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Navy Open Thread

...you can sail the seven seas.
Kickoff: 12:00PM ET
Previews: 11W, OHD, BC, WWAHT,
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Favorite: Ohio State (-22½)
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The 114th Big Ten football season is upon us. Your Saturday diet may be rich with cupcakes, but that doesn't mean you can't have some delicious tiramisu first.

ESPN's coverage of Navy v. The Ohio State University begins at Noon. Your announcers are Dave Pasch, Bob Griese, and Chris Spielman.

Feel free to chime in below (as well as on Twitter) and don't forget to have your predictions in by kickoff for a chance to win free stuff. And who doesn't love free stuff?

O-freakin-H! Christmas is finally here!

Comments

Buckiniraq on 5 September 2009 - 7:08am #

Good guys win by 20. Middies go back to Annapolis to practice boxing, because according to the movie Annapolis, that's all that goes on there.

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 7:15am #

I don't know what I'm looking forward to most, kickoff or the new Tim Tebow speech we'll all be better people for having listened to during College Game Day. This time, after etching the speech in its entirety in stone, why not put it in the National Archives so that the entire country can learn from it? Thall shalt not covet, Florida. While you've got your etching tools out, why not replace one of those less worthy individuals on Mount Rushmore with one Tim Tebow?

Thank God he's a senior.

And I will see CGD next week.

Buckiniraq on 5 September 2009 - 7:28am #

I did the right thing and had THE speech tatooed on my arm so that I can easily reference it at any time.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 7:36am #

bup squared reporting for duty from the far east, time to rock this party

Ken on 5 September 2009 - 7:42am #

Good God, how big is your arm?!

I have a tee time this morning, so unfortunately I'll probably miss the 1st half. What I won't miss is the ESPN pre-game nonsense and their ever-pithy hafltime analysis.

I-freakin-O
Go Bucks!

JT on 5 September 2009 - 7:54am #

Well, you know we've had a good rugged camp and the boys, well you know they have worked hard and we will see how we stack up against a good Navy team. They are well coached, they come right at you and they are good. I feel good about our camp and our practice this week and I look forward to a good contest between two good good football teams and so forth.
Go Bucks and so forth.

X.V. on 5 September 2009 - 7:56am #

ohio sate 34 navy 13...tressel shuts it down sometime in the late 3rd early 4th out of respect

mcnutt4heisman on 5 September 2009 - 8:15am #

ken-reread what you typed and then ask yourself "i was once a man wasn't i? what's wrong w/you? golf over the buckeyes?you need to re-evaluate your priorities stat.

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 8:19am #

You do know he is the 13th apostle.

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 8:21am #

Does anyone remember when Herbstreit was a nice,humble guy? Now he is all that and is just too cocky.

Josh_Alum on 5 September 2009 - 8:27am #

Ken's problem is he didn't plan far enough ahead - 8am tee time, and you pre-game while golfing, then make the wife pick you and your drunk ass buddies up and take you to watch the game at like 11:00.
Yes Ladies, I am single, if you're wondering..

anon on 5 September 2009 - 8:36am #

Buckeyes 122, Navy 1

Poe McKnoe on 5 September 2009 - 9:07am #

Do we spot them that 1 as a sign of respect to our military?

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 9:07am #

Ray Small out due to illness. Have to check the two deep roster to see who the back up is.

Listening to 97.1 on the internet. Pregame is awesome.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 9:08am #

"I have a tee time this morning, so unfortunately I’ll probably miss the 1st half."

I will also be drinking chardonnay and sampling Spanish cheeses, so I will miss the American football scrum!

Wow, have fun with that, I'll be crushing Natty light and yelling at the TV even when we are up by 40.

GO BUCKS!!!

Dean on 5 September 2009 - 9:16am #

You'd have to check the four-deep to see who Small's back-up is, he's third-string at the moment.

Jeff at The BBC on 5 September 2009 - 9:19am #

No, that's Rufus.

Tebow must be 14th.

LouHoultzth on 5 September 2009 - 9:26am #

The hour isth upon us gentlemen!! Here'sth to a great stheason... And plenty of my pregame sthpeeches!! ...

Go Bucksth Baby!!

blazers on 5 September 2009 - 9:28am #

first thing i did today was listen to Cie Grant sing Carmen Ohio

Dean on 5 September 2009 - 9:28am #

Ahh that made me laugh out loud, but my wife didn't get it :(

canukeye on 5 September 2009 - 9:58am #

looking for away to watch the game online. Any suggestions?

chris on 5 September 2009 - 10:27am #

checking in from Anaheim...got the kids and lady representin in full buckeye regalia...trying to get them prepped for some SoCal cat calls.

BuckeyeSki on 5 September 2009 - 10:32am #

checking in from Albany boys....you ready?! 1.5 hrs to that glorious sound of a pigskin getting kicked off a tee. Im about to enjoy my first redbull & vodka and start this day off right. Giggity.

buckeye in athens on 5 September 2009 - 10:35am #

I hope my dorm mates like Carmen Ohio being blasted out of my speakers at 10:30...

BuckeyeSki on 5 September 2009 - 10:38am #

Bradford just admitted that McCoy has a bigger "bass" than him LOL

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:45am #

if you're in the US, espn 360 is carrying it

BuckeyeSki on 5 September 2009 - 10:48am #

Only problem with that is you need to have a certain type of Internet service, specifically the company that provides it, in order to have it streamed. They have a bunch to choose from, but just letting you know.

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:49am #

that would be an insult to put him among the mere mortals of mount rushmore

BuckeyeSki on 5 September 2009 - 10:49am #

Alright, enough of this Internet stuff. Ill check back with you hooligans later, I'm going to the bar to enjoy the best day of the year. May you all enjoy this glorious day, and may Pryor score at least twice.

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:50am #

errrr... i meant blasphemy, you blasphemer!

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:50am #

yeah, that's true, but there's so many that do it now.

http://espn.go.com/broadband/e...

that's the whole list

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:51am #

had a nightmare last night where Navy was up 7-0 in the end of the 3rd. Not sure what happened after that, I don't really remember it ending or waking up, lol

canukeye on 5 September 2009 - 10:54am #

Sorry in Canada,

canukeye on 5 September 2009 - 10:56am #

Hope to see more offense like we saw in the spring.

Hope to see the defensive line be as good as advertised.

Hope today is the first day on our journey to get ESPN and the SEC to shut the heck up!

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 11:06am #

you could try watching it through like sopcast. Give me a minute to find the website i used to use when i was overseas.

otherwise, justin.tv might be carrying it

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 11:10am #

ugh, the site i used to use is down, but you might be able to find it on justin. I also checked some new site called us.zaptiger.com and it looks like they're playing all the games except this one. Looks like you might have to ESPN gamecast it or go to a bar

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 11:12am #

So 'Roy' Small is sick and not playing today.....

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 11:16am #

Guess who got the n00b seat in the press box?!

Very bright up here -- gorgeous day. The digital ribbons are tastefully done as is the new scoreboard in the north end of the stadium.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 11:19am #

Buckeyes are taking the field to some AC~DC. I dig it.

ESPN on 5 September 2009 - 11:33am #

slurp slurp eww yeah Tim Tebow.

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 11:39am #

Ya tebow is a douche bag. "30 mins for the rest of your lives"? wasn't that in a movie? what a corny doucher.

RBuck on 5 September 2009 - 11:46am #

Block O's flying. Beer's cold. Scrimmage t-shirt on. Woody hat on.

OSU 38-14

Middies get 2 early scores.

Lic runs for 1 TD and passes for another..
Boom scores...
D scores 2; 1 fumble return and one late pick.

Navy 156 rushing.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:02pm #

Navy wins the toss -- Buckeyes to receive, defending the north goal.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:04pm #

Love that return!

Chad on 5 September 2009 - 12:07pm #

Miller got beat already

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:09pm #

Dane!

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:09pm #

Yep. And USC might have better DEs than Navy. I think.

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 12:10pm #

TP TD count: 1

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 12:11pm #

I'm having an adrenaline crash right now. Wow, that was AWESOME!!!

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:11pm #

And who had money on Navy throwing the ball on first down?

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:12pm #

And second down.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:18pm #

Need to get down and distance advantage on this offense, b/c it's pretty damn hard to stop in short yardage situations.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:20pm #

Touchdown, Ricky Dobbs.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:21pm #

15 plays, 80 yards, 6:54 TD drive.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 12:24pm #

Good drive for Navy. Let's see them try to keep that up all day.

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 12:24pm #

We'll make adjustments.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:24pm #

Navy squibs their 2nd kickoff. Do not want any of that Flash/Saine.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:26pm #

well, not a great start for the D, they're doing what pretty much every team does at the beginning against the triple option. we'll see how they do in the next series

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:27pm #

Navy has scored on its first drive in 13 of their last 14 games.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:28pm #

hell yeah boom

Seth on 5 September 2009 - 12:28pm #

Jason's right. Down and distance advantage will be a huge deal. 3rd and Long is our best friend on defense in any game, but especially today.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:29pm #

A pass to the TE. I'm intrigued.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:29pm #

BWWOOOPPP BWOOOOOOOOPP TIGHT END SPOTTING BWOOOOPPPP BWWWOOOOPPP

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:30pm #

i was confused for a second there, i could've sworn that was a pass to an OL

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:31pm #

Love seeing the five wide.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:32pm #

I'm sure Ballard thought the play call was a joke when it came into the huddle.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:32pm #

aw nuts, come on ballard

Seth on 5 September 2009 - 12:35pm #

Two long scoring drives and TP has only run once, right? This is progress a la Troy Smith.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:35pm #

my observation: TEs and RBs are gonna get more looks this year simply due to pryor looking for the slant or quick out route rather than way downfield. would like to see more option here though, maybe Tress is hiding it for USC (yeah right)?

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:35pm #

Agree.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:37pm #

Here comes that option.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:37pm #

Eh.. I mean, another first down pass.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:38pm #

i thought it was a waste with troy and a waste with TP if we slowly start to make his running less of a factor, that'd be terrible. vince young increased his passing yards without decreasing his rushing yards, we need that out of TP

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:38pm #

HEY GUYS ITS BRIAN ROLLE

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:38pm #

Rolle is going to finish with 20 tackles.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:41pm #

Members of the Ohio National Guard are being honored in the south end zone.

Anonymous Internet Person on 5 September 2009 - 12:41pm #

the teams running out together was pretty cool

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:42pm #

excellent second series by the D, stayed with their assignments and didn't overpursue, which is about the worst thing you can do against the triple option

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:42pm #

Navy is going for it on 4th and two.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:44pm #

Pryor finishes the first quarter 5/8 for 79 yards and a TD. 1 rush for 11 yards.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 12:45pm #

Sanzenbacher returning punts? o_O

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:45pm #

Rolle had 6 first quarter tackles. Wow.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:47pm #

And the first punt of the year.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:48pm #

Navy starts their third drive at midfield.

Anonymous Internet Person on 5 September 2009 - 12:49pm #

listening to Spielman is great. He provides good analysis of the formations and reads. Stuff that I like hearing about.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:51pm #

FUMBLE!

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:51pm #

Another pass to Ballard?

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 12:52pm #

Look at that grab by Ballard!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 12:52pm #

wow

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 12:53pm #

Great play by Ballard, but this just better be jitters from the O-line

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:54pm #

Duron looked like pops on his first career catch.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:54pm #

What a beautiful throw and catch from Pryor to Dane.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:55pm #

Early verdict: Pryor can throw.

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 12:56pm #

TP for Heisman!??? Do you belive it now haters?

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 12:57pm #

7 play drive, 56yds - 3:05 ToP. Capped by a 2y TD scamper to the left corner by Pryor. Really, really impressed with the way he's throwing the ball.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 12:59pm #

Pryor's throws look good, not great to me... gotta give credit to the receivers who are going up and getting the ball.

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 1:00pm #

Pryor looks like a whole 'nother player when he drops back. No happy feet, for one. He's forced a couple, but the passes have still been crisp.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:01pm #

Could we have a Bauserman sighting on the next series?

Anonymous Internet Person on 5 September 2009 - 1:02pm #

one more touchdown first

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:03pm #

Nathan Williams sighting.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 1:05pm #

Need to see more of him. He's like a guaranteed TFL.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:06pm #

Or maybe not. :)

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:06pm #

Yeah, ends should be beastly this season.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:09pm #

Nice, tough run out of Saine. Love seeing that after what we saw last season.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:10pm #

Pryor might have just a tad bit more mobility than Bauserman, I'm not sure.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:11pm #

Love seeing those swings to the backs, though.

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 1:11pm #

Gazelles might be slightly faster than Hippos.

Maybe.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:11pm #

Bauserman throws a really nice swing pass, though.

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 1:13pm #

Just checking in, blew my transmission, but picked rhe game in the radio

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:14pm #

loving these passes to the RBs and TEs

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 1:15pm #

Seconded. Killing the Middies.

blazers on 5 September 2009 - 1:17pm #

Does TP's eye black say 'VICK'????

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 1:18pm #

I'm guessing that was just an attempt to break tendencies. Not necessarily a bad thing.

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 1:19pm #

bad call tressel. ten point lead and your pulling tp????

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:20pm #

It's not often that there's a vice admiral sitting ten feet away from you.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:22pm #

given the amount of good pass catching RBs we have, having them catch out of the backfield or on short delayed routes is a great idea and i hope we keep it up

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 1:24pm #

Blazers- Micka Vick to be exact

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 1:25pm #

I hate Mark May, but he's right

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:25pm #

wooooooo amazing half for TP

and ah, there's that ol feeling of the bile rising in my throat. hello mark may.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:26pm #

he's KIND OF right, we have huge o-linemen, i'm not completely surprised that they're having difficulty pass blocking against their teeny dudes. that's not all of the reason why, but i think it's a factor.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 1:26pm #

i agree, they have to figure something out, Miller doesnt look comfortable

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:28pm #

overall a good first half against a tricky opponent, TP looks much improved as a passer, and is sanzo my new favorite WR on the team? COULD BE!

iball on 5 September 2009 - 1:28pm #

Joe is playing to give SC one more thing to think about, good call Senator.

blazers on 5 September 2009 - 1:30pm #

what the hell? whats that all about?

iball on 5 September 2009 - 1:32pm #

4 good 3:30 games, time to break out the second TV

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 1:32pm #

NF clue... Maybe not Mike Maybe a friend named Mika???

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:34pm #

lou holtz talking crazy talk, mark may is apoplectic, bup bup bup is laughin

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 1:35pm #

Quick Notes:

Mark May is still a douche bag:

TP: poised and looking good. Some early game gitters that he worked through.

O-line: STOP STANDING UP!!!!! Get low and drive them off the fricking line. Pass blocking is okay, but it blitz pick up that is giving the line some problems. This is a continuity issue, I would keep the line as a solid unit through out the 3rd qtr. They needs as many reps as they can together.

D – Line: Stop getting into your stances a half yard off the ball and get your hands up on the should pads and head gear to prevent the chop. D-tackles need to slant or pinch more often.

D-Fense: Other than the first series, good job.

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 1:41pm #

Minnie and Iowa need to straighten out

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 1:42pm #

Is Greg Paulus legit or are the Gophers just that bad?

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:42pm #

ron paulus is a beast

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:43pm #

i mean greg

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:44pm #

hmmmmmmmm

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:47pm #

Great defensive start to the 2nd half.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:47pm #

BEAUTIFUL read by the D

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:51pm #

uuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh come on dudes

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:51pm #

False start, delay of game and then holding. Don't see that too often.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:53pm #

woah ho ho, that makes up for a crappy offensive seriesGOD I HATE COUNTRY MUSIC

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 1:54pm #

First half stats

RUSHING
Saine - 5/27
Herron - 7/26
Pyror - 2/13 - 1TD

PASSING
Pryor 10/13/127 - 1TD

RECEIVING
Herron - 4/29
Dane - 2/57 - 1TD
Ballard - 2/35
Saine - 2/21
Carter - 1/13

TACKLES
Rolle - 6
Larimore - 5
Coleman - 4
Chekwa - 3

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 1:55pm #

i've said it before and i'll say it again: i love brian rolle

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:02pm #

Spitler needs to buy some wheels.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:03pm #

I'm right there with you.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:04pm #

alright, now we're just seeing a ton of mental errors, this sucks. come on guys

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 2:05pm #

Yeah, when he got burned by NW receivers last year, I figured - eh, they're WRs - but he just looks slow on the field.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:07pm #

ugh, more overpursuit. just contain, dammit.

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:09pm #

Today's attendance: 105,092 - a new opening day record for Ohio Stadium.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:12pm #

excellent tackle by denlinger, way to break your block

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:12pm #

Wetzel might have a point.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:12pm #

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:14pm #

99-yard TD drive that ate up 8:38. Tastes like ass.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:14pm #

This is the type of shit that makes me extremely nervous about next week.

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 2:14pm #

This is ugly, we are in trouble

Jason on 5 September 2009 - 2:16pm #

Nice mix of no-huddle + option to answer Navy's score.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:16pm #

i don't think we're in trouble now, but next weeeekkk....

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:19pm #

i don't know why we don't just go to this more often. and also i know Tress wanted to get bauserman some reps, but why did he want to do it so damn early in the game? makes no sense when the outcome is still in doubt

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:19pm #

Im telling you, this season could go south real quick, Im questioning pulling Pryor in the 2ndQ. Even though I liked it at first.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:20pm #

The o-line and running game have a long way to go. Where is Berry?

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:21pm #

Taurian!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:22pm #

yikes, settle down dude, it's the 4th quarter of the first game of the season

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:22pm #

Thats how you kick a football baby!

buckeye in athens on 5 September 2009 - 2:23pm #

i seriously hope twash doesn't make that a habit.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:23pm #

you're right, but damn

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:25pm #

you don't pull the starting qb in a 10 point ball game 2nd quarter. Tressel is one of the worst coaches out there bottom line.
He gets the nations top talent and does NOTHING WITH IT! Im sick of watching this team fall on its face every fuckin year.

Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 2:25pm #

The right side of our line can't block for shit, Anderson is being Anderson, and we're settling for field goals.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:27pm #

i understand being worried about USC based on this, but let's keep things in perspective, we're playing against a really weird offense that no one ever sees with personnel geared toward playing bigass big ten dudes, not shifty triple option guys.

we should be doing better in the secondary and our o-line does not look good at all, but let's not freak out here

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:27pm #

Coleman just made the game winning play.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:27pm #

hahahahahah what?!?

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:28pm #

In other news... props to this guy:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img...

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:28pm #

heeeellllloooo STONEBURNER!!!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:29pm #

seriously, what?!?!?

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 2:30pm #

Missed an XP, but I'm not complaining. I think we've got 'er in the bag.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:31pm #

hell yeah, i'll take cage the elephant over country music every time

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:36pm #

excellent sack

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:37pm #

Coleman, MVP

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:39pm #

ah balls, my feed is going haywire here, i missed the coleman INT

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:42pm #

WHAT ASOIRJAOSIN
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tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:43pm #

Ohio State could be up by 30 with any other coaching staff.

Sam on 5 September 2009 - 2:44pm #

that just happened

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:45pm #

Our o-line is a fucking joke, period.

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 2:45pm #

Herron should have bounced the 4&2 outside, defense is getting sloppy.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:45pm #

yikes russel, way to bite on the threat of a run

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:45pm #

Dog shit. I was going to make the trip to the USC game but why should I? This team shows up next week they lose by 28.

buckeyebrowny919 on 5 September 2009 - 2:46pm #

i'm scared for next week

JM on 5 September 2009 - 2:46pm #

USC game's now looking more like another blowout.

RunTellMatt on 5 September 2009 - 2:46pm #

Lots of progress to be excited about, but still the same shit that has plagued us in the past. Penalties, bad play calling, less than stellar execution when it counts (4 &1). C'mon Buckeyes! Get it together!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:48pm #

hahahah pryor is still hilariously amazing

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:50pm #

Unreal.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:50pm #

wow, this does not bode well

DMC on 5 September 2009 - 2:50pm #

!!!!!!!!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:50pm #

uuuhhh i mean...

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 2:52pm #

This team has no killer instinct

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:53pm #

aaaaaaaaaagggggggg

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:55pm #

tressel has no killer instinct. you don't pull the star qb in the 2nd quarter with a 10 point lead.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:55pm #

Wow, how often do you see that?!?!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:55pm #

THANK GOD FOR BRIAN ROLLE

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 2:57pm #

Navy has been running all over us all day and they try to do that just 2 yards from a tie game?

NavyGoat on 5 September 2009 - 2:57pm #

OSU is very very lucky today. And that's enough for now. But Tressel has a heckuva lot of work to do. Something is wrong with this picture.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 2:57pm #

they don't give the heisman to players on teams with a losing record *rimshot*

iball on 5 September 2009 - 2:58pm #

this isnt over

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 2:59pm #

Very very lucky and something is VERY wrong. You are 100% correct.

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 3:00pm #

All the talent in the world and I don't get it at all.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 3:01pm #

Ill tell you whats wrong with this picture, someone painted in a bunch of little fuckin girls instead of an o-line

I'll take Navy's offense giving us trouble, but there is no way their d-line should have won the battle today, but they did
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buckeye in athens on 5 September 2009 - 3:02pm #

I am scared as hell for next week.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 3:03pm #

I can hear it now

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:03pm #

eeeuuugggghhhhhh that was about the ugliest win possible

I Love on 5 September 2009 - 3:04pm #

Bewbs

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:04pm #

there is no question its coaching. you don't coach scared and that is how tressel coaches. No passes longer than 20 yards? Pull your starter with a 10 pt lead can you imagine any top five team doing this.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:05pm #

Sooo time to panic about next week, yes?

NavyGoat on 5 September 2009 - 3:07pm #

I realize that Justin Boren was largely trained at another school. But apart from one or two pretty good downfield blocks, that kid looked like a piece of something or other. For the most part, Boren just schlunked around and avoided contact whenever possible. It wasn't hot weather, either. Oh well, good luck.

Taurian Washington on 5 September 2009 - 3:08pm #

Hey All,
Sorry I played like shit today and couldn't catch anything that came my way. You see....the thing is, is that I have really bad fall allergies that cause me to play like shit in the fall. Anyother time of year I am golden.

Ciao,
T Wash

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:09pm #

1. if the starting line isn't going to block replace them the 2nd team can't be any worse.
2. Let us hope we didn't get ready for navy this week and it was all USC in the week leading up to this game.
3. tressel is highly over-rated!!!! i've never like the guy honestly. 77 players drafted since 2000 bottom line is he coaches like a f'n pussy.

zzzzztop on 5 September 2009 - 3:10pm #

Forget Justin, how bout his little bro Zach missing an obvious block on the 4th and 1 conversion that led to the Navy TD. We shouldnt have a freshmen playing one of the most important blocking positions

scott on 5 September 2009 - 3:10pm #

Tressel is Gerry Faust 2.0. Sorry, but the guy is a bad offensive coach. He's content to let the defense stay on the field most of the game. The 0-line looks big & slow. Again. For whatever reason, OSU does not seem to get the most out of their talent, and that does not bode well for next week. I thought Terrelle looked pretty good though, all things considered.

the bench on 5 September 2009 - 3:11pm #

Hey T Wash im here for you. Tell the entire O-line I'd love to see them too!

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:12pm #

And today is exactly why you don't play on Saturdays.

BuckeyeJOE on 5 September 2009 - 3:12pm #

1. Our run game sucked. Boom didnt do that much while Saine was alright.

2. Hopefully tress will decide to throw the ball downfield next saturday

3. At least the defense got a good work out before USC. Even, though they are not the same offenses, in game experience is still key

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 3:13pm #

Navy Goat, good luck to you guys tge rest of the way. Ricky Dobbs is a beast.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:13pm #

WE HAD A TRUE FRESHMAN CENTER LAST YEAR RRRRAAAAOSIDOAISDOIAS

you know what, i think i'm done until next week. this was a terrible game, but how in the hell do you call Tressel a terrible coach and compare him to gerry fucking faust?!? are we just going to sit here after one bad WIN and start completely ignoring the last 8 years of incredible OSU football under this guy?!? good Lord, i'm the first person to admit that Tressel has some serious flaws as a coach but i cannot believe the stupidity here

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 3:14pm #

I know we are young but the play calling was HORRIBLE!

We can't run up the middle.

If Anderson russell steps on the field again it will be on special teams.

Anderson Russell on 5 September 2009 - 3:15pm #

Don't forget about me! I did my part to give Navy 2 TDs... 2 TDs!!! Navy had 6 total all of last year. :)

Oh, and don't forget about my choke job against Texas..

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:16pm #

also lol at all the crap i got during b-ball for suggesting matta wasn't an amazing coach, whereas now a guy who has won a national title and a bajillion big ten championships is being compared to gerry faust and is being called terrible and people are buying into this.

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 3:17pm #

To all:
Simple the O-line has to play as a team. Mark May was running his mouth saying Navy was getting pressure w/o the blitz, bullshit. The replay he was talking about had #51 making the play. The last I checked he was playing linebacker. But to his point, it is about blitz pick up and play calling. Navy commited 9 on the 3&2 and 4&2. On the 4&2, Herron should have bounced it outside and he would have had seven. We have to break our tendency in be VERY Predictable in short yardage situations. One naked boot leg is not going to sell anyone on the idea on not blitzing the one and two gaps.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:19pm #

SECONDLY, i freaking predicted this exact same thing would happen months ago. i simply do not understand college football fans' ability to immediately turn on a coach after one bad game, despite a proven track record of success.

will we lose against USC? i don't know. probably, at this point. but calling for Tressel's head is ludicrous and is pretty much a really good way to show other fans that you're insufferable

tampa buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:20pm #

call it like I see it. tressel is over-rated my man. He does this every year doesn't he? Even the year we won it all. The only year we didn't have these problems was when we had Troy and 4 NFL players catching the ball for him.
I repeat you do not put in the 2nd qb with a 10 point lead in the 2nd quarter. Pryor had it going offensively and you put in a guy with a completely different skill set?!!!

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 3:21pm #

If you aint first your last!

Ian on 5 September 2009 - 3:26pm #

the biggest thing for me was on the long navy pass play, russell was right there and he ran away from him..let me repeat that. HE RAN AWAY FROM HIM. It looked like he was trying to show speed to some scouts or something.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 3:27pm #

1. Im not reading too much into this one, gimmick offense, USC next week, first game of year,etc., etc.,

2. I am not sold on Boom, he is average and has a long way to go.

3. Not sure who is higher on the DC, but Carter should play more than T Wash.

4. Why does ESPN insist on piling on us? The ticker says" OSU avoids being upset by Navy", they were going for two to tie with 2:30 left, not trying to win.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:28pm #

i'm not saying that wasn't dumb, i'm saying you have absolutely no perspective on what constitutes a good and a bad football coach. if winning over 80% of the time isn't good enough for you, you need to pull your head out of your ass.

warts and all, Tressel is still one of the top 5 coaches in the country and you are insane if you think a significant amount of coaches would do a better job

i'm done with this conversation though. it happens literally every year when OSU fans get a boner after seeing florida beat up on georgia southern by 60 and then we can't do the same to akron or whatever, but we still end up winning 10 or 11 games in the season.

i don't know what's going to happen next week or the next, but maybe we should wait three or four weeks before busting out the pitchforks

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 3:28pm #

bup bup bup

I am a homer, I like our chances even better after today's, all of the fair weather fans need to chill. There was a lot of good and there was sloppiness due to players thinking the game was over ealy in the fourth qtr. Do we have issue with the line, yes unfortunatley, and a lot of it has to deal with technique. They are not firing out fast enough, and not getting low enough to drive people off the line. We needed our first string staying in the whole game. Next weeks score, OSU 24 and USC 13.

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:31pm #

i'm not even that optimistic, i think we're most likely going to lose to USC. i'm just not dumb enough to call for the head of one of the most successful OSU coaches ever after one bad game by a rebuilding team

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 3:32pm #

iball,

T-wash two drops in half-hearted attempts, critical situations.

D. Carter, several excellent catches.

D. Carter wins.

The Ghost in the dog house ? No show today!

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 3:36pm #

small is sick, which is why he didn't play

psumrw92 on 5 September 2009 - 3:39pm #

iBall
1) agree that the gimmick offense is hard to predict (tough to prepare for)
2)Boom IS average at best(couldn't carry Wells jock)
3)Carter CAN play
4) The mere fact that they were going for the tie with 2:30 should answer your own question. This really should not have been close

chaoscrusader on 5 September 2009 - 3:42pm #

bup bup bup

It is in all in the play calling. It was better in the first half. the second half fell into a predictable pattern, especially in key situation. Thre is ONLY wo knocks I have on Tressel, OSU HAS to be more dynamic on offense, especially when you are trying to plug and play different line men into different positions. Second, he really needs to get some fresh blood in some key coaching positions. I have a good feeling about next week. This was not a laugher, which was good and there was some very good things we did against a very fundametally sound team. We unfortunately made some bad plays where people were out of position or just did not make the play. The Navy 85 yard TD, Russell was expecting help from the inside, the free safety jumped the under route. there was either a pick or broken coverage underneath that caused the FS to commit.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 3:50pm #

So many games on right now... I need about 4 more TVs...

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 3:56pm #

Well to put my .02 in....

I don't like to say we looked forward, but I am thinking we have been prepping for SC this week, about 70/30. Although I disagree with a good amount of the calls--including pulling Pryor--I am not sure some of this was not deliberate. No way anyone thought Navy was going to pull that 14 points out of their tighty-whiteys. I think the game was called this way deliberately, with just a hint of what is to come (reverse on opening kickoff, anyone?). I realize I am being cautiously optomistic, but for God's Sake, this HAS to be some trickery on the part of the coaching staff--only been waiting for it since LSU (remember how we all thought we would see some 2 QB looks).

If there was ever time to open it up and shock the nation, this is it JT. Show us '02 was not a fluke.

In Tressel I trust...for now.

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 4:04pm #

22 first or second year players on the two deep roster - we are young!

LIC is a beast!

Ken on 5 September 2009 - 4:08pm #

Yes, yes, I know. That's a very valid point. However, I needed to get the last round or so in before the snow starts to fly up here in Buffalo.

Buckeye.de on 5 September 2009 - 4:09pm #

If you are overseas you can get the game on ESPN360Europe...

Ken on 5 September 2009 - 4:10pm #

Actually, iball, I'll be hitting the cabernet any minute now. 'Bucks up by 40'? Glad you were able to save your voice for next week.

Maine's Buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 4:11pm #

This was a close ass game, but Navy is not a bad team. We don't play that offense again this season...we just need to come out next week and F sh*t up...if the same thing happens next week the yes, we will be in trouble, other than that don't read into too much...first post one 11dub, been readin for awhile tho..,u guys are the sh*t

Ken on 5 September 2009 - 4:12pm #

Josh_alum. no question it was piss-poor planning on my part; my bad. I did try your suggestion years ago with first wife... ;)

iball on 5 September 2009 - 4:13pm #

denard robinson is fast

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 4:15pm #

san jose 3 - usc 0

Ian on 5 September 2009 - 4:24pm #

upset..mabye? kind of want the whole #6 vs. #4

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 4:24pm #

Russell is awful. Never the same after the knee injury.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 4:26pm #

hey the offense was starting to roll and dip shit pulls the starter with a 10 point lead. Its like he had money on Navy. Can't Coach with him! Can't Win with him! Won't do it.

Sad Buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 4:29pm #

I personally was not pleased about today. My points:

1. Anderson Russell should not be starting. He was burned on both TD's. He needs to get his head around on the first and the second one, he was just plain ran by. No double move, nothing fancy, just plain beat. Hines make plays when he on the field, and he needs to be starting. Let Russell play on ST.

2. The O-Line should have been dominating. I don't buy any excuses anymore. When our guards pull, they are late to the hole. Very rarely do our pulling Lineman ever make contact with a defender. Our longest run out of the I formation was 6 yards. Shameful. Our inability to run the ball in short yardage situations has made me very nervous. Our only running game came outta Shotgun and option.

3. Washington should be ashamed. Two drops and the one he didn't even seem like he was trying. A lack of ability is understandable, but a lack of effort is inexcusable.

4. I don't know if Pryor wasn't throwing deep by design, but USC has no reason to play Taylor Mays further than 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. Running the ball isn't going to be any easier. Have to strecth the field with some deep passes.

5. Ballard is a NFL TE. Need to throw to him as much as possible.

6. Where was Berry? what has happened to Saine? He tip-toes into holes. None of RB's seem to run very hard. That could be because there weren't any holes.

7. I really hope that I am wrong, but I think we are going to get blasted by USC.

buckeyebrowny919 on 5 September 2009 - 4:33pm #

EXACT same talk last year

GoBucks on 5 September 2009 - 4:39pm #

we fell apart when we had the ball at the navy 42 and then all the penalties.

usc 7 - san jose 3 middle of second

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 4:42pm #

Saine looked good he ran hard. Broke a face mask tackle on one play didn't get that call of course.
The game should have been over but Coach T did Navy a huge favor by throwing in the 2nd string QB. Bad move.

Grady Jacksons Belly on 5 September 2009 - 4:47pm #

Agree on the Bauserman move. TP seemed like he was starting to really get things going. To take him out there was questionable at best.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 4:53pm #

Pretty much my point.

...hoping for a different outcome.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 4:56pm #

Make that 21-3.

....ugh.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 5:02pm #

...and while I am at it...

Does ESecPN really need to run the ticker "tOSU avoids upset by Navy"

They never led.
They only had a chance to tie at the end--NOT win.

Frustrating.

RBuck on 5 September 2009 - 5:06pm #

Earl was all over the OL on WTVN. Said it was pitiful that we couldn't get 2 yds when we needed. Said the D was OK against the BS O of Navy except for a few breakdowns; but the the O sucked against their conventional D. First time I agreed with the old man in a while.

RBuck on 5 September 2009 - 5:09pm #

Bauserman wins the poll question with one sack.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 5:27pm #

Spitler was awful he needs to be in the middle. If the navy backs can get the edge on him USC won't have a problem. Put the young speed out there. Sabino, Rolle, Homan would be nice. Russell was awful didn't improve from last year at all.

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 5:31pm #

agreed with the Spitler comment, he shouldn't be out there at all imo. Definitely too slow to be OLB.

Russell may have gotten beat a couple times, but he also had a couple of big plays including pinning Navy at their own 1

Olentangy on 5 September 2009 - 5:32pm #

ESPN has a financial interest in the Big 10 being seen as weak. Pretty shameful what they are doing. I have lost a lot of respect for them today, They are the sports version of Fox News at this point.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 5:34pm #

You trust Tressel. I will trust my own eyes. Year after year I watch him coach scared. He isn't a good coach open your eyes. Best talent in the nation come to Ohio State year in and year out. You don't handcuff your team by throwing in the 2nd string qb. It isn't fair to the team and it isn't fair to the fans of Ohio State. We are a laughing stock today.
Where was the blitz? All day we don't run blitz? A safety blitz would have shut down anything up the middle.
Bottom line is the team wasn't ready to play and that is the coaching staffs job.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 5:37pm #

should be Ohio State's head coach. Tressel is wearing out his welcome.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 5:51pm #

That was pitiful, and why did he run behind the two weakest blockers on the line? Boom is frustrating sometimes.

Andy Miller looked bad also, way to many times were Navy's ends getting the edge on him.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 6:16pm #

Cincy 02' NW 03' Ohio U 08' Florida 06' Penn St 08' I could go on and on but bottom line is Ohio State has put more players in the NFL since 2000 as any team in college football. We don't play to just get wins we play to improve every game and when you take out your 1st string qb with a 10 point lead shows your a bad coach.
When you run it up the gut with a small running back time and time again your a bad coach.
When you have spitler move to Olb and rolle move to the middle your a bad coach.
When you don't throw the ball down field one time the whole game your a bad coach.
When you start seniors over a more talented fr. or soph. your a bad coach.
I'm over this guy. We will not win another championship with this coaching style.

OSU on 5 September 2009 - 6:19pm #

Jim tressell didn't have pryor go deep or anything because he didn't want to show USC anything to look for in next weeks game

Buckeye in SC on 5 September 2009 - 6:24pm #

What percentage of this piss poor game can be attributed to the following:

1.) Navy is actually pretty good. 8+ wins the last 6 seasons.
2.) OSU is actually pretty mediocre this year.
3.) Hiding a lot of the offensive schemes for next week's game.
4.) First game jitters.

Personnally...

25%, 40%, 15%, 20% respectively.

Palm Beach Buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 6:27pm #

..bottom line, would everyone rather win by 1 point or look good in a loss?? It frustrates me also, but Tress is an 80+% winner..... a win is a win...... period.

Buckeye in SC on 5 September 2009 - 6:34pm #

And how about Iowa needing two blocked field goals to beat UNI?!?!?!

Minnesota needing OT to beat 'Cuse?!?!?!

Illinois getting blasted by Mizzou?!?!?!

Ohio State having to play all four quarters against Navy?!?!?!

The Big Ten haters will be out in force this week.

Be prepared.

jdm on 5 September 2009 - 6:36pm #

the game ball should go to kurt coleman and a special recognition should go to brian rolle (good game, but dobbs freaked and threw that ball right to him on the 2 pt. conversion). also navy took some heat for that play call..which leaves me with a what if thought...although i am 'a win is a win' person'. pryor looked okay and duron carter/dane sanzenbacher looked pretty good as well. really disappointed in the running game, and even though the game was in hand when the score was 29-14....i thought tressel should have kicked a field on the 4 and 2 (i don't wanna be that monday morning qb guy, but i wanted a 3 posession game). the worst part of the team is the secondary...good god, this has been a nightmare since the florida game....the team has been scared stupid ever since....and the offensive line is porous.

sorry to write so much and complain so much...because this was a fun game to watch and navy did their job by giving osu a real game. next week should be pretty fun (although im thinking an upset is unlikely).

Kurt on 5 September 2009 - 6:41pm #

My problem with Tressel in this game is that it seemed like he didn't want to win, he just wanted to finish the game with a few more points than Navy.

It's become clear to me why we manage to win 10 games a year beating the crap teams: ultimately the crap teams beat themselves and we win. Good teams don't beat themselves, therefore we lose.

I can't think of the last time I saw an Ohio State team go for the kill in a game. USC, Florida, LSU, Texas etc, all get you down, then stomp on you regardless of who you are.

Grady Jacksons Belly on 5 September 2009 - 6:43pm #

Anderson didn't just get beat. He got beat twice. By Navy WR's. The kid just can't stick with anyone in coverage.

Let him be a gunner on ST, but Hines should be getting his minutes on D.

We really miss Moeller more than I thought. And no way should Brain Rolle be moved from MLB.

flipbuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 6:48pm #

That's Tresselball for you.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 6:50pm #

Kurt, you are right on the money. I hate to say it because I like Tressel so much, but his philosophy is becoming very old school in this video game offensive era. People respect offense and points on the board...not your ability to just barely win....leaving the opponents dignity in tact.

What is missing from Tressel, Bollman and Heacock is a intense desire to rip the heart out of our opponent. I think that we all know that Pete Carrol, Urban Meyer, and Mack Brown don't have such a problem

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 6:50pm #

Even when we beat Texas on the road a few years ago Tressel took his foot off the gas. He likes close ball games. This is the same bs coaching we saw vs OHIO U last year. Come on people wake up! Tressel and his staff need some new ideas or they must go.
I'm all for playing smart football but its like we play not to lose.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 6:52pm #

I don't think I can say this enough but YOU DON'T PULL THE STAR QB WITH A 10 POINT LEAD IN THE 2ND QUARTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buckeye in SC on 5 September 2009 - 6:55pm #

I would add Bob Stoops to that list.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 6:58pm #

And while I'm at it...if Heacock and Bollman are so great at what they do then how come no other programs have coming knocking on the OSU doors for their services. I mean we all know that no big time program would want either of them, but why hasn't a smaller school sought either of them out?

If Woody could update his quote he would change it from "You win with people" to "You win with the right people who are getting the job done on a daily basis". Bollman hasn't gotten the job done since he got here...(thank you Maurice Clarett for your on the field performances and making that years o-line look good) and Heacock has about enough intensity to coach the girls tennis team.

I'd hate to see Tressel remembered for being too loyal. At some point you have to confront the brutal facts and the fact is that Bollman and Heacock need to go and go now!

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 7:00pm #

AMEN

Kurt on 5 September 2009 - 7:02pm #

While I'm too young to know, I can't imagine that Woody or even Coach Bruce had a problem with this either... I do remember that Cooper would beat the shit out of inferior opponents.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 7:03pm #

On a positive note...how great was it to see Ballard catch a few and Stoneburner. Hopefully that will become a steady diet.

Kurt on 5 September 2009 - 7:08pm #

Great stuff. Tressel treats promoting Fickell to DC in the same manner as playing inferior seniors over talented underclassmen...it's loyalty gone too far.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 7:11pm #

For me the game is won in the trenches and the O-Line still isn't getting it done in the trenches, however I do believe that they have very talented players on the O-line just piss poor coaching. As the O-Line goes so go the buckeyes.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 7:18pm #

I hate to toss this possibility into the mix but what does the Big Ten have against hiring coordinators from either the SEC or Pac 10? It's no secret that those conferences are chalk full of coaches from Ohio.

A few years ago Norm Chow was jobless...perhaps one of the greatest offensive minds of this era. Would he have taken the O-coordinator job at OSU? Who knows, but maybe he would have if offered.

Surely there has to be a SEC D-coordinator who would love to bring their style of defense to the Big Ten.

I sure miss Mark Dantanio's presence on the d-side of the ball

Bucksfan on 5 September 2009 - 7:26pm #

We suck. The game next week might as well be a wash at this point. They had an opportunity to go out there and show the world their immense talent, and they stood there looking like a de-pantsed Sunday school kid. This was an embarrassment not just for the defense, but for the offensive line - who had everything to prove and more to lose.

I am really disappointed in this performance. The O-line was horrendous against a mediocre defense. Worse than we could have ever hoped for, honestly. Awful, awful, awful performance. They gave Pryor absolutely no time to throw the ball. They were piss-poor in run blocking. Even though the 4th-and-2 was a questionable time to go for it, and the power-I was the worst play they could have called for that situation, they FAILED EPICALLY!!!

Buckeye players, if you read this thread, then fucking get it together! This was disgusting, and you have the Buckeye nation in panic mode. Way to suck. We're calling for Tressel's job if you don't show up against USC.

Rob on 5 September 2009 - 7:36pm #

Was at the game. The moment Bauserman came in it was clear Tressel was playing not to lose. Absolutely no killer instinct!

JT on 5 September 2009 - 7:46pm #

Well you know, we knew that Navy was a good good team coming in and they showed it today. They kept coming at us like we knew they would and now we've got to go to work and prepare for a good good USC team next week and so forth.

BuckeyeJOE on 5 September 2009 - 7:48pm #

Does anyone notice we always play to the level of our competition? When we play crappy teams (See Ohio U) we play crappy. When we play mediocre teams (see navy) we play all right. When we play good teams (see texas) we play well.

Reality on 5 September 2009 - 7:49pm #

Didn't play great against great teams (USC, Penn State) last year.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 7:49pm #

The question is how long does tressel get a pass for the national title? He has lost a few coaches since then. Mark Dantonio would be a good choice or Chris Spielman. Something has to change.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 7:53pm #

Spot on! that killed the offense. If we score there its a rout. I don't think this entire coaching staff understands. No direction at all. No emotion at all. Just the same thing over and over for the last three seasons.
Lots of talent, NO DIRECTION!

T.J. on 5 September 2009 - 7:54pm #

Calling for Tressel's job? Seriously? The guy got the backup qb in just in case the RUNNING qb took a big hit. Tressel has bronzed his own boots. This team is young. Let them be and earn their gold pants. They do play USC in the SECOND game of the year. Cool it, man.

Brian on 5 September 2009 - 8:08pm #

I think everyone should chill. I dont' think this was the same as Ohio U last year. First, I honestly felt like they were looking great unitl the substitution for Bauserman. Pryor and the offense were really clicking, and I don't know why they subbed him so early. I'm upset that there was a bit of arrogance in the play calling. Like oh yeah 4-2 why not. Of course Who would've expected an 85 yard passing play. I feel like the game that most of the summer was focused on preparing for is next weeks game, and I feel good about this team putting up a great effort. I really am excited about Pryor, and I know he had the interception and a couple of passes that weren't great. But man he made some good throws and if you can take away Washington's 2 drops, he did a good job overall. Maybe the one wasn't even a drop, he just whiffed trying to catch it. I think everyone just needs to chill.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 8:10pm #

Although it drives me nuts to be compared to the Buffalo Bills (of which I am a fan btw), but I think JT may take a lesson. Coach Jauron FIRED the offensive coordinator yesterday. He did not like what he was seeing and that was that. And this is a man who had history with him (back in Chi-town).

There is loyalty and then there is stupidity. I am TIRED of defending our program while simultanously sqandering talent. I have been amazed we are still able to pull recruits.

Am I pushing the panic button, maybe. I did not like what I saw today. It seems like the more I go back and watch, the more I am scratching my head. O-line looks confused and winded. D-line had flashes of promise, but no consistancy. How can TP still be throwing off his back foot? Where is this beast Boren everyone keeps talking about, 'cause I think he forgot to show up today. But worse than all those things is the coaching. Runs up the middle? Pryor out in the 2nd? No pass plays downfield? Vanilla, with a side of vanilla, topped off with vanilla.

Coaches: Thanks to you, we have something to prove AGAIN. Now we have the added bonus of being the litmus test for the entire B10 and you are failing us all!!! If you bring the same boring, banal playcalling next week and dont address some obvious personnel issues, I say we fire all your asses. You are taking the Buckeye Faithful and turning us into the Buckeye Forlorn AND WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

Sorry for the rant guys, but re-watching this game, without the excitement of being live, is pissing me off.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 8:12pm #

Did I mention that I hope I am all kinds of wrong and eat my words with a side of humble pie...

..sigh.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 8:16pm #

Do you really think this game ALONE has some of us questioning the Senator? I love the guy, but I love this program a helluva lot more. Its not about this singular game. If you dont have any questions about the coaching staff and the direction of this program then you have not been paying attention the last four years.

Wil on 5 September 2009 - 8:20pm #

Mike Vick?

Please tell me Pryor didn't really have those on.....

Ian on 5 September 2009 - 8:39pm #

they say its because hes a christain. im a huge christain, but cmon.

Steve on 5 September 2009 - 8:42pm #

It's MARK MAY'S job to think of logical (and sometimes absurd) reasons why Ohio States will lose against USC. It's OUR job to believe we'll win anyway!

All I hear is everyone's two cent opinion about why we're not good enough to beat the next team we play. If you want to use you're reasoning skills and football expertise, why not bring up a positive reason why you think we'll win next week (There are a few). If you're still convinced that Tress needs to go and that we have no chance to beat USC, then go camping next Saturday and forget about watching the game.

If we win, Tressel will be a genius. If we loose, run the table after that and win the Rose Bowl, Tressel will be a genius. If the season as a whole is a disappointment we can all get mad, but let's at least assume one of the first two possibilities will happen- we are Ohio State fans right?

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 9:02pm #

You are 100% right about one thing:

We are tOSU fans.

That does not mean we have to be Tressel/Bollman/Heacock fans.

If you are not frustrated you are not paying attention.

Simple as that.

John Harold Cooper on 5 September 2009 - 9:08pm #

You know who used to blow out shitty teams? Me.

Ricky Bobby on 5 September 2009 - 9:14pm #

ditto

BuckeyeChief on 5 September 2009 - 9:17pm #

JHC is right LOL

El Caballo de Sangre on 5 September 2009 - 9:40pm #

You know who's NOT a shitty team? Navy.

You know who made this game a nail-biter? Anderson Russell.

Sean on 5 September 2009 - 9:42pm #

Apparently by the mediocre NASCAR based fanboy name I'm guessing you wish you were an SEC fan. How many people thought we'd win the MNC in 2003 (Oh, that was Cincinatti 02 that you mentioned). You don't throw the ball down field when you don't want to show things. Finally, Navy and USC are nothing alike, I guarantee OSU has been preparing for USC with Navy this week. After today I'm not worried about Barkley busting a 20 yd TD up the gut, the Offense played fine. THe D struggled with the Option which helps equalize lesser talent. Shut up, or should we hire you to coach tOSU since you obviously have won so many national championships and are superior to JT.

Sean on 5 September 2009 - 9:44pm #

Yup severe flu, smart not to play... especially when he wasn't needed to win this one.

Sean on 5 September 2009 - 9:46pm #

You know who was 3-8 in bowls and 2-10-1 against scUM?

Sean on 5 September 2009 - 9:47pm #

Sorry just got the joke, so tired of people bitching after one game, sense of humor wearing thin.

Ruckus on 5 September 2009 - 9:48pm #

Maybe they will make the extra point but miss the touchdown.

Sean on 5 September 2009 - 9:51pm #

If your tired of being a Buckeye fan and all that goes with it, Go cheer on USC, Michigan, or Florida and enjoy losing to teams you shouldn't. The nation hates us, trust me, you don't go to bars and hear anyone root for you to succeed. But it's about being a fan. You don't have to drink the Buckeye Kool-aid, but you don't have to drink the national medias either.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 9:51pm #

I don't think Tress needs to go, but you can't deny the clock is definitely ticking on him. Just reading some of these comments is a tell-tale sign. He really needs to come up big this Saturday, or the seat will get real hot, and there's nothing any level headed Buckeye fan can do about it.

Something is wrong with this program. I think the answer is right in front of our faces, but we are too close to see it. Our recruitin is on par with everyone in the country, but we aren't getting the most out of it. BOLLMAN MUST GO!

The time to make this change is long past due, the o-line cost us Florida, LSU, and would of looked much worse vs. Texas if not for TP's legs.

WE GOT OUR ASSES HANDED TO US BY A BUNCH OF GUYS 50 LBS. LIGHTER AND 5 INCHES SHORTER BECAUSE THEY CAME PLAY AND WE DIDN'T.

iball on 5 September 2009 - 9:58pm #

"Maybe ... we thought we had the game over and we just kind of chilled a little bit," quarterback Terrelle Pryor said

This is reason number one for today's outcome.

On the flip side, I have to hope today was a valuble lesson for a group of young, talented kids. Hopefully it translates to a big performance Satrurday night.

Palm Beach Buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 9:58pm #

amen.... c'mon people... this man has won around 80%... you are bitching cuz your ice cream is too cold. Winning by 1 is the same as winning by 40---

its frustrating to have Florida on the highlight reel and not OSU, but would you rather lose to an inferior team every year (USC, Georgia) or beat teams you are supposed to beat and take your chances with teams ranked higher.... really, Tressel is paid to win and he has... get a grip. You dont fire a coach who wins when he is supposed to-- change the staff a bit, but you guys are going way overboard.

Palm Beach Buckeye on 5 September 2009 - 10:01pm #

thank you

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 10:13pm #

I said what i did because I AM a fan. A fan of this school. A fan of this tradition. A fan of something that started well before 2002.

What I am tired of, is defending something that I can barely endorse--THE COACHING--NOT THE TEAM. IF you think this team is playing to its potential and these coaches are getting the most out of the talent they have, you are drinking way more than Kool-Aid.

What a lame thing to say, just because I am questioning the direction of the program, to go cheer for someone else.

That has never crossed my mind, funny it crosses yours.

PG on 5 September 2009 - 10:14pm #

You'd think that after getting embarrassed by a few top tier teams the last couple of years and getting clowned on by the media, that we would play with a huge chip on our shoulders. Instead, it continues to look like we lack any kind of fire and intensity. We show glimpses of it every now and then from game to game, but it's up and down just like the other aspects of our team (o-line, defense, playcalling, coaching).

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 10:15pm #

I seem to recall a game he made a wall puncher too....

Bucksfan on 5 September 2009 - 10:15pm #

Tressel won't fire Bollman...therefore, Tressel needs to be fired. If we don't beat USC, it will be 4 years before we beat a top-5 team...unheard of, and unacceptable.

They are doing things wrongly in Columbus. If they were doing them right, we would be winning by a shitload of points against a service academy. Putting Bauserman in while the score was 17-7 was a coaching blunder, especially if Pryor is looking to get all the snaps next Saturday. 4th-and-2 in the Power-I is a coaching blunder...period...there is no sugar coating that. You have the most powerful weapon imaginable in Terrelle Pryor and you line up as if you have Beanie Wells back there...piss poor!!!! EPIC RUN FAIL!

The Defense! Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing?! This was a chance to show that they can stop a potent rushing attack. EPIC RUN-DEFENSE FAIL!!! This provided a perfect tune-up for the USC game, and they did not rise to the occasion.

Yes, I am panicking , and you should, too. This is not why we follow this team. We expect big things from big players, and they are letting guys blow by them on the line of scrimmage. Pathetic, and there's no room for that in Columbus, Ohio. Maybe Norman, Oklahoma, but not in the Horseshoe.

Nik on 5 September 2009 - 10:27pm #

http://collegefootball.rivals....

how can they bash the big ten today when we've gone 9-1 so far with wiscy left to play...

god i hate the media!

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 10:36pm #

...so how does this gravatar thingy work....

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 10:36pm #

oh, like that.....

:)

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 5 September 2009 - 10:40pm #

So Oklahoma upset....
yeah, I know Bradford was hurt

Looks like the Hokies may let Alabama get away with it--wait just fumbled!!!!

Whatever will ESecPN do if TWO SEC teams lose today to other teams not in the SEC.

They may have to shut down for a period of mourning.

J Mo on 5 September 2009 - 10:53pm #

I've said it in two forums and I want to say it on probably the most popular Buckeyes blog...

Bring back the White Stripes - Seven Nation Army during Pettrey's kick offs.

11W - put that in an update. I hear there's a new marketing guy in charge of the music at Ohio Stadium - he might read it.

scott on 5 September 2009 - 11:08pm #

not buying this at all. as if usc doesn't think that osu can go long or run and end-around. usc doesn't "hide" things. they have open practices and they don't seem to care if anyone sees what they do. if you execute well, it doesn't matter that the other team knows what you might try. this is a typical tressel offense - simply not very good. the 0-line was big & slow with no surge. perhaps they will perform better next week. pryor is a great talent and he may be able to give usc fits. berkley has to be licking his chops after seeing the osu secondary.

southbaybuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 11:08pm #

shut up with that fie tressel BS

southbaybuckeye on 5 September 2009 - 11:08pm #

fire*

bup bup bup on 5 September 2009 - 11:09pm #

this is the only legitimate complaint to ever make about OSU football ever. EVER.

J Mo, you're right, and this is the debate i want to have for the next 7 days instead of anything pertaining to Tressel or USC

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 11:53pm #

I have to agree wtih AngelHeartsBuckeyes; I love the Senator as well, but his loyalty to Bollman and Heacock is his biggest stumbling block.

BollmanBasher on 5 September 2009 - 11:59pm #

I don't think anybody wants to fire Jim Tressel, but I think most of people would agree that Tressel has to be loyal to the program first and to his assistants second. The players have the talent and I'm sure that they work too hard to have second class coaching.

The program deserves better than what Bollman and Heacock are delivering.

I'd be surprised if Bucksfan really wants Tressel fired, but instead wants him to understand that ultimately if things don't change on the o-line and the defensive intensity then it could cost Tressel in the long run.

Ricky Bobby on 6 September 2009 - 12:06am #

you have to understand that alot of these fans think tressel is jesus in a sweater vest and he can do no wrong. I think anyone that has played the game would tell you otherwise.
Bottom line you don't bench the starter with a 10 point lead in the 1st half. You just don't do that. I'm sick of having to be pissed watching this tresselball bullshit. He should change or leave the program to Chris Spielman. He lost the fire. Look at the tape of the title game from 03' that was a coach with fire.

mem on 6 September 2009 - 12:24am #

Dude, Tressel planned to put Bauserman in. This was a part of the game plan, not a random occurrence. I see this repeated by you over and over. Look at what he's said:

“We have plans for Joe Bauserman to get in the third, fourth, fifth series area, which we like to do,” Tressel said.

See the O-Zone article that quotes Tressel.

You may disagree with the plan, but that's the plan he had, an dthat's probably what he told Joe, and probably the way that he envisioned doing it. Yeesh. If you coached next week, I'm pretty sure you'd find it harder than you seem to right now.

Poe McKnoe on 6 September 2009 - 12:50am #

OOO RLY?

Poe McKnoe on 6 September 2009 - 12:52am #

Me calling for Tressel's job doesn't mean anything. Sometimes Buckeye football is too boring to watch...or exciting in a bad way.

Poe McKnoe on 6 September 2009 - 12:53am #

USC 30 OSU 17

Poe McKnoe on 6 September 2009 - 12:54am #

Because Big Ten football is absolutely awful. That's how.

Poe McKnoe on 6 September 2009 - 1:05am #

Agreed.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 6 September 2009 - 1:12am #

Again, NOT calling for Tressel's job....yet.

By yet I mean, if he is not willing to put the team before his friendships, then I dont care what his winning percentage has been, he has to go.

He has to see the O-line is not progressing--not after one season. Or two. Or Three. He has to look at the Hawk/Carpenter defense and wonder where that intensity has gone. Can he not see these things so blantantly obvious to even the most casual fan?

So, we should have the policy that he will ignore that, so we will ignore that he is ignoring it? That is just ignore-ant.

Leaders lead. He needs to be just that. Make the hard decisions, put on your big-boy pants and realize there is more on the line than being a nice guy.

Are games not won and lost in the trenches? The O-line is the key and you know it. Forget us fans if you will. He owes TP the ability to reach the best of his potential and if we do not do something and do it fast up-front, we may waste the biggest talent of all.

Let me make it clear, I am not calling for JT's job, I am calling for him to do it.

Wil on 6 September 2009 - 1:15am #

I've been paying attention the last 4 years, we've won 10 games each year, beat Michigan, won the Big 10, and played in 4 BCS games (2 title games).......yeah I can see why people would question the Vest.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 6 September 2009 - 1:18am #

Or get someone who will.

Luke on 6 September 2009 - 1:19am #

Fail.

Sam on 6 September 2009 - 1:27am #

Someone's a homer ;)

southbaybuckeye on 6 September 2009 - 2:04am #

i think "bucksfan" should change their name to something a little more appropriate... you can draw your own conclusions about that one.

taking pryor out early was foolish, but let's all remember, navy is a team that went to a bowl game last year and will likely go to one this year too. We're not gonna pile up 50 pts on them like they;re y-town st.

southbaybuckeye on 6 September 2009 - 2:05am #

another reason i stopped reading your blog......

please burn all of your scarlet and gray and start writing for mgoblog.

Ricky Bobby on 6 September 2009 - 2:21am #

If the same team shows up it could be worse. They will have to stop the run. Make some changes for sure and I could see them winning.
1. Slide cam inside to tackle
2. blitz and blitz often
3. Pass on first down
4. Start JB and Adams at the tackle spots
5. Spitler doesn't see the field as an OLB
6. Don't pull Pryor in the 2nd quarter
7. Saine is the #1 back Boom is a good change of pace.
8. Trickeration- we need to pull out all the stops. TP at wideout, Wildcat, Pistol formation?
9. If its not broke don't fix it. Somethings did work well. Like the passing to the tight end, and we did throw to the backs a bit.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 6 September 2009 - 2:32am #

You're talking to me like I am some SEC fan--thats the rhetoric we spit to defend our program. The point is that we HAVE to defend it. You know those wins you are talking about have come against what could be considered inferior talent. Yeah, we got wins in Bowl Games (outside of the NC), Notre Dame and Kansas. Real signature wins there. In the last four years, minus the 06 scUM game, what have we done against the best teams out there? Yeah we can say "We lost to a better team, no shame in that!" but we can only say it for so long and only after we actually win some of the games against the elites. Repeat, we have to win some of those games. This coaching staff is not getting it done. Period. End of story.

Again, hope I am wrong, wrong, wrong. But I just do not see any fire in these guys. Yet another by-product of less than stellar coaching.

Bucksfan on 6 September 2009 - 3:58am #

southbaybuckeye...go read "1968: The Year that Saved Ohio State Football." In it you'll see that every single coach underneath Woody Hayes lived in the fear day in and day out that they'd be fired at a moment's notice. Woody Hayes was burned in effigy so many times BY FANS that it's not even funny. The reason it's not funny is because it's absolutely justified! Living in the pressure that you'll be fired does wonders. And it's our job as fans to make sure the coaches know that there's no job security at Ohio Stadium. It's called the graveyard of coaches for a reason. There's plenty of time to admire you after you're finished coaching.

Look, I really love Tressel. He's an upstanding man of immense character, a man of service to his community, an incredible recruiter, and a Michigan killer. But he's complacent, and it's making its way to the football field. I don't care if Navy went to a bowl game....Michigan State, Minnesota, and Northwestern went to bowl games last year and we slaughtered them. We were on our way to slaughtering Navy today.

Kirk said it best, can Ohio State play with the big boys? Everyone will be watching next week. All I'm saying is that if they go out there and USC makes us look like we might as well have been Indiana, then I have absolutely no qualms about saying it's time for Tressel to take his place on the hot seat of college coaches. We've been MORE THAN PATIENT. Florida happened 3 years ago. LSU was the following year. USC and Penn State was last year. Then there was Texas. Now there's USC again. We're OHIO STATE. We don't like losing, and today didn't show us anything different from the last 3 years.

Wil on 6 September 2009 - 11:55am #

First off it was Kansas State not Kansas. Don't forget We beat a Washington State team who was in the Rose Bowl, a good Texas Team, some good Iowa teams, and a good North Carolina State team in triple overtime; during this coaching staffs tenure.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 6 September 2009 - 12:55pm #

Just because it is the 'plan' prior to the game, does not mean the game does not dictate the need to alter those plans.

I am sure we 'planned' to put some of our non-starters in at the end of the game--you know we were up by a good 20 points or so.

Guess that didnt go according to 'plan' either.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 6 September 2009 - 1:01pm #

Wil

Still not seeing any elites in your list of 'notable' wins (below since I cannot reply to your post for some reason).

That Texas team was without VY (and yes, we should have won the first go around, but I am sure we could argue some facts about that game as well as it relates to coaching). And did Washington win that Rose Bowl? You make my point--again, we are not playing with the elites and it is NOT FOR LACK OF TALENT.

...oh, and I know it was Kansas State, you knew what I meant, but thanks for pointing that out since your point was so devoid of any other relevant information.

:)

Toledo Buckeye on 6 September 2009 - 1:56pm #

Am I a little worried about today's effort? Yes, I am! However, I was in the Navy so I know how tough they can be. You have to remember that these Navy men are the future Naval and Marine Corps officers of tomorrow. I have met many Marines who could kick the S**t out of any of Ohio State's players. We need to toughen up! I think I was the most excited about Ballard today. The man is a great tight end. I even came up with a nickname for Jake Ballard. His new nick name will be:

ODB-(O'le Dirty Ballard)

Start Jermale Hines at Safety and move Russell to the Nickel. Get Nathan Williams on the field more. Start Etienne Sabino instead of Spitler. Those things need to be done in order for us to get more speed on the field!

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