Wednesday Skull Session

By Sarah on November 23, 2011 at 6:00a
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Good morning, Buckeye fans! It's Wednesday of the fourth week in November, meaning we are one day away from the holiday that centers around the holy alliance of food and football.

And just in case you've forgotten, which I know you haven't, we are three days away from the 108th installment of The Game.

As someone who vacillates between blind optimism and hardcore cynicism1 (and everywhere in between) when it comes to my sports teams, I remain indecisive about my prediction for Saturday's game. If we somehow found out, even through vague and slightly nonsensical Tweets from current players, that Tressel spoke to the team this week, I would feel about 1000% better.

Either way, I'll be in Ann Arbor, possibly getting rained on, and more than likely, facing harassment from Wolverine fans with eons of pent-up frustration. And the keys. So many keys.

Meanwhile, in Bristol, Connecticut, Urban Meyer will rub his hands together and cackle with glee as he glances at the rest of the Big Ten and then takes a look at an Ohio State roster that will include young players such as future Heisman winner Braxton Miller, soul-destroyer Ryan Shazier, and top recruit Adolphus Washington.

I hope the rest of the conference thoroughly enjoyed Ohio State's one-year sabbatical from dominance. Though I sort of feel like Urban taking over the program is like Voldemort seizing control of Hogwarts2, I recognize a coaching coup when I see one. And he will soon own every other B1G coach's head on a stick. 

PASSION PIT. Responding to Fickell's comments yesterday about The Game and how "it's about passion and will...You don't win these types of games based on talent", Adam Rittenberg lays out the case for talent trumping the importance of passion, even in rivalries.

Rittenberg uses the Rich Rod Era as evidence to back his claim. While true that a team quarterbacked by Tate Forcier isn't going to be swimming in competence, he forgets that Fickell played during the 90s. Cooper was defined by fielding superior teams who routinely met defeat, sometimes embarrassingly so, at the hands of their northern nemesis.

Obviously, those 90s Michigan squads would have waxed the floor with Rodriguez' bunch. And for the most part, Tressel's teams were more skilled than UM's. He also emphasized The Game, much like Hoke is attempting to do, and he made sure the players appreciated its significance. 

The nuance of rivalry games is that sometimes the most talented team wins, and sometimes, the "whoever wants it more" cliché holds up. Both matter, and hopefully, the Buckeyes will channel their innate, if not always well-executed, talent to passionately send Fickell off with a victory, Earle Bruce-style.  

 ONE-GAME SEASON. More than in recent years, when BCS berths and B1G titles were on the line, this season lives and dies for Ohio State on Saturday. With a win, the year will become salvageable. It will give the youngsters something to build on for next season and the seniors, who have had a rough ending to an otherwise successful career, can leave without knowing the sting of losing to Michigan.

However, if they get beat, this already disappointing season becomes one in which we pray that Will Smith comes along to flash us with a neuralyzer3.  Their record would fall to 6-6, the worst since 1999 when they ended the season as such.

Fickell claims the Buckeyes have a one-track mind:

"The most important thing is this is Michigan week," Fickell said. "That's where we're focused. That's what we want to talk about ... who cares what the records are. Just like we've always said, it’s a one-game season. It's always been about a one game season."

Besides ensuring that a world where Ohio State loses Michigan remains alien to second graders, a W would perhaps keep OSU away from a bowl that airs on ESPNU4 and would eliminate the Wolverines' chance at a BCS bowl, which is ridiculous anyway. There's still plenty of motivation for the players so long as they haven't mentally packed their bags.  

BruuuuuuuuuuceI wouldn't mind a scene like this on Saturday

 PEOPLE ARE CRAZY AND TIMES ARE STRANGE. The Detroit Free Press' Vince Ellis writes how in one calendar year, Ohio State and Michigan have undergone a Freaky Friday-like body swap. One is 6-5; the other is 9-2. One team seems to be regressing; the other seems to be progressing. One team will deal with a regime change; the other has a more stable situation.

Recently, none of that is unfamiliar territory for The Game. What's unusual is the two programs have switched positions and quickly.

Taking public speaking lessons from Terrelle Pryor, Brady Hoke said, "It's life. Things change every day. Babies are born. People die. I mean, things happen all the time." Well, he's not wrong. People are born and people die. Right now, even. It's the circle of life. So hakuna matata.

AIN'T NO SMOGGY SMOKE ON ROCKY TOP. Yesterday the university revealed that some alterations have been made to the upcoming football schedule. Gone is the home-and-home series against Tennessee that was supposed to take place in '18 and '19, a casualty of the 9-game B1G season that begins in '17.

While it's possible that the two schools will reschedule at a later date, so Ohio State fans can orchestrate mock S-E-C chants when the Buckeyes win, North Carolina and Florida A&M have been added. The matchups against UNC have been planned for '15 (in Columbus) and '17 (in Chapel Hill). The Rattlers will collect their paycheck in '13, when they will sacrifice themselves in Ohio Stadium.

The meetings with Virginia Tech ('14 and '15) and Oklahoma ('16 and '17) are still a go. At the moment, Cincinnati is the only nonconference foe on the docket for '18, though that will obviously be amended at some point. 

BASKETBALL BITS. When the BB team tips off tonight versus VMI, it will be their second of three games in five days. It's a stretch of contests that Sullinger compares to March, because of the packed schedule, not the competition. Corey will have a preview up later today, but two areas that the Buckeyes are confident in are their inside game and creating turnovers.

Three of Ohio State's future opponents played last night in the Maui Invitational, including next Tuesday's adversary, Duke. The Blue Devils defeated Michigan 82-75 in a battle of rosters replete with super-annoying players and kids of well-known dads. One stat Matta and staff should pay attention to is Duke's three-point shooting. They made 11 of 21 from behind the arc against UM.

Duke will take on Kansas, who beat UCLA 72-56, tonight in the championship game. Michigan and UCLA will vie for third place.

In Lady Buckeyes news, the women's BB team improved their record to 3-0 after a 73-50 win over Howard yesterday. Tayler Hill was the leading scorer with 18 and Darryce Moore chipped in with 15. 

I LINK I CAN. Another stomach-churning Jerry Sandusky update... Jeff Svoboda's pal Josh shot a high-grade Mirror Lake video last night... Wesley Witherspoon, a Memphis player who is presumably British, made a dumb... Brady Hoke's least favorite team got the best of Miami (OH)... A Community Easter Egg three years in the making (six seasons and a movie)... Hollywood is sexist?!?!... Amy Poehler's pitches for female-starring comedies... So that's why I procrastinate.

  • 1 I was pretty insistent that Urban Meyer would not be the next head coach, because I had already seen how this type of story plays out elsewhere (Michigan), and quite frankly, some fans really reeked of desperation in their pleas for Urban and I prefer playing it cool. Then, a website I trust broke the news and my skepticism turned into a desire to troll the message boards of every other Big Ten school. 
  • 2 RIP, Tresseldore.
  • 3 With the exception of this play.
  • 4 I'd be shocked if Ohio State and Florida don't face off in a bowl. The story line is too irresistible, and as such, money, money, money.
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GoBucks713's picture

Mirror Lake was a blast last night. We were watching a fat kid in really bad Jorts, a red OSU tshirt and a red Bandana get down by the water probably 15 times and cheer other people on, then he would look like he was getting ready to get in. Then the little chickenshit would just walk away. HE did this to us for over an hour, playing with our emotions.

-The Aristocrats!

Denny's picture

"We were watching a fat kid in really bad Jorts, a red OSU tshirt and a red Bandana"

Oh, Ohio.

Taquitos.

Sarah's picture

It was his way of welcoming Urban from Florida.

GoBucks713's picture

Well, that was a sad way to do it. If I weren't afraid of hepatitis I would have jumped in yelling about how I want to have URBZ's love child. And probably yelling welcometoerf! Is there a way to change my name on here? I want to change it from my lame name to welcometoerf.

-The Aristocrats!

BuckeyeCrew's picture

Uh.. good to hear that you get your jollies by watching a fat person vacilate.

Mirror Lake looked like a blast last night.  I don't ever remember seeing it that packed in the 90s, and certainly don't remember Batman going to take a dip in there! (Look at the final 30 sec of the vid)

mr.green's picture

I'll look for you at The Game, Sarah.  I'll be wearing something red and holding up  8 fingers while I take trash talk from anyone who wants to bring it. I was there for the Earle Bruce finale. Win one for the coach is a great motivator. Yes, you still need big plays at key times, but a  team that has overcome SO much this year should be primed to do great things on the field. All the pressure is on tsun. Play loose and Go Bucks!

Can we wear the combat unis again? Please!!

 

 

blazers34's picture

I will also be there yelling like an idiot for the bucks.  just hoping i dont get cussed out too many times.

we'll be up there early enough to watch the iron bowl on friday, pretty excited for the damn weekend!

ArTbkward's picture

I'll be there as well, not heading up till Saturday morning though.  I'll also be in scarlet :)

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

Sarah's picture

It's going to be so embarrassing when we all show up wearing the same outfit.

ArTbkward's picture

No kidding.  We'll have play cool about like Samanatha and Miley in SATC2.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

Kansas City Buckeye's picture

Mike and Mike on ESPN radio are citing sources in Orlando confirming that Urban Meyer is coming to Ohio State.  They state their sources are also saying Fickell will remain on the staff.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

What an amazing opportunity for Fickell.  Think about it--learning behind two of the best people to ever coach the college game.  The immediate future is bright with Meyer coming on board, but the long term looks just as good.

Honestly, keeping Fickell is the spoon full of sugar that is helping the Urban medicine go down.

Its 10:15am CST and Michigan still sucks!

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

AltaBuck's picture

Regarding the mirror lake video, in the immortal words of Booger, 'Pan Down!"

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

flipbuckeye's picture

+99.7 for the epic RotN reference.

"How could you ever get tired of that ass, Takashi?"

AltaBuck's picture

Following the Purdue loss, I had John Goodman's (Coach Harris) voice ringing in my head "You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds. Nerds!"

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

JLP36's picture

Winning this one will be one of the sweeter ones because of the taste it will leave in Michigan's mouth.  That taste you will be savoring all year, Michigan, is reality and it tastes much better on the south side of the border.  GO BUCKS!

The Buckeyes have as many quality wins this year as Michigan does.  The sledding is easier in the Dreamer's division.

JLP36

BTwrestle04's picture

Anyone else see this? I trust 11W sources more than said sources in the article, but still. Not sure I believe it yet.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Urban-Meyer-Ohio-State-Bu...

BTwrestle04's picture

Urban Meyer signed for 7 years, 40 million. Bringing in Florida LB Coach D.J. Durkin as DC, Florida Strength Coach Mickey Marotti as Director of Football Operations. Fickell stays onboard as Assistant Coach.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Urban denying eeerthang on the ESPN Sportscenter....says he wants to chill with fam on holiday

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Maybe all these leaks will piss him off and he will refuse offer....

BTwrestle04's picture

I keep thinking the same thing as well.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Joe Schad just sd it will happen after Michigan game. If it's that close to being done we have hope...

Sarah's picture

Way for you guys to out-cynical me.

BuckeyeChris's picture

I'd have to be pretty pis*ed to pass on $40,000,000.  

Scott's picture

I'm convinced that's why Les Miles didn't end up at Michigan. I'm also convinced Herbie knew of that possibility, which is why he started the storm. For that reason I will always love him.

Class of 2008

btalbert25's picture

Les Miles was in a completely different situation though.  He had a team to prepare for a title game, he had a current coaching gig, and yeah dude from Michigan was on a boat and no one could get ahold of him.  Had Michigan handled it right, he would be there.  Michigan dropped the ball on that situation.

Scott's picture

I absolutely agree. I probably should have included that I do not see this happening to us.

Class of 2008

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

If West Virginia beats Pitt in the 2007 Backyard Brawl, Les Miles would have been the coach at Michigan. That upset changed the landscape of college football more than any other game I can think of.

This article says it all: http://www.aarontorres-sports.com/articles/college-football/the-what-if-...

cronimi's picture

Pat Forde went through a similar analysis of the same question this week.  How different the college football landscape would be if WFV didn't pull a Clemson against Pitt.

Abe Froman's picture

The offer isn't an offer until the paper is in front of him.  Until then it is all negotiations.  The agreement isn't executed until all parties sign.  It would be nice to be at the game, unfortunately some of us have to complete the Triangle of Death drive and return from the outlaws in WV.  Don't be concerned though, Popswines made a delivery today and I will be well stocked with Zyr for the game. 

If Michigan wins (3-2 odds in my book), I hope they do something so blatantly wrong that we forget about winning 8 straight and think only about our chance in the next game.  If we win in a big, big upset, I hope our team relishes the look in the eyes of the defeated. 

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

jfrank373's picture

Urban is going to deny everything, as he should, especially since Luke Fickell is the head coach of the football team. Luke has done an amazing job and he deserves to relish the moment of Michigan week as the head coach of the football team.

He has earned this moment, he has earned the spot light, and he is also under contract through the remainder of the season. Bowl game included. I know we're all excited and every news outlet wants to be the first to report specifics, but let's just chill, enjoy beating Michigan for the 8th time in a row and actually enjoy an off season. Not to mention, the NCAA hasn't ruled yet, so that has to come first as well. Urban is coming, but let's live in the here and now and enjoy what is left of the 2011 Buckeye football season.

btalbert25's picture

Urban isn't going to turn it down because of speculation.  He's been speculated to be the next coach at several schools this whole season.  He can't comment on any deal because no deal has been signed and oh yeah he has a job already.  Not once has he said he's happy where he is and isnt' interesting in coaching or is staying put.  He knows the drill, and knows that when leaks and rumors are out there, there will be a ton of speculation.

BrewstersMillions's picture

I'm sure glad we don't actually play the game...According to UM fans this puppy is over. Really a poor assumption to make. We don't play well on the road and we are a young team...but what the hell else do we have to lose? More so, Michigan had its destiny in its hands twice and choked it away against Sparty and Iowa. This isn't a great UM team. I expect a full dose of Hank up the middle, Simon off the edge and Shazier spying Denard the whole way. We win an ugly one on the back of Boom and the Handsome one. 17-6 OSU.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

Baroclinicity's picture

Hey #10 - you've got #16 in blue.  Kill.

BrewstersMillions's picture

Denard is going to have a hard time taking off and running when the guided missile that is #10 is on him. I truly expect a lot of hesitation and bad throws out of Robinson. Shazier might be our most destructive force on defense and I pray we use him properly. The plan is actually pretty simple to stop DRob. You rush him up the middle-he can't see over a rush and (much to Michigan fan's dismay) he can't our run Shazier to the corners. I really think we beat him up bad this game.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

Maestro's picture

Love that strateegery.

vacuuming sucks

Baroclinicity's picture

I think what worries me most is time of possession.  I think we will get the stops, but if our offense doesn't work, he will get too many chances and eventually make some plays.  Ideally, we get him to play from behind.

Maestro's picture

Well, miracles do happen.  When is the last time we had an early lead.............Wisky?  Yep, that seems like a lifetime ago.  

In this game throw out those stats though.

Go Bucks!!!

vacuuming sucks

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

Actually, we were down to Wisky 7-0 early and 7-3 at half.

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

RBuck's picture

....and the defense will tire out.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

BrewstersMillions's picture

And it should worry you. This is a pretty good UM defense. They have really become a solid unit that seldom misses tackles, and that was a staple under Rich Rod that Pryor and Herron exploited for three years. They are slow in the secondary and if you can get past one of the best D Line's in the conference, there are plays to be made on them. It seems obvious, as we have all said it for 11 weeks now, but more than ever Stoney can...dare I say...burn them in the middle of the field and make for some easy throws for Braxton. As much as we hate to see draw play after draw play, it will be an effective tool against an aggresive front 4 that likes to stunt a LOT. You catch Martin and RVB on the wrong stunt and Miller is upfield in a hurry. Iowa was able to run the ball right down Michigan's throats and I feel we can do the same with Herron and Guapo. Hall may need to be relegated to the bench, I think this is a 'punch them in the face' offsensive approach. I'm thinking Beanie in 2007 sort of game. You know its coming, we know you know its coming, and you still can't do a damned thing to stop it. Time to step up Boom. Put a stamp on a roller coaster career.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

#10 could be Michigan's Bane. How fitting. I seem to recall another #10 that dominated Michigan.

If The Missile has a huge game, OSU should start a tradition where the #10 jersey is only worn by Wolverine Destroyers.

Brutus's picture

35-17 good guys. Yeah, that's right, 35.

I was way off with my prediction last week, so I'm planning on making up for it this week. Go Bucks. Happy Thanksgiving all.

Northbrook's picture

I'll roll with that. This one is won in the trenches.

Boom those holes the OL is making are for you. Get you some.

Baroclinicity's picture

So I was looking at one of the tweets scrolling on the side... Fickell to be kept on staff.  Is that confirmed?

Maestro's picture

That's what the Orlando paper is reporting.  Would be really cool IMHO.  Some symettry is a good thing I think.

vacuuming sucks

Buckeyejason's picture

I got a chubby for Urbie coming to Columbus.

Fuck Michigan

Fuck Michigan

And oh. Fuck Michigan

BUCKEYES BABY!

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Kept waiting for cheeesburrrgerrr....

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Joe Beale's picture

I feel like this tweet needs some updating.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

sweet sexy jesus, i forgot about his offspring  ::gulp::

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

LABuckeye's picture

It looks like she kinda did... some fan of Florida tweeted to her their support if her dad goes to OSU, she tweeted back something about loving fans like that.  

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Urban might have his Tebow next year too. Cardale Jones is up to 6'6", 230 lbs. His frame looks like it could hold another 15-20 pounds too. Redshirt him next year, then he'll have two years of eligibility after Braxton leaves.

http://www.forkunion.com/sites/default/files/PGFootballRoster2011.pdf

Gentlemen, I think we're about to have an incredible run at Ohio State that could even trump Tressel's run.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Good Lord he is huge....any idea what he did this season?

matti's picture

+1000 with all the rumors think some people are forgetting it f'n hate week ef that pos to the north

 

theDuke's picture

prediction- hoke eats a triple baconator meal (biggie sized) on friday night and only two michigan players are decapitated during the game by.... RYAN SHAZIER!!

theDuke

btalbert25's picture

The hoke prediction is not really going out on a limb, I have it from credible sources he likes to have at least 2 triple baconators a day. 

Normal Buck's picture

Ryan Damn Shazier!

Bucks43201's picture

Am I the only one who is maybe a little bit hesitant of Urban's offense versus a traditional power offense with a fullback?

Don't get me wrong - I think Urban will be a great coach, and do very well.

However, if I had two choices (besides Tressel), I'd take Jim Harbaugh and Nick Saban, because....they believe in a fullback and a power running game with the QB under center in most situations, as an integral part of the offense. I like the more conservative/traditional pro set power offense. Also --- can you name any great RB's who put up big numbers under an Urban Meyer team? I can't think of anyone. I prefer the Beanie Wells type of RB. Those are the difference-makers in the Big Ten, usually.

One of the reasons I can not stand this spread these days is the inability of spread teams to just pound the ball in to the endzone, when they get inside the 5 yard line. I can't stand it when a team is down there and they start throwing the ball on early downs . Run it on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th downs with a fullback - you'll get in. The pass is to easy to defend inside the red zone, unless it's a play action situation to a tight end.

This is the Big Ten conference, too --- and the teams that usually are successful (OSU, Wisconisin, PSU, scUM of yesteryear) --- are the teams with that traditional power running game.

Again, I think Urban will do well...but, if I had a choice, I'd go with the different offensive scheme. Maybe Urban can defy and be the exception with this spread offense working up here, time will tell. Either way, it's at least an improvement from the Bollman/Siciliano offense -- that's for sure. Our passing game should improve five-fold. Go Bucks!

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Denny's picture

You really don't remember Tim Tebow running everything inside the 5 yeard line in, do you?

Tebow and Percy Harvin were their running backs. I'd be just fine if Miller and Jordan Hall did the same for us.

Taquitos.

Bucks43201's picture

Yes. Do you see Tim Tebow on our roster anywhere, Denny?

I mean Braxton is a great mobile threat, but I'd hate to see him as our NUMBER ONE running option -- he won't last a season.

Percy Harvin was great for the Gators, but not as a running back ... he was more of a slot guy/scat back.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Denny's picture

We have a metric assload of running backs. They'll be utilized.

I don't see Tim Tebow on our roster, but if I squint really hard I can see St. Francis of Assisi in the background on our athletic department homepage.

Taquitos.

Bucks43201's picture

That is true -- we are stacked at RB for the next few years --- just hope they're utilized, especially deep in the redzone.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

For the gazillionth time, Urban runs a "power spread". The basis is that your QB should be able to run power plays thus giving the offense an extra blocker. It's highly effective with the right guys. There will be plenty of running the football between the tackles. Braxton will be perfect for this assuming he puts on another 10-15 pounds in the offseason, but I'm actually more excited about Cordale Jones, who's measuring 6'6" 230 these days and has a cannon for an arm. He throws a great deep ball. Needs to work on the short stuff though, but he's already a very powerful runner.

Colin's picture

I had this same opinion a couple of days ago...it got eaten up.

Bucks43201's picture

yeah, Colin? I know, geeze, I'm just trying to bring up another side of the issue, here...not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I just think the power running game is what is effective in this conference.

Maybe Urban's "power spread" is the exception, though --- especially with our talent.

 

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Matt's picture

Jalin Marshall running Urban's Offense = 7,000 yards per game

Bucks43201's picture

hey, that's a good point -- I think with Urban on board --- Marshall becomes an OSU lock

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

It worked against us. Florida ran 80 offensive plays to our 37. Time of possession in that game was 40:48-19:12 in favor of Florida.

I still don't know why Pittman didn't get more carries. 10 rushes for 62 yards. It was a 21-14 midway through the second quarter. Whatever happened to "Keep Calm, run Dave"? Pittman and Wells combined for 71 yards on 12 carries (5.9 yards per carry). I think that's why we all think Tressel got outcoached. We kept trying to pass and kept giving Florida field position. With no Ginn in the game - and thus no deep threat to keep the safeties honest - Florida harrassed Troy Smith all day. Four of Florida's five TD drives that game started inside the OSU 46. They only had one scoring drive of more than 46 yards. Florida only had one solid drive that started inside their own 40. Every other drive that Florida started inside their own 40 resulted in a punt.

Sorry for the rant, that game still gets to me. Our over-confident players and coaches gave them that game. Should have kept calm and run Dave and played field position.

And as for the LSU game: 3 turnovers and 91 penalty yards (one of those penalties, a roughing the kicker on 4th and 18 was a de fact turnover). Two of the turnovers and the de facto turnover all lead to LSU TDs, including their two second half TDs which forced us to go to the air since time was running out. We outgained them in total yards and were dominating the ground game. And was it Robo or Hartline who dropped the ball in his bread-basket at the goal line that would have made it a one score game in the 4th? I just don't accept that Tressel was outcoached in the LSU game. We held them to 3.1 yards per rush and 6.4 yards per pass, well below their averages. We just kept on giving them the ball back and committing stupid penalties so they could extend drives. Four turnovers accounted for at least a 20 point swing in that game. The score just as easily could have been 44-18 in favor of Ohio State.

Bucks43201's picture

agreed -- I thought the coaching staff and panicked and abandoned the run game too early, i.e. Pittman.

Jim Tressel had one of his best offensive gameplan/situational playcalling games against scUM in the previous game...but, that Florida game was terrible playcalling

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Abe Froman's picture

Actually, I think the Robo drop would have made it OSU 21 - LSU 7.  Instead, we had a field goal blocked and the whole momentum changed. 

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

luckynewman13's picture

I'm concerned about our rb situation as well, but still elated with the hire.

I recall Urban having big time rb recruits in gainsville (although I don't really recall if they were his or Zook's), but then he would openly say that he was disappointed in their skill set during the season and that's whay they never really got any carries.

I guess we'll see

Buckeye Black's picture

I think with Hyde we are pretty good for a few years.  Rod Smith will hopefully come around and Jordan Hall will be back next year presumably playing a Percy Harvin like role with Meyer.