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The Mumme Poll is Open for Registration

We posted this on the sidebar last week, but someone asked about it again this week, so we're putting this on the front page.

Basically, the Mumme Poll is the brainchild of the fantastic Georgia blog Get The Picture and the Volunteer/Crimson Tide hybrid blog 3rd Saturday in Blogtober and the poll, unlike traditional polls, picks up the voting in week six, so by the time you go to cast your first ballot, you have a better idea of where teams stand relative to one another.

The poll is also unique in that you choose your top five teams (in no particular order) and then submit a second batch of what you believe to be the seven next-best teams (again, in no particular order). The goal is that this "approval voting" method will yield better results than if you were to pick the teams in a 1-n order.

The link below goes to the open registration form. We encourage as many of you as possible to participate -- after all, the poll is pretty heavy with SEC flare right now so some northern sensibility is needed to balance that out.

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iball on 8 October 2009 - 7:13pm #

So the ranking is decided by what team is in the most top 5's?

And how are there 25 teams ranked if voting doesnt start until week 6?

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Bucksfan on 8 October 2009 - 7:55pm #

A Volunteer/Crimson Tide hybrid blog?! Who ever heard of such a thing? How can they call what they have there a "rivalry" while keeping a straight face?

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Jason on 8 October 2009 - 8:21pm #

The week 5 results you are seeing are from a test run this past week.

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Senator Blutarsky on 8 October 2009 - 8:48pm #

Jason, thanks again for the link. Right now, we've gotten pretty good registration from Big Ten fans, but we'd certainly like more.

iball, the Mumme Poll operates on the basis of approval voting. Instead of requiring each voter to rank teams in order from 1-25, voters are simply asked to provide a list of the twelve best teams in the county. The team that is listed on the most ballots is then ranked first, and so on.

The top five list is strictly for tie breaking purposes. If there aren't any ties amongst the top five vote getters, it doesn't come into play.

The point to approval voting is to limit the ability of an individual voter to impact the results as a result of bias or a conflict of interest. At least that's what we're trying to determine.

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Brian on 8 October 2009 - 9:46pm #

I like the idea, I'm registered and it should be interested to see.

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Uncle_Buck on 8 October 2009 - 10:26pm #

I have been voting in the poll. And no I didn't put Army in the top 5. I would Like to know who did though.

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Clay Shentrup on 9 October 2009 - 12:53am #

Approval voting is extremely good. Much more resistant to strategic voting than most other methods.

Score voting is even better (actually approval voting is just the simplest form of score voting, with 0's and 1's being the only allowed "scores").

Here's proof via hard Bayesian regret figures:
http://ScoreVoting.net/ShExpRe...

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Jason on 9 October 2009 - 1:11am #

No problem at all. Looking forward to this.

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Mike on 9 October 2009 - 9:14am #

Question about polls - has anyone ever done a study (or even better, have constantly updated information available) as to which poll best predicts outcomes? Would be nice to see a comparison between the coaches, media poll, ELO, or any of the other computer algorithms.

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Senator Blutarsky on 9 October 2009 - 3:08pm #

That's a good read at your link, Clay.

One reason I'm attracted to approval voting is its simplicity. With the Mumme Poll, our goal is to come up with a poll that's more credible with the public than the current Coaches Poll is. One complaint about the CP is that it's too much trouble for the coaches to keep up with and as a result many of them delegate their vote to someone else.

Based on what I saw with last year's vote, on average a Mumme Poll ballot gets compiled in 30-45 minutes, a time frame which I believe would be much easier for the coaches to handle without delegating.

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