Thursday Skull Session

By Alex on October 14, 2010 at 6:00a
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Indeed Sir (Photo/Jeff Svoboda, BSB)Photo: Jeff Svoboda/BSB

 "Silence the Doubters" If you missed it in "Buckshots", that is the new motto for the 2010 Ohio State Buckeyes, created by everyday fan Eric Hanscel. Hanscel has gone from "Joe Buckeye Fan" to semi-celebrity status through that little phrase that he originally put on his neon orange posterboard sign at OSU games (both home and away) in 2008 when Terrelle Pryor, "Block O", and a majority of the impact veterans on this year's team made it's way onto the scene in Columbus. The slogan made it's way onto a t-shirt at a pre-season Ohio State picnic, where many players took notice, liked the theme, and even wanted a shirt or two for themselves. The motto currently rests on a long red banner hung outside the parking garage on the corner of Woody Hayes and Cannon drives so that the team can see it when it walks from The Blackwell through SJA for Skull Session.

Hopefully the Buckeyes can indeed silence the doubters this season and bring home a MNC to the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. One way they plan to do that is to deflect all the attention surrounding the team being placed as #1 in all polls accounted for. Terrelle Pryor apparently called a players-only meeting after it was announced the team would be ranked first in the newest polls. He addressed the team, acknowledging how important the honor was, but made sure that the players knew they needed to stay focused and wanted to avoid anyone getting a big head over the new title at the top of the college football world. The "Tressel-ization" of Terrelle Pryor continues and if you're a Buckeye fan you have to smile ear to ear at the way this kid has come in as a self-proclaimed "punk" and emerged as the real leader of a team that is willing to follow him. These intangibles are invaluable when it comes to making a run at the MNC this year and it's good to see the Buckeyes have what it takes off the field to make sure the job gets done on the field.

 One player who can help "silence the doubters" is Jonathan Hankins. The 6-3/335 freshman defensive tackle, know as "Big Hank" has certainly been an impact player in his first season in Columbus, providing the team with a long-needed true nose tackle and giving starting nose tackle Dexter Larimore a breather every now and then. Dave Biddle has a nice little write-up on #52, who may play a very big role in stuffing the Wisconsin running game this Saturday.

 Impact freshman are hard to find. When you find a recruit who can see the field in their first year in college, you have to go all-in for them. It seems that's what Ohio State has done with Jadevon Clowney, the #1 overall player in the country by virtually all recruiting services. Clowney was not really on the OSU radar in the beginning of the process and vice versa, but the Bucks' good play on the field coupled with a late recruiting pitch officially has Ohio State in Clowney's top four and in line for an official visit. Being that he's never been to Columbus, getting him on campus is the first step (Michigan game perhaps?). Anything is possible after that so continued to stay tuned for updates.

 Speaking of the success OSU has had on the field this season, Ross Fulton continues his good work on the "x's and o's" with an IU and mid-season breakdown of the Buckeyes. Sans Illinois, the Bucks have been pretty deadly on the offensive side of the ball and have virtually locked down all six of their opponents on defense. Many critics are trying to scrape up anything they can against the Buckeyes by saying that their schedule has been weak, but in my opinion I think you have seen a very well balanced attack that will continue to grow more dangerous to foes as the running game evolves. I also have a hunch that if Pryor never got hurt against Illinois you would have seen his passing numbers improve in the second half, or at least seen him rack up a bunch of yards on designed runs a la the Miami game.

 One team that hasn't been great on the field or on the recruiting trail this season is Penn State. The Nittany Lions have struggled in 2010, behind the inept offense led by freshman quarterback Rob Bolden, injuries that have plagues both sides of the ball, and a defense that lost it's best players from last year's team. Those three things are obviously making things sad in Happy Valley, but there is also the question of holding Joe Pa accountable. I think you can compare this situation to the Bobby Bowden at FSU issue in the sense that recruits want stability at the top of the program and there is a big question mark when it comes to that area for Penn State. Joe Pa can only hold on so long and PSU doesn't even have a "coach in waiting" in place as the Seminoles did with Jimbo Fisher. You saw how recruits flocked to Tallahassee after Bowden "resigned" and how the excitement behind Fisher has lead to success on the field so far this season. Is Joe Pa holding Penn State back? Is PSU just a program that has to rebuild rather than reload? Only time can tell, but right now I'm leaning towards the former.

 Finally, throwing a little basketball in the mix, practice is set to start soon and Lee Caryer has a nice preview on the 2010-2011 basketball Buckeyes. With four returning starters back, the Bucks will primarily have to figure out how to replace Evan Turner. Do they play Buford/Lighty at the point and start Jared Sullinger? Do they go with the freshman Aaron Craft and let Lauderdale and Sully battle it out to start at the five? Is there another option like starting DeShaun Thomas? It will be interesting to see what Thad does come opening night (as he doesn't have the answers right now), but one thing that is for sure is that this team is too deep to go with a 6-man rotation like last season. Buford, Lighty, Diebler, and Dallas provide leadership, while Sullinger, Craft, Thomas, Sibert, Smith (when he returns from injury), and Weatherspoon provide support and lay out the future of the program. I think the season depends on how Buford develops into the number one scorer, how quickly the freshmen can adjust to the college game and contribute, and as well as what Thomas, Sullinger, and Weatherspoon can provide inside the paint in addition to what Ft. Lauderdale already brings to the table.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE's picture

Silence the doubters... I love it.  If (when) OSU get to the National Champ. game, Mr. Hanscel should be given the honor of dotting the I.  Simple, eloquent and to the point....

Leanenaud's picture

I think silencing Camp Randall would be a good start.

iball's picture

1. Terrelle Pryor- Is there a chance he earns back the "LIC" moniker with a big performance in Madison this weekend? Ask me, and I'll say TP's leadership abilities go far and beyond LeBron's.

2. Big Hank- I love this guy. But why do fat guys always end up fan faves? I got Christian Bryant being a household name when it's all said and done.

3. Jadevon Clowney - Could step right into the rotation after Killa Cam's departure. I can't help get the feeling he's taking advantage of a free trip to a great city. IDK, maybe its a little of the Seantrel hangover. But I won't dislike Clowney if he decides on elsewhere. It's not like he had OSU all along, then jumped on the Kiffin bandwagon.

4. OSU success - Kick a down dog long enough and one day he will rise up and bite your foot off. As I've said before, the media is cashing in on taking shots at a team with one of the biggest fanbases in all sports. Just remember who your friends are when we are hoisting the crystal in January.

5. Penn State - Hard to find any sympathy for what I think are some of the most self absorbed fans in CFB. But JoePa should have stepped down 5 years ago. I do think his situation cost them Pryor. Wanna bang on OSU for holding too tight to tradition? They make us look like the Lil Wayne of CFB.

6. B-Ball TIME! - Let's get pumped for our basketball Bucks. Thad Matta is busting his ass and taking this program a step higher every season. I can now count on one hand the programs i think he would consider leaving for, and those jobs seem pretty locked up. So let's appreciate what we have. As far as on the court, this season could all come down to PG play. I haven't seen Craft in person, but his ball skills seem great. He will definitely need to get stronger physically to play in the B10, but all the mental toughness is there.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

btalbert25's picture

I think it's very significant that Clowney wants to make an official visit and that the Buckeyes are on his top 4 now.  I just don't see people saying you know what?  I'm going to use recruiting as an excuse to visit Columbus.  I'm not saying Columbus isn't a good town, but I also don't see it being a destination people are wanting to go see.  I think it's a legit push to get him.  I don't know if he'll end up with the good guys or not, but it's good to be in the mix.

iball's picture

I strongly disagree, good sir. Most top football universities aren't located in major metropolitan areas, aside from USC and Miami. Given that, I feel Columbus has a perfect mixture of big city feel mixed with traditional college town feel. Fan of OSU or fan of CFB, I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to turn down a free trip to an OSU football game, especially vs. TSUN. Don't get me wrong though, I would welcome young Mr. Clowney with open arms. We churn out NFL d-line like water through a faucet.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

btalbert25's picture

I understand where most colleges are, and the atmosphere Ohio State provides.  I just don't imagine a kid, especially from the south saying, I'm going to put Ohio State in my final four to get a free trip to Columbus.  He has to be interested, you know the attitude down there about this team and I just don't think he would make an official visit if there wasn't interest in the school.

Chris Lauderback's picture

My thought is that the kids don't necessarily go to a school for a free trip to see a city, they go for a free trip to see a big game. If I remember correctly, Thad had a few hoops recruits in for the Miami weekend even though one of them wasn't likely to attend OSU. He just wanted to see a big game.

blazers34's picture

I think it would be cool if the writers on the site gave their predictions each week.  Seems it would be a bit split this week.  Kyle taking Wisky, 28-20

Natty Light's picture

 somebody smack kyle upside the head. 

 

i think people looking at last years stats are overestimating wisky.  they outgained us by a ton but had a few more possessions.  Tress had a solid lead the 2nd half and a d line causing havoc in their backfield.  -> classic tresselball.  stay in deep cover 2 or 3 to keep them in front of you, run the ball up the gut 3 times in a row, punt.  Tress had no reason to take more risks on O or D

iball's picture

+1

Just goes to show how underrated defense is in ALL of football.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

buckeyedude's picture

If Michigan State can beat 'em, so can Ohio State.

 

 

Squirrel Master's picture

Clowney should go to the Michigan game. There he will see what South Carolina experienced ONCE against Alabama and realize that EVERY YEAR at OSU-UM it is like that. Why get a taste of the big game experience when it is an annual entree.

Big Ten is going to be scary in the future. IF When Pryor stays next year, check out this list of Big Ten QB's: Pryor, Denard, Steelhouse(he is going to be good), Taylor Martinez, Persa, Vandenburg, Newsome and of course Joe Bauserman. Silver Bullets are going to have to keep up.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

iball's picture

Persa? Meh. Bauserman will never start. You forgot Kirk Cousins. Bolden will be good at PSU. Keep an eye on Curt Phillips at Wisky next year. Who is Newsome? Kevin Newsome at PSU?

This brings back the bad decision made by Tahj Boyd, picking Clemson over OSU, haha. Sitting behind a baseball player, wow. He could of had 3 years in the OSU program when Pryor leaves, and thats one hell of a leg up on Braxton Miller. You chose poorly.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

M Man's picture

"Bauserman"?

I thought that part was a joke.  Braxton Miller, I fear, will be no joke.

RedQueenRace's picture

If he can make it through a season without injury.  Talent-wise he is the real deal but he is getting beat up in Ohio DFiv 1 high school ball.

The talking heads on TV are obsessed with Pryor's speed.  His strength, which he has worked hard on building, is at least equally important.

Natty Light's picture

I think Boyd might have seen Braxton Miller and the QB from glennville- cardale jones- as both bucks leans threats to replace TP, and worried that he would always be number 2 if one of them passed him in the depth chart. 

Natty Light's picture

I think Boyd might have seen Braxton Miller and the QB from glennville- cardale jones- as both bucks leans threats to replace TP, and worried that he would always be number 2 if one of them passed him in the depth chart. 

Squirrel Master's picture

Thought Cousins was a senior. My bad. Did you really take me seriously with Bauserman?

Bolden is good but from all accounts I can see Kevin Newsome passing him by like Denard did Forcier. The run first QB is the hot item now. Although I am very happy Pryor is becoming more of a pocket passer.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

iball's picture

Was Newsome hurt? Just wondered why they went with Bolden. Newsome was the much more heralded recruit.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

btalbert25's picture

I thought Bolden outplayed Newsome in practice.  That's what I took from it anyway.  Just because one is heralded as a great recruit doesn't mean they'll pan out, and the lesser heralded guy won't be better.  Remember Zwick and Smith?  I think Penn State knew they were going to have a rough season and decided to go ahead and put the guy in who was ultimately going to be the better QB based on training camp.  Here, we had to suffer through tough games with inferior QB's to get the talent in there. 

Squirrel Master's picture

Remember though, that is exactly what happened last year in Meatchicken. Denard was a bigger recruit but lost out in camp. This year he has improved and is the starter. It can easily happen next year with Newsome over Bolden.

Enough on the Penn State QB's. Hopefully Pryor doesn't leave early but if he does who is takes over next year. Please not Bauserman! Hopefully Kenny will start and Braxton can get some PT.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

blazers34's picture

maybe I'm wrong, but Im pretty sure Newsome is a sophmore.  maybe even a redshirt sophmore.  i would be surprised if he passes bolden.  more time in the system will make bolden better

SilverBullet33's picture

Anyone notice Clowney's HS uniforms?  Buckeye inspired for sure.  Just sayin'

RoweTrain's picture

Familiarity is never a bad thing (even if it is only the colors and designs on a uniform).

buckeyedude's picture

 Toledo Central Catholic's(Sanzenbacher's alma mater) uni's are almost an exact replica of OSU's.

 

 

slippy's picture

Has anyone watched much film on Clowney?  I have to say I have seen very little, but have been unimpressed of what I've seen.

 

I get the feeling this is one of those freak athlete kids.  He was always bigger, stronger, faster, so he never had to learn as much of the game or even the little things like, form tackling.  The few highlights I've seen he just gets left unblocked and jumps on the ball carrier's back.

Alex's picture

I have watched film and I actually feel opposite of your opinion. Impressed is an understatement with how I feel. This kid DOMINATES the high school level, all the more reason he is ready for college and can play as a true frosh. I get what you're saying and I think he has to learn alot from a technique standpoint, but it's also not completely fair to judge being that why use sound technique if you don't need to. Get to the QB as fast as possible however you need to. Why try all these swim moves and bull rushes if you're fast enough to blow by the blockers at the snap? Why display proper tackling technique at all time when you're strong enough to rip your competition down with one arm? I know we always want to see this out of kids and hope these habits don't come with him to school, but your goal is find ball carrier-tackle ball carrier. He does that ALOT.

Watching the video, I see a kid who is extremely athletic for his size (6-5/240). He is strong, extremely fast and quick, agile (can change directions with ease), and has a great motor, never giving up on the play. Think of Clowney as everything you hoped and dreamed Keith Wells would be. Same body type, same type of player. Clowney is just worlds better at that point in their careers and may even be better if both were on the field for the Bucks next season.

iball's picture

Fortunately, DE is a position that requires little schematic knowledge. See ball, get ball. Pin your ears back and go. No one is asking you to read a QBs eyes or cover a wideout.

I respect the opinion he is just a freak athlete, but its hard to argue against a kid who is virtually a consensus number one according to the major recruiters.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

buckeyedude's picture

'See ball, get ball. Pin your ears back and go.' ROFL.

I really dig coaching/playing like that.  Keep it simple.

 

 

slippy's picture

That's fine, like I said I've seen very little.

 

And the highlights I've seen haven't been him beating blockers...he's just literally been unblocked.  Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

I do beg to differ on the lack of necessity.  You always need to use proper tackling technique.  We see it at every level guys have a perfect shot and just try to deliver a hit and bounce off.  Guys try to tackle too high and get dragged for 12 extra yards.  I would like to see his lowlights tapes.

 

At first glance he just seems like the kind of guy that his first snap against a 6'7" 310 lb tackle he's going to end up on his backside and/or far away from the play.

BacknBlack's picture

Could not agree more w Slippy. This kid is a big fish in a small high school pond. It would be great to have him but don't think he would start in the B10 as a Fr.

Alex's picture

Yeah not sure if he'd start (we have Fellows to step in for Cam), but I think he'd definitely play as a freshman

Natty Light's picture

 he'd at least play a lot of snaps as a #3 behind fellows/williams.  look how much time Hankins is getting behind the beastly DT's we have.  nobody ranked him higher than a 3*. 

iball's picture

Well I have seen Braxton play in person, many times.

You started out hearing about a freshman at Wayne, who was the fastest kid in the conference, oh yeah, has a good arm too.

So the excitement picked up going into his soph year. But bang, season ending injury. Went to Waynes final playoff game that year vs. Colerain. Braxton had been out all year, but he was dressed, and literally having to be restrained from taking the field. So I never felt that inj was THAT bad.

Junior year started sorta weak, but that what happens when you start out with McKinley and Christian Bryant led Glenville. Braxton was far outplayed by Bryant who BTW lined up at QB, RB, S, and P, that game. (stud)

Here we are in the senior season and he's playin on ESPN tonight. He missed week 2 with a leg injury. Upon his return in weeks 3-5, he did not attempt one rush, leading Wayne to 3 wins in blowout fashion.

Basically, Im goin all in on Braxton being a legend. You heard it here.

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Denny's picture

Kind of want to get Krusty the Klown singing "Send in the Clowney" during his official visit. I think that'd totally sway his decision towards OSU.

Taquitos.

costinjr's picture

please please football gods let zach boren slobber-knock jay valai and put him on the turf

Pam's picture

I have hated that guy since the '08 game.  I read somewhere he had a concussion and didn't tell anyone until it was obvious something was wrong. At least he knows what it's like now. 

Natty Light's picture

no need to pray to the football gods.  just tell tress to call plays with boren blocking him, the slobber-knocking is automatic.

I also want to see him in the flats more if the D is in zone...he can bulldoze a corner and run for 15 yards. 

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

or just hurdle them...

 

The Ohio State Buckeyes defeated the Indiana Hoosier 38-10 at Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

blazers34's picture

I love Boren.  Dont mean to knock him, but I did see him get put on his back by an IU linebacker.  Still, he picked up the blitz.  No big deal, and happens to everyone.  Just reminded me of it when he was brought up.

BuckeyeSki's picture

To be honest, I'd rather see Dane light him up on a crackback block. Wouldnt that be epic? Payback is a bitch

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btalbert25's picture

A recruiting class with Bennett and Clowney would be quite a D-line class.

Natty Light's picture

 Steve Miller is #4 DE on scout...the only site i trust to not be SEC homers.  Clowney would give us the 1 and 4 DEs and 5, 10, and 32 DTs.  plus braxton...sounds like a NC class to me.

 

Doc's picture

You guys might want to check out the College Experiment on FoxSports.com.  It usually is funny, but this week shows why the media doesn't like tOSU.  Here's the link:  http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/college-experiment 

 

Doc

"Say my name."

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

kinda little bit of bs dontcha think

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Doc's picture

Sure it's bs, but come on.  That guy went on for about five minutes, though the joke about Mirror Lake was funny.  I'm just sayin'.

"Say my name."

741's picture

Tosh.0 he is not... Homey needs to pick up the pace of his schtick.

buckeyedude's picture

I swore I heard crickets after several of his "jokes."