No more?The rumors had been swirling for a while now, but yesterday it was made (near) official: Campus Partners is buying the Holiday Inn on Lane and is closing the hotel at the end of March. Ohio State plans to turn convert the property into a 480-bed dorm and it may even be ready to go this fall.
So, that's interesting, and the university can certainly use the housing, but what about the fate of the massive party that erupts in the parking lot of the hotel on a half dozen Saturdays every year? How will the fine people of Columbus see the Danger Brothers if Hineygate ceases to exist?
The event, billed as the world's largest tailgating party, has been a gameday fixture for over 25 years, but now faces an uncertain future. Though a spokesman for Campus Partners said they open to the possibility of keeping the event, I find it hard to believe it will be the same, what with a dorm sitting right in the middle of the debauchery. Either that, or I'm wrong and the new dorm will be the dream destination for the hardiest of student fans.
Not to keep beating a dead and ultimately unimportant horse, but we've received word from two super-reliable sources that Pryor was not injured for the Fiesta Bowl loss to Texas. He had some minor aches and such, but nothing on the level of an injured shoulder. Not sure what's up with the Bucknuts Radio Hour and Biddle saying he had a bum shoulder for the game, but just wanted to throw this update out there.
Teddy Greenstein of the Tribune, sat down with recently retired Big Ten supervisor of officials Dave Perry and he had a couple of interesting things to say about your favorite team. On the pass interference call in the Fiesta Bowl:
I don't think there was pass interference or, certainly, (there was) very thin pass interference. Unfortunately, that's what they announced.
On the Dufrene's fumble in the Shoe two years ago:
Clearly and obviously, the ball came out before the Illinois kid was down. It was recovered by Ohio State in the end zone, so it would have been a touchback.
I don't want to bad-mouth the guy, but our man upstairs should have reviewed it. He did not. He is no longer with us.
Better late than never on the fumble call, but why hate on 2002? (via Bucky's 5th Quarter)
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Now would be a perfect time for someone to find that frame-by-frame analysis of that end zone rape in the '03 Fiesta Bowl. Ray Charles saw pass interference on that play.
Oh, look, what have we here? http://buckeyefansonly.com/not...
A gentleman from the Holiday Inn on Lane was interviewed by 10TV last night and laid down this claim on Heineygate.
"It's the world's 3rd largest party, right behind Daytona and Talladega."
I about fell out of my chair laughing.
It does sound like Heineygate is going to move next door and force the current Riverwatch party to be defunct or move.
I fucking hate Campus Partners. They are turning campus into a goddamned suburban mall and they almost ruined my college experience by tearing down the South Campus bars and letting them sit as parking lots for three years. And now this. The further corporatization (is that a word?) of Ohio State. Ugghhh
I don't want to hear it. The Oval was closed for 2 and 1/2 of my 4 years to put in a draining and irrigation system (as far as I remember, the Oval is on a hill and never floods, even when High Street flooded in the summer of 2004, PLUS, it never had dead grass because it rains in Ohio in spring...so it was retarded). Why it took so long is beyond me, sounds like a project that shouldn't have taken any longer than a few months. That means I was deprived of one of the best parts of college life, coeds in swimsuits when the weather is nice for most of my college career, and the Oval isn't any different.
At least the South Campus bars are super nice now, and provide a selling point to future students. I wish it was like that when I went there...I might have gone down to Southy more often. Plus it's cleaner, and far less roudy than it used to be, which keeps students and property safe. If anything, what they did with South Campus was the best thing the University could have done to better itself in the long run and stay competitive with other national universities. Riots are stupid, and you don't want people thinking of that when you say 10 years from now that you went to Ohio State.
But you just can't kill Hineygate on gameday. That's stupid. There is a lot of corporate money involved with that, so at worst it'll just move somewhere else.
I have/had been going to the Campus area since the early 1980's and the South Camus area had become an embarrassing toilet of an area. Dangerous, criminal and terrible looking and smelling. It was constantly strewn with garbage, filled with people looking to fight and looked like a Chicago/Detroit slum. in terms of trying to promote OSU, you typically wanted to avoid taking parents/donors anywhere near that area. I saw people shot, thrown thru the glass window at Gyro King, etc. absolutely terrible area.
If your college experience was nearly ruined by having a few dive bars like Apollo's closed then you maybe were in college for the wrong reasons.
As for Hineygate, it would be sad to see it go, if for no other reason than it's a good paycheck for the Danger Bros ( I saw them live in the mid 80's)..but things change and in the South Campus area for the much better at times.
Dude is right, it wasn't pass interference. It was defensive holding, but it would still result in a first down...
I just want to say screw all you guys who actually had time to go look at the girls on the oval :) Spring quarter I was always so also so deep into an engineering project that I never would have seen a girl if my girlfriend hadn't been in some of my classes with me.
No more Hineygate? No more Cougars & MILFs flashing their tits on gameday??!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
This topic annoys me. There will still be a HineyGate. There's too much money at stake for it not to take place. More than likely, it'll just move down to Riverwatch. Still, my experience with HineyGate is it's full of drunks who really don't care all that much about watching OSU football. They just want to be at the cool place getting trashed. HineyGate can disappear for all I care. It's just an outdoor bar on gameday. Big whoop.
I did see that guy on the news last night claim it's the third largest outdoor party in the US.
I agree, Steve. I graduated in 2005, and the south campus "renovation" was one of the best things that happened to OSU (the Oval "replanting" was ridiculous). Sure, it could end up like "City Center, Version 2.0," but from an outsiders perspective, that kind of revitalization had to happen. I know that those who long for the nostalgic days of Papa Joe's and the other bars will never accept what Campus Partners has done to south campus.
That being said, converting the Holiday Inn into a dormitoy will really change the gameday atmosphere on Lane Avenue. There aren't officially any university-affiliated complexes on the north side of Lane (Riverwatch and Harrison Apartments aren't). I've also heard that the university is debating whether or not to tear down the ice rink, St. John Arena, and French Field House, in order to build brand new classroom/office space. Does anyone know any details about that?
thats nice
All I know is I have some of my best memories at the Hineygate. I got ripped, heckled a toddler in a Northwestern jersey, then insulted the manhood of anyone/everyone wearing purple on the way to the stadium, It's one of the reasons my future wife fell in love with me..... great times. It will be sad to see it go but the odds are it will move down the street, there will always be something to do on campus for games.
The real crime perpetrated by campus partners was the shady burning of Papa Joes, the only bar on campus that they couldn't get, that is a theory for another time.
Come on Phil, you can rip on Skullies, or Flyers, but never talk down on Apollo's. The best 2 A.M. Gyro's ever, who cares if they had roaches in the bathroom?
As a member of the class of 2010 I hope all of the students to follow me enjoy their brand new Student Union and library that I got to pay for but never use.
You're not quoting the whole comment about the Gamble play in 2002....this is what was actually said:
"Terry Porter made that call. I really think what they had was defensive holding right at the line. Unfortunately, there was no call for that. Then a pass was thrown, and a late flag came in. It looked pretty bad because the call was made by the field judge; the line judge passed on pass interference. Obviously, Miami was quite upset.
I was at that game. I do think there was a foul, defensive holding. I don't think there was pass interference or, certainly, (there was) very thin pass interference. Unfortunately, that's what they announced."
Just think of all the poor souls in the class of '21 that helped fund the Shoe but never got to experience it as a student. :)
Yes, some context does help a little here. He's still a hater/closet Irish fan. ;)
Yeah, this is the clincher for me also. I've linked to that before, and someone had the audacity to claim the ball was tipped, so therefore, no P.I. Video replay shows the guy up in Gamble's grill before the ball ever got there, so again, yes, it was P.I., and no, there was no tipped ball.
People will believe what they want to believe despite irrefutable facts to the contrary.
To this day Apollo's had the best gyros I've ever tasted. Drunk or sober.
He was getting bear hugged. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
I was a pharmacy student and my last year was internships. I did all of my internships back at home in Vermont. The whole time I was still having to pay a COTA bus fee (how the heck can I use COTA if I am 750 miles away). I had to pay a student activity fee and en extra $76 per quarter for RPAC (recreation facilities). I used those things when I was on campus, but when I am 3 states and 12 hours away there was no way that I was going to be able to take advantage of anything on campus. Those poor souls in the class of '21 could still experience the Shoe as a spectator.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/...
Mark Schlabachs revised top 25 for 2009. How on god's green earth can you say Va Tech is number 5 in the nation, AHEAD OF USC?????? Yet another example of ESPN's constant attempt to manipulate rankings to gain TV ratings.
Damn what was the name of the bar that got burned down in '96? It was right when I dropped out and a few weeks before I went to Boot Camp. (For the information of all hands, I am still working on my degree, slowly but surely...deployments where there is no internet access sucks, but I am working with the folks at tOSU to get it done, eventually...) And Jason, in case you care, I am anxiously awaiting the Warrant Officer/ LDO board results to come out, and I will let you know if I get picked up...
I attended (and graduated) OSU between 1987-1991 and I went to Hineygate every Saturday before each game. I currently live in Colorado and tell my friends about "the world's biggest tailgate" and what a good time it was. I think it would be a great travesty if Hineygate were to go away. As for the South campus bars, these were my favorites: Papa Joes, Mean Mr. Mustards (AC/DC - Cult night) , Park Alley, Surf City, and the South Heidelberg. Oh those were the days...Go Bucks!
We'll be able to ask Cry-ami fans in a couple years. I can't expect that to go well.
lol
wait a sec.
cougars and milfs flashing tits. I need to attend. I never made it that far. Always had SEVERAL kegs on Frambes haha
The Gyro Shoppe on Henderson Rd. is up there. Gyros in Chicago taste whack by comparison.
Papa Joe's burned, but the fire (I think) is supposed to have started in the basement of that dive bar that was next door whose name escapes me now. Of course, everyone thought/assumed that Parrish (sp?) saw the writing on the wall (Joe's was already having trouble w/ Campus Partners) and, well, you can guess the rest, right?
Didn't the fire start when some dude ran in the bathroom and lit the toilet paper on fire? And you are correct, I think it was done intentional with Campus Partners having a part in it...
I know. They're idiots...?
anybody remember the Underground on High Street?? I went to OSU 85-89........ that place was a blast... . alot of alternative chicks and some of them liked to get together with clean cut guys.... fun time.
Mean Mr.Mustards was awesome also.... and for the record... Hineygate was a bit over-rated... very crowded and alot of pushing and shoving... I always prefer the parking garage tailgates and the skull-fest at Saint John arena--that gets me way more pumped up on game day.
the thing on the side about petecarroll's twitter (resting the urge to laugh) i sneaked a peek and saw this:
"Chatting with frosh qb Matt Barkley in the football office right now... Teaching him everything I know... Fight on!
12:45 PM Jan 30th from TwitterBerry"
isnt it a recruiting violation to talk about recruits when they haven't signed a LOI?
Illegal to talk about them, but not to them, which is what he was describing.
Barkley signed on signing day, anyway, didn't he?
but can you talk about talking to them? i assume pete would know the rules and that he acted properly but it just peaked my interest.
yes he did sign, but that doesn't mean a violation is a violation.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Eh. Maybe he made an honest mistake. I'm more for investigating the whole free housing on the AD's dollar for players' families thing
Oops -- didn't see the datestamp on that tweet.
I'd be upset to see Hineygate go if it winds up that way. I go to the home opener every year with my dad and of course this is one of our stops to have a pop or two (or ten) before the game, listen to the Danger Brothers, take in the scenery, and get pumped for the game. Its a memory I've had for years and a tradition I would like to keep with my old man.
hineygate, in my opinion, is a ridiculous waste of time. the people that go there, for the most part, just want to get wasted and have very little (real) interest in the game. its overcrowded, the screen is always going out, and the drinks are waaaaaaaay overpriced. its more of a place to be seen than anything, and i wont be the least bit sad to see it go.
It was/is a place for those people to go. It's not like they'll just stay home for games now - they'll probably all head to the back of your SUV and hibachi w/ 3 brats.
I remember the Underground, it was my first bar I got into on the night of my 18th birthday. Unfortunately, I was still in high school and had to be home before these "alternative chicks" started picking out clean-cut dudes to go home with.
Awesome example of class. It was Northwestern dude...you don't have to heckle children. As they heard you "insulting the manhood of anyone/everyone" other OSU fans were apologizing for your trailer trash antics. Heckling Northwestern fans...jesus, get a hold of your life.
I used to hang out at Mustards, Crazy Mommas, Apollo's, Papa Joes, the underground, Heidelberg, etc. I played in and ran sound for a few short lived local bands that played those joints mostly between 1981 and 1990. Maybe it was just me getting older, but starting in the early 1990's the scene grew much more dangerous.
Crime got more crazy, not just random vandalism and the occasional fight or public urination, but gun play, murders, open confrontation, armed robbery, crack, The Hummer girls rape/murder in 1994, riots, etc,,,you felt like you were going to a gang fight rather than to just get drunk and have a good time. Hence many places started closing even before the Campus Partner's folks started buying up property.
I started migrating to North campus and places like stache's and the distillery to go see live music and to avoid the folks a little further south. I would still venture down to either Apollos or the gyro shop for a bite at the end of the night, but didn't hang there anymore. I also started going to the Short north area.
I am old enough to have seen the Danger Bros in one of those south campus bars in the early days,,ie before they got old. I went to HS with Fred Zaner (aka Damon Zex) he was his classes valedictorian btw,,,I bought records (actual LPS mind you) at the old Used Kids and Singing Dog, I bought musical instruments at the String Shoppe. I remember when it was still the Agora and not the Newport. I saw the last Agora show (Humble Pie) and the 1st Newport (Adrian Belew and the Bears) show on back to back weekends. I remember when there wasn't a Wendy's, I had friends who wrote for Moo Magazine, the Other Paper, etc,,,,great memories, but the area went down hill very quickly after 1990 or so...
RIP Staches -- and your son, Little Brothers.
Everyone I know that frequented Staches claims to have been there for the $7 Nirvana show in '91.
Here's some video before my time I found of Campus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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