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Why the Spread will Kill You

The Man With The Not So Golden ArmForget this and learn how to throw all over again

The latest coming from the everyone's Lord and Savior Tim Tebow front has been news that he is adapting his throwing motion to better suit style considered acceptable by the standards of the National Football League. If you're not abreast on the situation stated in the previous sentence, Tebow, college football's most decorated athlete of the last decade and one of the most successful signal caller's in the sport's history, has a tendency to "sling" the ball from his waist rather than the traditional ear-level release seen by the strong majority of professional quarterbacks in today's NFL.

A more than successful product of Urban Meyer's spread offense, Tebow was expected by many to be selected somewhere in the first round, either because of the intangibles he brings to the table that include an above and beyond desire to win, or because of his potential ability to put people in the seats. His current slinging motion was enough to land him two National Championships, a Heisman Trophy, a Davey O'Brien Award, a Walter Camp Award, three SEC Offensive Player of the Year Awards, an AP Player of the Year Award, two Maxwell Awards, two SEC Championships, and three All-America honors, among many other accolades.

Apparently that has not been enough, as league scouts have reportedly asked for more from the do-no-wrong 22 year old who likes to spend his spare time helping orphaned children in foreign countries or assisting in the rehabilitation of inmates who are trying to turn around their lives. It has been determined that the elongated throwing motion that has helped the Florida Gators win so many games over the past four years will enable the extremely fast defensive ends and linebackers of the NFL to get to Tebow before he even has a chance to say "Go Gators". Enter Tebow's new found search for a more pro-style throwing motion, an effort to try and prove to team officials that he is willing to do whatever it takes to be successful at the quarterback position at the next level. You have to applaud the young man, no matter your personal feelings for him, for taking the proper measures to ensure he will be successful in the NFl, but you have to think, should this process even have to happen? And, if it should, who is responsible for Tebow having to "re-learn" how to throw a football?

The answer to the first question is no and as for the second question, while Buckeye fans may want to pin all the blame on Tebow, one has to look at where his talents were cultivated during the time he was a prep star until now, when he is ready to make money playing the sport. Yes, I am talking about Urban Meyer and the University of Florida, the culprits guilty of not performing their duty of preparing the best college player they may ever have to be ready to take the step from college to the NFL. Sure, Tebow came to school wanting to earn a degree from UF in a timely fashion, become a better person off the field, and win National Championships for the school, but, like any top high school athlete, his main goal in playing college football was to be developed properly by his coaches so that he could one day get a chance to play in the NFL. Tebow took care of the degree and championships, and I'm sure no matter what school he was at he would have done good for the less fortunate off the field, but I must say I do not feel Urban Meyer and his staff did all they could to prepare their golden child for the NFL.

Where does this bring us you ask? Recruiting of course. You look at the Tim Tebow rant that took up the previous four paragraphs and it seems all I want to do is rip Urban Meyer a new one. While that is always fun, the point of the previous background story was to bring up an issue in today's college football world that needs to be brought to the attention of recruits everywhere looking to choose where they will play their college football. That issue is that not all college football program's have their players' best interests as a priority.

Where is Timmy Chang?Timmy Chang, NCAA career leader in passing

You look at programs like Florida and of course, you can't fault Meyer for what he has done. He took a player like Tebow, who he knew would be a stud in his spread-heavy offense, and developed him within the system to make him the best Urban Meyer system signal caller he could be, and thus compete for National Championships on a yearly basis. While that may be great for the University of Florida, he did not make Tim Tebow the best potential NFL quarterback he could be. If you were a top tier quarterback recruit coming out of high school, and your goal after college was to play in the NFL, wouldn't you look at the situation at UF and think you would be better served attending school elsewhere to achieve your goals?

I think the answer is yes for all of you and it's not just Florida. Mike Leach's Texas Tech, Chip Kelly's Oregon, Paul Johnson's Georgia Tech, June Jones' SMU, and even Brian Kelly's offense now at Notre Dame are just a few more that fall into the same "product of a system" category that doom prospective NFL quarterbacks every year come draft day. I'm not saying Ohio State churns out successful NFL quarterbacks the way they do receivers, linebackers, or defensive backs, but the pro-style taught by JT, coupled with The Senator's placed importance on academics and growing his players as men off the field, not to mention the Bucks' ability to also compete for MNCs yearly, have to seem like more attractive options than these gimmicky systems, right? OK, Bobby Hoying, Joe Germaine, Craig Krenzel, and Troy Smith didn't exactly pan out the way we all hoped for in the pros, but pro-style systems like the one OSU runs have moved plenty of good college quarterbacks to the NFL over the years. Don't believe me? Take a look at programs such as USC, old-school Notre Dame, pre-Rich Rod Michigan, Tennessee (Ok, fine, Peyton Manning U), and others that run the pro-style at the college level and tell me NFL teams aren't happy with what those schools have churned out.

It's time for high school kids to start looking at the facts. Yes, it's fun to play in these spread-option, gimmick offenses that allow less than stellar passers to show off their athleticism, but if you are a true star quarterback prospect, you shouldn't be fooling around with any programs other than those you know can bring you to the promised land. It's certainly going to be tough for OSU to sell this idea to recruits with their lack of success landing Buckeye QBs into starting gigs in the NFL, but if they are able to continue to progress the development of Terrelle Pryor in their pro-style system, Jim Tressel will certainly have himself a successful case study to show the Braxton Miller's of the world that Ohio State is the place to be if you want to develop into a NFL quarterback one day.

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Buckaroo Gator on 25 February 2010 - 7:47am #

Yipes! A little Buckeye envy working here. It was the Gator defense that ate OSU alive, not the QBs. Don't worry about Tim Tebow. He picked the right school and will be both rich and famous his whole life.

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buckinnc on 25 February 2010 - 7:53am #

do you think he'll make as much money as he did playing college? I know that's how shaq got rich.

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Dean on 25 February 2010 - 8:09am #

I'm still withholding judgment on Troy Smith's career - hoping he gets a trade to a team that will actually use him.

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Nick on 25 February 2010 - 8:15am #

Agreed, seen flashes that he can be a very good NFL QB. Maybe Cleveland, Minnesota or Arizona will scoop him up?

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buckeye on 25 February 2010 - 8:49am #

Yeah, Tebow picked the right school if he wanted to play for a coach who disregarded Tim's future as an NFL QB and just used him to help Florida win more games. Pro-style high school QB recruits, are you listening?

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Ryan B. on 25 February 2010 - 9:45am #

Troy Smith is cursed by being 6'0'' instead of being 6'3", otherwise he would be starting somewhere.

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Mike on 25 February 2010 - 10:06am #

Glass houses and all that. Buckeyes haven't produced an nfl starting quarterback in how many years? Not that I don't think Smith *should* be starting somewhere.

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Mike on 25 February 2010 - 10:07am #

I still don't get how a 2" height difference puts Quinn in the first round and Smith in the fifth, when Smith dominated their head to head matchup (and all but one game he played his entire career).

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Luke on 25 February 2010 - 10:32am #

Bobby Hoying and Craig Krenzel both started games at some point in their careers (though that didn't go particularly well for either). Not sure the Buckeyes have had a guy start a respectable number of games since Tomczak otherwise.

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GoBucks57 on 25 February 2010 - 11:03am #

Yeah, if this was a USC blog this post would make a lot more sense.

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Gravey on 25 February 2010 - 11:05am #

Kent Graham.

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is it Saturday yet? on 25 February 2010 - 11:07am #

How could you not use Purdue as a great NFL QB school in your examples? I dislike them and all, especially this year both on the gridiron and on the hardcourt. They churn out some good QB's. Kyle Neckbeard is completely underrated and turned a really bad Denver team into a medicore team and that one guy who is under center for the Saints isn't too bad either. They have a few others as back-ups in the league.

I also agree that T. Smith could get it done if he had the chance to start on a decent team.

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is it Saturday yet? on 25 February 2010 - 11:08am #

mediocre*

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? on 25 February 2010 - 11:36am #

So, when did the definition of having a player's best interest become getting them into the NFL?

The coach's best interest for the players is to have them graduate with a college education, grow as men, and to give them the tools to succeed.

I might add, contrary to what ESPN or other news outlets may lead you to believe, Tim Tebow wasn't the only player on that team. Should Tebow's mechanics become priority number 1? What about the team's collective best interest?

I just think it's a crock of s#*$ to say Urban Meyer didn't have Tebow's best interest because he has to relearn his mechanics.

With all that said the rest of the article is on point. If a high-school kids main goal is to become a NFL QB then they should look for schools with that system.

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Tom Collins on 25 February 2010 - 11:39am #

If Brady Quinn got to play against a Charlie Weis defense, he might have put up big numbers too. I'm not sure Troy would have done that great against the Ohio State Defense that year either. It's tough to compare Apples and Oranges. In any case, Quinn sucks. Smith is still a big question mark though.

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Tom Collins on 25 February 2010 - 11:40am #

Although they haven't been fantastic, the fact that Smith and Krenzel each made it far further in the NFL than anyone could have ever imagined when recruiting should help the case somewhat. Krenzel was never expected to do anything, and Smith was supposed to be Golden Boy's backup. Just making it to the next level with their talent coming in is a huge win.

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Bucksfan on 25 February 2010 - 12:04pm #

Just being selected to the NFL as a QB doesn't mean anything. It has one of the highest bust rate of any position in the NFL. So, even if you are a pro prospect with a great college career, it means you get the chance for someone else to flip a coin on you.

Tebow's situation isn't unlike any other QB entering the draft. It's obvious that Tim Tebow is not Matt Stafford, regardless who beat who in college. It was obvious that John Elway was better than whoever the QB was at Ohio State when they went out there and beat him.

The hype around this situation is simply because it's Tim Tebow, the media darling. No one knows what will happen until he takes the field. But if there's a place for Pat 5'-frickin'-0'' White, then there's probably a place for Tim Tebow, no matter how polarizing of a 1950's throw-back he is.

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Palmetto on 25 February 2010 - 12:08pm #

I wish Tressel would utilize Pyror more like Urban used Tebow. The best thing a coach can do is to fully utilize a players talents. Tebow wouldn't even be on anyone's radar if he was in a pro set college program.

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JoseOle on 25 February 2010 - 12:43pm #

That is the whole point about Urban. He doesn't try to improve things if they are working fine. He didn't care that Alex Smith II aka Tebow isn't ready to play in the NFL. He cares about getting his money and nothing for his players. He just piles on the recruits and then they play. He hasn't coached any kid that didn't have great ability when he went to play college ball. He's not a great coach. He's John Cooper with better players, there, I said it. Saban out worked him in the SEC championship game. Florida had the talent advantage over everyone in the country, but Saban beat him on a coaching level, sometimes that's all it takes.

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Kyle on 25 February 2010 - 1:01pm #

Please, please, please, please, please, please no more talk or references to Tim Tebow. This is an OSU blog. Leave the Tebow talk to the Worldwide Leader and others. I don't wish the kid ill will, I just don't want to hear about him, his throwing motion, his virginity, his mission work, et. al.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 25 February 2010 - 1:06pm #

it may have been partly the gator defense, but eating all those IN-AND-OUT Burgers did not help. Our lineman looked FAT AND SLOW and Troy looked 10-15 lbs overweight after hitting the Heisman Buffet tables.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 25 February 2010 - 1:07pm #

Drew Brees in 6'0" also... that is BS

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Nate on 25 February 2010 - 1:08pm #

Not that I'm saying that TS is or will be Drew Brees, but Brees is 6'0". If I were Smith, I'd want a trade, and a chance to truly see if I was a legit NFL starter. It sucks what happened to him with that freak tonsilitis 2 years ago, and that blew his chances of showing the league what he could do.

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iball on 25 February 2010 - 1:09pm #

Who cares if Florida can't recruit the top passing QB's in the country. there are still 21 other positions to recruit and last time I checked those guys are doing a pretty good job getting drafted, and doing extremely well in the NFL, oh and BTW kicking much ass in CFB.

All Meyer need is an athlete who fits his system at the helm, if you wanna be Peyton Manning go elsewhere, I think Florida will still be great regardless..

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Kansas City Buckeye on 25 February 2010 - 1:10pm #

If Pryor would have made less mistakes early on, Tressel would have opened things up earlier. You can't have a QB throwing stupid interceptions.

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John A. on 25 February 2010 - 1:11pm #

As far as I can see, the only 2 Buckeye QBs, that had any success were: Tom Matte and Mike Tomczak. Graham, Hoying, Kern and Troy Smith have played some but not much in a starter roles. I wouldn't hang my hat on recruiting high school QBs by throwing out the Matte or Tomczak names. Art Schlichter was probably the Buckeye with the highest upside for a QB but other demons got in the way. I'm not sure the Big Ten is a good breeding ground for QBs based on the style of play. In my opinion, more of a running conference with running defenses, I don't think Big Ten QBs learn to read pro-style defenses which stunts their growth. Obviously a few exceptions (Drew Brees).

Go Bucks! National Championship this year!

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is it Saturday yet? on 25 February 2010 - 1:32pm #

+ 1

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gbm on 25 February 2010 - 1:35pm #

???

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Tom Collins on 25 February 2010 - 2:40pm #

Tom Tupa IMO.

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Swig on 25 February 2010 - 3:12pm #

It’s certainly going to be tough for OSU to sell this idea to recruits with their lack of success landing Buckeye QBs into starting gigs in the NFL

Lets say 60 QBs start a game in any one NFL season and the average career of said players is 5 years (if you disagree fine, rerun the math)

That means 12 QBs from any ONE draft start ONE game. Krenzel started 5 games, Smith 2 games, Hoying 13 games. It's not like they haven't gotten a chance. And how many QBs per draft actually have significant careers? 2?

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Buckeye Bobo on 25 February 2010 - 4:26pm #

Teabone will be rich, but this has nothing to do with the NFL. Teabow will make money becuase the booster payola will never stop. He is going to found/head some non-profit, which don't face nearly the same regulation as other business ventures. In short, he is going to be swimming in a swamp of slushfund, at some dumbass donors expense.

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? on 25 February 2010 - 4:55pm #

Haha what a f_ck you are! You must be a pleasant human being to be around. Wishing anyone ill will on someone who hasn't harmed you in anyway shows a lack of character.

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Ken on 25 February 2010 - 4:59pm #

.. and you're showing a lack of literacy.

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Gus on 25 February 2010 - 6:32pm #

Interesting thoughts...Gus always likes articles like this

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Tim on 25 February 2010 - 11:59pm #

God told Urban Meyer to have Tebow run the spread, so we shouldn't be too hard on him.

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college sports recruiting services on 26 February 2010 - 4:20am #

During the AAU season you have a different coach and sometimes and entirely different group of coaches. Other major advantages I see are recruiting good players to the AAU program whereas in high school, youâ??re stuck with the players who go to that school.

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BacknBlack on 26 February 2010 - 2:19pm #

So Meyer is the fall guy for why the star NCAA QB's don't play on Sundays? The NFL is left trying to market unheard of QB's to their fans. The TV ratings are not what they could be and the media monguls need to blame someone or something (the spread).

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Buckeye Bobo on 26 February 2010 - 5:27pm #

I've suspected for a long time that part of recruiting Pryor was Tressel telling him he would do everything he could as a coach to help him get to the NFL. There is an element of tough love in that, and I think its why they resited all these armchair coaches writing in mid-season about letting Pryor pretend like its highschool.

Looking back at things with the seaon over the picture becomes a little more clear. Pryor had to cut his teeth on some tough defenes as the bowlgames all showed; Big Ten was HEAVY on D this year.

Still his hesitation and confusion at some key moments against USC was totally bizare to me.

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jpf- on 28 February 2010 - 3:39am #

Graham started 38 games in 10 years and never more than 9 in 1 year

Hoying only 13 starts in 5 years and never more than 7 in 1 year

Krenzel only 5 starts in 1 year

Tupa 13 starts in 16 years with 11 in 1 season

Tomzack 73 starts in 15 years, 1 year with 11 and 1 with 15

so Tomzack had more starts than the other 4 combined

the only other OSU players to start an NFL game at QB are Tom Matte (1 game in 1965), Art Schlicter (6 games) and Troy Smith (2 games)

John Borton played in 5 games, Joe Germaine in 3 games, Dave Leggett in 4 games, and Scott Wolff who transferred to Mt union played 1 game, but none of them ever started at QB,

Rex Kern did play in 41 games in the nfl but all as a DB, and never started

not exactly a who's who of NFL QB's

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Zachary on 3 March 2010 - 3:50pm #

Actually, Elway and Art were both exceptional athletes, both of whom could have played sports professionally outside of football (Elway in Baseball, Art in Basketball). With that said, Art let his addiction destroy his life starting with his rookie year in the NFL.

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