Ken Gordon and Tim May of the Dispatch, who have been all over the Decker/Moeller story, spoke with a few witnesses and additional details are starting to trickle out. Of note: prosecutors are considering bumping the case up to felony battery once additional medical evidence comes in and Decker allegedly approached Moeller's sister at the bar.
Three witnesses in the police report all said Moeller was sucker-punched and Assistant State Attorney Richard Ripplinger believes that to be the case, so dark days could be ahead for Mr. Decker. It is, however, fair to point out that one witness, Gerald Ramsberger of Treasure Island, seemed to contradict the Moeller family's version of events:
"I just looked back and saw two guys screaming at each other, and threats being made up in the face," Ramsberger said. "Then before you know it, (Moeller) is laying on the ground."
Meanwhile, Decker's attorney maintains his client was acting in self-defense and both sides are accusing the other of drinking a bit too much.
Sadly, Buckeye nation took the low road in this whole affair and rose up for a digital lynching of sorts, tracking Decker down on social networks, calling his bosses, lobbing death threats and even going so far as to vandalize the guy's wedding guestbook. Losing Moeller the way the Buckeyes did is horrible, and we hope for a speedy recovery, but the fact that Decker might be facing five years should be satisfaction enough for those angered over this ordeal.
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The fact this happened in Florida should make any Buckeye fan P-Oed.
"He's concerned about this guy's well-being," McQuaid said. "But he does believe it was self-defense. Now remember this guy is a football player with Ohio State. He's a big guy."
hahaha no he isn't you jackass, that's the whole point of tyler moeller being tyler moeller
The problem with internet "reporting" is that it is not reporting at all. Decker is guilty of something, but until we know more details, people should not jump to judgment. I am mad as hell that this happened, and I want justice. But there is a system for that and the police are on it. The Tyler Moeller I see on the field is aggressive as hell. Is that his personality off the filed? I don't know. Is that his personality when he has 6 beers in him? I don't know. Was he drinking at all? I don't know. Damn this hurts. But the reaction of "fans" who call the guy's boss or vandalize his wedding guest book is beyond stupid and internet bloggers should realize they take some responsibility for fanning the flames if someone does something stupid based on rumors being circulated.
i agree with you up to the point you made about bloggers, 11W or OHD certainly didn't call up this guy's place of work or vandalize his wedding guest book. dumbass fans who did dumbass things are wholly to blame for their dumbass behavior.
This is off topic but I just pulled up ESPN and they state that the NCAA will have a ruling on what they are goign to do with Memphis (possibly vacate wins). This is in regards to the Derrick Rose situation. It seems the NCAA is being very proactive against Memphis but twirling their fingers on USC.
sadly? shit, his adress was dispersed here on this site in the comments
its a shame buckeye fans have to be so classless sometimes. and yes, it happens at other schools with other fan bases as well - but since we have a huge number of fans, we also get more douchebags than most. i would like to personally thank the idiots who stepped WAY over the line for giving myself and all other respectable ohio state fans a bad name.
as far as i am concerned, the whole lot of you are no more real buckeye fans than i am shaquille oneal. you may turn in your jersey at the front desk.
you are all completely worthless human beings.
I'm confused on the part of the wedding book. I'm reading it as even to go as far as vandalizing this guy's wedding book. I think that's what you meant, and was just curious how the hell that happened? I mean he didn't get married while he was incarcerated after the incident. I don't know if you have any more insider information on the matter, but if you do let us know.
Thank you Carence for supplying information completely irrelevant to the article and discussion.
It was a Knot Wedding Page that was still left up, even though the event was cancelled (by the former bride) back in January (there was a note at the top of the page stating that). It was basically inactive, until buckeye fans found it, left a bunch of, umm, unfriendly remarks in the guest book, and then he obviously found out and removed it.
really, just sad
absolutely have no problem with OHD or 11W. They're doing it right. There are a few others out there, though ...
To be honest I would have been surprised if Buckeye fans did not do any of thes things mentioned in this article such as vandalizing this guy via the internet (calling his boss is 10 times worse). Despite what the school and Coach Tressel says about being "the best fans in the land" and that are kids are here to become better people, at the end of the day all that matters is how many touchdowns we score, and thats it. I think Decker is in enough shit as it is and for people to kick the man while he is down shows how classless some people really are, all I can say is that I'm not that surprised.
You mean like arguing over EA NCAA 2010 all day?
Get off your soap box. Did people step over the line, yes. Was it people who read this blog, I doubt it. You are acting as if this whole community took credit for the actions. Stop acting like you control the OSU fan world and are in charge of policing it. "Turn in your jersey at the front desk"-- turn in your sense of entitlement and arrogance at the back door. At the end of the day, you can only control your own actions and acting as if you can set some e-example by getting indignant just makes you look like a tool.
/off my own soap box
You know what, fuck him. Anybody that sucker punches someone regardless of whether or not they're a football player, priest, or homelss person is a piece of shit and deserves whatever he gets.
who gives a shit
Exaclty my point from before Lt. Dan. NCAA 2010 is completely irrelevant.
This guy made his bed. Buckeye Nation will not forget it. I'm not one to take part in these types of actions but this guy is going to have a shitstorm coming at him for a long time coming..
I love how you police the police on this site. Everytime someone tries to reprimand the buckeye population you come on here and tell them it's useless. COB don't you see that you are replying to the posters and telling them exactly what they told everyone else. COB, at the end of the day, you can only control your own actions and acting as if you can set some e-example by getting ingidnant makes you look like a tool, brah.
"are kids?" are you f-ing serious?
please point me to the portion of my comment where i repremanded anyone on this website. furthermore, cob, i'm not sure you udnerstand this whole "internet" thing. people post their thoughts and feelings. its how the world wide web works.
but, no, youre doing fine. you arent a hypocrite at all. keep up the good work, pal.
Well, there are assholes from everywhere that cheer for every team. Steeler and Laker fans made death threats against women for saying they were raped, People yell at professional athletes about dead children, and it goes on and on. Am I shocked that Buckeye fans did the same thing? No. I read about this guy yesterday and did not immediately go out to find his facebook and wedding site. I don't understand the thought process that makes it acceptable to act this way b/c you're a fan. I think it could happen with every team and that is the issue that needs to be discussed not why the Buckeye or Steeler fans are bad.
this guy, if he commited a crime, will be punished by our criminal justice system. taking the law into your own hands is antiquated cowboy diplomacy, and has no place in a society that has any intentions of bettering itself in the long-run. bottom line.
seriously. the way some buckeye fans act, sometimes i feel like i went to 4chan university and am rooting for the fighting anons
In other news, I'm no longer broken hearted that Bryce Brown went somewhere else:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...
For anybody interested, I'm forming a lynchmob this weekend to dispense some Old West justice. Please bring your own horses as i don't have enough to go around.
i thought a lot of the comments were funny initially, but later got a little too raunchy. and i'm thinking it was his ex-fiancee who took it down as some of the comments started to bring her into it (one of her friends made a comment).
i could really care less about what is happening to this guy and i have been over the moeller situation since like day 2 or 3 of this report (i was just pissed off at espn for messing up the article). i just think it's funny that some people take sports so seriously that it leads them to fuck with people....and if all of these shame on you people think what's happening to this decker guy is bad....imagine if it were pryor who he injured (of course pryor would probably grab him by his sideburns and throw him out of a window or something)...his house would have probably been burned down and his car would have gotten the "larry" treatment.
Well-said.
I live about 6 miles from where this shit went down (Gators). Ive been there a few times, it sucks. If I run into mr. Decker I will introduce him to the floor. According to the police report he goes 185lb I think I can take him, and if he looks tough I'll just sucker punch him.
I think its great people have called his boss. the company should know what kind of prick they have working for them.
just cause your up in someone face doesn't mean you can't get sucker punched... just turn your head and bang.
and Moeller is all of 6' 220
ya because no one ever gets off easy right? what do we do if he sees no jail time? then can we beat him down?
you never turn your face if your up in someones face. you keep your distance and stay out of their range. come on its barfighting 101 people.
You make a valid point, but last I checked this guy isn't an athlete or celebrity, and he has prior arrests. Won't likely get the Stallworth treatment.
No cause we live in a society ran by hippie liberal douche bags, with their hug a thug mentality. He probably wouldn't have to do any jail time if this story didn't hit ESPN. I say an eye for an eye
that's what i think happened. moeller was in the middle of screaming with decker and when he turned his head the opportunity to swing presented itself to decker. however, before this all happened (based off of what i read), my guess is that decker started hitting on moeller's sister...and when moeller introduced himself to decker...he decided he didn't like him and basically lied to him about his name?? gave him a false name? and when decker found out it was a lie (and possibly his own inner team pride...whoever that may be) he confronted moeller. just my opinion based off of what has been written so far.
hell yeah son, shit's been going downhill ever since them gat dam liberal pussies in congress started reforming the code of hammurabi 3500 years ago
Just a warning, this is a politics-free space. If you're not talking about the Whig party, we don't want to hear it.
I take it you are one of these hug a thug, slap on the wrist, second chance, thrid chance, up to 30th chance, give every kid a trophy, chain yourself to a tree, save the whales, PETA loving, NRA hating, hammurabi talking, hippie liberal douche bags.
This guy will be walking the streets within 72 hours. Mark my words. The judicial system doesn't work down south, and most counties are already overwhelmed.
Ok no more
"i am going to punch james k polk right in the back of the head"
-henry clay, 1844
that's the POINT. WE don't KNOW he was sucker punched. sheesh.
Damn it, if I get drawn into one more whig party debate...
I lived right down the road from there...
GATORS IS A FLORIDA GATORS RESTURANT!!!!
Everyone and there mom goes there for Florida games, there is a million better
places to eat down by st.pete beach.
What was this dude even doing there... Cmon moller you had to know gators
stood for FLORDIA GATORS....
Honestly, if tim tebow showed up at the scarlet grey cafe, or ledos, or someother
spot off of high street, the dude prob would have got beaten down.
Anyways, go 1 mile down the A1A strip to the Frog Pond, Miramar, Sloppy Joe,
or the angry pepper all way better resturants. Also, you might actual find
ohio state fans.
Yeah, that whole Southern area of the country is overrun by Democrats in office, I tells ya.
Your welcome Matt, anytime!
Your mom does Baba Booey, she asked me to post the comment.
"you are all completely worthless human beings".....and that was made in reference to "the whole lot of you"
Gosh, I don't know how we could have thought that was about us.
Is that sarcasm? Cause if it is you got me good! I applaud you.
Had this happened to Thadius Maximus Gibsonus, Mr. Decker would have been the one in the hospital!!!
dude, i am sure you understand this whole internet thing where people post their thoughts and feelings...even on your own thoughts and feelings.
stop being a self-righteous hypocrite.
the internet sucks. it reveals how awful we all really are.
You tell'em! All those damn non-democrats are ignorant racist bastards!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
you can cherry pick weirdos all day to make some half-assed political point...but it just reveals how far beyond your depth you are. if i were you, i'd stick with commenting on football.
It's a free country, dipshit. That doesn't mean it's free to assault someone at a bar, I don't care what the interior decorations are.
It feels like we hit a tipping point a few weeks back and these piece of garbage commenters flooded 11W en masse. It will only get worse once the season starts. Our Whig forefathers would be disgusted with this display of flame war idiocy, and while Millard Fillmore certainly supports the expansion of Canal routes and public land sales, he does not condone Interwebs tomfoolery.
I continue to advocate for civility and hereby propose registered users to the 11W-hig party platform.
Thank you, Mr. Miyagi.
I'd like to see someone try to assault Tebow aka JiC. That's laughable man laughable. You'd need a bulldozer to stop him.
True that...AND, Decker is fairly large himself according to some pictures on other Buckeye blogs.
Oh and I agree with this fine young gentlemen. I'm sick of this whole it's a buckeye's bar, or it's a gators bar, or whatever team it is you root for bar. I'm sure the owner of Gator's really wants Gator fans throwing out fans of another team in his bar. It's a business and no one should be assaulted over team affiliation.
A bulldozer? Nay! All the choirs of Angels could not stop Tebow of Nazareth.
I THINK DECKER HIT HIM BECAUSE HE IS WHITE
Haha I really do believe if Tebow was born around the same time of Jesus, Christians (or Tebowians as I like to call them) would be worshipping him. Ha, now I don't want to get in a religion debate, and sorry for those who I just offended. It's a joke....sort of
ha! sweep the leg johnny!
There seems to be blame for both....dudes don't go around teeing off on people w/o ANY reason.
Ceratainly the dude Decker will get what he deserves, as would Mr tUFf guy "Tampa Bucknutt" once he gets his ever-lovin' chance to dance with Decker. Everyone's a bad ass here, right Bud?...Tyler needs your help, huh?....yeah, THAT ought to restore the tUFf Buck-guy image you're trying to protect,..huh! He got into a fight in a bar, and it went the wrong way. Dude wasn't singing "koom-bi-ya" while walking towards the retirement center to read to the old folks. He was in a bar, drinking, and getting aggressive. Doesn't mean it should have happen; -just that if you act like that, sometimes shits gonna happen you might not like. I doubt he deserved to be hit, and certainly didn't deserve the medical problems that resulted. Unless dude was gropping his sister, and that wasn't mentioned, they could have walked away.
Wonder how much of this was jealousy driven.....you know, considering the Gators beat down the Bucknutts in some sporting events some time ago,.....I heard anyway....??? Gotta believe that,..also would be interested had this gone the other way,...and had the Buckeye been the "thrower". Some how I'm betting it would have been a much more "Rah-rah he got what he deserved" response, instead of this internet threatening bullshit.
I love it when fans do the "mouth"-talk crap for players. Players who, often times, they know NOTHING about!
translation: "I'm a puzzy, but I'll act bad vicariously through this dude I have a man-crush on, and who I believe is a bad ass". Wow!, how cool is that?!?! Worry what YOU'd do, and not how your "cool hero" would handle himself.
your gay
Well the dude is still an Ass Faced Monkey Boy!
That's BEAU-tiful!.....great response "tUFf" guy!...
also, its "you're", not your,...but nah, you missing that helped drive home the point more!. Thanks for playing!
Magna Carta? Didn't he play left wing for the Reg Wings?
This is actually a very possible scenario! I have seen bar fights where a big guy is running his mouth about knocking out a smaller guy, and the smaller guy felt threatened and instead of trying to talk about it, he threw the first punch. Sometimes that was a really bad move and ends up getting his tail kicked. It sounds like that might have happened and the Big Guy didn't win this time... Just a thought, Don't hate me...
"as far as i am concerned, the whole lot of you are no more real buckeye fans than i am shaquille oneal. you may turn in your jersey at the front desk.
you are all completely worthless human beings."
THAT, as J@BBC alluded to, is what I was talking about.
Buckets, I am noting the efforts by condemnation are worthless, in doing so, forcing hypocrisy in my own right. I even cited the fact that in order to get out my piece, I had to be in some sense hypocritical...hence my noting my own soap box at the end of my post.
"COB don’t you see that you are replying to the posters and telling them exactly what they told everyone else." I guess you could say that, except I find it hard to listen when people talk like mouth breathers, badger, accuse and otherwise act like assholes. So call me redundant but maybe you, as Morgan so eloquently put it, dont' "udnerstand this whole 'internet' thing".
I guess my main point is that if you want people to follow your lead, calling them worthless or implying they are some how less of a fan than you, is the least effective route. Moreover, acting as if YOU are the one to determine who should and should not be a fan, is even more absurd and the primary act I was refering to as making you look like a tool. Key note, I didn't say you should do anything but lose the arrogance and entitlement, cheer for OSU all you want.
Doritos +1
I second registration.
If we're talking spelling and grammar, the word is spelled tough, not tUFf.
Holy F#ck, I go out of town for a week with no wifi and the universe has taken a turn for the worse. And Yes, you can bring up last weeks comments about me never wanting to spend another dime in FLA, but then read my second comments...
These comments are getting out of hound
What happened to football? The season is two freakin' weeks away, and there are 75 comments and counting over a bar fight that happened two weeks ago, 6 comments on the Sparty preview. Im sure Tyler is ready to move on with his life, so should everyone else not involved.
Lets concentrate on football and not arguing back and forth with a bunch of witty comebacks. If I hear the word "douchebag" one more time Im gonna puke.
10-fer iball. Time to think about registration boys. 16 days 'til kick-off!!!! I'm gettin' pumped!
This might not be popular to say but oh well, I'm f**king pissed!
Kicking Decker's ass isn't really a being a vigilante IMO.
It's giving him what he deserves. Nobody is suggesting that someone should go to Florida and murder his ass. But giving him a severe beatdown sure sounds fair to me.
I'd love to have a couple minutes alone with him.....There wouldn't be any sucker punches but he would feel some serious pain. If he though Moeller was a big guy, he hasn't seen shit yet. (I'm 6'6, 280)
Funniest thing all day! LMAO
...and not for nothing, but I heard you run a low 4.2 40 too!
Decker isn't a small guy - he's not 185. There's a recent pic of him and he looks pretty big.
Is that your program listing or an actual?
HD is 5'3, 130 pounds and has braces.
ive stayed away from this post for the most part. really glad i did. another shitty day of posts. lets talk actual football fellas
GET HIM A BODY BAG YEAAAAAHHH
Actually I run a 2.0 40-yard-dash. LMAO
6'6 & 280 is my actual height & weight....If it was my program listing I'd be at least 6'8 320
I thought you'd like that dude
wow, a mom joke? clever.. Haven't heard one of those since 3rd grade
I remember when I had my first beer.
LMAO
I did BuckeyeSki -- I'm faster than a Cheetah and thanks for noticing man!
NO!! if you go by the laws it doesnt matter if you drunk if both of you were throwing punches or not! the point is a guy had to have surgery to relive pressure on his brain from the swelling that took place this is a crime. and should be punished to the fullest.
That's the most intelligent statement anyone has made yet.
doritos internet statement, that is.