Thursday Skull Session

By Jeremy Birmingham on November 24, 2011 at 6:00a

Hello again Buckeye friends, and welcome to your Thanksgiving morning edition of the Skull Session.

The #11W staff would like to wish a great holiday to you and yours, a day full of family, football and feasting, and of course, frequent visits to Eleven Warriors to get your Buckeye fix.

Without further adieu, let's gab.

WILL HIS HEAD AND HEART BE THERE? At his weekly meeting with the media, Fickell was asked about the swirling rumors regarding his job and the ever increasing odds that Urban Meyer will be taking over the team, as early as next week. Luke's reply could likely be the soundbite of his career, up to this point:

“I’ve been told there’s a game at noon on Saturday, and my ass will be there.”

The Buckeyes have been an emotionally unbalanced team for the majority of this season, unable to develop any sort of consistency from week to week. Come out flat against Miami and Michigan State, play like their hair is on fire at Nebraska (for a half, anyway). Fight tooth and nail to beat a favored Wisconsin team, and then hit the snooze button in lackluster first halves against Indiana, Purdue and Penn State.

It's hard to tell exactly what the problem is with this team, because each week they seem to find a new way to struggle. Some have speculated that the team's leaders, the seniors, have turned their focus to the NFL in the midst of the issues the team faced in the past year. Others have suggested it's merely a matter of coaching, since there are no real "leaders" on the staff, rather a bunch of Tressel "yes men" who are unable to motivate and inspire an increasingly entitled group of young men.

Whatever the reason, this weekend has to be different for Ohio State, its players and its coaching staff. The team knows the value of beating Michigan, the seniors are desperate to complete their sweep of UM, hoping to complete 8 years of dominance over the Wolverines. The guys love Luke, and whether it's official or not, the knowledge that this is his swan song (as a head coach, anyway) will mean a pumped up, enthustiastic group ready to wear the proverbial headband for Fick.

Jim Heacock is not happy with how the defense has performed, Jim Bollam has no idea how the offense has performed (those three hours are naptime, so you can't blame him - naps are important) and Luke, for all his passion and intensity, lacks the coaching experience to adequately prepare his team by himself.

With all the rumors, will Luke and this team go out on the field fueled with pride and hunger, or will they be too distracted by all the rumblings regarding Urban?

NUMBERS THAT NUMB. This will be the fifth time that Ohio State has entered Michigan week with five or more losses. The previous occurences, 1943, 1947, 1988 and 1999, all resulted in Buckeye losses. Final score in those previous four meetings? Michigan 134, Ohio State 55. Michigan was ranked in top 10 in the country in each of those meetings, and enter this weekend's game ranked 15th. This year, the Buckeyes are 2-3 against ranked teams. Coach Fickell will try and reverse a disturbing trend that has Ohio State coaches at 5-10-1 in their first game against Michigan, but Michigan coaches sit at 10-2-1 in their initial meeting with Ohio State.

The Buckeyes, who Las Vegas has installed as an eight and a half point underdog this weekend, are 6-0 against Michigan in the Jim Heacock era, allowing just over 14 points a game to the Wolverines in those six matchups. If you remove the 39 Michigan scored in the real Game of the Century, the #1 vs #2 game in 2006, the Buckeyes have allowed a paltry 9.6 per contest against UM, scoring 30.6 per game during that stretch.

Michigan's offense is ranked 34th nationally with 434 yards per game, and they currently have five players with over 30 carries that average over 5.4 yards per carry. The Wolverine offense has scored 44 touchdowns on the season, the Buckeyes have scored 33 (Wisconsin's Montee Ball has 30 by himself). Ohio State's offense, ranked 108th of 120 nationally, will be trying their hand against a much improved Michigan defense.

Last year, Michigan surrendered over 35 points a game to their opponents, but first-year DC Greg Mattison has them feeling confident and playing fundamentally sound and it shows - they are giving up only 15.6 per game this season; Ohio State is allowing 19 points a game to their opponents, over 5 points more per game than they have allowed in any years of the Heacock years.

"There's only room for one ass in this town"

NCAA CLARITY AROUND THE CORNER? Lost in the hoopla surrounding the impending hiring of Urban Meyer is the light at the end of the NCAA tunnel that the Buckeyes dug themselves into is almost able to be seen. The day that we keep hearing is next Monday, November 28th, and the final penalties from the NCAA, combined with the Urban Meyer deal (if it happens, just as a disclaimer), will finally put an end to one of the most difficult years in Ohio State football history.

What should you expect from the NCAA's Committee on Infractions? All indications are that Ohio State will avoid a bowl ban despite the addition of the failure to monitor to their newest NOA, received in early November. The self-imposed loss of five scholarships over the next three years will likely have two or three added to it, and the Buckeyes will be placed on probation for the same three year period. There is always a chance that the NCAA decides to institute a post-season ban, but currently the feelings are that they will avoid it.

URBAN IMPACT. Upon announcing his intentions to attend Ohio State next year, Adolphus Washington made some news when he claimed that he thought Urban Meyer would be the head coach at Ohio State next year. Some felt that Washington's belief was a contributing factor in his decison to choose Ohio State, and while it certainly didn't hurt, it was not a major factor - Adolphus was going to Ohio State regardless. In fact, he wanted to commit in early September but held off after an opposing B1G coach convinced him (temporarily) that Ohio State was likely to get hit had by the NCAA. Fortunately for Buckeye fans, reason and common sense prevailed, as Washington's commitment yesterday proved.

There are however going to be other recruits who had not been considering Ohio State for one reason or another, who will now start looking in the Buckeyes direction. One of them, Joel Caleb, has scheduled an official visit for December 2nd. Caleb has over 50 offers nationally, and is an option for the Buckeyes after Dwayne Stanford decided on Oregon. Another interesting name that is beginning to be thrown around is former Indiana commit and #1 ranked QB Gunner Kiel. Not saying there's anything to that right now, but if the rumors of LSU offensive line coach Greg Studwara joining the hypothetical staff of Urban Meyer come to fruition, it may be a rumor that picks up steam.

Urban Meyer's impact could be felt in a whole bunch of different areas for the Buckeyes. In his career at Florida, Urban was 16-2 in his career against his rivals at Georgia, Tennessee and Florida State (Thanks, Gerd). In his career Urban is 7-1 in bowl games, including 4-0 in BCS bowls (one at Utah, three with Florida).

The Buckeyes hardly need a program "turnaround", but if there's one guy who is qualified to continue the dominance established by Jim Tressel, it's Urban Meyer.  :BartScott:

BUFORD MOVING ON UP. With his 23 points on Wednesday night against VMI, Toledo native William Buford passed Jerry Francis to move into 16th on the Buckeyes all time scoring list. Coming into the season, Buford needed 174 points to move past Robin Freeman into tenth place. With a big season, roughly 19 points a game over 35 games, Buford has a shot to pass fellow Toledoan and Buckeye great Dennis Hopson to become the school's all-time leading scorer.

QUICK SLANTS. Which is your favorite? This? This? This? This (go to :48 seconds)? Or this?

Where are you headed, dood? The 9th ranked Buckeye hockey team signs four players for next year...In the spirit of the day, a Thanksgiving guide...Looking for the place to score Black Friday deals for nerds? Here's a helper... Aren't evil kids are cute?


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Hoody Wayes's picture

Happy Thanksgiving!

"... if there's one guy who is qualified to continue the dominance established by Jim Tressel, it's Urban Meyer."

Absolutely. The fact Meyer's available and Ohio State is in a transitional phase, mandates hiring him.

Ohio State is the best: that means getting the best players and the best coach.

Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football. If he's available, Ohio State must hire him.

Ohio State has been calibrated to win National Championships, since 1951, Woody Hayes' first year as head coach of the Buckeyes. This is a logical way to build and maintain a college football program. Aiming for the top doesn't mean you'll always get there. But, it's the best way to get there.

Paul Brown understood this. Woody Hayes understood this. Jim Tressel understands this.

Urban Meyer understands this. 

Go Bucks!


BuckeyeChris's picture



It's a shame this has been turned in to such a black and white issue:

"If you support Urban Meyer getting the tOSU job, well, you must hate Luke Fickell, wish a terrible disease upon him and have no appreciation for the situation in which he was placed at the start of the season." 

Menexenus's picture

If there's one guy who's qualified to continue the dominance established by Jim Tressel, it's Jim Tressel.

Real fans stay for Carmen.

TatumRuled's picture

And just think of the impact Meyer will have on recruiting. Not only will he have a stronghold on the Midwest, but he'll sweep up the fertile ground of Florida - all those kids who grew up wanting to play for him.

Worth every cent...

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

throttlefinger's picture

Happy T-day, and thanks for posting (before the insanity of the day begins)

What's your take on GlenOak running back Bri’onte Dunn? Is he teasing us with his commitment (and visiting UM as a fruit of his high ranking) or just waiting to see how the coaching and NCAA plays out? Or more pointedly, if Urban announces on Monday, he'll sign immediately?

Agree that Urban hire will lock one door in keeping the best talent in state and open new doors to FLA and other national talent. 

Hopefully this is a go. If so, I think he'll stand in Tressel's shadow for a much shorter time than any other hire and restore the program to prominence within 2-3 seasons. 

And I think UM is vastly overrated. A better defense and beating teams at home does not a great team make. If Fickell throws caution to the win and attacks, relentlessly and fearlessly, think we'll see a reply of the 2001 game. 

Go Bucks!

Hoody Wayes's picture

And I think UM is vastly overrated.

Agreed. Buckeye fans can be confident. Ohio State can beat Michigan, this Saturday.

Now that our offense can score and has an already productive Posey, the beckoning finger  points at our defense. Our defense can play. It just hasn't played its best game of the year, yet. It can do that, this Saturday and beat Michigan.

Stoneburner has caught something like 13 passes, this year. Seven of these were touchdowns. 

Jake Stoneburner could catch The Game-winner.

cplunk's picture

I think I recall hearing Dunn was LESS likely to become a Buckeye if Urban became head coach. Something about not liking the way Urban used his backs at Florida and preferring the power-type game run by the current offense (and by being instituted by Hoke at TSUN).

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

I think at this point Bri'onte is looking for reasons to NOT go to Ohio State.

That being said, if Luke and Urban are on the staff together, and get a chance to keep to talk to him together about his commitment to Ohio State, then I wouldn't be shocked if he reaffirmed his desire to play at Ohio State. It's telling that he has not publicly "decommitted", but he certainly seems to have a desire to go to UM right now.

ChuckR65's picture

Come on guys...don't believe the hype.  Urban is a product of the ESPN machine.  He's not as great a recruiter as ESPN would have you believe (Look at Florida these days).  Once the cupboard is bare he will cut and run.  He is a good coach and will win many games with Tressel's guys, but he will leave the program far worse than he found it.  Take a good hard look at what Luke has been able dto accomplish with this team.  He, like his players, has improved each week.  That hasn't always translated to wins, but these kids are better than they were at the beggining of the season.  A team with this much inexpiereience on both sides of the ball is going to loose some games, instead of blaming Luke for that, maybe we should re-examin our unrealistic expectations for this team.  This team also has better second halves than firsts, (Nebraska being the exception) another mark of a well coached team.  Then this week we see that even in the face of looming NCAA sanctions, Luke is able to land the #1 recruit in the state.  A Cincy kid no less!  We're going to throw away the next great Ohio State coach because Gene Smith isn't half the AD Andy Geiger was.  Gene is going to give into the pressure from fans and media.  He's going to drink the ESPNaide, and hire the next John Cooper.  All I can say is, be very careful what you wish for!

Jugdish's picture

I believe we all love Luke for what he has done at tOSU. There were too many growing pains for a first year coach. When Washington signed, he said he hoped that Meyer would be the coach. I have been really pulling for Luke the whole season because he is a Buckeye through and through. Maybe in 4-7 years, Luke will be ready to take over as head coach, but for now we need Meyer IMO.

Remember to get your wolverine spayed or neutered. TBDBITL

tampa buckeye's picture

I hope Luke stays so we can see more of Hyde in the wildcat.  That was pure genius.  

Jugdish's picture

I don't think that defensive coaches call too many plays.

Remember to get your wolverine spayed or neutered. TBDBITL

dbit's picture

You're right he doesn't. 


But he does have the authority to tell Bollman he's an idiot...  Inaction may be just as bad in this case.  Ask JoePa about inaction... (too soon?)

throttlefinger's picture

Disagree with you there, Chuck.

Anyone who can lead Utah to a BCS game then make the transition to a powerhouse FLA post-legendary coach leaving THEN make most of the faithful almost forget Spurrier, that's no hype. That's a proven commodity. He may not deliver a championship in the first 3 years, but we'll be in the big dance by 5. 

And, most importantly, go back to Tressel-era expectations of Big 10 champions viewed as a secondary accomplishment. 

BuckeyeSaab's picture

He, like his players, has improved each week.

What?  Improved each week?  Did you mean to post that on an Ohio State blog?

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

luckynewman13's picture

I was shocked at that sentence as well

especially the seniors...they have all regressed


Buckeyejason's picture

" He's not as great a recruiter as ESPN would have you believe (Look at Florida these days)"

Is this serious? He had perhaps arguably the highest ranked recruiting class ever 2 years ago. The D-lineman and linebackers alone that he brought in were unreal: Floyd, Powell, Jenkins, and that kid from New York that dominated the UnderArmour All-American game. He could recruit better than any one in the country, go back and look at Rivals and Scout if you don't believe me.

Its not Urbans fault that Mushchamp is another fickell.. and can't win games with elite talent.


AcrossTheField11's picture

While I appricate Luke Fickell and what he's done this year you kind of sound ignorant here.  The cupboard was not bare at UF when he left and he is one hell of a recruiter. 

2006 UF class - #2
2007 UF class - #1
2008 UF class - #12
2009 UF class - #21 (only had 15 schollies)
2010 UF class - #1

Queue retirement. 

And lets not forget that they would have had Cam Newton had everything gone as planned.

And I actually had to read this "He, like his players, has improved each week." twice.  If you're telling me that they improved between the Wisc game and the Purdue game then you, sir, are bat shit crazy.


Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Buckeyejason's picture

Thankyou! The guy has no idea what's he's talking about..he's a Meyer hater, as well as a blind Fickell supporter.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone by the way!


BuckeyeChris's picture

 From the Dispatch today...

"Ohio State leaders reportedly zeroed in on Meyer several weeks ago, according to the sources, an effort that accelerated after OSU’s upset loss at Purdue that, for all intents and purposes, took the Buckeyes out of the running for the Big Ten championship." (emphasis, mine)

Maybe November 12, 2011, wasn't such a bad day after all. Of course, we hate when our team loses, but hindsight?

cal3713's picture

I didn't realize Urban Meyer only had 8 bowl trips under his belt.  Jesus, he's young.

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

People forget that he's not even 50, all that early success makes it easy to think he's been around for a lot longer.

cal3713's picture

And personally, I love that 98ish yard TD run from last year with the great block from Sanzenbacher that got called back on bullshit.

faux_maestro's picture


Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

ogdirtyd's picture

Just wanted to share this with everyone this morning! My buddy who is a student coach at OSU sent a text to me last night saying that as of Sunday, the whole staff EXCEPT Luke Fickell will be released. He was told to be at the facility on Sunday to help Haycock clean out his office  He said that Fickell is the only member of the current staff that is going to be retained! I asked him who was going to coach us in our bowl game and he said that he was told that Urban already has his staff in place and will coach tOSU in our bowl game this year.  Looks like everything is a done deal! Lets hope that Bollman will actually get creative Saturday with his play calling since this will be his last game! <-----  That wont happen, but its worth hoping for! Not that the players need to be inspired to play in this game, but hopefully they come out with a fire lit under their butts and try to get these coaches one last win as a Buckeye! Hope everyone has a happy turkey day!

Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye 'til I'm dead.


beserkr29's picture

Please forgive my cynicism, I've had far too many KITNs for my liking, but this sounds a little too drastic.  I don't see how Fickell wouldn't be coaching the bowl game at the very least, even if he loses to Michigan (I just puked a little typing that).  Seems like poor form, and there's not much that Meyer could really do without an entire offseason and spring practice to put in his system.  I sincerely hope you're right, but I just don't see how the administration could do that.  Would it bother me all that much?  No.  But seems a little too disrespectful to the staff to have that happen.  Happy Thanksgiving!  Go Bucks, Kill Blue!

RBuck's picture

Not gonna happen. The staff that Meyer reportedly wants will mostly be coaching in bowl games themselves. Haycock may be cleaning out his office on Sunday but Heacock isn't.

Long live the southend.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

Actaully my friend, who works in Directory Services at Ohio State, told me he has already recieved the change request to revoke Haycock's ID's tomorrow.  So it looks like he'll be gone even sooner!

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

Buckeyejason's picture

I'm ready for change. Heacock and his soft zone D can go.


luckynewman13's picture

Ohio State defensive ranking by year (points allowed):

2010: 3

2009: 5

2008: 7

2007: 1

2006: 2

2005: 7

I can't believe we're actually considering letting Heacock go. Our fanbase has extreme short-term memory problems

luckynewman13's picture

Now for the offense:

2010: 11

2009: 49

2008: 45

2007: 37

2006: 7

2005: 28

Heacock as been doing just fine with the talent he's been given, not so much for the Bollman/Tressel side of the ball.

IMHO, Heacock and his soft zone can stay for life.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Agreed. This defense has been so consistently good. Heacock does not deserve the door. I posted a few weeks ago that I wasn't completely sold on LSU's defense because I just think the SEC offenses are abysmal (dare I say offensive) this year. My reasoning was that West Virginia and Oregon both put up solid offensive numbers against the, but made stupid mistakes and commited dumb turnovers and penalties and lost despite significantly outgaining LSU in total yards. West Virginia managed 533!!! yards on LSU's vaunted defense. Do you know the last time Ohio State gave up over 500 yards of offense to an opponent? Minnesota 2005. It's been over SIX years. In that time, we saw the likes of USC (Sanchez and Barkley) twice, Colt McCoy and Texas twice, Tebow/Leake and Florida, effing OREGON, Mallet and Arkansas, and yet we never surrendered more than 500 yards to ANY of those teams. Over six years without surrendering 500 yards, despite playing top notch offenses like Oregon, Wisconsin, Arkansas, USC, Texas, and M*chigan under RichRod (who - despite a horrid defense - actually had a hell of an offense... 8th in the country at 488.67 ypg last year).

Heacock must stay.

Buckeyejason's picture

I'm well aware of that. I still wouldn't mind change all around, defense included.


luckynewman13's picture

Would you mind giving areason for this? Who would you replace him with? Who could we get with a better track record? (hint: it rhymes with "pobody")

beserkr29's picture

Kirby Smart or John Chavis come to mind.  Charlie Strong, if Louisville decides to fire him.  I think that'd be a mistake, but the Cardinals aren't exactly tearing it up. 

blazers34's picture

there is ZERO chance of Charlie Strong being fired.  Signed an extension this year, they love him down there, and someow, they still have a shot at the orange bowl

luckynewman13's picture

Kirby Smart is getting paid more at Alabama than we would pay him here, and he's geting paid more than he's worth because Saban is the architect of the defense. I don't see how Chavis is an upgrade, sure he won Assistant coach of the year in 2006, but Heacock won it in 2007. Chavis has had a good run with LSU, but he hasn't proven he can do it without the benefit of oversigning.

At best, both of these suggestions are lateral moves. Heacock has continued the proud tradition of great buckeye defenses, one year out of the top ten is a ridiculous excuse to let him go...especially considering our offense doesn;t give him field position to work with.

beserkr29's picture

I agree, the offense has done Heacock no favors most of the times that he has been here.  In my opinion, however, he's far too willing to let opposing offenses do whatever they want.  Too often we play soft zone when we could be going for the kill.  This year is anamoly because of just how poor the LBs are as a unit (except for Shazier, that young man is death on two legs), how depleted our line is and how young we are in the secondary.  Next year would be far better.  Further, I think that there needs to be a general cleaning of the proverbial house.  Heacock pulled far more of his weight than any of the remaining offensive staff ever did, but he's still associated with Tress.  Personally, I'd get rid of Fickell too, but I would understand if they brought him back. 

luckynewman13's picture

Heacock is actually a holdover from the Cooper era, that may not be a argument in his favor necessarily but its clear that many people have recognized his skills as a great defensive mind.

Buckeyejason's picture



luckynewman13's picture

"This" what? You still haven't supplied a reasonable alternative, or provided evidence that Heacock's scheme has been ineffective. You win by scoring points and by preventing the other team from scoring points. Who has been better in the last 6 years at preventing opponenets from scoring points? And do we have a realistic shot at getting him?

Saban, not Kirby, owns the defense at Alabama. I would take Dantonio but he's not going to take a demotion. John Chavis is an interesting name but he wouldn't take a bunch of cash to go home to Georgia, so why would he come here? (the word "home" is important here, Ohio State hires people with ties to the program, no RichRods here).

I don't mean to sound so strident, but if this man is out there I want him just as badly as you do...but I don't think he exists.

If you want Fick just to become d coordinator then we'll just have to agree to disagree...I would take Heacock 100 times out of 100 over Fick because Heacock is a proven commodity and has no other ambitions, Heacock already has his dream job.


luckynewman13's picture

Also, here is why Meyer will not get rid of Heacock:

"After Bruce was fired by Ohio State after the 1987 season, Meyer went to Illinois State to work under Jim Heacock, who is the defensive coordinator now at — where else? — Ohio State."

Unless they had some horrible falling out I don't know about.

Buckeyejason's picture

Dude Give it a rest, I simply could care less if Heacock leaves because I've seen the D shit the bed enough in big games due to soft schemes and lack of execution. If he stays then great, I wont lose any sleep from it.


Max's picture

My friend, who works at the Citgo, said his mom heard that her neighbor's thrid cousin knows a grad assistant on the women's volleyball team who dates a guy in the cafeteria who brings meals to the janitor at Morril who runs a car cleaning service that Gene Smith's college roomate drives past on his way to Starbucks, said everyone is being fired BEFORE the game.


Sometimes you guys do not make me proud to be a Buckeye.


Luckily there's a game on Saturday, and my ass will be there...

buckeyedude's picture

My friend, who works at the Citgo, said his mom heard that her neighbor's thrid cousin knows a grad assistant on the women's volleyball team who dates a guy in the cafeteria who brings meals to the janitor at Morril who runs a car cleaning service that Gene Smith's college roomate drives past on his way to Starbucks, said everyone is being fired BEFORE the game.


Hey! I know that dude!



luckynewman13's picture

I hope this is not true, I thought we would keep Heacock...he has earned the right to stay regardless of what the defense played like this year.

buckeye20's picture

I have to admit, I had some of your thoughts initially as well.  But Chuck...stop and think about this for a second.  Ohio State is one of the top 5 programs in college football.  The program needs a CEO like any other large corporation.  Before Fickell can be the boss here he needs to be a boss somewhere else and run his own program.  Meyer is nowhere near a John Cooper.  He has had tremendous success everywhere he has been and he is available.  Not to mention he is an Ohio guy, former Buckeye grad assistant and got his masters from TOSU.  He is a perfect fit.  Name one more coach in college football that you would want to run this program.  I can't think of one besides Meyer.  He is the guy and will own the recruiting trail and bring us an offense that has some imagination. 

We have to hire him.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

I just fell in love all over again with Fickell...I'm so glad he will be staying on the staff with the burden he has taken on himself this year

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Ethan's picture

Happy Thanksgiving all! 


Jeremy, where are you hearing your information about Gunner Kiel? While I'm all for stockpiling elite talent, I'm not sure where it makes a lot of sense from Kiel's side of things, given Urban's penchant for the spread and Braxton Miller's presence. Is this speculation, or did you hear this from a trusted source? 

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

It's speculaton from a trusted source. =) Like I said, probably nothing right now, and probably nothing when all is said and done, but if Coach Stud comes along, it becomes a bit more likely.

Brutus's picture

This will probably get scoffed at because it will sound like I'm giving Bollman the benefit of the doubt, which he absolutely doesn't deserve, but does anyone else think that maybe the reason we've seen this completely ridiculous wildcat the last few weeks is because they plan to unveil a new wrinkle against Michigan? I know, I know, innovation is not Bollman's strong suit. We always used to say that JT kept some tricks up his sleeve for Michigan and every year we were wrong. But this wildcat is just so damn stupid and ineffective that I can hardly believe that the actual intent is merely to get two power rbs in at the same time to confuse the defense as to which one will run off tackle. What's really confusing is that Miller lines up as a wideout. Defenses aren't even giving him a second look out there. I thought the purpose of the wildcat was to either get the ball into the hands of an RB that can throw or get the ball back into the hands of the QB as sort of a flea flicker type of play. We haven't seen them attempt to do that even once, but for the last two or three games, they keep lining up in the wildcat and doing nothing with it. It seems like now would be a great time to mix things up a little. Here's to wishful thinking.

btalbert25's picture

I think we could see Posey in the Wildcat today.  Dude throws a better ball then the last Boeckman, Pryor, and Braxton.  That play with him in the wildcat was brilliant.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him back there and he'll actually throw it. 

throttlefinger's picture

Don't think that was his intention. I do know given the news of the last week, he will be freed from the expectation that his job is on the line. This may free him up to try more wrinkles. Perhaps even confident enough to Boom and Hyde for a screen (wild 'n insane, I know?!?). He's auditioning now, so if Bollman has a bag of tricks — many would argue he doesn't have a bag of good plays — this is the game to use it. Key to this game is hit UM's D early, get them doubting themselves and playing on their heels the whole game. We'll see if this team can play with purpose AND a game plan.

faux_maestro's picture

We always used to say that JT kept some tricks up his sleeve for Michigan and every year we were wrong.


I remember a few wrinkles by Tressel against scUM. Ted Ginn as a tight end in one of those goal line looks, play action, TOUCHDOWN (2006). I think JT did pull a few things out of his hat.

Your mom told me she wants a Dicken Cidar.

BTwrestle04's picture

Moar Jordan Hall throwing TD passes (last year anyone?). In all seriousness, the Wildcat brings nothing to the table when you have as good of a runner as Braxton at QB.

TatumRuled's picture

I really love Fick (too bad he is just not ready to be a head coach...yet) and I hope in the coming days he'll speak his mind and be less PC.

What's he gotta lose?

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

costinjr's picture

Does urban run the spread when he comes here, or do you all think he'll change it up to accommodate our current personnel. If so, how does everyone feel about the spread?

DJ Byrnes's picture

honestly im trying to wrap my head around the idea of ohio state aggressively scoring points.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Buckeyejason's picture


I've been thinking the same thing


Buckeyejason's picture

The spread is better than anything we've fielded on offense this season.


dbit's picture

Any chance Jaamal Berry's career gets resurrected and becomes a star (assuming he is the fast RB that people say)?

Colin's picture

Really it only makes me feel bad for running backs like Carlos Hyde and then Zach Boren....Zach is one of our best players and probably won't be used very much.

btalbert25's picture

Hyde has a lot of speed too, he's a bruiser but I think he'd be alright coming out of the backfield as well. 

blazers34's picture

Deshaun Wynn did pretty well at UF.  Hyde could be fine

faux_maestro's picture

I believe Urbz first year or 2 he had a full back that he utilized in an almost traditional full back role or as a tight end/H-back. They will use what they have.

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faux_maestro's picture

I would like to be the first to welcome our new spread offense overlords...

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Buckeyejason's picture

Why would you feel sorry for Hyde, he'll be playing ALOT both next year and 13' regardless of system


headina's picture

plus he fumbled at a crucial time against penn state


Bucks43201's picture

I still think that 98 yard run that Boom Herron had last year vs. Michigan was one of my favorites. Too bad it was called back on a phantom holding call on Sanzo. Total BS call.

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faux_maestro's picture

I'm partial to video #4. I was at the 2001 game in AA (my only time there and I may never go back).

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