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Joe Paterno Out Effective Immediately

College football's all-time winningest head coach's half decade plus in the sport has come to an abrupt end. Following one of the most harrowing weeks in collegiate sports history, the icon and legend of the game was removed by the Penn State Board of Trustees Wednesday evening along with President Graham Spanier.

The scene in Happy Valley was one of madness as local cameramen struggled to objectively cover the event and loud shouting ruled the air immediately following the announcement that Paterno would not finish the 2010 campaign.

The last time Penn State found themselves naming a new head coach, Lyndon Baines Johnson was situated in the White House. Penn State's transition will begin immediately as this weekend against Nebraska the team will be led by long time defensive coordinator and now interim head coach Tom Bradley. While his ties to the previous administration may keep him from consideration for the long term gig, Bradley had long been thought the favorite to replace Paterno these last ten or so years.

Nearer and dearer to the Eleven Warriors and Ohio State audiences at-large, the Buckeyes' 38-14 victory over the Nittany Lions will mark the last time Ohio State fans saw Paterno in action. With serious Big Ten Leaders divisions implications still in-play for both teams, next Saturday's Senior Day contest suddenly looks all the more nebulous though obtainable for the Bucks.

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poguemahone on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:26pm #

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Jason Staff on 10 Nov 2011 - 3:17am #

Nicely executed meme. This is one of my favorites, too.

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JakeBuckeye on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:28pm #

I know Penn States fans have been incredibly shitty toward us throughout our ordeal, but I really can't revel in this. This truly makes me sad.

October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day

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TLB on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:41pm #

Something we finally agree on, Jake.

It's an unfortunate end to what was a great career, he had to go and should have done it himself earlier today. 

Still, it is not the time for any of us to revel in their loss.

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Bucksfan on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:18am #

Just wait until the YouTube videos of them being complete jackasses hit the news feeds tomorrow.

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AcrossTheField11 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:33am #

I can't understand why everyone takes so much pleasure / rejoices in the failures of good men (Tim Tebow, Jim Tressel, Joe Paterno). It doesn't say good things about our society.

Can't say I didn't see this coming but its sad nonetheless.

 

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

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Bucksfan on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:56am #

People like to watch a train wreck.  But, I don't think people are generally happy with this situation.  It is very sad.  It had to be done, though.

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Jim on 10 Nov 2011 - 10:31pm #

Why would you put Tebow's name with the other two.  Tressel lied and is taking the legs out of a program; Paterno's acts, or lack thereof, are sickening.  What has Tebow done wrong exactlY? 

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TatumRuled on 11 Nov 2011 - 4:43pm #

A co-worker who went to Penn State said, "Now I know how you Ohio State fans felt." And I went off on him: "Tressel covered up a handful of players getting free tattoos. Do not compare him to what Paterno did (or did not do)."

But I agree with you. Though I'm satisfied that Penn St did the right thing, I - as a college football fan - find no joy in this at all.

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

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osukdawg76 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:29pm #

State College, Pennsylvania, may very well burn to the ground tonight.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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Riggins on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:31pm #

I don't see how Penn State could let Joe go out there on Saturday and have 110,000 people chant his name amidst these allegations.  Talk about setting fuel to this PR nightmare.

JoePa will not get his Swan Song.  It's sad after the career he has had, but out of respect for these victims, I think that is the right call.

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Hoody Wayes on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:31pm #

Penn State's football future, is the least of its concerns. I wouldn't be surprised if the university suspends the program - indefinitely:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/09/penn.state.edu...

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osukdawg76 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:39pm #

I was talking about that with a friend of mine earlier....it may very well happen.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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Conroy on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:33pm #

Wow.  I can't believe this is how Paterno is leaving football.

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741 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:39pm #

Mike McQueary ought to be gone as well. Anyone hear if that is the case yet?

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osukdawg76 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:39pm #

Still employed....and apparently Curley is as well.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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poop on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:41pm #

Penn State students are gathering. They're bigger douchebags than I thought.

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TLB on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:46pm #

Yeah, this is no time to burn up the campus, but I guess thats what students do these days when they disagree with faculty decisions.  Would be nice if they thought about why the coach was let go.

And the Board.....this has been going on for a week, or 3 years, and they decide at 10PM?  Hope they let campus security know.

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osukdawg76 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:51pm #

I don't think it would matter what time they held the press conference, to be honest.  Joe Paterno is a god at that campus.  Students are going to react this way no matter the time of day.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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WMBuckeye on 10 Nov 2011 - 7:43am #

On my morning drive to work, NPR had sound clips from students from Penn State during their coverage.."it's just wrong, he didn't commit the crime, he shouldn't be fired!" that's the basic stance of what the students are saying. So, yes it would be nice if they actually understood the why. The fact he had knowledge of incidents and did not report is just as incriminating as the actual crime. Just ugly all around. IMHO

 

Unrelated but needs to be said, Happy 236th Birthday to fellow Marines! Semper Fi!

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 10 Nov 2011 - 11:21am #

My birthday too...I always tell people I have the same bday as the Marines (but for the year of course-I do look good for my age, but not that good).

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

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WMBuckeye on 11 Nov 2011 - 7:56am #

Everyone with the Corps Birthday brings sexy back ;)

Proud to be a Buckeye in SEC territory...Long Live the Vest!!
Class of 2003 OSU/ATI "Where the men are men, women are few and the sheep are scared.."

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William on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:46pm #

I think GQ ranked them as the second douchiest university in America. Of course we're the most obnoxious university in America.

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ShowThemOhiosHere on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:54pm #

They're delusional!  Supporting their coach despite everything!  Blind homerism!

That's what they said about Tressel supporters earlier this year, right?  Idiots.

Class of 2010.

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William on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:41pm #

Have a big time PSU friend who just told me that the media is trashing Paterno and slandering him, of course he thought the media went easy on Tressel. The ignorance and bias of some people is unbelievable....

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poop on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:43pm #

7 Nation Army should never be played in our stadium again.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:49pm #

Agreed; it's played out anyway.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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Riggins on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:52pm #

Good. I hate it anyway.

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awwwwwwop on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:14am #

I was always under the impression that PSU played Zombie Nation  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6hIQiDkz6s

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

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ShowThemOhiosHere on 10 Nov 2011 - 3:07pm #

Their band plays the song on good offensive plays.  Some fans might chant along with it, but it's nothing like how we do the chant.  Why they chose to do it on that night at JoePa's is beyond me, but that doesn't mean that the chant is taboo just because PSU students used it in an irrational context.  The song itself is becoming overplayed throughout college football. 

We have our own version of it - fuck Penn State, we shouldn't stop it just because of those douchebags.

Class of 2010.

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P-Rickles on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:52pm #

Jonathan, at OTE, probably did the best job I've seen so far of describing how we should feel about PSU right now. Pretty poignant stuff. A lot of commenters have been surprised that a Buckeye takes the high road, but we are greater than the sum of our parts. O-H.

http://www.offtackleempire.com/2011/11/8/2547485/an-open-letter-from-a-b...

Brandt can't watch, though, or he has to pay $100.

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22buckeyebrown on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:23am #

good article, thx for sharing

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Nappy Mod on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:52pm #

Although I think this was the only outcome that made sense, it still sucks.  This is just a horrible situation for all involved.  

Fan of bacon since 1981

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omahabeef1337 on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:55pm #

Anyone hear the douchey/conspiracy theory questions from people at the press conference who seemed to be PSU students? Those students (and those who are protesting this firing) are making their university look even worse.

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poguemahone on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:57pm #

Well, we've known for years that they're one of the top 5 worst college football fanbases; tonight, they're showing it 

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William on 9 Nov 2011 - 11:59pm #

I was watching that, and I wanted the trustee who was answering questions to go Adam Sandberg "Like a Boss" on those pricks. They were a whiny bunch of deuches when it came to asking questions.

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onetwentyeight on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:41am #

Speaking of conspiracies, ... anyone following the (VERY) sketchy dissapearence of the DA who didn't go after Sandusky in 1998? 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandu...

 

If i didn't know any better, it seems to me like this thorough, independent law enforcement official, who couldn't be swayed by the PSU institution ...  found out about Sandusky and how PSU was covering up for the man ...  and so he became too much of a "problem" ... and someone .. in charge (ahem JoePa...) decided that letting him stick around with this knowledge ... was too "dangerous" .. and therefore "this situation" had to be "dealt with" ... 

 

JoePa : Potential Mob boss. I feel silly even typing this. 

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Scott on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:08am #

For a person that did his best to be seen as a normal, humble man, the hubris shown in his final press conference made this unreal exit even worse. College Football lost a legend, but Penn State did the right thing.

Class of 2008

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onetwentyeight on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:11am #

No one who achieves such heights in that profession (CFB coaching) and manages to stay there for nearly 50 years got to that point without a healthy dose of hubris. 

JoePa just hid it much better than the others. 

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Buckeye Chuck on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:20am #

Can we go back in time and prevent these yokels from ever sullying the good name of the Big Ten? I mean, I know I'd go crazy if I had to spend 9 months of the year in State College, but these students are utterly ridiculous.

I still don't think Paterno really gets it. I'd like to see an indication he's mourning for something other than his lost career and reputation.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:23am #

This press conference is ridiculous.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:25am #

I feel sorry for the trustees, they did the right thing and are getting bitched at by a bunch of whiny ass reporters.

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poguemahone on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:26am #

A lot of the worst questions (like the one about Paterno getting fired for not winning enough) came from students. Morons.

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22buckeyebrown on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:29am #

lol, not winning enough? he has 409 wins... more than any other coach in the history of college football... ignorant people make me angry

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:29am #

So Jim Tressel gets fired and OSU students sing Carmen Ohio at his house, Joe Paterno gets fired and Penn State students riot. Stay classy State College.

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22buckeyebrown on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:30am #

good point

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741 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:42am #

Somebody define "riot" please. I keep seeing that word getting thrown around today yet I see nothing but some kids standing around on my TV.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:45am #

They aren't showing it now, about 20 minutes ago there was screaming, chanting etc, until the riot squad came out...

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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741 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:53am #

I feel like the word "riot" connotates violence and lawlessness. Chanting and even screaming in the absence of cars (or couches) burning, or things being thrown at the police, doesn't really seem like a riot to me. We Ohio State folks might consider dialing back the use of the word "riot" for now. I'm just saying...

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osukdawg76 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:55am #

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/11/9/2551117/a-transcript-o...

 

EDSBS' transcript of the press conference.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:56am #

We at OSU know how to riot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcZv_j23V0Y

 

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:01am #

Sorry, I wasn't saying the where rioting...just responding to you saying they were standing around. I switched to the CMA's for something else to watch.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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741 on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:04am #

No worries - I was just answering my own question chief!

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:06am #

NP.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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Keith on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:22am #

It's unbelievable the Big Ten Network is running regularly scheduled programming right now.  For all the excellent reporting today, they've dropped the ball big time in the last hour.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:28am #

They addressed this in USA Today this morning; chossing not to cover it all somewhat due to resources.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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Keith on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:30am #

An incredible mistake in judgement.  Revsine should be on the anchor desk reporting live, even if it's just himself with call ins from other staff members.

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Hoody Wayes on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:59am #

Big Ten Network addresses charges of soft-pedaling Penn State scandal

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/richard_deitsch/11/09/bigt...

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madhatterhater on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:17am #

Doing the samething that ESPN would do if it was a SEC team.

go bucks

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:30am #

What is lost on these students is perspective.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:03am #

Why weren't there riots or protests when students found out about Sandusky? 

We should petition our city of Sandusky to change its name. No Sandusky in Ohio, maybe re-name the town cedar point. Any takers?

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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M tots on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:06am #

Good call.  Yesterday on the Fan they mentioned that the Baltimore Ravens radio announcer is also named Jerry Sandusky... He may want to find a new name too

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Denny on 10 Nov 2011 - 8:32am #

He's Gerry with a G.

Taquitos.

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Brutus on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:45am #

Very sad. I'm disappointed that things ended this way for him. This is bigger than football. JoePa is more than a coach. He's an American icon. He may have coached the other team, but I always respected and admired him. It's disappointing whenever a good man falls. However, there's no denying that JoePa and McQueary and the other two knuckleheads were in a position to prevent other children from being victimized, if not in 2002 then 2003 or 2004 or any year thereafter as they continued to watch Sandusky walk around as a free man. This is a sad ending, but it had to end now.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:11am #

That's about as well as it can be put. Tragic.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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Dethsyth47 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:45am #

I'm not taking pleasure in this, but I feel no pity either. During Tatgate this summer the worst things were said to me by self righteous, holier than thou Penn State fans. They were far and away the worst. Even still today everyone I know that is a Penn State fans are making excuses, and saying this is a smear job, that these kids are lying to get money from the university, blah blah blah. No pity from me.

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osukdawg76 on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:57am #

Grand Jury Testimony >>>>>>>> NCAA Investigation

It isn't even on the same planet.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.

 

 

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faux_maestro on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:47am #

^^^THIS

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jenks on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:00am #

I wish people cared this about professors leaving schools

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:07am #

I agree with this. Several of my professors at OSU are incredible at what they do, I wish people cared as much about what they do, as they do coaches of their favorite teams.

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jenks on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:10am #

this much*

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Buckeyejason on 10 Nov 2011 - 10:33am #

+ 1,000000000000

This world is ass backwards

Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:07am #

So is this without question the biggest scandal in the history of CFB? I want to say yes, but I may be wrong.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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faux_maestro on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:50am #

IF this is a cover-up like it appears to be, this goes beyond college football into the relm biggest scandals period.

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BuckJI on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:08am #

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

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Dethsyth47 on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:11am #

It is getting real ugly in State College now. Trying to tip over a media van.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:18am #

was turned over; light poles now...

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:21am #

This is ascending all levels of stupidity.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:23am #

Agreed. No perspective.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:25am #

flares now?

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:27am #

New PSU Slogan: We Are....... Ignorant

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:15am #

wow, they could've at least fired him like a man...that was pretty f*cked up...

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:18am #

Yeah that was really lousy. At least have the balls to fire the man face to face.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:20am #

flipped through channels; saw Tony DiNozzo rocking Buckeye gear then went back to coverage.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:34am #

rocks and bottles now...

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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BrewstersMillions on 10 Nov 2011 - 3:10pm #

False. There is no reason to pity how Joe Pa got axed. You know what else was lousy? Turning a blind eye to child rape. I would have been fine if they simply changed the locks or pulled a Milton from Office Space and 'fixed the glitch'. Joe Pa gets no sympathy from me.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

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pldconsulting on 10 Nov 2011 - 10:42pm #

Why, do you think he would have the balls to face the kids and the parents of the kids that were raped and tell them it wasn't his responsibilty to stop it?

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:15am #

Speechless...

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

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Bucksfan on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:16am #

That was wierd.  Anyone see Paterno come out and say...whatever he said?

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:18am #

Thought he had a stroke...

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SensibleBuckeye on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:20am #

ESPN once again showed the world just how far they are from a being a true journalistic entity as the Wednesday night SportsCenter crew didn't even know the first name of coach Paterno's wife.  Her name is Sue and anyone following the story this week (like you’d think ESPN might be doing) should know that.  Besides, how difficult could that to be to for a journalistic enterprise to research...in fact shouldn't they just know that given all the years this man has coached the game? 

Funny how when given the chance to show their journalistic “chops” ESPN looks more like the Keystone Cops than a serious sports news enterprise.

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TLB on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:26am #

They are more used to making the news than reporting it.

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spqr2008 on 10 Nov 2011 - 8:53am #

Does ESPiN remind anyone else of "Tommorrow Never Dies"?  I know it's not the greatest Bond movie ever, but the whole "manufacturing a war" thing the media mogul does in it is the best movie reference comparison I can come up with to the way ESPiN is playing the puppetmaster with conference re-alignments.

I bumped this comment from myself (so humble, I know), from the article Ramzy wrote, The Smartest Guys in the Room.  And although I realize TLB might be trying to be sarcastic, the sad fact is that they do make the news, and frankly, from a business standpoint, for them it makes sense to ignore the SEC's scandals until they have a deal signed with them, and attack the Big Ten as much as possible to weaken competition. (Obviously they have every reason to investigate this story, I'm talking about generalities here)

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biggy84 on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:29am #

He won't be making doodie in his pants at the Shoe again

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Bucks43201 on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:03am #

I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that JoePa and Sanrapesky went halvsies on an '88 Ford EconoStar Van, with a painted ski/mountain mural on the back windows. Joe drives, Sanrapesky rides shotgun, and McQueerbag is riding b*tch in this creepmobile.
They will be cruising in a neighborhood near you. Lock yo doorz!

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sharkvsghost on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:42am #

i feel like i've used the word bizarre more this week than ever before, but i don't know how else to describe this situation. 

swing hard in case you hit it.

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BTwrestle04 on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:48am #

This whole football season has felt like a really bad dream. Can I wake up now?

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faux_maestro on 10 Nov 2011 - 1:52am #

This pretty much sums it up.

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BuckeyeFanInBoulder on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:11am #

I feel really bad for everyone involved with Penn State right now but this was definitely the right thing to do, regardless of whether the trustees know more than they are letting on or not.  Not to derail from this thread's topic, but yeah, can we just get the judgment from the NCAA and move on, at least at OSU?  I thought we were supposed to have something before the Nebraska game.  With the reports from Miami, Oregon, and now this, my initial reaction is I would like to just get our verdict and move on.  I'm not sure what the NCAA will do to the Hurricanes, Nittany Lions, etc. but it would be nice to disassociate with this season's bad news in some way... Hopefully we can win the Big Ten, beat Oregon (?) in the Rose Bowl, and become one of this year's positive stories.  Spurrier suggesting the players get paid seems like forever ago.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:04am #

Just saw 3 or 4 PSU students take some mace to the face. Shit is getting way out of control. What idiots.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:14am #

And they don't understand why. Why? Maybe because they where trying to rip shit off that van.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:19am #

Some dumbass was crawling through the broken windshield. The stupidity of some people is just astounding. When the cops busted out the mace my suitemate and I literally jumped up and yelled out "In the face!"

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:21am #

Are you there or on tv?

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:23am #

Oh no, I go to OSU, my roommates and I were just watching several feeds online and on the tv.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:24am #

Oh, I thought you where our "man on the scene".

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:26am #

Haha no. OSU student. Even if there was a riot on OSU's campus, I'd be as far away from it as possible. 

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:28am #

I hope you are never faced with that choice.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:08am #

Well, as for my earlier comments about the students needing perspective, reading some un-named blogs, a huge majority of their fanbase needs perspective. There are victims here; this goes beyond a coach losing his job. I'm pretty disgusted.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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sharkvsghost on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:17am #

the comments over at BSD make it impossible to for me to feel any sympathy for these people.  the lack of perspective is shocking. 

swing hard in case you hit it.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:18am #

Well, that was my un-named blog!

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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Bucksfan on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:20am #

How do they have that much comment traffic over there?  That's ridiculous.

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William on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:24am #

Yeah I checked BSD, its insane, and what's even worse is the viewpoints of many of the commenters.

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BuckeyeChief Mod on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:17am #

OT but flipping through channels again...

"Is poisoning trees illegal?"

"I don't care; Roll Damn Tide!"

And then he lies about not doing it.

"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"

No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.

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NW Buckeye on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:36am #

JoPa was coaching when I was in school in the early 70's.  Woody had a lot of respect for him, and vica versa.  Brian Baschnagel was a kid who was advised by JoPa to take a look at Ohio State - JoPa called Woody about him.  Turned out to be a pretty good recruit.  Woody also referred kids to PSU. 

Over the years I had a lot of respect for JoPa until he started getting too old to coach.  There is a time in all of our lives that it is necessary to hang it up and let the young ones take over.  JoPa passed that mark about 10 years ago.  However, I still had some respect for what he had accomplished and the moxie he still displayed. 

Today's events have really altered my opinion of him, and I lost a lot of respect.  The move to pre-empt the Board by announcing his retirement effective at the end of the season showed me just how out of touch he is.  The only solution to this was to sever ties immediately.  It would have been really classy to just announce that he had decided to step down immediately, or just wait for the Board to make a decision.  His announcement seemed like an attempt to let everyone know that he was still running the show.  And, it made the final decision on his tenure (one that had to be made) even more difficult for the JoPa faithful at PSU.  A very sad, mishandled situation that could have been made much easier if Joe had really thought it through. 

Brings to mind the firing of Woody.  Hugh Hineman (AD at the time) went to Woody and suggested Woody retire/resign to save face.  Woody looked him straight in the eyes and said: "No, I deserve to be fired."  Many people remember Woody as an all-in football coach, but he was an academic first (professor in history), and I believe his instance on being fired was his way of showing that no coach was more important than the University.  I know that there are many who will look at this action in another way, but having known the man and having the pleasure of speaking with him less than a month after he was fired, I know where he was coming from.  It was not a good time for OSU, but Woody made his point.  JoPa could have done this much more graceful than what he did.  And, just like Woody's exit, we all know it had to be done. 

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holystiffarm on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:53am #

^ +1

 

This whole this is just sad.  JoePa should've known better than to try to hang on, since he loves the university so much, he just let his judgement get clouded.  He would have realized what he needed to do with more time, I'd like to think.  Too classy/ic a coach not to have figured that out.

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painterlad on 10 Nov 2011 - 6:25am #

The things that we value, and the truths that we cling to, do not go gentle into that good night.

To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.

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bucki5 on 10 Nov 2011 - 7:51am #

Can't wait for the Tats vs Tots bowl.  Go Bucks!  Pretty amazing we've played Miami and Penn State in a year full of turmoil.

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ArTbkward on 10 Nov 2011 - 11:14am #

Kinda funny but I hope beyond hope no one in the media is stupid enough to create slogans for the OSU/PSU game as they did for the Ineligibowl.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

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Kennywayne34 on 10 Nov 2011 - 8:18am #

^ lololololol TNT BOWL.  Can they STOP using the moniker "linebacker U" 

                                         Bitch Please!!!

 

 

 

 

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lhardeman on 10 Nov 2011 - 9:10am #

I tried to read the grand jury results from the case and I couldn't read the details about the sexual abuse, but I read closely the details about how McQuery found the victim and abuser and the meetings afterward.  My first thoughts is that McQuery is one of the biggest cowards I've heard of.  How on God's green earth does a grown man allow a 10 year old boy to fend for himself against a molester.  How does that happen?  Secondly, there isn't a bone in my body that believes for one second that all parties involved didn't know the horrific details of the encounter. There is no way that a private conference would take place and all the details not be known.  Think for a second.  If someone accuses your friend of commiting a serious felony, would you not want to know all the details of what was seen?  Even if he only said there was some "touching" or "inappropriate" activity in the shower between a grown man and a child, common sense would tell you that there was abuse.  This whole situation turns my stomach.  And personally I don't see how any caring and logical human being could believe that they are all guilty of not doing their best to make sure that this child was protected.  I know Joe Paterno has done some great things in his life and I don't want to diminish those things, but I find it hard to believe that he didn't know his friend was abusing kids and then still allowed him to use their facilities.  I know Joe doesn't make policy, but I'm sure one word from him that his ex-defensive coordinator was now persona non-grata he could've made it happen.  They are all disgusting and I hope they are all held accountable for their actions or lack thereof.

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ArTbkward on 10 Nov 2011 - 11:23am #

I read the Grand Jury report too, which is borderline unreadable.  Keep in mind these findings were reported in 2002, FOUR YEARS after Sandusky had already been investigated in 1998.  Nothing came of the '98 report but he admitted showering with kids to the mother of the victim at that time.  She tried to make him promise to never do it again and he wouldn't.

So these people didn't report the eyewitness account despite knowing that Sandusky had previously been investigated for child abuse.

 

See Plain Dealer timeline:

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_university_football.html

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

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Breakawayspeed on 10 Nov 2011 - 12:18pm #

Many years ago, I witnessed a janitor where I worked, molesting a women who had developmental disabilities.  She was non- verbal and confined to a wheelchair.  I promptly grabbed him by the collar of his shirt and marched him into the companies Director's office and explained what happened.

The Director, a very fine man, fired him on the spot but did not call the police.  In those days, there was no formal "duty to call the police" in expliotation cases but I was surprised that he chose to handle it the way he did.  I thought the police should have been notified and charges filed in order to keep this creep out of the system. 

I understand there are some large differences in comparing my experience with what has transpired at PSU.  The transgressions and the times are vastly different.  However, I am inclined to think Joe Pa was done in by bad circumstances and bad decisions as opposed to any "moral" failings.  He tried to do the right thing.  He is a good and decent, man.

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ArTbkward on 10 Nov 2011 - 2:39pm #

Written April 2011:

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)

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btalbert25 on 10 Nov 2011 - 4:02pm #

Amazing how people at some of their blogs still talk about how stuff he writes is BS.  Maybe the don't like other articles this guy has come up with, but he was pretty right on the money back in April.

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TallTom on 10 Nov 2011 - 4:04pm #

Ironic considering the legends verses liars shirt, but this is a classy letter:

http://theschoolphilly.com/2011/11/09/letter-from-an-osu-fan-to-penn-state-fans/

 

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BigBuck623 on 10 Nov 2011 - 5:49pm #

Here's the larger ramification of all this, which the PSU students haven't woken up to yet: If Madden's allegations are proven true, those Penn State degrees are literally worthless in the job market - unless the CEO and BoD of the company are also from Penn State.

Think about that for a second: If your university (and the non-dischargeable debt which you've assumed to acquire that piece of parchment) loses its accreditation OR respect within the broader business community, you have literally zero "professional" job prospects.

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WMBuckeye on 11 Nov 2011 - 8:08am #

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/10/justice/pennsylvania-coach-abuse/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Chicken!!

Proud to be a Buckeye in SEC territory...Long Live the Vest!!
Class of 2003 OSU/ATI "Where the men are men, women are few and the sheep are scared.."

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Hoody Wayes on 11 Nov 2011 - 4:54pm #

"We still haven't heard the full story, and it's not going to go away for quite a while," sports marketing expert Bob Dorfman told Advertising Age. "New allegations may emerge, new victims may come forward. Expect more sponsors to cut the cord.
"They're morally obligated to separate themselves from the program.'

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sponsors_cut_ties_with_penn_state_...

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WMBuckeye on 11 Nov 2011 - 6:40pm #

FINALLLYYY!!!! McQuery is headed out!!

 

 

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/11/penn-state-trustees-consider-panel-to-investigate-sex-abuse-allegations/?hpt=hp_t1

 

Proud to be a Buckeye in SEC territory...Long Live the Vest!!
Class of 2003 OSU/ATI "Where the men are men, women are few and the sheep are scared.."

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