The Rebound

By DJ Byrnes on September 24, 2011 at 6:59p
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Y'all know what it is. The Buckeyes, utilizing crazy things like forward passes to receivers/tight ends and a potent ground attack, sent the Colorado Buffalos tumbling to 1-3 by a final score of 37-17.

The defense was able to put a strangle-hold on Colorado, who at times was its own worst enemy. Jordan Hall continued his current tear. Oh, and that Braxton Miller kid was finally given autonomous control of the reigns of the offense. While he only completed five passes on the day (40% of them going for touchdowns), Braxton showed some of the running ability which caused the coaching staff to supplant Joe Bauserman with him earlier this week.

While I'm sure the level-of-competition card will be played by the doubters, it was a solid win off the rebound for Coach Luke Fickell and the Buckeyes. There appears to be some things which Ohio State can build on going into Big Ten play next week, so feel free to leave your thoughts/opinions in the space below.

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The Buck Guy's picture

To be honest, I am very happy for the win.  But, I honestly don't know what to think of this team.  CU just made sooooo many mistakes to win this game for the Buckeyes.  A lot like Akron IMO.  Brax showed he's a good run threat, but not a good passer.  Didn't see enough Bauserman to know if he can rotate in to get big pass plays if we need it to play catch-up.  And the D-Secondary looked bad even in the win.  At the end, I don't think we really know if the team is improved or not.

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

Buckeye in Athens's picture

Saying things like "he's not a good passer" is pretty unfair. Yeah, he had a low completion percentage and a couple throws were ducks, but his receivers weren't helping him out and he's a freshman! He has good mechanics, didn't turn the ball over, and was a dynamic runner. I just don't see a reason to be pessimistic, as the kid is only going to improve with his passing. We must remember that this is his first career start. 

Alex's picture

agree with buckeye in athens....give the kid some patience...this has to be a good confidence booster for him, he will only get better moving forward...i think we can beat MSU by running the ball effectively and Miller making the passes he's supposed to and protecting the football...that would be an even bigger step forward

Menexenus's picture

I thought Colorado had a win already...

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Alex's picture

they do..beat CSU last week...fixed :)

The Buck Guy's picture

Not being pessimistic so much as realistic.  CU is no better than Akron to judge this team by.

Miller is a bad passer. It doesn't matter if he's a freshman, first time starter, whatever. Bad passing is bad passing.  He did have two good passes though, so we can hope he builds on that for the future.  But it's not a given that he definately will improve in his passing, especially since he will be facing much better defenses than what he faced today.  I really hope he improves like Troy Smith did, and not like what we saw from TP.  But we can't know how he will do yet.

~ The Buck Guy
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Buckeye in Athens's picture

And since it's not a given to know how he will do, it is unfair to call him a straight up bad passer. He had some bad throws, but that does not make him a bad passer. 

williams.3012's picture

Bad passes? Yes.  Bad passer? We don't know yet.  I think one full game of work is to little to really put a label on a player, no matter what happens.  Obviously Troy Smith level improvement would be fantastic but I won't complain with TP like win-loss numbers (he may have been a POS but the guy won games).  Referring to your first post, what made you say the secondary was so bad? I didn't really see anything that made me feel that way, maybe I'm alone in that though.

The Buck Guy's picture

Fairly said.  I shouldn't have said bad passer (we don't know how he will improve), but bad passing is a given.

The secondary was bad because of a few things.  Howard really failed in his coverages today.  Also, the LBs were being held back into zone coverage rather than being used to pressure the QB, and they did awful defending the pass.  They were burned each time in the middle.  Also, the screen was ripe for the picking, but CU was just awful with drops and bad passes both. (thankfully CU's mistakes really paid off for the Buckeyes).

I'm hoping that Heacock will use more pressure against MSU next week.  If he gives Cousins all of the time he gave to CU today it could get ugly.  Since Sparty's weakness is their O-line, there is no excuse to not use multiple blitz packages against them.  That's when Cousins starts messing up.

~ The Buck Guy
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Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Colorado would hammer Akron by three or four touchdowns. Bad passers are not usually ranked in the top10 by most/all recruiting services. Pryor looked bad at times and was a BCS MVP two years in a row. Chills on the one game nut shell observations of an 18 yr olds first start for TOSU.

ih8rolltyde's picture

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****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

The Buck Guy's picture

It is absolutely fair to call bad passing just what it is.  The bad passing I refer to is not in the future... we've witnessed the bad passing on the field!  And like I said, we did see a couple of good passes, but those were the exception rather than the rule.

Why is it wrong to state fact here?  I swear, there are some truly bizarre fans.  The man-crushes that cause fans to not see truth just baffles me.  The same fans who were so quick to bury Bauserman for his bad performance at Miami ignored Miller's bad game at Miami.  Then, today they want to make believe that he is not a poor passer...????  It is just weird.

I want Miller to become great.  A great scrambling QB.  A great passing QB.  A great Buckeye Champion!!!  But I am being honest with my evaluation about his performance right now.

Go Bucks!!!

~ The Buck Guy
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Riggins's picture

Nobody said Braxton was going to be a cure-all in his first start.  I still think he needs to take every snap this year.  He gives us the best chance to win.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I thought Braxton looked okay in his first start. He had two nice touchdown passes to Devin Smith (40+ inch vert what). He had one out to Fragel that had some nice zip.  A few over the middle should've been caught or were tipped (one by TY, one by Smith), and then you had Berry's dropped screen pass that hit him in the chest.   The only bad one off the top of my head was his overthrow of a WIDE open Hyde.  The other thing to remember is he is working with inexperienced wideouts out there.  Braxton's passes today would have been caught by Dane or Posey. 

We all want Braxton to get better.  I don't think anyone is saying he is Andrew Luck out there, but all in all, I saw plenty to build on as a passer.  His legs will do enough to let him make plays for the time being.

The Buck Guy's picture

I can try to remember all of the bad ones. The one Fragel grabbed that was thrown behind him was a great save on a bad pass.  The pass to Berry was a bad pass... it should have been a soft dump but he threw a bullet at a RB only 4 yards away from him (no RB makes that catch). The missed TD pass where it should have been higher and over the back shoulder was into the DB instead (luckily the DB didn't turn to see it and get a pick). There were others but I'd have to rewatch the game to note them.  There were two very nice passes like I said, but Bauserman passed even better in the few he had during trash time.

I also agree that we all want him to get better, and that his talents as a scrambler make him a great weapon.  He can definately keep some drives going for the team; but that won't win come-from-behind games like passing can.

~ The Buck Guy
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DallasTheologian's picture

I suppose we just disagree about what bad passes are. I think you'll have a hard time convincing me that it was a bad pass if the reciever gets their hands on it with more than a 50/50 chance of pulling it down. And the bullet to Berry should have been caught...period.

Bauserman throwing darts in mop up time is not evidence that he is better, it is evidence that it is mop up time.

Riggins's picture

Pretty much this. Was the intended receiver able to continue his route (i.e. no mid-air adjusting)? Did the receiver get two hands on it?  If yes to both, I think the QB did his job.  If the QB is a Heisman candidate or future first round pick, I might allow a little more room for criticism.

DallasTheologian's picture

I don't think it's fair to call him straight up a "bad passer." I honestly did not see more than one "bad pass."

The drop by TY was a good pass. The "drop" by Smith was an amazing pass. Which of his passes were bad passes, keeping in mind that non-perfect spiral does not equal bad pass neccesarily.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

Yeah, TP threw some very pretty spirals to empty parts of the field.  As I saw it Miller had only one ro two "WTF" balls.  TP still had those last year and in bunches at time.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

Bucksfan's picture

The receivers aren't getting done what's expected of them.  The running game was very good today, as was the return game.  Defense played fairly well, too.  Colorado is also an awful football team.  What was this, their 18th straight road loss?

Some typical crap by the OSU offensive lines once they got down in the red zone, too.  Bad blocking, giving up sacks, false starts.  Just stupid play when scoring opportunities were present.

Still not even close to being a division contender.  But at least Miller will make it entertaining...shades of a former #10.

BuckeyeSaab's picture

I agree, I said it looked like he was channeling Smith on that busted play than he gained 2-3 yards on vs. a big sack.

I'm sorry for not being sorry.

The Buck Guy's picture

I said the same. Braxton looked a heck of a lot like Troy Smith on the scramble when he should have been sacked. Really impressive skills with elusiveness.

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

Carolina Buckeye's picture

I am completely satisfied with how Braxton Miller played today. Actually, I am elated.

I am not really happy with how the coaches used him.  5-13. I think easily should have been 7-13. Not blaming WRs, should be caught but I just don't feel like the coaches are helping Braxton be successful with the play calls that they use.

I think we threw one wr screen and the ball out to fragel. I would have liked to see a jail break or bubble screen to reed, smith, spencer,..whoever. Even go "shot ginn" circa 2005 and get hall on a glorified sweep.  Get Braxton some easy throws, build some confidence, and also let some other guys make some plays.  Braxton was already sore during this first game. He isn't a big QB and the designed runs, although effective for now, I don't like for two reasons. The first is that he isn't big and if he gets dinged up running he could get seriously hurt, which means Bauserman again, and two, the designed runs only contribute to his happy feet in the pocket.  Every young/inexperienced QB has them and running 8-10 designed runs makes him look to run more when he believes the pocket is collapsing around him. I think the O Line is doing a good job with running blocking but they don't hold a solid pocket for an inexperienced qb to feel comfortable to throw in.  The play action, 5-7, hell even 9 step drops some of the plays we run dont give Braxton time to make a quick read and throw. I refuse to believe he can't comprehend a bubble screen or a quick 3 step drop and inside slant, even moving him out and hitting stoneburner or fragel on a tight end leak/release. My plea is to let Drayton have a bigger role in the game planning/play calling and give Braxton a better opportunity to make easy throws and easy reads, get comfortable making throws. The game is not going to slow down for him if he is constantly running draws and designed runs. I believe that Braxton is a good passer, I think he'll get better every single game, but i think that the coaches need to help him out as much as possible.

 

BoFuquel's picture

Brax did everything ask of him. Didn't turn the ball over, played wiyhin himself,let the kickers do their job.Near perfect on offense.

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Peter Pete Peterson's picture

I agree with Carolina Buckeye. Let's talk facts, first college start, at home in front of 106,000 after a horrible outing by both qb's last week! That lingering dread of getting yanked for mistakes, but wanting to make up for all of the Miami game! He's a freshman, 18 years old. Ya think he might have been a little nervous?
Let him settle in. they wouldn't have recruited him if he couldn't pass the ball, we have plenty of running backs!

Peter "Pete" Peterson

"Recruiting is like shaving, if you don't do it everyday, you look like a bum!"  -Jim Tressel

 

Menexenus's picture

We sure do look bad, though, after Kansas State beat Miami in Miami...  Miami is 1-2 now...

Real fans stay for Carmen.

Kalamazoo Steve's picture

Did you think the Boilers were a better team after that melt down a couple years ago? Flukes happen. I like our future much more than the U's. This team will get better each week, win or lose, and will be scary good in a year or two. Talent.