NCAA Decision Comes Today at 3PM
You first heard something bad might happen with Ohio State football last December 21 during Sugar Bowl preparations. Then that something bad was confirmed December 23.
Today, December 20 - almost a full year later - Ohio State will learn of the NCAA's final verdict on Tatgate as well as the Bobby DiGeronimo affair. The university will learn of the decision at 3pm EST.
The NCAA could accept or add to Ohio State's self-punishment, which included Jim Tressel's resignation, two years of probation, five reduced scholarships, vacating the entire 2010 season and forfeiting its Big Ten bowl payout share, or roughly $338,000.
Ohio State has two options once the verdict is announced: Accept or appeal. Gene Smith has said that Ohio State is prepared to accept whatever the NCAA hands down.
Enjoy the next six hours.
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That last line made me laugh out loud because that's exactly what I was thinking. I figured I wasn't alone, thanks for the assurance.
/drinks gallon of bleach
Hey, if the little gray box promts us to drink a little bleach, that's still better than what eSECpn et al wanted to jam down our throats . . . Hemlock.
Will 11W and/or other blogs/media outlets be able to report on the verdict immediately at 3 pm, or will there be lag between Ohio State being notified and the verdict being publicly announced?
I don't anticipate a lag. We'll have the full story ASAP.
Thanks.
This is the first site I will visit at 3 pm, because 11W is the best, but also because I'd rather hear potentially bad news from a family member (metaphorically speaking).
I could not agree more. This site has been my best friend since I found it two months ago. Whether good or bad, I want to hear it here.
Thank you 11W
If I just hit F5 enough, it'll be 3pm, right?
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you and i are thinking along the same lines. F5..... F5... F5... hey, it's minute later than when i started!
Show them Ohio's here!
Well... it's my birthday, so the NCAA better cooperate with making it a good one.
Well, if it isn't a great decision ... OSU can add your birthday to the appeal ;)
Either way, hope you have a good one.
Why, Thank you... maybe they can add Christmas and Hanukkah to the list too for an appeal
If everything goes okay today, we should write a Tatgate version of the Grinch Who Stole Christmas. At the beginning of the story, Whoville is all gleeful as usual, but then the grinches steal presents and threaten to ruin the glad tidings. At the last minute, the grinches have a change of heart and Whoville celebrates its most wondorous Christmas yet.
I hope this goes well. Or as well as can be expected.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Regardless of the annoucement, it will be over. I hope.
It's nice how we got Christmas bookends for this thing.
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
No matter what comes, I'll just be happy it is all wrapped up & done with. '02 was the longest football season I have ever experienced, in a good way. This has been the longest, in a bad way.
Just like people said, that last line made me laugh. Any new rumblings or are people still thinking it will be what OSU expects?
Do you think there will be any pre-announcement information, via anonymous sources with information about the decision? Seem like there always is before any big announcement in the news.
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"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." ~Woody Hayes~
I thought Gene Smith said they would appeal a bowl ban. When did they change their mind?
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
There were two Genes: One that talked about Ohio State's expectations before the Bobby DiGeronimo stuff surfaced, and the other one. The gray box of doom above refers to the latter.
Where is Brutus when we need him? HA!
-The Aristocrats!
How true!! He should be standing behind the podium when it is announced.
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"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." ~Woody Hayes~
I don't think we will get hammered, but there is always that cautious optimism. My biggest concern is that if the NCAA does come down with something other than what is expected. I would absolutely hate losing recruits because of it. Especially the ones we have just gotten commitments from. The suspense is killing me!!
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"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." ~Woody Hayes~
I agree. They were told that nothing else was coming down, so will they bolt if there is?
The length of this process gives pause to concern. Optimism is a necessity at this point. You guys know that feeling you got when you were a kid, waiting to see if Santa thought you were a good boy or girl? Yeah, this is kind of the opposite.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
The Night Before the Tatgate Verdict is a little different, though, because some of the more influential parents are thinking that maybe North Pole, Inc. has outlived its usefulness and maybe ought to be replaced by a new workshop. Santa can check his list twice, but he also needs to check himself, lest he find some coal in his own stocking.
Barring any appeal, I'm just glad this will finally be over with.
^^This. Although, I will say there are going to be a lot of angry people either way. It will either be us or everyone else calling for tOSU to get the death penalty.
It's true... We really are a bunch of nuts!
Go Bucks!
Yes. One way or another I just want that damn sword to stop dangling over our heads in everything that we do
You know darn well that no matter what the verdict is, the Haters will never think it's enough.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
Oh, I know. I spent a little time on the ESPN comments in the article about the sanctions being announced today. Amazing.
Amen. Ready to move on.
GO BUCKS!
Correct me if I'm wrong but there are a few things at play here.
1) This is the end. The NCAA wil determine our fate. They won't allege new charges, correct?
2) With that assumption in tow, if no LOIC charge has been made, and to my knowledge, one hasn't. The NCAA won't say "OSU, we charge you with LOIC" at a hearing like the one scheduled for today. If OSU was getting hit with LOIC, the NCAA would have to allege it first, then we would have to respond, then the NCAA would have to rule, or am I wrong?
3) If I understand it correctly and there is no LOIC-the bowl ban should almost be removed from our list of concerns. As is my understanding, no team has received a bowl\postseason ban without an LOIC charge.
If I grasp all of that right (and please correct me if I dont), there is no logical reason to expect an LOIC charge and a bowl ban as a result. Now I do know my first mistake is approaching the NCAA logically but please, anyone in the know correct me if I'm wrong. Otherwise-I'm pretty damned happy.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
1) This is the end.
2) No more charges; this is strictly a verdict. FTM was the charge for the DiGeronimo thing. The Tressel charges were hashed out in July - no further violations; no FTM, no LOIC.
3) FTM rarely if ever brings a bowl ban, let alone LOIC which Ohio State was not found guilty of here.
Control what you can control. Maybe you can control your bowels right now; maybe you can't. What you cannot control is the NCAA verdict.
I'm going to sit back, relax, and hope to be overdosing on fake outrage all night and through tomorrow.
well I'll give the NCAA the benefit of the...HAHAHAHAHA ok, almost got that one out. To be honest, anything other than a bowl ban is ok in my book. We paid a price, the NCAA may decide to add to that tab but in my humble opinion a bowl ban would have a more direct impact on recruiting than even scholarship limititations-Limitations only affect the amount of dudes you get. Post season bans affect the quality.
God I might actually follow Jim Rome (@HugeDoucheJustGotAFax), Mark May (@Winslow'sNeighborPlusFittyPounds), and George Dorhman (@MakeSh*TUpItWorks) on twitter just to get my fill of tasty butt hurt.
Thanks for the response Ramzy.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Dont' forget ol' Brooks Melchoir (@ITotallyBrokeItFirst)
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
He is breaking news that Ohio State may have been charged with NCAA violations as far back as 2010. He is all over this Tressel story as it develops.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Completely agree abou the bowl ban. That is the only thing I am really concerned about because of its impact on recruits and its punishment of current players for past players' screw ups.
vacuuming sucks
I think that is pretty short-sighted though. There are plenty of things the NCAA can hit us with that will hurt the program for the next few years. I don't have that cozy (even smug) feeling that some do, I'm very nervous about this and don't have a good feeling.
I'm having a hard time recalling the school (either ole miss or miss st) rec'd a bowl ban without a LOIC since they were repeat offenders. This was the only time a program rec'd a bowl ban without a LOIC. That's the part that scares me with this whole mess because there is a precedent. I believe in the tOSU response to the NCAA that the school admitted to being a repeat offender.
I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis
For those people that don't think that there is an anti tOSU bias, i ask you to see the responses from the various media outlets. People can say all they want about tOSU fans being delusional all they want, but the proof will be in the headlines this afternoon.
The NCAA can add more scholly reductions, they can take away the Sugar Bowl, they can even reduce practice time, but everyday that my team's QB doesn't have a ginger blowout that would make the Jersey Shore boardwalk weep, well, that is a good day in my book:
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
How could a person not want to punch this kid in the face? Just sayin'.
He reminds me of a real-life Mickey Doyle
/Boardwalk Empire'd
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
Thanks for always seeing the bright side, Ski.
Well... if it's harsh, then I call for the NCAA to get the death penalty. If it's too harsh, we should raise a legal fund, and then sue the NCAA under the Sherman Anti-Trust act. We'll argue that the NCAA by definition is a corporation, not a non-profit, and insist it be broken up.
well this is what we wanted...right? ....right guys? X-\
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
"Enjoy the next six hours"
Thanks for making it feel that much longer, just had to throw that in their didn't ya? LOL
Going to be a long shift here at work. Either way, it will be a decent Christmas... I just want this in the rear-view mirror already, regardless of the punishment.
Guys and girls, the year of suck is almost over. Finally we can press the reset button and get the Meyer party started
T-Minus 5 hours and counting!!! Since I'm 2 hours behind - I believe I'll head out to my local Mexican Cantina and grab a plate full of tacos and watch the newscast. If it goes well - tacos and tequila!!! If it goes bad - f@#$ the tacos and pass the Mexican Moonshine!!!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
Waiting with the end now clearly in sight makes me feel like when a Tressel-led-team took their foot off the gas with a lead and tried to do everything not to lose in the 4th quarter: Nervous.
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
Blocked punt. ffffffffffffffff. Last second pick by Rose! FTW!
Hopefully there will be a similar emotional swing to happiness at 3:01.
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Really hope I'm not reading a headline at 3:03 today that says "NCAA says Merry Grinch-mas" or something to that effect
Now Jason and the Crew HAVE to use that as the headline. Someone get this man a shirt!
-The Aristocrats!
Anyone need a good laugh? Tressel in The Onion 2011 sports year in review.
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/jim-tressel-named-coach-of-the-year-for-committing,26886/
I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis
Too bad a coach has to essentially get fired to finally get an award that he should've gotten long ago, IMO.
Has anybody heard about Tress' future employment plans? I guess the thing with UCLA was just rumor?
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
Nice work!
I'm quite optimisitic about the ruling today. All signs are pointing to nothing major heading down the pike. Recruits are flowing in, haters are already tweeting about the NCAA verdict ruining their Christmas(I interperted that to mean they don't believe Ohio State is going to get nailed) and there just haven't been rumors to indicate things will be bad. There's so much information out there saying it's not going to be a bad end result, that if there was a bowl ban on the table I'd think it would have leaked. I just don't think things will be that bad. Longer probation and 3-5 more schollies is my guess.
Expect bad news.
Why?
Also, what is that picture?!?
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Raven Riley... beware her pics are not safe for work (or your wife). She actually sat next to me at the NCG against Florida.
Ahh...too small to make out who it was. She's a Buckeye fan?
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I really don't know. I think she is, because she did a pretty well-known photo set of her in OSU stuff, but she was at the NCG (with her boyfriend?) wearing Florida stuff.
I believe the NCAA will add to the self-imposed sanctions.
Wait... I thought you were "Optimistic"?
I'm an optimistic pessimist.
As opposed to a pessimistic optimist?
Expect the worst, and you're either always right or pleasantly surprised.
I swear you stole that from Confucious. You're supposed to site your source.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
"cite" I think you mean, sorry, English guy here :)
Where's the period at the end of your sentence? ;-p
On a related note, will this announcement be aired at all, or will we just have to wait to get the details?
Comma splice!
This crowns me grammar correction champion, 2011.
ahh, touche! ;)
Ooooops. You are correct sir.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
FS Ohio has reported that "inside sources" say that the sanctions by the NCAA aren't going to be much different than what was already self-imposed by OSU. I don't think there's a whole lot to worry about. 99.9% chance that there's no bowl ban (that's my estimate).
Class of 2010.
Whoa. That's more than 99.7%!
so there IS a chance????
The fact that Bruce Hooley works at FS Ohio lessons their credibility IMO.
#fistpumpgobuckeyes
Not an English major here, but I think it's "lessens."
So this cancels out my earlier grammatical mistake, right?
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
fer shure ;)
WHERE IS BRUTUS?!?! PLS TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW!
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Here's to the last couple of "gray boxes of doom" for a while.
hey, anyone know where the post is about OSU not having to meet with the committee again after the last infraction occured? where they may have to call but then NCAA said they don't have to anymore. dispute with a friend who is now like "see, see I told you I was right". has no idea what he is talking about and I need ammo!
I'm certainly not glad that those poor kids were violated over at State Penn, but it did make Tatgate seem like small peanuts. Maybe the NCAA feels the same way? Trying to be optimistic.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
Miami, let alone State Penn, made OSU's case look like small peanuts. Hookers, abortions, hotel rooms, yacht parties, Shapiro....
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
I sense the volume of butthurt-ness from OSU haters will get out of hound.
You should head over to ESPiN and watch the volume of posts per minute - quite impressive!!! Most of the whiners are from the Ann Arbor Community College fans! Makes me laugh how pissed off they are - of course, there are many Buckeye fans on there smacking the hornets nest
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
[Crossing my fingers] All I want for Christmas is to hear the gnashing of teeth and taste the salty tear drops. If everything goes well, this evening I'll curl up with a bowl of popcorn and peruse the hilarious demagoguery of unsatisfied hate.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."
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We have to be careful. We are celebrating getting laid because we took home a drunk girl who was giving the vibe all night, without realizing the very real possibility that she is going to throw up all over our bed and nice down comforter and then take the only couch.
The NCAA has already made its decision, not that they care what fans say, anyway. Moreover, there's no way to "jinx" an already sealed envelope (verdict). Thus the only reason "to be careful," as you suggest, is to protect our own mental health - not get overly-optimistic, only to get rug pulled out from under us at 3 pm. I agree with those sentiments.
As for your anaolgy, though, if that drunk girl does throw up in our bed, the borrowed time on which she is living will get even shorter. And the drunk skank sorta understands that. She appreciates that she can only screw over some many real playa's before she has to start picking up her own bar tabs and has to pay her share of the rent.
My comments are more directed at those who are already "stirring the pot elsewhere;" there are some very smug comments already popping up. As a fanbase, we've been through some tough times and we don't need to go out and rub anyone's face in it, especially when we don't even know what the penalties are. And in that respect, I would expect additional sanctions to be levied by the NCAA.
Just to clarify: Are you suggesting that Ohio State fans possibly being smug has any connection whatsoever with your expeting additional sanctions [which is illogical]? Or that these two items are completely separate [which is logical]?
I agree, though, definitely no sense in stirring the pot before the sanctions are announced and, for that matter, if the verdict is reasonable, it's not that helpful for us to crow about it after, either. Barring a b.s. verdict, that will unleash a savage counterattack, I will passively visit other sites, simply to observe the hilarious butt hurt, but I personally will not make comments there. For those of us who must make comments on such sites, I'd recommend that we state the essential facts and not get into pissing contests, but kids will be kids.
My expectations and actions and those of other fans are completely separate. However, my expectations are that anything beyond what we have self-imposed is bad, and I think the NCAA will levy additional sanctions.
Just heard Bruce hooley on Dan Patrick show. Bruce is now officially the biggest douche on earth. How is this guy associated with Ohio at all?
He is a miserable prick, and his schtick has grown quite stale. Hope he chokes to death on his own tongue while ranting about the NCAA's verdict.
I think he just went on a rant and it back fired, now he's bitter.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
I've not heard anything the douche has said - just what commenters on 11W have passed along to the group.
But it sounds like he babbled himself into an awkward position, found himself in a hole and kept digging, and now has no other way out. He probably half-realizes how ridiculous he's become, but as JT says, choices matter, and now he's getting paid to play the role of the expatriate who took a principled stand, even though it cost him dearly, blah blah, piss and moan, bs bs.
In other words, he literally has become a douche bag - i.e., certain people value him for performing a dirty job, but that doesn't mean they think of him in a positive light. And as soon as Hooley is used up for that purpose (which figures to be about month from now), Hooley's new handlers will throw him into the garbage heap along with the other used up old douche bags.
Agreed - I can smell the vinegar from Dayton.
PLEASE let me use this today: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gordon Gee's signature is on my diploma. I'm proud of that. Class of 2008
+1
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How do you do that?
I was wondering how, too, specifically the smiley face part.
C&P
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is It Saturday Yet = IT genius
Is anyone else worried about Mark May's heart health today?
-The Aristocrats!
+50
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yeah that it will last
So, is Gee's presser at 4:00 to let us know Gene will be hitting he bricks?
If the only penalties are self imposed, then I think Gene did his job. No need to fire him.
On the wall guarding the North Coast from all Weasel invasions.
Considering that oversight is the main function of his job description I would have to disagree. I would suggest that how you get out of the hole that you allowed to be dug is less important than allowing a spade to hit the dirt in the first place.
I just hope that Gene Smith doesn't fire Gee! ***sarcasm***
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
Does anybody follow Dunn's twitter account? There was some noise on the ESPiN's board that elluded to him flipping his cousin from the dark side to OSU!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
They were just talking a little smack about facing each other in college. Don't think he is going to flip.
Here is some of the chatter:
: Dymonte1 Dymonte Thomas
: @DunnItAlready25 also don't come my way on the field hahahahah because for you my big cousin its lights out. K.O! :)
: Bri'onte Dunn @DunnItAlready25
: @Dymonte1 im not worried about them and lol you better be smart and fall when I come your way
: Dymonte Thomas @Dymonte1 Dymonte Thomas
: @DunnItAlready25 ayyy I ain't never scared! Haha you are about to be hit like you have never been hit before
: Bri'onte Dunn @DunnItAlready25
: @Dymonte1 it won't matter because you're going to be a Buckeye anyway.
Thanks!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
If things go well today I wouldn't be surprised to have someone commit.
It would make sense for them to want to know a verdict before they decide on way or the other.... Thoughts?
O-H-I-O
We get off easy by the NCAA, Dunn flips Thomas to OSU and Kalis realizes he made a mistake and dumps scUM leaving Hoke a $10 gift card to golden coral as a parting gift. All in one day!!!
But do want someone in our program who is that mean spirited? I mean, for Kalis to cause Golden Coral to go out of business like that is unnecessarily cruel.
+11
oh the interwebz are on fire today
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
If things go well today, I think you will a couple of flips and commits.
I'm nervous. I'm optimistic it won't be too bad, but just hoping the whole repeat offender thing doesn't kill us.
However, Gene and Gee having NCAA connections can't hurt. Maybe Gene deserves to stay if this goes well??
Things will go well today. That is all.
^^^^^^ I trust this. Let the haters hate.
Just a hunch. Nobody knows anything with 100% certainty at this point.
Did you get Brutus on the horn?
-The Aristocrats!
2010 - TatGate
2011 - NCAA
2012 - Myans
Christmas is killing me slowly
I'm gonna go out on the limb and say no bowl ban.
A) Urban seemed pretty confident at the presser that additional sanctionc - if any - won't harm the program.
B) Gene Smith seems pretty confident that there won't be. And though he's a blathering idiot at times, he is pretty damn connected within the NCAA circle.
C) Too much money at stake. Last year's BCS championship game was the lowest rated since they added the additional championship game. With the risk of this year's championship game getting a low rating in every region but the South, the BCS will not want the one program that may be able to compete immediately with the SEC for a MNC (and thus boost ratings) to be ineligible, and they've surely let the NCAA know that.
BC$ ratings were why Pryor et al. could play in the Sugar last year. I'm sure that is a big factor too.
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Exactly.
I'd bet we're going to get a one year bowl ban and increased scholarship reductions (9 ? across 3 years).
Bowl ban = Gene Smith fired. He may get canned regardless, but if we get a bowl ban he should be fired before the end of the day for not self imposing a ban for this season.
Don't see it. Maybe the increased schollie reduction. I'd say at most 4 more (9 over 3 years) and +1 year probation.
If theres a bowl ban, they'd have announced it before bowl selection, so we could take it now. Too much money at stake.
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No, they don't have to announce it for this year. It can apply to next season. The added NCAA sanctions will hurt us next year.
I know that. My point was, we'd have taken it this year. (Probably can't still at this point.) So, IMO, if there were a bowl ban, they'd have announced it 3 weeks ago. Ergo, no bowl ban, since there is too much money on the table for the NCAA and BCS to stop us next year, when we'll likely be in the top 5-10 at the end of the season and have at least an at-large.
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Opti, you win the NCAA shell game.
#fistpumpgobuckeyes
Why does anyone think there will be a bowl ban? Am I correct that there has not EVER been this type of sanction imposed without LOIC?
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/12/20/ncaa-report.html
Is why
I'm sorry for not being sorry.
I'm very tempted to just wait another 75 minutes so then I won't be the dick that breaks the bad news, but I've grown a little accustomed to my role here. I was just told that we will be getting a bowl ban. God I hope I'm wrong and if so, please feel free to ban me from this site for posting misleading information. Nevertheless, this is what I'm hearing now and my source hasn't been wrong about much thus far. The bowl ban seems to run counter to EVERYTHING we've been hearing everywhere else so maybe there's a chance that something has changed. But as of 20 minutes ago, the word is bowl ban.
I'm truly sorry to be posting this. I think a bowl ban is really crushing at this point because it's too late to serve it this year and next year looks to be bright.
I agree with you.
What floors me...well, okay, nothing that ESPN does anymore floors me, but I find it ironic that there was a whole segment on SportsCenter announcing that the NCAA will announce their findings on us at 3...yet I haven't seen the drumbeat of doom about Suite Carolina, Miami, or anyone else for weeks.
Dispatch just reported we got a bowl ban plus 4 more schollies.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Bowl ban reported by Dispatch:
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/12/20/ncaa-report.html
Wow, Gene Smith sure hit it on the head didn't he?
Gene Smith better be fired.
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
I expected 3-5 scholarships gone, must say I'm pretty shocked about the bowl ban though. Can Ohio State just say Eff the Gator Bowl t his late in the game? Not likely. At the same time though, i'm not really sure this will hurt the recruiting much. We'll see I guess.
The NCAA just made more enemies if the bowl ban is true. If they want to play rough, then it's legal defense fund time. We each contribute a little bit, hire some lawyers and Sherman Anti-Trust Act the bleep out of them.
Appeal. Appeal. Appeal.
appeal and sue. appeal and sue.
I don't think an appeal is the way to go. Robinson seems to think that there is a 3rd witness, probably someone he talked to often to try and get to sell his story, that could really screw Ohio State over. Perhaps it's best to take our medicine and focus on 2013 and put this behind the program. The fast it goes away the faster this witness' info is no longer useful.