Rick Reilly says OSU fans shouldn't have stormed the court (Photo AP/Terry GIlliam)Yesterday, Rick Reilly of the World Wide Leader wrote a column featured on the front page of espn.com that discussed when it was right and when it was wrong to storm the court after a basketball game. The picture that was put along with the article, and the same one that is featured above in this piece, showing Dallas Lauderdale and David Lighty celebrating on the court of Value City Arena with OSU fans after Tuesday's conference-clinching win seemed to be the inspiration for Reilly's article and lead to the magazine back page specialist to come up with a set of rules for when fans can and cannot storm the court.
I'm not completely going to disagree with what was written as Reilly's logic in his article makes sense for the most part. He cites Indiana rushing the court against Minnesota this year, Illinois storming against Michigan State, Wake Forest celebrating on the hardwood after beating UNC last season, and other examples that I completely agree do not warrant students flooding down to party with the players when the final buzzer sounds.
Where I find Reilly wrong is his list of rules that generalize when teams can and cannot participate in one of college athletics' most unofficial historical traditions after a big victory. He simply is too broad with his reasoning and applies his rules to all teams, regardless of the situation. I feel storming the court is generally a situation by situation basis and cannot be applied a broad audience. To state my case, I will take each of Reilly's rules and give an example of how it does not apply, of course, using Ohio State to counter his arguments as often as possible. You can state your case by voting on ESPN's Rushing the Court Poll.
You Can't Rush The Court If: You've won an NCAA title in the past 20 years Rule #1 is completely off base. Reilly is saying that if a team won a championship in 1990 and is horrible for the next 19 years that they don't deserve to storm the court if they beat a top ranked team or clinch a conference title? This rule is the epitome of why I am anti-generalization of these rules and why this needs to be discussed on a case by case basis. Sure there are hundreds of teams in NCAA Division 1 Basketball and you are very lucky if you get to win a championship every 20 years, but not being able to storm the court if you get a big win or conference championship after years of terrible seasons is just absurd. This one was easy and I ask that Mr. Reilly retract this immediatley.
George Mason says Reilly is wrongYou Can't Rush The Court If:You've been in the Final Four in the past five years This rule has a little bit more merit as the chances of your team falling apart after appearing in a Final Four in the last five years are minimal. Chances are you are still a respectable program and should not be celebrating like maniacs for beating a quality opponent, as you are yourself a quality opponent to others. You would think I was stuck here, but I will bring out George Mason. GMU appeared in the 2006 Final Four as a 11-seed in the NCAA Tournament and brought a whole new definition to the term "Cinderella Story". Playing an under-sized line-up filled with seniors, George Mason was able to make it to basketball's elite plateau, but their success didn't have a long lasting effect. Elite recruits didn't all of a sudden head to Fairfax, Virginia, "power" conferences didn't automatically extend invitations for the Patriots to join forces, and ESPN and CBS didn't all of a sudden televise every George Mason game they could. In fact, you can say with a 80-50 record, 1 NCAA appearance (1st round loss), 1 NIT appearance (1st round loss), and an impending NIT invitation, that GMU has become a pretty average team since they blew up in March 2006.
That brings us to February 2010 and hypothetically Syracuse, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. visits Fairfax to play the Patriots for a late season out of conference game. At 17-13 GMU has a (very) outside chance at a tournament birth and a win over a top-3 team can put them in better position. The Patriots upset one of the above in a close win and the fans storm the court. Are they wrong? I say most definitely not as the team rarely gets a chance to claim a victory over a top-25 team, let alone a top-3 team and the fans and players should get to enjoy it. This would be a great accomplishment for a school that has only made five tournament appearances since 1966 and nobody can deny that. I feel my case has been stated Mr. Reilly on this one, what do you say?
You Can't Rush The Court If:The team you just beat is not in the top three Ah, bring in The Ohio State Buckeyes. On Tuesday the Bucks beat unranked Illinois in their season home finale that just happened to clinch the conference championship and #1-seed in the Big Ten Tournament. Conference championship you say? Enter my "Conference Championship Clincher" theory, which allows any team who clinches a conference championship to storm the court, with the lone exception that they were not the pre-season favorite to win the conference. This rule would have been violated during football season when the pre-season favorite football Buckeyes had their fans storm the field after beating Iowa and clinching a conference title and Rose Bowl birth. The game-ending may have had more to do with rushing of the field, but the principles surrounding the Buckeyes' status as an elite historical football program does not warrant storming the field in such situations. However, this is not the case with the Buckeye basketball team, a squad that was picked at best third in the conference before the season started. When a team is not expected to win a conference championship and has a chance to clinch such a feat on their home court, the fans have my permission to party as they please following that final buzzer. This is a great accomplishment for any team (even the favorites), but if even further merited celebratory privileges if your team happened to be an underdog for the crown. Reilly says no fun for Buckeye fans and other teams alike, but I say party away until they kick you out of the arena.
You Can't Rush The Court If:The team you just beat is not in the top three or is ranked within 15 rungs of you For the sake of not being repetitive here I will just say that my "Conference Championship Clinching" Theory (we will call this the Tri-C Theory from now on) certainly applies once again. Illinois was not the 21st team in the nation last night and through the Tri-C Theory the Bucks are warranted to celebrate. For further argument's sake, I'll just say that a late bloomer in the rankings or a mid-major team ranked 20th also has a right to storm the court if they beat the #4 team in the country if they are not in the situation often to beat a team of such caliber, or if the win mean's something more to their season. To give you a tangible example, let's say Temple hosted Duke this past week. Temple was #20 in the country and Duke was #4. I want Rick Reilly to tell me why Temple fans have no right to storm the court after beating a highly ranked and historically reveled Duke team on their home court. How about #24 UTEP? If they hosted Duke and won they have no right to celebrate either? I call humbug on Reilly and his reasoning here.
Football school you say?You Can't Rush The Court If:The team you just beat is not in the top three or is ranked within 15 rungs of you or is a football school. This includes Florida, Texas and Ohio State. Get over it. I am just going to say: How about 2006-2007 when Ohio State and Florida were both top ranked teams in the nation? If Northwestern, a historically miserable basketball program that hasn't finished fourth or higher in the BIg Ten since 1968 and has never won 20 games in a season, beat #1 Ohio State during the 2006-2007 season, they can't storm the court, Rick? How about the 06-07 South Carolina Gamecocks, who posted a 14-6 overall record and 4-12 SEC record? If they upset #1 Florida, their fans can't celebrate on the court with their players after the game? I think Reilly is making a mistake by trying to say that football schools cannot be stormed upon. OSU will always be a "football school", but with the way Thad Matta has recruited, I think the basketball Buckeyes will be around to claim Big Ten titles for years to come.
You Can't Rush The Court If:You've beaten this same team in the past five year The Tri-C Theory can apply here with OSU beating Illinois on Tuesday, but one team Reilly had in mind was South Carolina, who stormed the court this year when they beat #1 Kentucky, after storming against the same Wildcats in 2005. Reilly says, " It's supposed to be, "Hats in the air! War's over!" Not, "I really want a picture next to John Wall!". I say the 14-14 Gamecocks (5-9 in conference) had every right to be excited about their mediocre team beating both the #1 Calipari lead team this year and the #3 Tubby Smith lead team back in February of 2005. An (possibly, if they're lucky) NIT-bound team has no place beating the top team in the country lead by the "mighty" John Wall, Patrick Patterson, and DeMarcus Cousins and South Carolina was able to do just that. Reilly says the team shouldn't be excited over the win because they beat a team within five years. I say every season is different and if your team is really bad and beats the #1 team in the nation, you certainly can storm the court as if you so desire.
You Can't Rush The Court If:You won the stupid game by more than 10 points. There is no such thing as a PRTC (Premeditated Rush The Court.) Reilly should really take a look at my Tri-C Theory because it would change his thinking and make the Buckeyes much easier not to use in fighting his arguments. He should also take a look at some of the other examples on the list or envision a fantasy world in which a small state school with a terrible basketball team upsets one of the nation's best. How about NJIT who entered D-1 basketball just three years ago. They've never reached double digits in win and had trouble getting their first victory in year two of the program. If they hosted Syracuse, in a game the Orange scheduled as a cupcake, and won by 11 points, they can't storm the court? Please, Rick, enter my fantasy world of the 336th team in college hoops beating the 1st team and make sure your rules apply to all scenarios.
Pacific certainly could've stormedYou Can't Rush The Court If:You're a university and you just beat a college, Coach K comes to your coach's clinic, You have a dead-mortal-lock lottery pick on your team, or Your team has appeared in a recent "One Shining Moment" I bunched the last four rules into one and I can take on the first two at once. In regards to a university just beating a college, the Tri-C Theory in smaller conferences where there are colleges and universities co-existing would apply. If that doesn't work for you, come back into fantasy land where there is a year where a university is so bad at basketball and a smaller college is really good and the university upsets the college. Scenario satisfied. As for the Coach K reference, I'm not sure if Reilly is referring to the fact that Coach K would most likely be at a good school's clinic or if he's referring to Duke never being able to rush the court. I can't argue too much if it is the latter (and same for a UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, etc.) even if the Tri-C Theory does apply (they'd have to be big dark horses to win the conference and that NEVER happens with these teams), but the former just is stretching this a tad bit.
As for a sure-fire lottery pick, well we do have a certain player named Evan Turner and we defied odds on my reasoning early in this article. Also, there have been great players on mediocre or bad teams, such as Michael Olowokandi on Pacific, so Reilly is wrong yet again. Taking on the "One Shining Moment", I tried to look up the list of teams that have appeared, but came up empty handed. Obviously these are teams entrenched with tradition like those listed in the previous paragraph and my argument for them being able to storm is widdled to them having to be a big time under dog to win the conference one year. Once again, I don't know if they've been featured, but the good news is some people still put Indiana in this category. While the Hoosiers had no right to storm against an average Minnesota team this year, they would have a right to storm next year if they were able to clinch a conference title, beat a top ranked out of conference opponent, or anything of the sort. IU has been such a mess since Mike Davis's departure that they deserve to celebrate the potential of some happy moments from all the bad ones Kelvin Sampson has brought onto them. Let them have their moment Rick!
Obviously I am not saying go rush the court in every scenario. Surely I agree with Reilly on many of his thoughts that students look to storm the court too often in today's world of college sports and many times it is unnecessary and unwarranted. Looking at his rules, I certainly felt they were far too generalized and I can't help but argue with a little homerism in the fact that the article came out right after Ohio State fans stormed the court to celebrate a conference clinching victory. I do think Reilly needs to reevaluate his thoughts on storming the court after reading some of my reasoning in this article and maybe some of you will too. What do you think now about the rules of when you can and cannot storm the court?
Comments
The court was stormed vs. Ill to be with Mark Titus. No other reasoN!
Sometimes, when you can't think of anything to write, you end up with something like Reilly produced.
Another ESPN writer/personality who cares more about trying to be funny than being a sports journalist. I swear they seem to hire the rejects from the SNL writer tryouts.
Serious bullshit. You can storm the court after any emotional win. That can include:
Overtime win against a good team.
Conference Championship.
Tournament Championship.
Win against a big rival.
Big upset win.
Win that is emotional for any other random reason you can think of.
That's all the matters. Who cares whether people in the media are going to judge you. If it feels right to the students and the players at the time, then it's right.
Now, being a real power should make fewer situations that level of emotional (you rarely get the upset win, although with OSU I think USC would have counted had we won, for all that we will be considered equal in hindsight no one has considered us equal to anyone since the 2006 flop). But OSU is far from a perceived basketball power, and no one expected this season's end result after we started conference play 1-3.
Sometimes when you can't think of anything to write you come up with something Alex produced.
This article reads like a 13 year old boy trying to justify his actions by finding that one lone case that disputes the others theory. When a million other cases exist that support the theory. It reminds me of when you were in grade school and the kids kept saying well what if this happened, and what if that happened.The basic point of Reilly's article is act like you've been there before, and rushing the court should happen once or twice in one's lifetime. It was up there with being carried off the court. Are we going to start carrying every player off the court that wins a conference championship?
I mean for real guys. Granted you weren't picked to win the conference, but you weren't picked to be dead last. At the beginning of the season you weren't absolutely crazy for picking the Buckeyes to win the conference. It wasn't a huge surprise. Again act like you've been there before.
I read all of Reilly's article and he didn't single out Ohio State. Hell he hardly even mentioned Ohio State. They were just tagged in the photo and a small blurb was written about them rushing the court. His main examples had nothing to do with OSU.
Just leave it alone Alex he is right.
Reilly is wrong and so are you.
Didn't he write this exact same story for SI about 10 years ago? Some cursory google-ing didn't turn anything up, but I know I've read this before.
If I'm not mistaken, Evan Turner waved the fans down onto the court after the game. I'm not saying they hadn't already planned to do so but when the POY (whether he actually wins or not) invites you down onto the court, you accept that offer and go celebrate with him because we all know he won't be back next year.
I have not and will not read something so ridiculous.... but I do have a serious reply....... and it is edited as not to offend.
F U
ESPN can kiss my butt.... If that was an SEC team rushing the court, than Reily never writes that article.
I was at the game, and yes the players (with ET leading the charge) were the ones who initiated the "rush". The students appeared content to cheer wildly from their seats, until the team waved them on to the court. I also use the term "rush" loosely since this was more like an orderly summons to the stage by the team so that they could celebrate with their fellow students, and I thought it was a great sight to see.
Other than live games, why does anyone turn on or log on to ESecPN?
Rick Reilly is a hack. I used to turn to the back page of SI to read his article first...until it one day hit me what a hack he is. He's a Bill Simmons wanna-be.
Just to expound on that a little, I say he's a hack for at least two reasons:
1) His writing is lazy. It always seems like he wrote his articles in about 10 minutes.
2) He uses gimmick stories to try to be funny. He can't just be funny on his own.
you should be able to rush the court for anything and everything, reilly is an idiot, hell i'd rush the court even if it was to get a free kazoo with matta's face on it.
OH NO COLLEGE KIDS ARE SHOWING EXUBERANCE THIS MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY
I watch SC to see how many times they can mention LeBron's name and then turn around gossip about him leaving Cleveland. Then I don't want to miss all the NASCAR and soccer updates and I cannot get enough of Mr. Tebow and they have plenty of that. And where would I be without knowing which counseling center Tiger is checked into today?
and* gossip
Rielly was the dick that wrote the article about how it was such a shame to spoil Miami's celebration with a late incorrect penalty in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. He is a clown without a suit and has an entirely justified reputation as a joke among current day serious sports media types.
While I don't really care for the article, I really don't like people rushing the court. I watched the Duke Maryland game last night and 2 or 3 of Dukes players were practically stampeded last night. The guys didn't even have a chance to get out of the way after the buzzer. I personally do feel it's kind of bush league. Even though the game clinched the Big 10 out right title, the team is good, and beat a team it was much better than. In my opinion, no reason to storm the court, no matter who is coaxing the fans out there.
Reilly is an incontinent has-been. Case in point: here, here, and really just the entirety of this site here's work.
Most of the time I feel like everyone needs to act like they have been there before. I had doubts about fans rushing the field after our victory of Iowa to take our football team to the Rosebowl.
But with this I have to disagree. Being there and seeing all the emotions with the senior night ceremonies at the begining of the game, at a time out they awarded Titus for his efforts with his charity and that was probably the last time we see the Villian playing at the Schott. I'm sure there were more "storylines" out there than any of us are aware of but it all added up to the students rushing the court. We could have beat them by 40 and it would still have felt right.
I don't agree with Reilly either. I think "rushing" the court was justified for two reasons.
1. As has already been mentioned and proof shown on national television, Evan Turner was waving for the fans to come join him on the court.
2. And this one may just be me, but this seems to be the first really good mens basketball team in quite some time at OSU that is comprised of a group of players the fans have had an opportunity to watch over time and really appreciate. They play like a team that's been through a few seasons together, and that is something we haven't seen in years. Watching one and done players come in and make the team immediately successful is exciting, but it's more rewarding, to me, as a fan when you get to see a group of guys come together and grow as a team over a few years and reach their potential to take home the regular season title. It's something we haven't seen in this program in awhile, and its made me feel more invested in this team than any other under Thad Matta. So, when they want to celebrate I can't blame anybody who wants to celebrate with them because if I were there, I'd want to celebrate too.
As I remember, the last two times the students rushed the court at an OSU basketball game were this past game, and 2007 versus Wisconsin. Both were championship clinching wins, and the last home games of the season.
The latest one, while not a great buzzer-beater or overtime victory, had the makings of a special moment with last game of the beloved Mark Titus and possible last game of the P.O.Y. candidate Even Turner - who invited the fans onto the court.
None were as spontaneous as last nights' Maryland game or the Illinois victory over MSU and both allowed ample opportunity for opposing players and officials to leave to court safely - They were really more of attempt liven up the trophy presentation. In both cases team members were happily posing for photo's with fans . . . and so forth
The whole "act like you've been there before" argument is idiotic. Have we forgotten that the student body at Universities is in a constant state of change? Chances are most students at a school were not around for the creation of whatever tradition requires "acting like you've been there before." As such, they, quite literally, have never been there before. Students should embrace moments as they arise and be proud that their team and its generation of students are making a positive contribution to whatever tradition is already in place.
good point
I guess I just don't like rushing the court/field in general. I understand rushing the field in 02 when they beat Michigan to seal up a birth in the national championship. Would I do it? probably not, but I understand it. But there are only a handful of times when I excuse it and to me they have to be pretty monumental like that game was. It's just my opinion on the matter though. I don't hate that it happens or anything, just don't think it's necessary.
Yeah but a lot of the students grew up fans and many I'd venture to say have attended football and basketball games prior to this year. I have been a fan of this program for many years and never been to a basketball game at OSU. However, I was very much a fan during the Redd and Penn days, Oden's year, and this team. So I feel like I have been there before.
OT but I really wanted to vote for JJ as the greatest, but 1 NCAA Championship and 3 Final Fours sealed it for Lucas, with Hondo as a close second.
As far as ESPN, I don't read too much into the articles and def. don't read the comments...
I'd say there's various levels, too. Knocking over anyone in your way and trying to take down the goalposts should be reserved for once a decade or rarer occasions. Going down on the court in a more polite fashion to share your celebration with the team is something I'd be in favor of for every big win.
Yeah, the comment sections are dick measuring contests for morons and border line retarted people like Peter Griffin.
I can agree with that. I wasn't too crazy about Maryland storming the court last night. They way they did it, people really could've been hurt. I'm not a hyper sensitive person who thinks everything should be avoided to prevent injury etc. But the way they hit the court last night, everyone on the court prior to that was in danger.
1 - I never believe in storming the court no matter what, I think it's stupid and has become commonplace in our society and I don't like it!
2 - The OSU players were waving the fans on to the court...mob mentality dictates it must happen haha
I read Reilly's book, "Who's Your Caddy," and really enjoyed it because it was pretty funny and decently written. Then, for Christmas a couple of years ago, I got a Buckeye basket that had the SI issue from after the 2002 championship game. The very last article in that issue is a rant from Reilly about that PI call late in the game that kept Ohio State alive. Being the most analyzed play in college football's history, we know that at least some sort of penalty should have been called on that play, and Reilly was wrong. But his lambast is at least partially responsible for the bullshit we take from people over that play. Since then, all I can see or hear when Rick Reilly writes or is on TV is over-inflated, reactionary, cynical, instant-history hyperbole.
He's an athlete ass-kissing jerk who's part of the "This is the Greatest thing EVER because it just happened and I saw it" problem that plagues everything today. There's nothing wrong with rushing the court in college sports. He must be in the running for Andy Rooney's job in a couple of years...sounds more like a crotchety old man than someone who has his finger on the pulse of sports.
I find his choice of a caption pic funny considering the criticism of how unenthusiastic Buckeye fans have been toward this team. Now we are over the top. Face it, we can't win with those guys.
We get it Brian...no celebrating for you!
As for the Illini game, I wouldn't even really classify that as rushing the court. The fans were waived down and did an evil act of celebrating with the players.
The Maryland game last night was a stampede! That place was rocking last night, pretty impressive.
There are no WRITTEN laws for storming courts. Its just one of those things.
be a lot cooler to storm the court in Indy at the end of the season
NOOOOOOOOO! We have been there before! Remember 1960?
Please follow the court rushing rules!
Swatterdale doing the running-man FTW!
Or just throw out the rules and everyone rush when they beat a 16 or 15 seed in the first round. Afterall, that would be a huge win to get them one step closer to the final four.
Don't you think there are un-written social rules (even for sports fans) that should be followed?
...or we could just be curmudgeons all the time.
I am in favor of outlawing any type of cheering or celebration in all sports. Afterall, its only sports and we need to stop having things in life to enjoy!
Well I just never realized the only place you can enjoy sports or celebrate are on the field or court. I guess paying for admission or the Big 10 Network means I'm a curmudgeon who ates life and sports because they are something to enjoy.
I don't think Alex said Reilly singled anyone out. He said that it "seemed" like the OSU/Illinois game was the impetus for the article.
also, rick reilly is an ass and wrong about everything. you might want to check your assumptions if you agree with him. he is a mean spirited hack with little to no skill. he gets by on cliches and circular non-sense that fool no one, except well...fools. he is half gregg doyel and half a sports version of tom friedman.
PS - you might be interested in this since you seem to enjoy scolding people on behavior that hurts no one: I heard the Women's Christian Temperance Union is thinking of getting the old gang back together.
ouch
Anyone remember when some Minny fans rushed the court and assisted Mussleman's thugs? Luke Witte does.......one of the darkest moments in college sports.
Senior Day and big ten title? Two pretty good reasons to get crazy after a 1-3 start in league play.
Any family guy fan can relate this to Buzz Killington and his fascinating stories. Peter Griffin says storm the freakin' court.
Be tough to get down there from the top level.
We were kinda tryin' to have a party here......
Madsen just stood there and looked awkward. At least he's consistent.
My take is that ESPN stirs up shit, otherwise folks would go to other sources for informed news and opinions, like blogs for example.
Re LeBron, after the way the Cavs jackhammered the Knicks and the Nets, I doubt if LBJ heads to those localities.
Brian, I disagree with you a bit, based on this. IMO, sports are an emotional activity, not an intellectual one, particularly for the fans. It's completely understandable for fans to get 'caught up in the moment' and want to make their way to the court to celebrate with their team.
You raise a good point about stampeding, but how often has that really been an issue?
Seriously. If Lauderdale wants to celebrate, who am I to say no? And get swatted at the same time.
you are absolutely right he invited us to come join. yet another reason why i love evan so much... he genuinely loves this city, this university, and his fans. he's trying to enjoy college and so are we. if reilly has a problem w/ that then he can just stay the f*ck out of the 43210 as far as i'm concerned.
Maybe you forget that kids are only in school for 4-5 years. At the pinacle of their tenure are they supposed to be denied celebrating with the team they support because they have to wait for the next batch to come through??
I apologize if this was already brought up earlier in the comments, but I've always found stormingthefloor.net's guidelines to storming the floor as the perfect set of rules. There's a lot of gray area there that's open for interpretation.
http://stfu.wikispot.org/Rules...
From ESPN Comments: MikeyCHX (Today at 5:58 PM)
how about this...when rick rielly and chris berman leave espn - we can all rush the court, the field, the pitch, the ice, or what ever applies at whatever venue you are at - because it would be worth celebrating
http://espn.go.com/sportsnatio...
Yeah, and if Reilly had bothered to watch ESPN's own broadcast of the game, he would have clearly seen Evan Turner do exactly that. The only conclusion I can come to is that he doesn't watch ESPN.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
For those of you who are too young or don't remember. Thousands of hits on Google if you just search Luke Witte, including a partial video.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/c...
This is why I have always hated Minnesota more than scUM.
I didn't see the incident when it originally happened, but I've heard a lot about it and have seen grainy footage of it.
The Swami, Stu Scott, and Van Pelt are the only ppl I like from ESECPN
On your 2nd point - I couldn't have said it any better myself.
lol
he has trouble controlling his bowels and or bladder?
So who's more of a hack? A mean spirited ESPN hack, or the guy who writes a mean spirited article about said ESPN hack?
Yes, it hurts no one at this moment. If it keeps up someone will eventually get hurt. That's why it should be saved for the greatest of victories.
Also, check my assumptions? You just stated Reilly was wrong about everything. I'm pretty sure that falls under a wild assumption. Thanks for your time again Doritoes
And again I don't think Reilly was pointing at the Ohio State game. He focused more on other games thus far this season. OSU just got caught in the spot light since it happened before and he had a pic of it.
The "lacking self-restraint; uncontrolled" definition.
Question to all the control freaks out there.
Since when, do we, (sports fans) need a poll to support the spontaneous reaction of rushing the court after a nerve-racking, tight, emotional victory...of any kind, at any level?
Is this the beginning of a "Brave New World" of supportive sports fans vs sport Natzism? At this rate, it won't be long before we are forced to sit on our hands during a game and leave the gym, arena, or stadium quietly and politely when the buzzer or gun sounds at the end of the game. I wonder when "they" finally realized we were having too much fun?