Monday Skull Session

By Elika on October 24, 2011 at 3:08a
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Good mornin', Sunshine... and Happy Monday!

Your eyes, and your calendar, are not failing you. I have, in fact, swapped spots with DJ this week. I thought I'd give my best effort to relieve any of you of your case of the Mondays, and I'm sure this allowed DJ to get into some shenanigans with Warren G. Harding as well. Maybe he'll tell you all about it on Friday morning... if you ask nicely, of course.

HOLY MOLY! For those of you that weren't able to watch the Wisconsin vs Michigan State game Saturday night, all I can say is... you missed out. Those of you who did watch, until the very end, were simply reminded as to why college football is, without a doubt, the greatest thing on earth.

Once MSU woke up in the 2nd quarter, the game was an amazing rollercoaster right on the gridiron. I'm convinced any frathouses partaking in any one of a variety of Brent Musberger drinking games are still recovering.

Wisconsin's loss puts the Buckeyes back in control of their own destiny for the B1G Leaders Division. The Ohio State players, of course, seemed glued to their TVs and some took to Twitter to express their thoughts following the game:

Jake Stoneburner: "Dear world. We are back."

Michael Brewster: "New life... #resurrection" and "All in"

Nate Oliver: "Kirk Cousins is now the new Doug Flutie!!"

Etienne Sabino: "Wow" and "#gobucks!!"

Reid Fragel: "Well, our season is back. Let's go."

Personally, I find a pissed off Bucky to be quite intimidating, as he already looks like he has rabies. However, it's nice that the loss gives the team a bit more incentive for Saturday's game, and finally some film on something that worked against the Badgers.

OH NO, OU! As if to tell college football fans everywhere that the fun wasn't over just yet, Texas Tech pulled a big upset in Norman over the 3rd ranked Oklahoma Sooners, snapping OU's 39-game home winning streak. By early third quarter, the Red Raiders had a 31-7 lead over the Sooners, who began to fight their way back to a 31-24 score by the beginning of the fourth quarter. Oklahoma kept fighting throughout the final quarter of the game, but a critical missed FG by Michael Hunnicutt proved too difficult to overcome. They had a final shot, down 41-38 with 1:10 left, after a TD grab by Jaz Reynolds, but couldn't recover the onside kick. Within a couple hours, the college football world witnessed the deaths of Russell Wilson's Heisman hopes and Oklahoma's run for the national championship.

Speaking of national championships... is anyone picking a team other than the winner of the LSU Bama game to win it all? I've said it for a couple years now, and will continue to do so until anyone proves otherwise, I am never picking anyone BUT an SEC team to win the national championship. I simply can not believe that it can be done, until I see it. As much as I wish we (the field) were, we are not worthy.

One for the ages.MSU reminds us, in case we forgot, why we love the game.

MOVING ON TO PLAYERS WHO ARE ALLOWED TO GET PAID... Sunday's NFL games provided some great story lines as well. So what did you miss if you spent the whole day working on that honey-do list? Well, honey... here are just a few bullet points for you:

  • The Raiders apparently traded in two first round picks for three second half picks. As if to commemorate Al Davis, the Raiders tried really hard to prove that, at least for now, the trade of two first round draft picks for Carson Palmer probably wasn't the brightest move. After Boller threw three picks in the first half, Palmer took over in the second and followed suit, throwing three of his own. Each had one of their picks returned for a TD. Pryor saw a tiny bit of playing time, but unfortunately when he entered the game as a slot receiver, went into motion, lined up behind the center and called for the snap, he was awarded a false start penalty. I guess penalties really have followed him to the NFL. The Chiefs beat the Raiders, 28-0.
  • Tim Tebow may, in fact, be the son of God. I'm not quite sure you can say a team that hasn't won a game all year was "stunned" by a 4th quarter meltdown and overtime loss, but, ummm... ok, ESPN. Frankly, I'd be stunned if the Dolphins beat anybody this year. That said, whether you can't help but love Tim Tebow, or just love to hate him, he completely reinforced your attitude towards him on Sunday in a way that only Tim Tebow could. With 5:23 left to go in the fourth quarter, Tebow and the Broncos got the ball at their own 20 yard line. Not only did Tebow drive them down the field to get it to 15-7, but once the Broncos recovered the onside kick, Tebow did again. And... scored the two point conversion to send the game to OT, where the Broncos finally won 18-15. Is he walking on water next week?
  • The Colts are bad. Really bad. The Colts gave up their seventh game of the season last night, losing to the New Orleans Saints 62-7. Sean Payton was spotted during the 2nd half up in the booth, due to his injury, pulling a Mark Sanchez and eating a hot dog. I don't think anyone could've blamed him at that point.

EAT AND DRINK, TOO BRUTUS. In case you missed it, the official details for both Drink Too, Brutus and Eat Too, Brutus are finally up! As an additional surprise to perk you up on this lovely Monday... details to a post-game party are included as well. We're looking forward to seeing you Friday and/or Saturday, if you're able to join, and raising some money for the Stefanie Spielman Fund for Breast Cancer Research. Cheers and GO BUCKS!

THE CURE FOR YOUR CASE OF THE MONDAYS. Perhaps, perception is reality... LeBron loves you... Everybody loves a good brawl... And, a good celebration... I'm not sure what this means, but okay.

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AGL's picture

62-7  in the nfl is =suck.   thank god bye week over

Hoody Wayes's picture

Re: 11W Poll. Who cares how Wisconsin responds? Ohio State's got a bill to collect - and it's over 52 weeks, past due.

The_Lurker's picture

I could not possibly be more sick and tired of the word Tebow. As a life-long Dolphins fan, I posted on Twitter at around 11 a.m. that Miami would lose, but I had no idea how much of his fellating via Solomon Wilcots I'd have to endure during the game, even when he was Bausermaning passes 5 yards out of bounds. I turned to my wife after the final touchdown and told her the two-point conversion would be a successful quarterback draw. Of course, it was. (If Miami has ever stopped a quarterback draw inside its own 5-yard line, I can't recall it - see also Schaub, Matt, Sanchez, Mark and even Culpepper, Daunte.) Within 10 minutes of the game ending, I had seen the hiighlight package three times on two networks. I'm not sure how the Dolphins blowing a 2-score lead in six minutes is all that newsworthy. They are 0-6 for a reason. They are terrible.

My ulcer wasn't helped that the first touchdown was one of those plays that you don't have enough evidence to overturn either way and they called it a catch on the field. The second touchdown was worse, with not one but two linemen more than five yards downfield on the pass (uncalled of course, because we can't do anything to derail the Tebow-as-second-the-coming narrative, despite the fact that a horrible defense found a way to make him look inept for 55 minutes).

I do appreciate Tebow keeping us in the driver's seat for Andrew Luck (though I'm still not sure how he managed to make Matt Moore fumble in OT from the sideline), but I'm certain that if Miami has the #1 overall pick, Luck will stay in school anyway.

AltaBuck's picture

Not a big NFL fan, but since I live in Denver, I pull for the broncos (having a hard time with this) and any buckeyes on the field. The tebow hype here is off the charts and induces daily morning java vomiting for me. I'm pretty sure the guy is the anti-christ and will lead the world into the apocalypse (Tebow head pic below).

 

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

Joe Beale's picture

Are you sure you're in the driver's seat?  Indy is looking pretty good...er...I mean bad right now. I'm willing to wager Miami wins before the Colts do. But then again I'm not a betting man so...

The Vest-er's picture

I bet I can get you betting by the end of the day

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

The_Lurker's picture

In a head-to-head matchup, I think the Colts would beat my Dolphins by at least 10 points. But that's just guesswork at this point. I think Miami's only remaining winnable game might be against Kansas City, which just manhandled Oakland, and it's at Arrowhead.

Buckeyejason's picture

Its cute how we think we have a chance at a big ten title with our 1 pass completion offense.

BUCKEYES BABY!

BuckeyeSki's picture

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

Buckeyejason's picture

I take it you you have a Prozac prescription.

BUCKEYES BABY!

NYC Buckeye's picture

"Its cute how we think we have a chance at a big ten title with our 1 pass completion offense."

 

That!

btalbert25's picture

I'm tired of hearing how Tebow just wills his team to victory etc.  They scored 18 points against one of the worst teams in the NFL.  18 points, not exactly eye popping, this guy must start every game and is a legend type of stuff.  Oh well, the announcers and analysts will continue to shove that down our throats as long as he starts and the Broncos win ball games I guess. 

Michigan State is very good when Cousins plays like he did the other night. He looked like a pretty good QB and made no mistakes.  They are going to be a tough team to beat if he continues to play that way.  Very good Defense, a great RB and WR.  If Cousins avoids the big mistakes they could be destined for a BCS game this year.

I think the winner of the LSU/Bama game wins it all this year if that team is LSU.  They have played a much harder slate than Bama, and have looked more impressive in winning.  I'm not convinced Bama is the real deal just yet, but LSU has looked pretty nasty much of the year.  If they navigate their way through the SEC unscathed, I don't see anyone being able to beat them.  Although, if the other undefeateds keep losing, we could have the first all SEC title game.  I think a 1 loss Bama leap frogs an undefeated Boise State team.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Having seen both Bama and LSU in person, I have to go with Bama.

LSU has not seen a team all year that will line up with two tight ends and go right at them. Alabama can - and will - do this

Alabama 24, LSU 17

AGL's picture

maybe a bit more on bama side

awwwwwwop's picture

I think technically PSU still holds the drivers seat to the B1G title.  They will have to beat the badgers to remain in that seat but so do we.  PSU is 4-0 in B1G play and 2-0 interdivisionally.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

AltaBuck's picture

Unless Wilson is out, I don't believe PSU has a chance of beating Wisky at Camp Randall. The badgers are still in the driver's seat to win the division if you look at their remaining schedule.

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

AGL's picture

technically yes,  but what if OSU beats wisky & psu and wisky beats psu, then again we travel to w. laf.,  and need win  in the state up north which can be interesting. just saying, have hope 4 rest of season

awwwwwwop's picture

I do have hope, I was just pointing out that we do not really "control our own destiny."  Only Penn State and Wisconsin do at this point in time.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

Buckeyejason's picture

LSU-Bama is going to be the battle of the year! The two most physical teams in the country, I don't know where's its being played? I'll say the home team wins it.

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

It's in Tuscaloosa.  I really think LSU wins, but being in Bama, I wouldn't be surprised if Bama wins it.  

Buckeyejason's picture

Its scary how good Bama's been since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa.

Herbie kept saying how Michigan State-Wisconsin game was so physical it was like a Steelers-Ravens game...I think this game will be even more physical than what we saw on Saturday.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Maestro's picture

I think this is the year that we see a Bama-LSU rematch in the NCG.

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

Won't happen. Won't ever happen.

Case and point: 2006.

Had it not for Tressel and others echoing the sentiment of "you have to win your conference to have a shot at a national title", we would have never seen Florida and the rise of the SEC.

Just because these teams appear to be unbeatable doesn't mean they aren't. We thought 2006 OSU and Mich were unbeatable. So did the rest of the country. They weren't.

Maestro's picture

It's different this time. The game is in October instead of the last game of the season. If it's a close game I think a rematch will gain a ton of steam.

Okie State will lose a game, Stanford will likely lose a game. Clemson's defense isn't good enough to run the table. Boise won't have the chops to make it to the NCG.

If LSU hammers Arkansas in their last regular season game they will have the best 1-loss resume. I am assuming that Bama wins the match up next week.

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TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

And I'm telling you it won't happen. The other five BCS conferences will not let it happen... Especially if Wisconsin ends the season with one-loss on the road on a last-second miracle play. And there's still Boise. "America's Underdog" will go if the other suitors all have one loss.

IT... WON'T... HAPPEN.

btalbert25's picture

I think if the undefeateds lose and you have 1 undefeated LSU and a group of 1 loss teams that include Wisky, Oklahoma, Ok State, K-State, Clemson, Oregon, Stanford, we have a very good shot at seeing 2 teams from the same conference playing in the title game.  Think about it, if this game is close the losing team may not drop in the human polls.  The computers love SEC teams, if Bama/LSU stay in the top 2 or 3 of the human polls, the computers will spit out a favorable number and we could very well see these 2 coming out 1 and 2.  There's still quite a bit of football to be played, and a lot still has to happen, but it's not impossible.  I'd say it's more likely to see these 2 in the title game than an undefeated Boise and undefeated LSU/Bama, if those are the only 2 teams who are undefeated.

I think Michigan and Ohio State both proved that year that they weren't the 2 best teams in America, didn't both get worked over in their bowl games by teams that were better?  It's hard to make a case for either when they both go dong punched.  I know hindsight, but I think "The Game"  that year proved that both had suspect defenses and maybe weren't the 2 best teams in the country that year.  I'm not sure that'll be the case with these 2 teams this season.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

With OSU and UM, I don't think you can really say anything about it other than people didn't want to see a rematch.  OSU had proven itself to be the dominant team that year and there were no questions about it - they beat the #2 team twice in one year and failed to beat the #2 team the third time.  The Game was a very well played game that went down to the wire, and yet people still didn't want to see a rematch. I still think that neither showed up for their bowl game and played their worst game of the season in the bowl.

Your hindsight argument only argues the point even further that there should be no rematch because we needed to hindsight to tell us that we shouldn't have had a rematch.  The argument against the rematch is simple.  If we are talking about the NC implications of this game right now (and we are and will be for the next 2 weeks), then there is absolutely no doubt that Bama and LSU know how big this game is.  Both teams know that they need to win this game to get to the NC game.  This is their conference divisional championship game.  To put it even more bluntly, this is their chance. And most schools in the NCAA don't even get one chance, why give thelosing team two?  It's actually not fair other schools or to the team that wins - the hardest thing to do is to beat a team twice.  Squash the talk now, there should never be a rematch of two teams in the same conference in the BCS NCG. You should have to win your conference to play in the NCG. I will be pissed if the propaganda wins out on this.

 

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Buckeye Black's picture

There won't be a rematch, they are in the same division, so some other team will be showcasing in a conference championship while the LSU/Bama loser is sitting at home.

Kyle's picture

Saban is a very good coach and recruiter (Les Miles is as well though not as good as Saban) but I find it extremely dismaying that nobody, i repeat NOBODY talks about the inherent advantage both coaches use in "aggressive roster management" aka oversigning.  The NCAA either needs to step in with a B1G type of rule or we should start employing the same tactics.  If kids are getting half season suspensions for selling jerseys for tattoos yet a "well-respected" hall of fame coach is cutting kids because they didin't live up to their five star billing from SCOUT I think NCAA football has officially jumped the shark.

 

 

Maestro's picture

Calling it today. Miller will have his first 200 passing, 100 rushing day on Saturday night.

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Buckeyejason's picture

Can I take a hit from whatever you're smoking, haha just kidding Maestro. What makes you think he'll put up those kind of numbers vs Wisky?

BUCKEYES BABY!

Maestro's picture

Blind faith, optimism and a bye week.

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slippy's picture

People wanted my smokes when I said we would give Nebraska hell.  Where has the faith gone in buckeye nation?

 

The key to beating Wisconsin: defensive line, tackling, and scoring early.  Russel Wilson proved he's not great under pressure.  He's still good, noted by the 2 TD drives towards the end - but his safety and 2 picks helped get them there in the first place.

Buckeyejason's picture

" Where has the faith gone in buckeye nation?"

Bollman drained all the faith that I had for this team to beat quality opponents.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

On the bright side, you can keep your mind off Bollman's hopeless offense by looking forward to the "battle of the year" between LSU and "scary good" Bama. Then, after that epic game, you can spend the following six weeks lobbying for an all-SEC rematch in the NCG! Wouldn't that be special?    

Buckeyejason's picture

Not really

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

Right on..that's a good enough reason. I hope so that'd be awesome.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Anyone else find it hard to believe ND blew the doors off Sparty earlier this season?

Buckeyejason's picture

Kind of..but that's college football for ya. I didn't think we'd struggle with Toledo or that Oklahoma would lose to Tech. Anything can happen I suppose.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Maestro's picture

Toledo's 3 "losses". Boise, OSU and Syracuse (whom they actually beat). Perhaps Toledo is pretty damn good.

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Buckeyejason's picture

I don't think Toledo is a bad team by any means..I just didn't think we'd struggle with them before the game even started.

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

Toledo is a good MAC team, but lost to the 3 teams on it's schedule it should've lost to.  One of them blasted Toledo, they allowed Ohio State's anemic(especially with Bauserman Starting) offense to score 27 points, and Syracuse is harldy a powerhouse.  I'm not knocking them, just saying they are probably better than anyone in the MAC, but not quite good enough to be a good team in a BCS conference that isn't named Big East.

Bucksfan's picture

Everyone cheer up.  Buckeyes have a score to settle.  Beilema is on record saying he absolutely hates losing to us.  With all due respect, he can go shove it up his honey badger ass.  A team full of 2 and 3 star talent is playing WAY beyond itself.  It will lose to teams that are faster and more physical.

Buckeyes have started ratcheting up their physicality more and more with every week that passes.  THIS is the statement game that we still own the Big Ten, and that we own it with run-stopping defensive power.

Hoody Wayes's picture

I agree, 100%!

Your point lies within my assertion from this past weekend, that Wisconsin is merely an arrogant upstart - not a rival. Their program - unlike Ohio State's - isn't built on a winning-a-national-national-championship-every-year-belief system.

Ohio State - like Michigan, Penn State and Nebraska - is an elite college football institution. Wisconsin's is second class.

That's why Wisconsin couldn't handle its success and failed in East Lansing.

 

btalbert25's picture

Couldn't you say that about any good team that loses a game?  What about Oklahoma this weekend?  They are as elite as any other program. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Wisky is a second tier program until proven otherwise.

But you're partly right: even top-tier programs will lose games like the one Wisky lost to MSU. 

The 2010 and 2011 Wisky teams were/are peak teams for them: last year they had veteran, peak talent on OL & DL; this year, they have typical Wisky talent but got a boost from Russell Wilson, their 1-year rent-a-QB. If Wisky is truly ready for the big time, they'll win out, including in the Rose Bowl. 

Top-tier programs don't go 0-2 in BCS bowl games during back-to-back peak years. Next year, Wisky will be middle of the pack in the BT.

Buckeyejason's picture

Didn't we go 0-3 from 2006-2008 in BCS games with pretty damn good teams. I know the 07 team lead by Boeckman wasn't a "peak" team but it certainly was very talented.

BUCKEYES BABY!

joejoekl's picture

agreed.  let's keep as far away as possible from 06-07

Run_Fido_Run's picture

My bad, sloppy wording. I meant non-NCG BCS games. If Wisky made back-to-back NCGs and got pounded in both games, I'd consider that a "top-tier" workload.

On the hand, if Wisky loses another BCS game this year (either in the Rose Bowl or, say, the Orange Bowl, etc.), that wouldn't convince me that they've jumped into the top tier.

Ohio State is 6-3 in BCS games, with two of those losses in NCGs. Thus, they're 6-1 in non-NCG BCS games. Wisky hasn't won a BCS game since the 2000 Rose Bowl (1999 season).

Oklahoma is a top-tier program, but they've gone 3-5 in BCS games and hadn't won a BCS game since the 2003 Rose Bowl prior to getting off the schneid last year against mediocre UCONN. In other words, Wisky doesn't have to be USC under Carroll or Florida under Meyer to be considered "top-tier," but they're definitely not at the level of Ohio State, and they're not even Oklahoma.

btalbert25's picture

I guess I just don't buy into well they lost this game the other night so clearly they can't handle success and aren't an elite program.  Above someone mentioned Nebraska and Penn State as elite.  Well historically speaking sure, but I don't know, Wisconsin has been had as much of more success than those 2 schools during the BCS era.  I probably wouldn't consider Boise State Elite, but they always seem to win their BCS bowl and beat the BCS teams they match up against.  Oregon is hardly elite in my opinion, and they darn near won it all last year.  Stanford could find their win in there this year, and with a talent like Luck, they would have a chance to win it all, despite probably being a mediocre to bad team next year.

History doesn't always matter, you don't have to be in a national title hunt every year, to have one team that can win it all.  Wisconsin is pretty much out of it now I'd say.  There are a lot of other teams who could be undefeated or have 1 loss and with their schedule they likely won't make it if there are other 1 loss teams, but that doesn't mean they weren't as good as any other team the last 2 years. 

They could go back to being average next year and that doesn't take away from the quality of teams they've had the last 2 seasons.  I don't think anyone on here has argued that they are the same level program wise as Ohio State.  They have however, been a pretty formidable foe for quite some time.  Alvarez had them in what 3 Rose Bowls?  They seem to knock off Ohio State a fair amount compared to what other Big Ten Schools have done.  They also usually pull off nice wins in bowls, like Arkansas or the Miami game a couple of years ago.  They typically represent the conference pretty well.

William's picture

I agree with what you have to say Btalbert. But I will have to disagree with you about Stanford. I think with Luck at QB, they may be the one school that could beat LSU, Bama won't folks. Anyway what I disagree about in regards to Stanford is that they won't be mediocre or bad next year, as they continuously bring in good recruiting classes that are heavy on O-lineman and pro-style QBs.

btalbert25's picture

Perhaps they will be, I think after losing Harbaugh last year and Luck this year there will be a bit of a drop off, but they may sustain success for a while.  Especially, with USC's scholarship losses.  Stanford may benefit quite a bit from that with top talent from California.

Buckeyejason's picture

I can't be more impressed with Stanford. It thought they'd drop off a lot with Haurbaugh gone as well..nope they continue to roll teams up one by one.

I do think they'll drop off next year without luck though.

Stanfords getting a lot of good quality players outside of Cali as well. They just seem to play extremely diciplend football.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

I'm finding it harder and harder not to call Boise State elite..they just don't seem to lose games, EVER!

Can't believe Kellen Moore is going to be the winniest player in college football history.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Maestro's picture

I think they are, but with their schedule they don't stand a chance of proving it to the naysayers.

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Buckeyejason's picture

Fair enough..I'd call them an elite coached team than considering they don't have a good recruiting base in Wisconsin and hardly pull off stellar recruiting classes.

BUCKEYES BABY!

kevinfrenchfry's picture

they are elite yes, but they shouldnt have been in a single national chamionship game theyve been in in the last ten years, i firmly stand by the big ten being the second best conference, the big 12 is slightly overrated

Colin's picture

That ending deserved the holiest of molies, but Wisconsin is still really good especially on offense so if we hope to have the slightest chance of winning our d line can't be humiliated like they were last year. I think our defensive line vs their offensive line decides the game.

Buckeyejason's picture

If we beat Wisconsin..everyone on here can come back and bash me all they want, no holding back.

I just can't seem to find the confidence in me to think we'll beat that team with the offense that we field every week. Our defensive line could play lights out but we still have to be able to pass the ball to win this game.

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

I feel about the same as you.  The Illini moved the ball in the 4th quarter, a better coached team may have stole that game.  We saw what the D looked like in the 2nd half against Nebraska.  If Ohio State doesn't get some passing yards, and fails to eat up some clock, the Wisconsin O-line, Wilson, and the RB's will have a field day in the 2nd half.

Buckeyejason's picture

I wouldn't say the better coached team one, I'd say the team with the better players one. Yes Zook lacked common sense and pretty much blew the game for them..but I don't think Fickells a better coach than Zook by any stretch.

Unless you meant better coached in that one game specifically?

BUCKEYES BABY!

btalbert25's picture

I meant that a team that was coached by someone better than Zook may have stolen that game away at the end.  He displayed horrible decision making and clock management.  I don't think Ohio State outcoached Zook per se, I think Zook just isn't a good coach and he hurt his team's chances in that game at the end.

btalbert25's picture

it was a long shot no matter what, just don't think Zook handled the end of that game well at all.  They were moving the ball but had no urgency at all, and I guess it's debateable whether or not they should've taken the points rather than go for on 4th down.

Buckeyejason's picture

Yeah I hear you on that.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Bucksfan's picture

I bet there are Wisconsin fans who said the same thing before knocking our powerhouse teams off the pedastal 4 out of the last 8 times we've played.  Screw the Badgers!  This is our house.  Our boys can beat them, just like theirs have beaten us when they shouldn't have.

Tim's picture

If Kirk Cousins wins the Heisman over Keith Byars this year because of the Hail Mary, I'm going to be pissed.

btalbert25's picture

To me the difference in the game Saturday was Kirk Cousins.  When Michigan State struggles it's because Cousins makes horrible decisions.  Saturday, he looked darn good.  My worry is that Ohio State's offense will be too one dimensional, because it has been pretty much all year.  If they are to win this game, it's going to have to throw the ball around some, and that worries me.

I think Ohio State can win this game, but they'll have to play better than they have all year.  A pissed off Badger team kinda worries me too.  The bounced back well last year after losing to Sparty, I hope this year an emotional loss like that has the opposite effect.

Buckeyejason's picture

LOL Tim

BUCKEYES BABY!

Powers's picture

I always put an asterisk with OU's home winning streak because they didnt have Texas coming to their place every other year

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

The BCS should just change the SEC Championship game to the National Title Game and make all the other BCS games just that. BCS Bowl games. Until its a level playing field as far as recruiting, scholarships, penalites and suspended for infractions, the SEC is going to continue to dominate seeing as how they get away with what should be considered murder in the NCAA football realm. LSU players have literally gotten away with assault and battery and drug use and gotten a slap on the wrist. All while Posey sits for an ENTIRE season?!? O_o

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Squirrel Master's picture

Lloyd: I want to ask you a question... straight out, flat out... and I want you to give me an honest answer. What do you think the chances of OSU beating Wisconsin?
Mary: Well Lloyd... that's difficult to say... you really don't...
Lloyd: Hit me! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are OSU's chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: [Gulps] You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like... one out of a million.
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

Irricoir's picture

Does anyone here think Wisconsin got screwed (Just a little). It looked like MSU got a little home cooking. The call was no touchdown and even on replay I couldn't see a distinctive angle that lead me to believe it was in fact a touchdown. In that situation are the refs not supposed to go with the original call on the field. I saw nothing that was conclusive. I mean it didn't happen to the Buckeyes so I don't really care what the outcome was but it looked wrong to me.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Bucks's picture

If anything, I'd say MSU almost got screwed not the other way around. On replay & even later with overlayed lines, the ball clearly crossed.

Irricoir's picture

I guess I saw the wrong angles then. Glad justice was served.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Squirrel Master's picture

yeah, they drew a line and you saw the ball over it. it was definitely a touchdown!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

btalbert25's picture

I think the fact that MSU went through a whole game with 0 penalties is more indicative of Wisconsin getting screwed than the final play and replay decision. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Except Wisky didn't get screwed.

Besides, what would have been the refs' motives for screwing Wisky, the darlings of the BT (and the team with the best chance in the conference of making the NCG)? Are you wondering if Wisky simply got homered (influenced by the crowd atmosphere, etc.)?

Wisky's OL did get away with numerous holds and cannot recall the officials missing any should-have-been penalties against MSU. 

btalbert25's picture

I'm saying they got home cooking, not sure it would've mattered anyway, but when was the last time you saw a game that physical where one team went through the whole game with 0 penalties?  I don't know that there was a conspiracy by the refs, just find it odd that a game that was such a grudge match, had one team with 0 penalties.

slippy's picture

All the Wisconsin fans are bitching about this.  It happens.  OSU's opponents have  been the least penalized teams in the B1G for the past decade.  Also corrolates with OSU being the best team.  Sometimes it just happens.

 

But besides that - Wisconsin got away with some seriously blatant holds, so there's no room to talk about penalties.

kevinfrenchfry's picture

wiscy got away with holding all game, theyre offensive line is good but not especially athletic big men

timdogdad's picture

can someone go over how wilson left nc state and got rented by wisky?  if he had a year of eligibilty left why transfer? was there a rift with nc state?  how odd is it that we have had all of these players out, gone to nfl. plus tress leaving, etc and wisky just gets some ringer to join them.  that would be like us not having any problems, but pryor leaves for the nfl and then taj boyd calls us up and says-need a qb this year?  what are the odds?    

BucksfanXC's picture

I think he only went to NC State to play baseball and that didn't pan out so he wanted to play football at a school where football matters.

He got to transfer because of quirky rule that allows you to transfer if you are going to grad school and have to move to a different school that offers your grad program.

That's my two cents and cursory understanding of the situation.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I don't mind the rule that allows a player to play immediately so long as they've already graduated. This has happened several times (Masoli) but this is the first time it's had such an impact.

I think if the Tressel-debacle had never occured and Pryor had gone in the April draft, we'd have had a spectacular shot at landing Wilson.

BoFuquel's picture

Let's face it, Wisky is the poster child for the embodiment of national perception of B1G football.Fat, slow,and feminine.That's not gonna change as long as they have The Bielemonster as a frontman. Punch her in the mouth and be done with it. GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Menexenus's picture

Ha!  :-)

Real fans stay for Carmen.

kevinfrenchfry's picture

can someone helo me out here i havent been to an osu game since 06 and i was wondering can you hear the band from the c deck?

Jason Priestas's picture

Yes. You'll have no problem hearing the band, Kevin.

kevinfrenchfry's picture

haha thats good new jason, im so pumped for this weekend