picture

All right, let's bury the hatchet. Another sleepless night but another great group of guys to be proud of. Go Buckeyes. 

TheHostileDwarf's picture

The comment you replied to was aimed at Highwire, not you. My disagreement with you is merely one of degree and I figured we cleared that up below. I think fans can take it too far, but I'm annoyed with this bullshit that implies that fans are not able to feel the same level of frustration as the players after losing because these "kids [have] more talent than [we do]" as if to imply we're not allowed or permitted (no one said anything about "rights") to feel disappointed when our [school's] teams lose. I'm not trying to attack anymore, but I simply can't get my head around where some people are coming from on this. I DO understand when people defend these kids from unwarranted attacks, but I do NOT understand when people try to tell me how I should feel after a loss or that I should "grow up" if I don't react the same way they do. Fuck that.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

EXACTLY!

I haven't said much to rip the players except to say that I'm dissapointed and frustrated.  What's wrong with that?

Should I be whistling a happy tune about how great it is to make the final four?  How about last year should I have said how awesome it is to make the sweet 16?

 

Ohio1St81's picture

Thank you, agreed, I've invested a lot of time and sleepless nights in this great university and when it loses, I lose. 

Ohio1St81's picture

All right, my sorrows are drying out a bit, so time to go drown them some more. Go Buckeyes. Let's all just agree that Ken Dorsey getting sacked on 4th and 2 was amazing and indescribable. 

highwire's picture

You are certainly permitted to be a fan. But, to live vicariously though kids that you do not even know on a personal level, and insult them, is immature.

highwire's picture

Also, are you seriously comparing your level of frustration to that of the players? You've got to be kidding me...as if your life and legacy is at stake like theirs? GROW UP.

Ohio1St81's picture

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I do actually attempt to live vicariously through one of them or insult one of them. I'm frustrated. That's it. Relax. So is everyone else. We all watched the game and we all saw missed opportunities. We never said we, personally, would have taken advantage of them. All we're saying is we saw them, and it hurts. 

TheHostileDwarf's picture

I don't even know what you're talking about. "Living vicariously" through them? I'm an alumni. College sports is the one area in sports where the primary (not only) concern is the name on the front of jersey, not the name on the back. I don't even know what the hell you're talking about when you say shit like "liv[ing[ vicariously" through these kids. You're certainly not talking about anything I've actually done, just accusations that you like to make that you believe sound compelling.

As to your other comments, perhaps you should take your own advice and grow up yourself.

highwire's picture

I'll keep that in mind while I'm supporting the Buckeyes through thick and thin, whether they come out on top or not. I would love to see some of the negative types play the game.

Ohio1St81's picture

We're clearly not going to agree here. To me, feeling bad that we lost is not the same thing as personally attacking players and proclaiming myself as an appropriate sub for Jared when he picks up a foul. Which I did not do. Like I said, I genuinely am jealous that you do not feel any sense of "too bad, what if" after this game. 

highwire's picture

We're not, and that's fine. We're still Bucks, and I'd sure as hell still give you a high-five at the game. A difference in opinion is something to debate, but it really doesn't mean that much when we're all pulling for the good guys. Let's just have faith...lastly, if I offended you, that was not my intention...I'm all for my fellow Buckeyes...we are all different, but still the same. O-H!

BuckeyeCrew's picture

No one is telling the more reasonable Buckeye fans, such as yourself, "how to feel".  Don't twist words.

The idea that I, among others, are relaying is this crap sentiment that the coaches/players are losers, because they didn't win a championship for those overly obsessed, overly critical couch-potato, wing-eating lardass Buckeyefans who seem to think that it's always "all or nothing".

The people who have such ideas, are absurd with their expectations, only because (it seems as if) their very existence (or at least, contentment) depends on the Buckeyes winning and losing.   

TheHostileDwarf's picture

I agree with everything you said except for the claim that I'm twisting Highwire's words. When one says something like, "You have the right to nothing...you sit on your couch and complain about kids with more talent than you," he's clearly taking things too far in the opposite direction.

highwire's picture

Do you play the game or watch it? That's the point...hold your criticism.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Thank you! You are exactly right. I can't believe how critical so many here are, and this is supposed to be a site with more "reasonable" Buckeye fans.

Damn, we are a bunch of bastards sometimes.

NCBuck1's picture

Hate this loss. I agree with jake. This team had a great run. I can't wait for next year to see what our team has to offer. Great season buckeyes! I am so proud of our team.

frozen buckeye's picture

on a positive note, I don't have to look at that uni-brow led goon squad on monday.  

JozyMozy's picture

SO MUCH THIS

 

honestly, that was the biggest thing I was dreading about playing kentucky. Looking at Anthony Davis makes me so, so uncomfortable. DODGED A BULLET THERE, GUYS

741's picture

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frozen buckeye's picture

superdome sucks!  Hope coach matta & the team make it outta there without further incident

Moses Cleveland's picture

I am very disappointed that we lost this game; especially at how we let a 13 point lead turn into a 2 point loss.

But to be honest, I thought we’d lose the next game to UK, no matter how well we played, because they’re basically an NBA team.

So I am at peace with this turnout. The Buckeyes did us all proud by making it to the Final Four. Props to William Buford for playing his best game in the tournament – I will miss #44, as well as any other player that declares for the NBA draft. Go Bucks.
 

Ohio1St81's picture

I started at OSU as a freshman in 2006 and graduated last year. Think about what we have seen since then. Close is not good enough anymore. I'm sorry I know everyone is trying to stay upbeat but I've done that for six years and it's not good enough anymore. There is no difference between second place and last place anymore. I admire anyone who can still see the silver lining here because I can't. I'm so frustrated about the loss but maybe even more frustrated that this feeling is so familiar. 

frustratedbuckeye's picture

At least this year doesn't feel as bad as last year.  I wasn't really expecting even a final four run this year.

That was the best "team" we've had.  How they managed to not win it all will continue to amaze me. 

buckeyedude's picture

I'm not a hater. I love the Buckeyes.

I hate that we don't have that KILLER MUTHA F#$@KING INSTINCT.

Where is General Sherman when we need him?

 
 

TheHostileDwarf's picture

I know it sucks. I hate losing. HATE IT. At any level. But six years? You're clearly not from Cleveland. :)

What made the NCG so sweet (for me personally) in 2002-2003 was years, DECADES, of losing.

Trust me: the suffering of individual losses makes winning that much better when it occurs. As OSU fans, we've been spoiled. The turmoil of Tressel leaving and the 6-7 football season last year has hopefully reset some of our expectations.

Do we expect to compete for national championships in football and basketball? Of course. But this team was not a failure, even if it sucks tonight.

Ohio1St81's picture

I know, I know... and I'm from Akron, and I'm a Cleveland sports fan and I remember the 1995 and 1997 World Series, but it just hasn't gotten any easier. I'll get over it tomorrow but this half drunk damn-we-were-so-close kind of night is just a shitty ritual to go through every year. 

TheHostileDwarf's picture

I hear you, man. I hear you.

BlockOHBuckeye's picture

Matta's staple for an ultimate choke job.

William's picture

Because Matta is the guy out there missing uncontested threes and lay-ups, or is allowing for easy drives up the lane? Give me a break, he's a hell of a coach and I wouldn't want anyone else to coach at OSU.

LABuckeye's picture

I agree. Our previous record number of wins in a season before him was 27 and he averages 27.6 wins a season... where does the hate for Matta come from? I don't get it.

madhatterhater's picture

Matta got this team back from a late season wreck, but I guess everyone has forgotten about that.

go bucks

BuckeyeCrew's picture

What an ingorant comment. 

If you think Thad Matta is such a bad coach, then I suggest you post examples of your own excellence in whatever field you operate.  Compare them to Thad's accomplishments.

Then stick your head in a toilet, and flush. It might wake you from your D.O.G.

Baroclinicity's picture

I am in such a foul mood I can't believe it.

 

Great run though. Go Bucks!

NCBuck1's picture

Nothing a undefeated, bowl banned football season won't fix.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Too bad you didn't use up your entitlement eligibility.

Thank you Buckeyes. Appreciate all the hard work.

Sad to see Willie B go, best of luck bro. Shoot with confidence and you will be a star.

Go Bucks.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

onetwentyeight's picture

FWIW I feel a sense of depraved relief because we won't lose our fourth straight National Championship game to a SEC team (really, was anybody honestly prepared for the fallout from THAT?) 

The Unibrow would've made short work of Sully and that's just an unbiased, self-evident basketball fact. 

It's better this way. Less pain.... 

 

/thousand mile stare

CRAFTFORTHESTEAL's picture

I HATE KU like I hate Wisco, but it would have been a nightmare losing to an SEC school like the previous two seasons! Well put sir!

Pay It Forward!

buckeyedude's picture

So what if, by some frickin' miracle, Kansas beats the Wildpussy's? Then we'll say, "Damn! That should have been the Buckeyes." I don't feel relief at all. I feel PISSED OFF. And I don't know why. I didn't play.

No. I don't hate anyone. Especially the Buckeyes.  I love these guys. I just feel they underperformed yet again. I hope Kensuckit beats them, but I won't be watching.

I hope to God that Craft can get a National Championship at some point, because the kid works harder than anyone I've ever watched for the Buckeye b-ballers.

And I feel bad for WB.  

 
 

CRAFTFORTHESTEAL's picture

kansas wont beat kentucky, they dont have the offense to beat kentucky. And of course it hurts, but the fact they got to the final four is a win for BuckeyeNation. This team needs Amir to evolve, they need him to be a starter next year. With his size and ability with Sully playing the PF, they could be a force like Davis and Jones. We have guards in Smith and Craft, the young guys will get better. This year wasnt supposed to be a Final Four year, but if Sully and Thomas stay, which both would benifit, next season could be exciting!

Pay It Forward!

faux_maestro's picture

With Amir (assuming he improves) and Sullinger AND Thomas AND Craft this team could be unbelievable. But I think Sullinger and Thomas are gone.

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buckeyedude's picture

I think Amir is going to be good, but next year is a regroup and rebuilding year for this team, without Sully and Thomas.

 
 

FortMeyer's picture

Anybody really think Thomas is NBA material right now? I don't and think he would make a huge mistake to leave.

madhatterhater's picture

I don't really know much about b-ball, but I do know some team will probably pay him plenty of money. Defense is not a real big issue in the NBA.

go bucks

FortMeyer's picture

Just don't think he understands the game at a higher level. Tonight is a prime example.

TheHostileDwarf's picture

Honestly, although I'll admit it's perhaps the selfishness speaking, I think Thomas and Sully would both benefit from another year of seasoning...

BuckeyeJim's picture

I think Mariotti needs to work with this team. They need toughness and endurance.

CRAFTFORTHESTEAL's picture

Hope Sully and Thomas commit to staying one more year, I know Sully wants a Ring! And I PRAY Thad plays Sully PF and puts Amir in at C. We need another big guy. If he can be Lauderdale, and we get better play from Smith, the Bucks could be a MONSTER next year. Ravenel does not need that much playing time, he really dosent do anything productive.

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FortMeyer's picture

Did Sully come out at all?

741's picture

He played 39 minutes. (Probably too many minutes to haul around all that ass.)

FortMeyer's picture

Thought he looked very tired in 2nd half.

btalbert25's picture

Ya know, I'm kind of tired of hearing Thad lost the game too.  Seriously, the team made 8 baskets in the 2nd half.  Make 10 and you win.  That basically means shooting what 28? 30 percent.  As bad as the 2nd half was, if this team makes to more baskets, they win.  Horrendous shooting lost them this game.  Shoot 35 percent and you win by 8 points. 

madhatterhater's picture

I blame it on the Dome.

go bucks

btalbert25's picture

but they came out on fire

 

Jason Priestas's picture

Oh well, at least the universe gave us this.

FortMeyer's picture

That is kind of scary....haunting...especially after tonight.

RedStorm45's picture

I loved the sarcastic look Craft had in every clip he was in...like really, we have to do this...ok I'm going to do something ridiculous.

741's picture

Thank you - I am actually LOL'ing as we speak.

old_rasputin's picture

This is the stuff of hilarious nightmares.

"We hate to lose, but when we do, rest assured we'll be back, and someone will pay the price." Coach Hayes

RedStorm45's picture

My God, that was the worst choke job I've ever seen in the final 4.  I can't even explain.

How do you start 1-11 coming out of halftime? What the eff?

We should have been up 15 or more at half, but we didn't put our foot on their throat.

 

Sullinger is not as good as everyone thinks he is.  He dominates 6'9'' and under defenders.  He can't deal with length whatsoever.

Tank? Da hell was that?

As much as we like Craft, he got rejected 3 or 4 times in the lane by Withey.  Teardrop??

 

That was horrible.  Up 55-49.  13 point leads that never expanded or were sustained.  Horrible shooting.  Lack of hustle to stop KU's transition game in the 2nd half.  Dumb turnovers.  Lack of rebounding.  Buford finally showed up in a tournament game and Sully and Thomas pulled their best Buford impressions (Buford of the last 2-3 weeks at least).  

And to think as of now we have no help coming in the way of recruits for next year.  It's going to be a long year next season.

BlockOHBuckeye's picture

I agree with you. Matta has some stupid ass philosophy for playing players that don't need to be playing! Why does he have Ravioli in there? The guy just takes up space and doesn't do sh!t! He doesn't score, he doesn't rebound, he doesn't block, he doesn't do sh!t! Why not put Amir and KEEP Amir in there to match up with Kansas' bigs?

You have a 13 point lead and you blow it; that is coaching. This is Matta's staple of a choke job. 2 years in a row he's had the best team and he couldn't get it done. He's the Marv Levy of college basketball.

buckeyedude's picture

I don't blame any of this loss on Craft getting rejected on drives to the layup. The kid was giving 110% the whole game, as he does every game. WB and Craft, I give an A to for this game, but the rest of team and the coaching staff, a D.

So last year it was Lighty and Diebler thinking,"Damn, what could have been." This year it's Willie B's turn.

I'm not ready for football. Think I need a timeout from sports, since "I live my life vicariously through some college kids".

 
 

coloradobuckeye's picture

Exciting year. Final four was a bonus.

One national championship between football and basketball in the past 40 years, and how many close calls? That part is getting old.

Another thought, Sully is not ready for the NBA.

Let your hobbies and interests supplement your life, not be the main course.

LadyBuck's picture

Since leaving the superdome, I've decided that I'm happy with this team. We were overranked at the beginning of the year, and a month ago, none of us thought that we were going to get to the sweet sixteen, let alone the final four. Almost everyone doubted this team in some way or another. We couldn't score. We couldn't defend. No one was passing to each other. They played selfishly. We were too young. Wer weren't tough enough. We weren't big enough. We weren't fast enough.

You know what? This team, since the start of this month, has us more heart and clutch and hustle and toughness than we ever knew they really possessed. They beat a lot of very good teams. Today wasn't our day, be it the refs, the calls, the shots, whatever.

Just because we didn't do as well as we wanted to, we decide to throw this team, and their hard work, under the bus. That is wrong. This loss will sting for a bit, but it will fade. We got to see two excellent teams and two of the best coaches in the business clash head to head in a hard fought 40 minute battle. The best part is one of those teams is ours, and one of those coaches belongs to us.

I'm not happy with this loss. I'm disappointed, but I'm not ungrateful or blind. Today wasn't our day, but we never gave up, we never layed down, and those men out there on that court did everything they could, played their hearts out, and they will be the ones to really feel the sting, the stab, after ours have numbed.

I'm proud to be a Buckeye, even after this loss. Kansas was the better team to them. Hats off to them for making the plays, and for Coach Self, for coaching one hell of a game.

Good night, and Go Bucks

(*not targeting anyone in particular, just venting*)

madhatterhater's picture

That possession at the end of the half was really a momentum changer, plus the two points were huge.

go bucks

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Yes, it would be easier to be a fan of a sucky team where a winning record or a win over a big rival would make a season.  Maybe I am spoiled.

But I'm also a fan of a school that has a history of excellence.  I expect that excellence to continue.  I'm sure the team isn't satisfied with how their season ended up.

 

Why should I be?

741's picture

Because you are an observer, not a participant.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Yup, and an observer that, if he's like most of our fan base, doesn't give a flying fuck about basketball until February/March and then complains when a great run comes to an end.

William's picture

But I sit on my couch and swear that I know what plays Matta should run, and I know when guys aren't giving their all, and gosh darnit I bought this "official" nike OSU jersey and that entitles me to a damn championship. 

JakeBuckeye's picture

Hahaha. Thank you for that Will. You're (accurate) sarcasm gave me a genuine chuckle.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Hahaha. Thank you for that Will. Your (accurate) sarcasm gave me a genuine chuckle.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Lol..you forgot to add that he could have also jumped into the game at any time, and scored.  In fact, I am sure he would have.. given the chance.. stolen the inbound pass with 2.9s left, and performed at 360 jam where he actually dunked the ball with his ass-cheek, to take it into overtime.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

Fuck you jake.  I will complain about whatever I want to.  I've watched every game for the last 10 years (except when I couldn't because I was on an aircraft carrier in the persian gulf) and cheer for these kids as hard as anyone else.  I'm not going to be satisfied without a championship.  I'm not going to apologize for that.

I bet you are the kind of person that thinks everyone should get a ribbon.  No winners, no losers.  Everyone gets a trophy.

William's picture

C'mon chill. We're all buckeyes, we're all upset about this, don't say such things.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Fuck you jake.

This is everything I need to know about you. Especially because this is the internet. Stay classy and spoiled, friend.

But you'd think a man that says he spent time in the military would have better perspective and not let college athletics lead him to be so bitter and cynical. I mean, to hear some of you wine about your Buckeye tragedies is nothing short of pathetic. I love this team. I love this athletics program. I love this university. This institution has given me an inconceivable amount of amazing times. When I am watching Ohio State football or basketball or any sport I am having a hell of a time. The good nights far outweigh the bad nights (If I'd get mathmatic I'd say its about 90% to 10%) when you are an Ohio State Buckeye and I love that. Its a shame so many of you associate your bitterness with Ohio State. I cannot even fathom that. This place is such a blessing to me.

CALPOPPY's picture

Yep.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

madhatterhater's picture

Great reply!

go bucks

CRAFTFORTHESTEAL's picture

Ditto, hate when people can ride the wins, but cant take the loses, its part of it. What other team outside of Florida has had this much success. Ohio St is the tops of College Sports! Everyone hates Ohio St because all they do is win.

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LadyBuck's picture

Since leaving the superdome, I've decided that I'm happy with this team. We were overranked at the beginning of the year, and a month ago, none of us thought that we were going to get to the sweet sixteen, let alone the final four. Almost everyone doubted this team in some way or another. We couldn't score. We couldn't defend. No one was passing to each other. They played selfishly. We were too young. Wer weren't tough enough. We weren't big enough. We weren't fast enough.

You know what? This team, since the start of this month, has us more heart and clutch and hustle and toughness than we ever knew they really possessed. They beat a lot of very good teams. Today wasn't our day, be it the refs, the calls, the shots, whatever. 

Just because we didn't do as well as we wanted to, we decide to throw this team, and their hard work, under the bus. That is wrong. This loss will sting for a bit, but it will fade. We got to see two excellent teams and two of the best coaches in the business clash head to head in a hard fought 40 minute battle. The best part is one of those teams is ours, and one of those coaches belongs to us. 

I'm not happy with this loss. I'm disappointed, but I'm not ungrateful or blind. Today wasn't our day, but we never gave up, we never layed down, and those men out there on that court did everything they could, played their hearts out, and they will be the ones to really feel the sting, the stab, after ours have numbed.

I'm proud to be a Buckeye, even after this loss. Kansas was the better team to them. Hats off to them for making the plays, and for Coach Self, for coaching one hell of a game.

Good night, and Go Bucks

(*not targeting anyone in particular, just venting*)

RedStorm45's picture

11 final 4's and 1 national title.  Our winning % in final 4's is awful.

BuckeyeJim's picture

That sounds great to make it that far that many times.

RedStorm45's picture

Our national title % to final 4 appearance should be better than 10%.

BuckeyeJim's picture

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda - OSU kicked a lot of asses and won the B1G many times in the process.

BuckeyeJim's picture

Thomas is gone. There is a slight chance Sully stays 1more IMO.

frustratedbuckeye's picture

WB is grinnin at the presser!  I kind of like it.  It is just a game fellas.

RedStorm45's picture

12-44 from Craft, Sullinger, and Thomas.  Needed 1 to show up and didn't.  "Leaders" needed to give something more.

Moses Cleveland's picture

Ohio is the best state ever.

 

I'll drink to that!

madhatterhater's picture

I think Sam Thompson should have seen some time in the 2nd half.

go bucks

RedStorm45's picture

His blocks were flat out ridiculous.

RedStorm45's picture

Was there any shot that Kansas couldn't get in the 2nd half? That was pathetic.

RedStorm45's picture

Buford should have taken more shots down the stretch.  Only guy who had his shot going.  He takes 10 (makes 6), Sully takes 19 (makes 5), and Tank takes 14 (makes 3).  Did they forget who had the hot hand?

RedStorm45's picture

Can Sullinger dunk? I'm sick of his lay-up crap - he had at least 2 weak lay-ups rejected.  You're 6'9''.  Take one more dribble and throw it down.

The Vest-er's picture

As Greg Oden once said,"It's just game. Stop cryin' like a lil' bitch." Of course he can say things like this because he's Greg Oden and has a massive Wang.

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

buckeyedude's picture

LOL. You're right.  But how do you know for sure Oden has a massive Wang? Just because he has big feet?

Plus, he makes his Benjamin's now, win or lose. Which leads me to think: why do professional sports players and coaches still make millions, even when they lose, and lose a lot? I mean, even the worst players and worst coaches in the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL still make tons when losing.

 

 
 

faux_maestro's picture

But how do you know for sure Oden has a massive Wang? Just because he has big feet?

 

Have you not seen the pictures?

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Emily's picture

Well, a disappointing ending. A final four appearance is good, but it sucks to look at what could have been.

Is it football season yet?

andretolstoy's picture

I had no idea we were favored but cheers anyways young lads. What I could use now is a pump-youtube-vid for the upcoming football season.

RedStorm45's picture

Damn it, choke job in the FF and we don't even get a bowl game next season.

BuckeyeChief's picture

Well, a lot of thought went into this; I am happy about the turn around, no doubt...but I can't help but feel they could've done it all. (Yes, that part is getting old).

Sully needs to stay...he's not ready. He needs to play above the rim more/ get more elevation, and develop more post moves; it seems like there were times he shoulda went left or right and didn't...he also needs to handle the ball smoother...if he improves and DT comes back, watch out.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Sully is a fantastic player (smart and STRONG) and great kid.  However.. (and I hope I don't get knocked too much for this) I am not sure he is an excellent athlete; I think he is just "good", wherever that word ranks on your scale.

People want him to play "above the rim", and I truly don't believe he can play any "higher" than he is right now, even if he were to lose any more weight.  I could be wrong, but it's not his body-type.

Of course, none of that means he can't be an even better player.  Athletically, he is quick for a guy his size, very strong, and has already developed good footwork.  Areas he needs to work on now are his dribbling skills and medium-long range shooting. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

I am saying this specifically: Try and dunk instead of layups...

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

BuckeyeCrew's picture

I get what you're saying Chief.  Unfortunately, on this occasions where most fans (I know of) think he should dunk, would most likely end up in a block.  He's not too explosive (and without the "hops", as mentioned before), so that's why I think he goes for layups. 

There is also the factor of his fitness (or lack thereof).  Do you remember, in the second half of the Kansas game where he was on the right side of the basket, had an opening to drive and dunk/layup?  He seemed to run out of gas mid-step, and didn't seem to have the energy to take the extra step to dunk, and missed what I can only call, a "long-range layup". 

I know he has lost weight, but I'll say it here: He needs to lose even more, and undergo a nutrition regimen during the season that completely cuts-out junk food.  It's not good enough to weigh less; any serious athlete knows that what one eats absolutely affects performance on the court/field.  100 calories from a damn twinkie is NOT the same as 100 calories from some lean fish. (May be obvious to most, but some don't believe that)

RedStorm45's picture

Thank you.  And that goes for the entire team.  So many missed/blocked lay-ups.  Outside of Craft, everyone should be throwing it down inside of 3 feet.

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Give me a break; it may look easy to do so on TV, or Xbox360, but my guess is that dunking over guys as big/athletic if not more so, is a LOT harder than just thinking, "I'm going to do it".  Kansas wasn't a small team.

JakeBuckeye's picture

THANK YOU!

I have a lot of respect for Buckeye Cheif and won't ever call him out, but some of these other posters need a better understanding for basketball!