Monday Skull Session

By DJ Byrnes on November 14, 2011 at 6:00a
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 RT: @medical_sword: *dog pulls you out of a mass of twisted wires*"welcome to afterland. thats right, im a dog and so are you. woof? heh...theres no woofs here"

I'd write some crazy diatribe about losing to Purdue, but I think I'm over it. Frankly, I'm over this whole season, which was squandered over a few thousand dollars of cash and some lousy tattoos. (*sigh*) I normally hate college basketball, but with actual basketball currently locked out, I guess I'll start watching Ohio State basketball when they're playing respectable competition. (What's good on Tuesday at 8:00 PM at the Schott, #8 Florida Gators?)

Before we get to the latest sickening revelation in the Penn State saga, I must ask a personal favor of the fine readers of this website. If any of y'all would be interested in parting with a pair of Penn State tickets (for $$), would you be kind enough to Tweet me or sling me an email?  Remember, there are homeless people on High St. with more money in their styrofoam cups than I have in my bank account; so please don't come to me if you expect payment in bricks of gold. Also, I ain't interested in C-Deck tickets. (I actually like the people I'm getting these tickets for.)

THE LATEST "ARE YOU SERIOUS?" REVELATION FROM THE JERRY SANDUSKY CASE. I remember thinking last week how bizarre it was for Jerry Sandusky to still have his freedom. Well, that's no longer a mystery, but it's answer is as sickening as every turn in this story seems to be.

The prosecutors originally wanted a $500,000 bail set for Sandusky. The judge of the case, Leslie Dutchcot, struck the motion down and set bail at an unsecured $100,000. The madness was taken to another level when it was revealed Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer at Sandusky's Second Mile charity. This inanity is why I agree with Fox Sports' Jason Whitlock: the Federal government needs to handle this investigation and prosecution.

(Also related: Penn State is about to get sued out of its britches, and "At Penn State's Stadium, Profanity, Scorn Greet One Father's Protest.")

YES, JOE SCHAD ACTUALLY TWEETED THIS. I'm sure most of you have seen Notre Dame's hideous throwback helmet from their game against Maryland last Saturday, but I'd like to draw your attention to an especially ridiculous Tweet from Joe Schad:

Joe Schad is a grown ass man.

Only Joe Schad could look at a piece of painted plastic used to prevent head trauma and call it "magical." I'd love to sit Joe Schad down and have him explain to me magical powers one of these helmets posses. If they are indeed magical, then maybe Notre Dame should've worn them every game this year and allowed the magical helmets to keep their BCS hopes alive.

[[i have nothing witty to say]]My reaction to the city of West Lafayette, Indiana.

BAD TO WORSE FOR OL' NATTI. Just as Cincinnati began to climb its way back into the AP's Top 25 -- thus, once again igniting the whole "Cincinnati is the best team in Ohio" troll argument -- the Bearcats got skinned in their own house, 24-21 by West Virginia.

To compound the matter, their formidable quarterback, Zach Collaros, will have season-ending surgery on his ankle. Cincinnati must be extra salty too considering Collaros is a senior.

Cincinnati is definitely the second best program in the state. Why doesn't Ohio State play them every year? I'd love nothing more than for Ohio State to have an in-state rival -- a scrappy little brother who brings out the best in OSU. Why couldn't it be Cincinnati?

CHAOS IN THE HEISMAN RANKS. Now that Oregon finally exposed Stanford (something I've been waiting for all year), Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden has made his move to the top of most people's Heisman charts. I think the Heisman is dumb, but Oklahoma State's offensive attack is one of the best I've seen in recent memory, so I think their field marshall deserves the spot. (Personally, I hope Andrew Luck never completes another pass at Stanford so he can fall to the Cleveland Browns, who will have the #3 pick in the 2012 NFL draft.)

OHIO STATE'S BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP DREAMS ARE NOT SHATTERED YET. Think a mind-numbing overtime loss to Purdue could end Ohio State's Big Ten Championship run? Not so fast, my friend! (/leecorsovoice). While Ohio State was never in the driver's seat since dropping their first two conference games, they're now "sitting in the 3rd row of a sputtering minivan." It may take a small act of God in order for Ohio State to be playing in the inaugural Big Ten Championship game on December 3rd in Indianapolis, but still, hope remains.

INTRANAT LINKZ. 911 prank callers target couple over 150 times... The Rubber Duck knows no frontier... Five myths about J. Edgar Hoover... LOLWUT???... Seattle's underground history of bad plumbing and prostitutes... Sweet time lapse video of Earth from the space-station... A Zen Diagram... The face of the 2011 Cleveland Browns

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Denny's picture

Luke and I saw a guy in the stands who at ND/Maryland who was magical and amazing. The helmets? Not so much.

Taquitos.

Normal Buck's picture

I'd love nothing more than for Ohio State to have an in-state rival -- a scrappy little brother who brings out the best in OSU. Why couldn't it be Cincinnati?

Probably because the Bucks usually come out against UC about as flat as they have the past two weekends.

Denny's picture

I've thought the same thing about WVU for the past 8 years or so. Less embarrassment in losing to them though, most years.

Taquitos.

onetwentyeight's picture

I'd rather there not be another viable D-1 program contending in the state. Look at the SEC - LSU is basically the only relatively populated state in the South (sorry Arkansas) where they don't have an in-state D-1 school to compete with in recruiting (Tulane was once upon a time ... but they let Houston put up 70+ on them the other day). Hence why it has been so easy for the Mad Hatter to horde talent. 

RBuck's picture

I do not want Cincy to even be close to relevant in Ohio. OSU has a hard enough time recruiting that area as it is.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Hoody Wayes's picture

Cincy = Meyer Country.

BuckeyeChris's picture

So.... I am really hung up on this NCAA thing. You would think that the NCAA would want to encourage as opposed to discourage programs to self-report and cooperate with their investigations.

Assuming we get the hammer (2 season bowl ban, additional loss of schollies, in addition to what has already been SELF-imposed), hasn't the NCAA sent a very clear message to other programs? "Don't be dumb. Don't be Ohio State. If you self-report, we'll just dig deeper over the course of an entire year and find all the stuff you aren't telling us about. We'll leave your progam in limbo for a calendar year and then hammer your program upon completion of our thorough/year-long investigation.

Instead, be like Auburn. Lie, deny and move on."

Seriously, if you are ...any other big-time program, isn't the lesson from the past year, "Do not, under any circumstances, self-report to the NCAA."

 

Buckeye Chuck's picture

I'm not sure you get self-reporting points for admitting things that would have been uncovered eventually anyway. The NCAA was all over the campus once Tatgate broke out--and the key issue with Tatgate was not self-reporting (the failure of the coach to inform anyone that he had 5 ineligible players in the lineup for the entire 2010 season).

The Buckeyes are nobody's victims here, is what I'm saying.

I could get behind Weeden for the Heisman, but I think you really have to look into the defense situation in the Big 12 (namely, there isn't any). And I'm assuming there will be some kind of age-related backlash against him like there was for Chris Weinke, not that it stopped Weinke from winning the award.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

awwwwwwop's picture

If our players weren't sellling their stuff and taking money from boosters, there wouldn't be anything to find.  I think self-reporting is the way to go.  The lesson from this is more likely to never send emails. ever. and if you do get an email, then you have to report.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Buckeye06's picture

At this current time, I'm hoping OSU wins out and ends up in a Florida Bowl game so I can drive there on the 1st. 

 

I would like the Gator Bowl the most because I have a few gator fans in Miami who I'd go up with and talk shit with the entire time.

 

SLVRBLLTS's picture

That's my silver lining in a season like this; living in Tampa and rooting for a bowl game down here. Outback Bowl is <5 minutes from my house. That would be nice to walk to a buckeye game again.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

Tim's picture

We can at least say that no team in the country will go to a New Year's Day bowl game this year, so it's not just us (1/1 a Sunday and they're apparently not challenging the NFL).

osubucks10's picture

Why do you guys have someone on here that doesn't care for Buckeye Basketball writing on here?...

loss of credibility..

SLVRBLLTS's picture

Asking for cheap tix too and ripping on C deck.. I thought the same thing.
 

"Because we couldn't go for three"

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

+1 to both posts.

Anyone who legitimately thinks the NBA is "real" basketball is not right in the head.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

Morgan's picture

or, you know, they could be joking. that happens here sometimes.

Denny's picture

You seem to be operating under the assumption that people understand jokes.

Taquitos.

btalbert25's picture

So what have I missed in the last couple of days that have so many assuming Ohio State is getting the Hammer from the NCAA.  I know there is the FTM charge now, but I thought the general opinion was there still wasn't going to be a post season ban.  I thought Alex even went so far to say that he'd be shocked if there was a bowl ban, or at least something along those lines.  Is it just people preparing for the worst or did some other kind of information come out that I missed?

NW Buckeye's picture

No new info.  Just the horde being pessimistic.  That way they won't be so upset if the sanctions are what they predict. 

 

Baroclinicity's picture

It's true. 

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

L-TownNut11's picture

Who makes a bigger impact vs. Penn St......posey or shugarts assuming both play?

btalbert25's picture

Posey will if they let him throw a couple of passes. 

Buckeyejason's picture

Shugarts will make a bigger impact..a negative one with his false starts. Posey will be lucky to get one catch in the next 2 games.

BUCKEYES BABY!

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Let's see, DJ thinks the Heisman is dumb, doesn't care about Buckeye Basketball, and rips on C-deck.

I'm starting to think DJ is a Fake-ass Buckeye.

NW Buckeye's picture

My tickets on on the 45 yard line in D deck (yes there is a D deck - it is the extended area in C deck) - best seats in the house.  I would never sit anywhere else. C deck is not so bad either. 

Baroclinicity's picture

A tad harsh.  Not everyone likes hoops, the Heisman in this day in age is an overrated popularity contest and doesn't mean a lot, and he doesn't want to get C Deck tickets for other people going to the game.  No biggie.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

onetwentyeight's picture

Screw the Heisman. Seriously

Morally pompous award that is only given to (qbs and RBs), awarded by some random collection of dudes who can also retroactively decide to rescind what you "won" (yes i know Bush forfeited but we all know that was to save face before the Trust rescinded it). But its not as if anyone will forget that Reggie bush played in the year 2005 and was pretty darn good.

Call me fake. 

 

 

osukdawg76's picture

Heisman - Nothing more than an MVP trophy to the QB/RB of the best team in the country.  He's spot on.

Basketball - A lot of people don't like basketball.  I do not agree with him, but I have plenty of friends that don't give a damn about the sport, even if the Buckeyes are good at it.

C-Deck - I don't like C-Deck either.  I've sat up there once for a game, and I never want to do it again.

Lay off of DJ.  Just because his opinions do not match your own doesn't mean a damn thing other than he thinks differently.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

Luke's picture

Dunno, man. Fake ass Buckeye DJ looks pretty legit to me:

German Buckeye's picture

Why would Posey even play?  Red shirt him so he can come back with a year of eligibility.  Is he even in serious consideration for above a 4th rd NFL draft pick? 

RBuck's picture

Can't do it. Even if he was suspended flr the whole season, it counts toward a year of eligibility used. Otherwise there would really be no punishment...NCAA rule.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Bucksfan's picture

You're not allowed to red-shirt in years where the NCAA rules you ineligible, as I understand it.

jfrank373's picture

Same website that rips Herbie for being a professional journalist, even though I know he works for the enemy, but allows pimping cheap tickets (see sidebar for 11W Tickets, right?), knocks the stadium, the Heisman trophy, and Buckeye Basketball in favor of the NBA? Huh...

Denny's picture

Yeah why even bother putting the authors' names at the top of the articles? I mean they all write on the same website.

Taquitos.

Buckeyejason's picture

Damn dudes lay off DJ already. He speaks his mind..or writes it(whatevs) I applaud him for that.

BUCKEYES BABY!

OSUNeedles's picture

An inside realtor friend of mine tells me that JoePa is looking for a place in Upper Arlington... I smell coaching candidate!!!

onetwentyeight's picture

Keep doing your thing DJ. Haterz gon hate.

 

I for one look forward to all the entertaining stuff he writes, whether or not I agree with him.  

BuckeyeSki's picture

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

Maestro's picture

I am with you on this one DJ, kinda over this season.  

That said, as soon as I heard that Philly Brown was out and Underwood was starting at right tackle my stomach turned.  There simply is no replacement for experience, especially on the road.

Very much looking forward to Spring Football and a new coaching regime.  As much as I hate it for Fickell because he really hasn't been given a chance to succeed.  I would love to see him back with a chance to hire his own offensive staff, but I don't think it's gonna happen...........sadly.

vacuuming sucks

Maestro's picture

and Montee Ball should be in every Heisman discussion.  Dude has 27 TD's already.  Ridiculous.

vacuuming sucks

Denny's picture

Champagne wishes, etc.

Taquitos.

btalbert25's picture

I love the Heisman, but hate what it's become.  It should go to the best player in America.  The fact that Stanford lost a game shouldn't disqualify Luck from winning the Heisman.  I hate the fact that basically you have to be the best player on one of the best teams, or break some major record to win that award.  Every year, it seems like a guy gets a snub for the invite to New York simply because his team has a poor record. 

Buckeyejason's picture

Can someone explain why we don't even bother to make Stoneburner a weapon anymore, or Philly Brown, or throwing some dump off passes to Boren..quick fullback dives to Boren...oh that's right Bolman!!!

And what the hell was up with all of those Bauserbombs Braxton was throwing? I've never shook my head so much in a span of 3 hours as I do watching this offense and lack of anything besides a handoff week in and week out.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Denny's picture

Receivers had separation on the long passes - the wind was pretty clearly causing a lot of issues on the overthrows.

Taquitos.

Maestro's picture

The 4 WR's that made the trip to West Lafayette were Devin Smith, Evan Spencer, T.Y. Williams and Chris Fields..........enough said.  All may have bright futures, but as for the present those guys aren't putting much fear into opposing defenses.  

Denny is right though you could see on the first punt of the game by Buchanan that the wind was going to be an issue.  Miller has a hard enough time hitting receivers in perfect weather conditions, mix in a strong wind and you might as well just run QB draws.

vacuuming sucks

timdogdad's picture

the good news after saturday's game is that we can turn right around in the last two weeks and win both games. we all know how good this team can play. up 26-6 on nebraska and 26-14 on wisconsin? i still can't believe how we we're shutting down wisc.- the rushing stats were unreal for most of the game. montee ball had like 20 yards on 12 carries.  anyway, we need to have that team resurface and i fully expect it.  anything less this week and especially next week is unacceptable. lets bridge the last two games and bowl game towards getting a new coach and staff plus a decision from the ncaa. 

    

DJ Byrnes's picture

1. I do not like college basketball. I watch the Buckeyes, but only when they're good and only when they're playing somebody who has a chance to beat them. I have no interest in watching them destroy somebody like Jackson State. I prefer the NBA -- it's my favorite sport -- and find college bball to be boring and poorly played. I realize this would be an upopular opinion on this website, but whatever. It's my opinion.

2. The Heisman is very dumb. I hate everything about it. Do not get me started on the ridiculousness of the Heisman trophy and the dumb regalia surrounding it.

3. I had student tickets in 2008 in C-Deck, and left with headaches and motion sickness after every home game. As for the price, I will gladly pay market value, I was just saying don't come to me with that "I got two C-Deck tickets for $150 a pair" jive. I haven't been to an OSU game since Pryor's fumble against PSU in 2008. The tickets are for my brother and father. My dad is old... I doubt he could even see from C-Deck. If this is considered "knocking" Ohio Stadium, then I guess I'm guilty as charged?

4. If these opinions make me a fake Buckeye, then that's fine with me. I am not "THE BIGGEST BUCKEYE FAN EVER OMGAHSHA!!!! O-H!!!!!!!!!!!!" I am simply a guy with the state of Ohio tattooed on his torso, so plz spare me your cruel internet barbs. My feelings are fragile and I'm in the middle of a tea party with Suzy B. Fuzzington and Mr. Binxy the Dragon.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

slippy's picture

You're allowed to have your opinions.  I won't jump on you for that.

 

I will disagree about college bball being poorly played compared to the 'defense' in the NBA but oh well.

 

Heisman (what it's become at least) is dumb.

 

My problem with the tickets is if I asked for it in the comments I would probably be told to take it to the forum, but you get the stage.  We're here for news.

DJ Byrnes's picture

- Thank you for allowing me to have opinions, Slippy. You are certainly a benevolent overlord.

- The "No Defense in the NBA" argument! Nice! I would ask though, have you ever tried to guard somebody who can shoot 85% from 3-point range in an empty gym? Or a 6'9" 270 power foward who runs like a gazelle? Entirely different proposition than guarding somebody like freaking Greg Paulus.

- Heisman is dumb.

- I guess this is a good as time as any to make my debut on this alleged forum we have. Apologies on any creeds which I have broken. I meant no harm. *hops into time machine, waives to you all, dials it back to '2005', and vanishes under a plume of smoke*

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

onetwentyeight's picture

Yeah as one of the fellow last 15 die hard NBA fans left it angers me when ppl trot out the usual BS about the NBA : no D, players only play hard during playoffs, players too selfish, no fundamentals, spoiled brats, HOMG CORNROWS AND TATS, etc. 

 

But I learned long ago that its useless to try and explain, ESPECIALLY to those college bball fans who feel the need to disparage the NBA at each turn (inferority complex much?). I just stfu about it now and enjoy the NBA myself (or as of late, crying myself to sleep wondering WHY 50/50 isnt equal...)  while avoiding CBball like the plague. 

slippy's picture

Wow thanks for being a dick.  I was just trying to point out that I'm not going to be one of the people on here jumping on you for not liking something so you didn't take offense with me disagreeing and stating my opinion.

 

I haven't tried to guard an NBA player.  It's not an entirely different proposition because they're being guarded by OTHER NBA PLAYERS.  They're all freak athletes.  That guy who shoots 85% is being guarded by a dude with an 8 ft wingspan.  That 6'9" 270 lb guy is being guarded by a dude who's taller and runs faster.

 

I just get mad becuase they don't even attempt most of the time.  You can watch NBA players not even try to play defense.  Ehlo was trying to play on Jordan.  I get you can't always contest the best players' shots.  But when I see highlights of Lebron just dribble from outside the arc to the basket without anyone stepping in his way it's ridiculous.

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Two C Deck tickets at Ohio Stadium as an alumni cost $150.

So the "$150 a pair jive" is market value.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

DJ Byrnes's picture

1) OSU be raking on yall in C-Deck. 2) That's face value, not (black) market value.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Stadium filled to capacity for the Indiana game; face value = market value.

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

DJ Byrnes's picture

... so if its just about capacity when deciding "market value", why were tickets above face value for the 1/2 OSU-Michigan game years back? ((There are many factors which go into deciding a tickets market value. Just talk to your local scalper about this)).

 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

ArTbkward's picture

The tickets are worth only what someone is willing to pay.  If demand is higher than supply, prices go up (OSU v scUM), if supply is higher than demand then prices go down.  It's all economics really.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

Buckeyejason's picture

DJ straight up tellin fools to "deal with it". Amen brotha.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

I'm a guy that played Basketball all the way through High School and was all league, loved it when I was younger...but the older I get it just seems more and more like a watered down sport. Could care less if the NBA plays another game..and I only bother to watch the Buckeyes if they are playing someone decent as well.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Baroclinicity's picture

My 2 cents, and maybe I'm wrong, but to me, the NBA has a lot of great athletes.  I don't think there are as many great basketball players.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

DJ Byrnes's picture

So what happens to all the great basketball players from the NCAA when they reach the NBA? Do their skills get stolen from them like in Space Jam?

The NBA is littered with the unfulfilled careers of freakish athletes who didn't have the skills to compete. Check the #4 pick of the NBA draft this year for another soon-to-be lesson in the matter.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Baroclinicity's picture

I think maybe you answered your own question.  I think, more and more, that the better basketball players aren't getting drafted as opposed to the better athletes.  Since you bring up the Cavs (I think they had #4 Thompson), look at what they drafted in Diop years back.  The guy had even hardly played, but since he was tall and had potential potential (do you like that?), they drafted him like 8th or something.  In hindsight, I bet there were 100 different guys that would have been better draft picks that weren't the ideal basketball physical specimens. 

And then others... Stromile Swift, Tracy McGrady... I just see these guys as a different category of players than the Clyde Drexlers, Karl Malones, Larry Nanceseses, etc.  Nor am I saying better athletes are total flops in the NBA.  I'm definitely making an overall generalization, but that's just what it seems like on my end, that some of the better basketball players (not all) are not seen at the next level.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

osukdawg76's picture

Did anyone actually read that article about the protester at the Penn State game?  If any Penn State fans wonder why the rest of the nation is hammering them with ridicule, that one article should be your guiding light to clarity. 

"This is about the football players."  That student should be shot out of a fucking cannon into the Sun.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

DJ Byrnes's picture

There are a myriad of disturbing yet darkly humorous passages in that article:

 

“That’s [expletive], guy,” another said.

Of course a Penn State fan is going to call somebody "guy."

A burly man wearing a “JoePa” T-shirt strode up, wrestled away the sign urging abused kids be put first from Matko’s right hand and slammed it to the ground.

After reading the signs, another woman glowered at Matko.

“This is in bad taste,” she said.

Facts, logic: in bad taste at Penn State.

The sweet smell of kettle korn and smoke from barbecue up the street drifted past two women as they split a 40-ounce bottle of Mickey’s Fine Malt Liquor.

This passage is simply poetic and should win some sort of award.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Buckeyejason's picture

Penn State students are about as an intelligent as a Jim Bollman game plan..enough said.

BUCKEYES BABY!

BucksfanXC's picture

The idea that people only watch Buckeye basketball when they are playing someone decent or there is nothing better to do is angering to me. I don't think you can be a Buckeye fan and just be a Buckeye football fan. But that's maybe the wrong mentality, I don't know.

If I had the chance I'd go watch OSU hockey, OSU baseball, OSU swimming and diving, anything where the Buckeyes were playing, I'd be there if I had the oppurtunity. I drive down from Michigan to a few football games a year and try to make one basketball game. I watch MSU play OSU cuz I live near campus still anytime the Buckeyes are in town. 

To openly admit you only watch if you think they are going to win or when they are good, it's just selfish. They aren't there for you entertainment, but you are supposed to be there to support them.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Buckeyejason's picture

I think you're absolutely wrong on this. You can choose to watch and root for whatever you heart desires. If I want to root for Stanford as well as Ohio state to win...I can. I don't have to be delagated to rooting for Ohio State only..or should feel obligated to watch all OSU sports instead of the sport to my liking.

How can you blame someone for not wanting to watch an uninspired, low intensity game between Wright State and Ohio State in basketball?

BUCKEYES BABY!

DJ Byrnes's picture

What do you mean if you "had the chance" to go to OSU hockey, baseball or swimming and diving? I've never looked, but are tickets to such events that hard to come by?

Here are the only teams I will watch regardless of W/L: Los Angeles Lakers, Cleveland Browns, Ohio State football and Aston Villa FC. I treat OSU bball like the Los Angeles Dodgers: I'm only watching if they're good. (I didn't watch a single half-inning of Dodgers baseball this year and I'm rather proud of that fact because Frank McCourt is a disgusting human being.)

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BucksfanXC's picture

I don't have the chance very often because I live 250 miles away.

Professional sports are played solely for the entertainment of the fans. I have no problem with ppl only watching those teams when they are good. I don't particularly care for pro sports myself, but will occasionally watch, if for no other reason that I know I'll be entertained and I'll be able to talk to everyone else who does care or is watching.

I guess I don't think college sports are solely or primarily for entertainment. But I understand that they will only make money and get lots of ppl to watch if they are entertaining. But to me, college sports are to showcase and better the student athletes involved. Or they are supposed to anyway.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

DJ Byrnes's picture

ah, okay. i see what you're saying here. to me, sports iz sports. nothing more, nothing less. cheerz tho, bruv.

 

btw: college ball needs more of this: http://twitpic.com/7e7yzy

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

Teabaggin'? Nut grabbin'? What does it need??

DJ Byrnes's picture

PWNAGE. It needs more PWNAGE.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Denny's picture

Frederic Weis thinks that's nothing.

Taquitos.

tampa buckeye's picture

The lakers suck. Kobe will never be jordan.

NC_Buckeye's picture

If I had the chance I'd go watch OSU hockey, OSU baseball, OSU swimming and diving, anything where the Buckeyes were playing, I'd be there if I had the oppurtunity.

XC - I can't wait until 2013 when I get to watch Buckeye Hockey every weekend on BTN. Thank you PSU for making this possible.

Also looks like I'll be making the trip up to C'bus for Friday night 1/13 game then Cleveland for the Frozen Diamond Faceoff at Progressive Field on Sunday 1/15.

F*** Michigan

O-H

Scott's picture

This is a bit harsh. Most Buckeye fans probably don't know that the men's volleyball team won the national championship last year, that synchronized swimming won 6 national titles in the 2000s, and that the 2002 National Championship was only one of 16 Buckeye national championships in the in the last decade. Most probably didn't watch men's soccer play in the national championship game in 2007 and most didn't fill out tournament brackets when the women's basketball team scored a 1 Seed in 2006.

My point is, not only do a ton of Buckeye fans not watch all Buckeye sports all the time, most don't even know when most of our sports are doing well or winning championships. This isn't about being selfish our someone being more supportive than someone else. This is about sports preferences and no one should be judged for the ones they hold.

Class of 2008

BucksfanXC's picture

I just said it upsets me. I understand it, I know it exists, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. But it is very selfish. "I only watch sports that entertain me." That is selfish. I'm not saying that's wrong, because, that's your choice. Sometimes selfishness is a good thing. I just know that the basketball team still plays even when no one is watching, so does the men's soccer team and the pistol shooters, etc. etc. But it would sure mean a lot to them to have fans cheer them on, blog posts commented on endlessly, etc.

And why do they still play if no one watches? I think that's a fair question.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Riggins's picture

Sports are entertainment for fans.  Sports are sports for participants.

A fan who is not getting entertainment from the sport they are watching should absolutely stop watching.  I think soccer as a sport is a big, hot, heap of ass; therefore I do not watch it.  Any of it.  If I liked soccer, I'm sure I would follow Ohio State's teams.  Sorry, but Bobby and Jane at Ohio State will not be seeing me at any of their soccer games, but I wish them well.

"And why do they still play if no one watches? I think that's a fair question."  They should be playing the sport because they love it. Not because of the love/attention they would get from would-be fans.

BucksfanXC's picture

I agree with that answer. And I also understand that the reason they get to play with little to no fan support is because football has such a great support it makes enough money to fund all the other sports.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

Scott's picture

My point is that there are people who think OSU volleyball and pistol are more important than OSU football and basketball. That doesn't make them selfish for not sharing your views and that doesn't make you selfish for sharing their views. We shouldn't judge the quality of the Buckeye by their personal sports and entertainment preferences.

Class of 2008

btalbert25's picture

College basketball to me is a great way to kill time between the bowl game and openning day of my beloved Reds.  Much like the NBA though, the only time it's really worth watching is the final month.  You can probably sit down right now and project about 58 teams in the field, and probaly hit over 40 of them with the seed they'll get within in a seed or 2.  The last 10 games and conference tournaments are the only part of the regular season that matter much and the selection committee basically says so much with how they seed their teams.  So, pretty much the regular season is mostly an exhibition, with some really good non conference matchups.  But if Ohio State beats Duke by 20 or loses by 20 to Duke, their still going to end up being a 1 seed at best and at absolute worse a 3 seed.  One and dones have created a situation where college basketball isn't that great really.  It's made for nice viewing in the tournament when teams like George Mason, Davidson, Butler, and Northern Iowa have been able to make nice runs and beat big named teams, but I don't think the college game is better because of it.

That being said, this year should be very entertaining with a lot of elite players staying put because of the lockout.  There should be a handful of really good teams this year.  Much like the NBA is only really exciting in May/June, the NCAA is only truly exciting in late February/March.

This is obviously just my opinion, and I don't care all that much for basketball.  Seems like the older I get the less I like the game, but for a casual fan, with no real emotional tie to the game, I only care to watch each leage for about a one month stretch, and even that isn't a neccessity anymore. 

OSUNeedles's picture

I feel like the really good, close, college bball games just wind up causing me to bcome infuriated with officiating. I don't know if it is that I don't know the rules as well as I do for football, but it seems like the refs have way too much of an effect on the game compared to the talent of the players.
With that said, I still watch about every OSU bball game it just fills me with anxiety & rage if it is a good game, or replaces my evening scotch as a sleep aid if it is a blowout.

BTwrestle04's picture

How is it that LSU is always contending for a National Championship every year that the National Championship game is in New Orleans? Their last two Championships were when they played in New Orleans and this year it looks as if it will be the same. 

Buckeyejason's picture

Yeah seriously? What a stupid and annoying coincedence.

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Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I used to love the NBA when people like Kemp were busy fathering half a million children across the US and Rodman was rockin lacy garments. AI was too good to practice and traveling wasn't called a crab dribble. I like the NBA, but only watch select games throughout the season. Prolly a lot like DJ watches the Buckeye BBall team. I enjoy college ball more, but the talent in the NBA is insane.

We have the only 2 time winner of that award that everyone is calling dumb. If TP was still playing he'd probably be the front runner. Maybe Brax will be in the race next season? I sure as helll don't think it's dumb when a Buckeye wins it.

onetwentyeight's picture

It's dumb to me b/c out of all the players who see the field on Saturday only 2 are eligible for it potentially (the QB and RB). Even when a D-lineman like Suh comes along who is once in a generation and absolutely won many games for them, he still gets shafted in voting. 

It places a premium on scoring lots of TDs on a high profile team. Which is surely important but not the only thing that exists. Hell, even woodson had to moonlight scoring TDs the year he won. Being a flat-out dominant defensive player will never be enough by itself. 

 

Buckeye in Illini country's picture

Generally, the QB is the most important player on the field (i.e. have you seen the Colts this year without Peyton Manning?).  The RB can also be up there in the likes of Lamichael James this year or Eddie George/ Barry Sanders back in the day; therefore the QB/RB should win the majority of Heisman trophies.

O-line shouldn't get it because its the whole unit that works together.  If one player on the line sucks, the whole unit can crumble as this past week without Shugarts, despite still having Brewster and Adams there.

Defensive players are harder to project as being the best player in the country due to a lack of stats, or unless you watch every single game the team plays.

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Buckeyejason's picture

TP couldn't even earn all Big Ten let alone be considered in the Heisman race. How would he even have a chance missing the 1st 5 games of the season?

As for Braxton..I don't see monumental leaps of progress from him in one season to be a heisman canidate. Especially with all the uncertainty surrounding the program: coaches, probabtion, etc.

2013 and 2014? Maybe.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

In my lil' Mulligan fantasy, he wouldn't be suspended those 5, but he was getting Heisman talk prior to his Sophomore year.

BTwrestle04's picture

So was Denard Robinson. "Heisman talk" means nothing. Heisman performances mean everything.

Riggins's picture

If you're 28 and older than most NFL players (like Brandon Weeden), then you should not be eligible for the Heisman.  Just my own, unjustifiable opinion.

Riggins's picture

And yes, the NBA regular season sucks.  Sorry that you can't see it, but I've seen more effort at Harlem Globetrotter games.  I'll watch the playoffs though.  Those are entertaining with everyone trying.

Transylvaniabuck's picture

You had to expect some backlash when you knocked college b-ball. This site is obviously football first but it also does a great job covering buckeye basketball. When you come out and say you don't even like a sport you are going to hit some nerves.

chitown buckeye's picture

Did everyone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!? I know it is Monday but it seems as if everyone is on edge!?

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Buckeyejason's picture

Probably the fact that our beloved football teams sucks balls this year.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Transylvaniabuck's picture

Maybe it is the boilermaker hangover?